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Juggleloony
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  Clue vs. Mystery of the Abbey Fri, 09 September 2005 23:51
Hi everyone,

I'v been wondering about how you guys would compare clue to Mystery of the abbey. I myself don't own clue, but everyone sais "If you like mystery of the abbey, you'll realy like clue."

Most people, after playing a few times, say mystery of the abbey is defanitly better, but a handfull have said the like clue more.

What do you think?
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Re:Clue vs. Mystery of the Abbey Sat, 10 September 2005 10:40
I prefer Clue, definitely. Read my previous post to understand why.


How the games compare:

- They're both about finding a murderer. In Clue you have to find a person, a weapon and a location: three cards that are hidden at the beginning of the game. In the Abbey you have to find a person (one card hidden), or his characteristics. In Clue you can only make one accusation, and you stop playing if it is false (without revealing what your accusation was). It's all or nothing so you've got to be very sure or very daring. The Abbey is much more error-tolerent, since you only lose points if you make a false revelation or accusation. Informed guesses are encouraged.

- Clue is much more regulated in the questions you can ask. You can only ask about a person, weapon and location, and the player you ask will disprove your supposition by showing you one of these cards if they have it. And questions are the only way to gather information. The rest is speculation/intuition. In the Abbey, questions are totally open, and there are several other ways to gather information (steal a card in someone's dormitory, special cards, events, masses...)

- Clue is a very static game. Once cards are distributed, they don't change hands. The only action you can do is go to a room and ask a question. Every round is the same, only the questions change. It is rather slow if you play with good players, but not in the way that you have to wait a long time for your turn: everybody can make deductions from everybody else's question or answer. The Abbey, on the other hand, is very dynamic, with cards changing hands and a range of possible actions to choose from. This sounds more interesting but it's actually, IMHO, its main downside: deductions à la Clue on other people's hands become obsolete really fast, but you still have to try and make them if you want to use all the available information. That's really tiresome.


I would say that the Abbey is better for younger players who play carelessly. The variety proposed is definitely more interesting than Clue. Clue is more about careful deductions (and some daring assumptions). When I was younger I used to play Clue without making all the possible deductions, only deducing from cards shown directly to me, because I was simply clueless about the possibilities of the game. At that time I would definitely have prefered the Abbey for its greater variety and fun factor.

I don't know about liking one if you like the other. I know I like Clue and I don't like the Abbey. Inversely, you might like the Abbey but find Clue completely monotonous and boring. I would definitely advise trying Clue though. It's one of those classic family games, up there with Monopoly, Trivial Pursuit, Pictionary and the likes.

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Re:Clue vs. Mystery of the Abbey Thu, 14 June 2007 17:42
From my experience, Mystery of the Abbey outshines Clue.

I've only played Clue 3 times, and 3 times was more than enough.
I played Clue with two non-gamers, just because we were hanging out at one of the non-gamer's houses, and she decided to pull out Clue.

Within 45 minutes we had played all 3 games of Clue, and I had won all 3. Everyone played pretty smart, the game just wasnt much of a challenge.

Mystery of the Abbey, however, can take awhile for a game, because the diffuculty level is much higher, and the strategy is a bit subtler.

Either way, you've got good games when it comes to Clue and Mystery of the Abbey, preferences just rely on which type of strategy you like better.
      
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Re:Clue vs. Mystery of the Abbey Sat, 29 December 2007 14:09
I tend to find clue way too repetitive, which mystery of the abbey is not.
      
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Re:Clue vs. Mystery of the Abbey Sun, 05 February 2012 00:33
redPEPPER wrote on Sat, 10 September 2005 04:40


How the games compare:



The funny thing is that the reasons cited are exactly why I prefer Mystery of the Abbey.

In fact, I usually say, "If you enjoy Clue, you'll enjoy Mystery." In my opinion, Mystery is a higher-level game of Clue.

It goes to show how easy it is for two people to disagree on which is better based on the same data.
      
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Re:Clue vs. Mystery of the Abbey Tue, 07 February 2012 23:54
Kuildeous wrote on Sat, 04 February 2012 18:33

redPEPPER wrote on Sat, 10 September 2005 04:40


How the games compare:



The funny thing is that the reasons cited are exactly why I prefer Mystery of the Abbey.

In fact, I usually say, "If you enjoy Clue, you'll enjoy Mystery." In my opinion, Mystery is a higher-level game of Clue.

It goes to show how easy it is for two people to disagree on which is better based on the same data.


Yep I would have to agree. The reasons for liking Clue that redPEPPER gave are my reasons for disliking it. And the assertion that Mystery of the Abbey would be better for "younger players who play carelessly" is exactly the opposite of my opinion. I find Clue is much easier for (my) children to play than Mystery of the Abbey and probably both are equally hard to win against adults. Careless young players are not going to do very well in Mystery of the Abbey, which requires more complex record keeping and deductions (to frame good questions, make revelations, etc.).
      
    
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