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Worst hand ever Mon, 17 December 2007 16:22
The other day, just after my game ended with me getting an 80-point hand, I was complaining in the lobby that I'd been dealt the worst hand in GOF history. A discussion ensued about the worst possible GOF hand. I actually gave the issue considerably more thought than it deserves and this is what I came up with:

Pairs
1s (yellow and red)
2s (yellow and red)
3s (yellow & yellow)
4s (red and red)
5s (yellow and yellow)
6s (yellow and yellow)
7s (green and green)
single 8 (green)
single 9 (green)

Any thoughts?

Sol

(By the way, I get dealt this hand at least once per game)
      
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Re:Worst hand ever Mon, 17 December 2007 17:41
found on the french forum

some other nice hands ( I think I have some on my PC, soon online Wink )

Requiem For A Dream écrit le Thu, 20 September 2007 14:29

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/999/8pairesoktl4.jpg

Requiem For A Dream écrit le Sat, 25 March 2006 14:39

http://rscm93.free.fr/jeupourri1.jpg
http://rscm93.free.fr/jeupourri2.jpg
Girolamomoquiche écrit le Thu, 20 April 2006 09:59

http://img85.imageshack.us/img85/7292/salejeudepaires4mp.jpg
Requiem For A Dream écrit le Tue, 02 January 2007 00:57

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/2972/aieqb5.jpg

      
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Re:Worst hand ever Fri, 21 December 2007 05:23
Sol's candidate for worst hand

Pairs
1s (yellow and red)
2s (yellow and red)
3s (yellow & yellow)
4s (red and red)
5s (yellow and yellow)
6s (yellow and yellow)
7s (green and green)
single 8 (green)
single 9 (green)


How about:

Change a six yellow to a six green and a 7 green to a 7 yellow (to avoid the high green flush) and replace the 2 red with a 10 green, but note that you had to give your top card to the previous round's winner, and they give you a 2 red for your 10 green. The hand is about the same (ever so slightly stronger with a seven high flush instead of a six high flush), but you add the demoralizing effect of losing a high straight flush (oh and you are in fourth position).

Alternatively:
Pairs
1s (red and red)
2s (yellow and yellow)
3s (yellow and yellow)
4s (yellow and yellow)
5s (yellow and yellow)
6s (red and red)
7s (green and green)
single 8 (green)
single 9 (green)

would reduce your highest flush to a five high. It is tempting to replace the fives with an eight and a nine to avoid any straights, but I tend to agree that that would give you some good high pairs along with your mandatory flush.
      
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Re:Worst hand ever Mon, 31 December 2007 14:00
What do you think of this one ? Wink

Happy new year all Smile

http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/6110/pasbeaugp0.jpg
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Re:Worst hand ever Mon, 31 December 2007 17:12
Yes, that's a spectacularly bad hand. How many pts did you get stuck with?
      
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Re:Worst hand ever Tue, 01 January 2008 13:53
Hi sol,

yes, that's what we get! Since few weeks crap only and then I got few screenshots from pitches.
One of his hands for example:

2x5
3x7
2x9
6x10
Yellow Phenix
Dragon

At that point I had 99 points! I hate him!

But you and me, we have something in common, so let's play and complain Wink

See you

Nay

      
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Re:Worst hand ever Tue, 01 January 2008 14:00
solinsf écrit le Mon, 31 December 2007 17:12

Yes, that's a spectacularly bad hand. How many pts did you get stuck with?

I don't remember but I know that I was leading and finished 3rd with 83 pts, then I can guess I didn't get stuck with more than 13 cards Laughing
      
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Re:Worst hand ever Tue, 15 January 2008 15:55
both in the same game :

( there was a third hand that I didn't take a screenshot of)

http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/2126/beurkpn9.jpg
http://img98.imageshack.us/img98/770/beurk2xm8.jpg
with the last hand : 80 pts Very Happy
      
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Re:Worst hand ever Wed, 14 January 2009 22:41

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Re:Worst hand ever Wed, 14 January 2009 22:56
Baron, how you play the hand might also be influenced - apart from all the factors you already mentioned - by the state of the game.
Is it zero all, is there somebody close to 100, are you in 1st, 2nd, 3rd or 4th place yourself etc?
      
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. Wed, 14 January 2009 23:20

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Re:Worst hand ever Thu, 15 January 2009 03:16
The 16th was clearly a single -- either a 1, 2, 3, 4, 6, or 8.

What Mr. Bean says is true. We need more info. to know how to play this hand. The most important piece of info. is that we need to know how close the 4th place player is to 100. Is he at 85, or did the game just start and he's only at, say, 15? If he's at 85, you'd want to play as conservatively as possible because, after all, you only need to stick the guy with 8 cards and you'll win the game. If it's early in the game, and everyone is sort of bunched together, you could be more aggressive to try to maximize the damage to everyone. Also, what color are the 9s? If they are red & yellow, they're the highest pair on the table. If not, they could get beaten. That might well affect how you choose to play the hand.

Starting with the Phoenix is something I would almost never do. If you lead with the Phe or the Dragon, good players will immediately recognize that you have a great hand & they will immediately play their GOFs. That's the one move that could badly screw you up, since the person would then lead 5, allowing everyone else to dump 5, as well. Of course, you'll still win the hand, but your opponents will escape serious damage.

I'm pretty conservative and, in most situations, I'd play this in a way to avoid tipping anyone off that I have a great hand. I'd probably start with the single, then play the Dragon. If I play the 7s full next, it would again be a tip-off that I have a great hand -- which might bring out people's GOFs. Plus it would allow probably 1 player (maybe 2) to dump 5 cards. A better move would be to lead one of the 5s, then win the round with the yellow Phoenix. After that, I'd lead the other 5, then the 6 10s, then go out with the 7s over 9s. With my luck, someone would probably have 7 1s.
      
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Re:Worst hand ever Thu, 15 January 2009 06:47
Oh . . . I missed the last part of your question -- about how to play it if someone plays an early GOF. It's a good question because, with no one else having any 10s in their hand, they're all going to be fearful of a GOF 10s -- which means they're likely to play their GOFs early.

There are really 2 ways to play it if someone plays an early GOF (say, they play it on my Dragon). The safe way is to just be patient & wait til you can win the round again, like with your Yellow Phoe or possibly your pair of 9s (or maybe even the 7s full). The risk of playing this way is that you might let everyone dump enough cards to get under 10, and maybe even 7. The aggressive way to play it would be to beat the GOF with your 6 10s -- or maybe just play 4 of the 10s, and hold the other 2 so you'll have the highest pair on the table. The risk of this strategy is that there could be a 3rd GOF out there.

I would probably play it the second way. If there's no third GOF out there, you'll be able to stick people with nearly as many points as if the first GOF had never been played at all. And even if there IS a third GOF, the odds of actually losing the hand are pretty slim. After all, you're still holding a high full house, the highest pair, and the highest single on the table.
      
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Re:Worst hand ever Fri, 16 January 2009 12:44
Hi there,

Pitches 27
Karina 32
Garlic 86
Nayeli 99

Game Pitches and it was a single 2.

I would start with single 2, then yellow ph. single green 9, dragon, single red 9 - gof and full.

And about Leachris' hands. I get those cards everyday. 3 Flushes are not that bad.



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Re:Worst hand ever Fri, 16 January 2009 13:13
Another example:

Phenix and Warrior both 39
Flacofa 18
Pitches 6

Pitches hand: 1 yellow, 2 red, 3 green and yellow, 5 yellow, 2x6 red, 8 green, 5x9 (green,2x yellow, 2x red) 3x10 - yellows and a red one. He got another red 10 from Phenix.

How do you play this?
      
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Re:Worst hand ever Fri, 16 January 2009 18:33
That one is like one of those chess puzzles they publish in the Sunday newspaper. Way too many bad singles, with no high singles in your own hand. Plus no straights and no way to make a flush without splitting up the GOF or the 10s full (or both). And no matter how you play it, you're inevitably going to be left with at least one low single plus a green 8. On top of that, Phenix passed a 10, which means there's a good chance he has a GOF, and there's a 50-50 chance that someone has the phenix pair.

I don't know how anyone can say how he/she would play this hand because it's clearly not a hand where you are going to be able to control the order of play. I guess I'd start by leading the yellow 1, and hope to dump the 5, or at least the 8, along the way. After that, I'd hope to lay down a red flush (2, 6, 6, 9, 10). Later, if a couple 10s and a phoenix come out, you can play the GOF, lead with the 3s, then win the round with the 10s (if no one has a GOF), and dump your last remaining single. I wouldn't even rule out playing the yellow 10s as singles, so as to draw out the 2 phos and the dragon (maybe leaving my red 10 as a winner). If I do that, I'd definitely want to leave open the possibility of splitting the GOF to make 9s full with one of the pairs. But I would probably wait til late in the hand to do that, because I might need the GOF to stop someone from winning.

The only way you can really know how to play a hand like this is to start playing it and see how the hand progresses. It's like the game box says: GOF is a game about adjusting to fast-changing situations.
      
    
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