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Re:Fun Tournament 2012 Tue, 18 December 2012 23:57
Pammes-GFF

2-2
+ a snake game:

first question:
snake means that all cards u place must count for longest?
(if u place montreal-ssm-dul-helena-seattle-portland-slc-helena
u can´t place sea-van without a penalty?
am I right with that?

what is the ruling in snake, if a player makes with his last card a penalty, which can´t be called because the game is over after he placed it...
does the rule of no5+ apply you lose the game even if u had the most points?

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Re:Fun Tournament 2012 Wed, 19 December 2012 00:45
Drake:Hecki
5:0

Drake:Enix
1:1
my start game 3

      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2012 Wed, 19 December 2012 00:50
AT_Pammes wrote on Tue, 18 December 2012 14:57



what is the ruling in snake, if a player makes with his last card a penalty, which can´t be called because the game is over after he placed it...
does the rule of no5+ apply you lose the game even if u had the most points?

thanks for the answers?



Knock has said that if you do not take your penalty, you lose the game. So this applies to the end of the game.

It is implied in point 9 of the rules, but is not clear. The same "special case" outlined in the NO 5/6er rules also applies to Snake. (would be interesting if it didn't apply though - would change strategy a little for ending the game)
      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2012 Wed, 19 December 2012 07:08
hi drake

see it the same way
it just has to be cleared..
      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2012 Wed, 19 December 2012 08:43
Rules edited to be clearer.

In fun you can break the rules, it's part of strategy. But in return a penalty is needed for that. So breaking the rules in your last turn isn't allowed.

Pammes : so what is the result of your match : 3-2 or 2-3 ?
      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2012 Wed, 19 December 2012 10:36
Before ending my match with Pammes, another result in Group C :

Cat_ 2:3 Elric
Snake    :  127 - 063*
5TixMin  : *125 - 130
8+NoMore :  081 - 107*
DrawOpen : *089 - 129
No5/No6  : *101 - 034

Drawing (after penalities or not !) is really FUN... but not always helpful for the win Wink Laughing Laughing

Thanks for the good games and good luck in your remaining games, Cat ! Smile
      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2012 Wed, 19 December 2012 11:06
And about the special case quoted by Pammes above, I thought about it too before, and of course I agree as everyone does.
So, because it's a general way to rule, I allowed myself to update the rule #9 (but tell me if I'm wrong) :

For all variants : if you don't take your penalty the very next turn (or if you can't, because it's the last turn), you lose the game.
      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2012 Wed, 19 December 2012 11:15
Elric - Sancerre écrit le Wed, 19 December 2012 11:06

And about the special case quoted by Pammes above, I thought about it too before, and of course I agree as everyone does.
So, because it's a general way to rule, I allowed myself to update the rule #9 (but tell me if I'm wrong) :

For all variants : if you don't take your penalty the very next turn (or if you can't, because it's the last turn), you lose the game.




yes, better said like that, thanks Elric, and perhaps we can remove the "special case" for game 1 and 5, not needed now...
      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2012 Wed, 19 December 2012 11:59
if the ruling ist as it seems now
the result is 3-2 for me...
sry GFF
      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2012 Wed, 19 December 2012 12:02
there still needs to be the clarification in snake...

that all moves have to be the way, that every played train counts for longest...
thanks knock....

      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2012 Wed, 19 December 2012 12:24
Pammes écrit le Wed, 19 December 2012 12:02

there still needs to be the clarification in snake...

that all moves have to be the way, that every played train counts for longest...
thanks knock....




The rule is :
Quote:

you are only allowed to build one continuous track (like in mobile game snake), extension is possible on both endings.



Please explain what isn't clear enough...
      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2012 Wed, 19 December 2012 16:14
Knock,

What isn't clear is what is on the Ticki.

"you may continue ANYWHERE(!) from that circle"
http://www.tickipedia.net/wiki/Fun_Tournament#Rules_2011

Your quote does not match what you provide here. Hence the reason I made the play I did in the snake round.
If I didn't think I could play off of a loop anywhere I wanted, I would have made a different set of plays, and I am sure Pammes knows how I could have done that. But, I had this as an alternative in my head and used it.

The implication to me (at least in my mind) is that you can make a loop and have a free pass to take off anywhere from that circle/loop. However, as is now clear to me - every play must count towards 'extending longest.'

However, I also have another question.

Say I play 6 orange, 2 gray, 5 red

Pure snake rules would tell me that I can only leave via Helena now, yes?

But, this writing implies an exit point anywhere in the circle. I could take 6 purple if I wanted as my next play if that is correct. Something I have also considered the few times I have played these variants.

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I did not intend to break a rule as I felt I was playing within them. I agreed to forfeit the game in discussion afterward because it seemed that there was a better understanding by someone who likely has played it more than I. Like any game player, I was trying to understand all avaiable tools allowed to win - just like anyone else. Clearly, my mind works differently than most.

It's just a fun tournament. Thank you Sylvain for volunteering your time to TD. It is appreciated. It is my own fault if I take things like semantics in the rules too seriously.

Rob
GFF

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Re:Fun Tournament 2012 Wed, 19 December 2012 16:42
In pammes example, your snake isn't a circle, the snake doesn't bite his tail, you have to play from montreal or helena.

In your example, your snake is a circle, you can play from helena or duluth or omaha.
If you play 6 purple, then next turn you'll have to play from duluth or toronto.
If you play 6 yellow, then next turn you'll have to play from helena or seattle.

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Re:Fun Tournament 2012 Wed, 19 December 2012 16:45
GenuineFauxFarm wrote on Wed, 19 December 2012 08:14



Say I play 6 orange, 2 gray, 5 red

Pure snake rules would tell me that I can only leave via Helena now, yes?

But, this writing implies an exit point anywhere in the circle. I could take 6 purple if I wanted as my next play if that is correct. Something I have also considered the few times I have played these variants.




Snake as "in one single track snake", in other words if the snake bites its tail you may continue ANYWHERE(!) from that circle (same with double-circle or more circles).
To me 6 pink is good !
You can leave anywhwere from helena, omaha or duluth ! But next move will determine the new tail and head of your snake.

I.e= you play 4 grey Hel Cal : you played from your head in Helena. Head is now in Calgary. However your tail is now in Helena (can not be in Duluth or Omaha anymore).

Edit : well, double with Knock now hehe

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Re:Fun Tournament 2012 Thu, 20 December 2012 01:02
Knockando vs patterson : 3 - 2

Snake: *138 - 104 (3 nice tixs and no mistake with first move)
5tix: 148 - 139* (only one loco; but good tixs to keep the longest)
8+nono: *131 - 123 (3 big tixs, but needed a lot of small routes while patterson was playing 6ers, so I had to draw and took 2 tixs for 74 tix points and only 57 road points !)
draw open: 101 - 122* (3 little tixs for me but good colors for patterson this time with LA-Mia and Den-Pitt)
no5/6: 095 - 120 (3 tixs again for me. I played a blocking game, and patterson took 2 penalties but found enough good tixs !)

Thanks for the games

Played just after

patterson vs Zaco2 : 3 - 2
      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2012 Thu, 20 December 2012 03:23
Yes, yes. I get the point. I got it once Pammes started the discussion after the game.

My current point is that we need to REWORD the rule. If you only read the rule and have little to no experience with the variant, you can interpret it in the way I did. That's all.

Rob
GFF
      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2012 Thu, 20 December 2012 08:57
Pammes - Cat
3-2

hard fought fight against a clawing but still purring cat
enjoyed it as always
Very Happy
      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2012 Thu, 20 December 2012 19:52
Großer Hase - Zaco2
4 - 1

Thx for the interesting games.
      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2012 Thu, 20 December 2012 21:10
we meet issue with Patterson to find a schedule before christmas deadline. Not issue with PM, but just unconvenient agendas. I am afraid we will not be able to meet in the lobby before 28th (and even then, it is not fixed)
Is it possible, dear TD, to postpone the deadline?

regards
      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2012 Thu, 20 December 2012 22:54
SMP-häxxli 2:3 Requiem For A Dream
Snake    : 138* -  113
5TixMin  : 116 -  *151
8+NoMore : 104* -  070
DrawOpen : 044  - *101
No5/No6  : 086* -  101


After 4 games, it's 4 clear victory ! (with -25, + 35, -34 and +55 !)... not fun so, last game is with a west battle and penalty for häxxli and me and finaly i won Razz ).

FUN ? it's strange because stress is more important for me in FUN tournament than in NC Confused

Good luck for you're next match häxxli and thx for quick schedule Smile

P.S. : Tomorrow i play Drake @t 21h and Lucullupus after for finish my round robin Smile

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Re:Fun Tournament 2012 Fri, 21 December 2012 01:44
Elric vs GFF
2:3

Snake: 119:125
5 Tix: 93:110
8+: 99:103
open: 109:92
no5,6: 99:98

Thanks for the games.

Rob
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Re:Fun Tournament 2012 Fri, 21 December 2012 18:39
Group A

ommie vs GH: 4-1

Things seemed to go my way today - even taking an extra tix in 5 tix when i didn't need too.


      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2012 Fri, 21 December 2012 22:07
Drake Storm 2:3 Requiem For A Dream
Snake    : 128* -  112
5TixMin  : 113 -  *117
8+NoMore : 113* -  096
DrawOpen : 097  - *127
No5/No6  : 070* -  091


Thanks for game Drake Storm and have fun in next round
      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2012 Sat, 22 December 2012 00:06
I'll be back friday 28th : I hope you'll find time to end the groups

And no problem to start the next round !
      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2012 Sat, 22 December 2012 01:54
RFAD - Lucullupus 2:3 Cool
      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2012 Sun, 23 December 2012 03:15
GenuineFauxFarm vs Cat_

1: 4



Thx for the interesting games



Cat_


Twisted Evil
      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2012 Sun, 23 December 2012 23:43
Hogika vs Cat_ 0.5 : 4.5



sorry hogi, the luck was on my side. Embarassed



thanks for the games and merry christmas Smile


Cat Very Happy
      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2012 Sat, 29 December 2012 18:09
Haxxli vs Enix

2-3

Tixs was on my side in the last 3 games?

Thanks for games Haxxli

Have fun
Peace
      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2012 Thu, 03 January 2013 04:39
Any news on these remaining matches? We need them finished to determine seedings for KO!


*GROUP A: toutoune vs Patterson

*GROUP B: Cromze vs Audrey




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Re:Fun Tournament 2012 Thu, 03 January 2013 10:15
Patterson, toutoune, Cromze and Audrey didn't find time to play their matches.
Score 0-0
The playoffs table is ready, lets' play and have fun !

http://www.tickipedia.net/wiki/Fun_Tournament_2012#Playoffs

Please try not to wait too long... Wink
      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2012 Thu, 03 January 2013 15:10
Yep I reacted too late with Audrey...
Sorry for those who waited for us to play Embarassed Embarassed

Enjoy the playoffs and the end of the tourney all ! Have fun Wink !!!!
      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2012 Fri, 04 January 2013 18:39
Haaxli vs Sysyphus :
Tomorrow, Sat. 5th at 17.00 CET
      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2012 Fri, 04 January 2013 20:54
Hecki vs Audrey
2/3
      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2012 Sat, 05 January 2013 17:50
Haaxli Sysy : 2-3
      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2012 Sun, 06 January 2013 20:28
Pammes - SOS Patterson

Wednesday, 8.30 p.m.
      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2012 Mon, 07 January 2013 08:37
Knockando vs hogika : 3 - 2

Snake: *092 - 136 Mon-NO + Dul-Hou vs LA-Mia + SF-ATl (or Port-Nash) : I started with 6 orange, and after his 6 black and green my only chance to win was to play Hou-NO...but I didn't Sad
5tix: 161-126* (really nice big tixs for me + KC-Hou missed. I clicked wrong at the beginning and took colors before having 5 tixs. Hogika didn't call penalty, but even with the sixth ticket (Chi-Sanfe so -9 points) I would have won)
8+nono: *121 - 104 (5 tixs for me against 2)
draw open: 119-108* (longest gave me the win)
no5/6: 091-099 (Ny-Atl blocked in last turn gave him the win)



      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2012 Mon, 07 January 2013 22:02
Drake:Jen
3:1
      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2012 Tue, 08 January 2013 23:41
New result in Playoffs :

ommie 2:3 Elric
Snake    : *093 - 127
5TixMin  :  100 - 132*
8+NoMore : *091 - 110
DrawOpen :  126 - 120*
No5/No6  : *074 - 073

Sorry my dear, you'll have to wait one more year before trying to keep the title back to you Wink
      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2012 Wed, 09 January 2013 21:41
Just finished

Pammes - Patterson 2-3
      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2012 Thu, 10 January 2013 22:35
CAT vs toutoune 2:3

snake: 106:90
I definitely missed the right move to secure LA-Chi

5tix: 159:143
Both big combos, no block, tie longest

8+: 103:108
tough one, I play Por-Pho + LA-Hel vs LA-Mia + Chi-SFe and Cat started with 6 blacks + LA-Phoenix, but I made the right loop to get points and longest

open cards: 109:122
I played Sea-NY - Mon-Atl with 4 6ers in the north and longest

no5no6: 101:130
I play LA-Hel + Den-ElP vs a very bad combo: La-Mi + SSM-OC.
I connected Sea-NY-Chi-ElP, then played the penalty with 6 blacks, and then ticketfiend tactic worked well ^^

Thank you Cat, nice and of course fun fight, full of Pina Colada^^

A nous deux, Sysy Twisted Evil


      
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