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van Voort
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Year End Rankings
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Tue, 25 December 2012 21:53
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Yeah, I am going to do this, find out who are the true experten.
Rank alone is not enough, as you can get that through mere persistance
Neither is high rating (as you can get that by not playing all the scenarios), though that will be the base.
So to come out near the top, you need to be a broadly based good player - not just high ranked or high rated.
Official Ranking will count:
1-20 10
21-40 8
And so on down to 100
In addition you get +1 for each 1,000 games played
SFTF Ranking will count
1-10 10
And so on down to 50
In addition you get +1 for each 500 games played
Ranks:
Brig +10
Col +8
Lt Col +5
Maj or less 0
If you are Major or below, you have not yet played and won all scenarios once as each side
If Lt Col, you've only done so once
If Col you have done so twice, and played 25 cadets as an Lt Col
Medals:
The only one I was going to count was advanced historian at +2
The rest are either too common or too luck based
(Edit: Boosted the weighting given to rank)
[Aktualisiert am: Wed, 26 December 2012 10:21]
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van Voort
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Re:Year End Rankings
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Tue, 25 December 2012 21:59
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Example:
van Voort
Official 82nd 2
1000+ 1
SFTF 20th 8
<500 0
Brig 10
AH 2
Total = 23
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stevie02
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Tue, 25 December 2012 23:19
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Where do you find your sftf ranking ?
Stevie
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Phread
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Phread
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Tue, 25 December 2012 23:47
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Phread
Official 58th 6
3000+ 3
SFTF Not currently ranked 0
<500 0
Brig 10
AH 2
Total = 21
There are other medals I'd recommend - look at the expert or specialist medal categories, and even 2 honour medals (Desert Rats + Afrika Korps).
Medals that you have to play for are worthy, not those which recognise luck.
I still think this ranking is biased to online points rank, I've dropped 50 positions playing (some of) the new scenarios.
By the time I've played and won all new scenarios from both sides I expect to have dropped a couple of hundred ranking positions as I play a wide range of people not just those with high points.
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van Voort
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van Voort
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Re:Year End Rankings
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Wed, 26 December 2012 00:32
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| Phread wrote on Tue, 25 December 2012 22:35 |
| stevie02 wrote on Wed, 26 December 2012 11:19 |
Where do you find your sftf ranking ?
Stevie
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Your account page hass a link to your online ranks , this link takes you to your SFTFF (aka expert) rank http://www.daysofwonder.com/en/scores/?game=MM_ex
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SFTF rankings tend to be lower, as fewer games are played there.
Ratings on any ELO basis tend to inflate over time
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Phread
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Wed, 26 December 2012 01:35
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| van Voort wrote on Wed, 26 December 2012 12:31 |
I think you can maintain high rank even trying to win scenarios both sides.
Mine has gone up a lot since I stop playing the unfavoured side by preference
Of the expert medals, Advanced Historian is the only on with les than 20 winners that is not based on luck
By definition, Desert Rat and Afrika Corps you would pretty much have by being Lt Col or above.
Maybe I should emphasis rank more?
My aim is to find the best "all round players", neither rank nor rating will achieve that. Though as noted above, rank alone is just a matter of persistance, effectively I am taking rating and weighting it by rank and other criteria
I will do this globally, probably on 1/1/13.
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Higher rank, greater than Major takes more wins, more dedication to playing.
Desert Rat, Arnhem, Iwo Jima, Flags of our Fathers, Omaha, both commando specialist medals all take effort to win, not just luck.
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van Voort
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Wed, 26 December 2012 08:08
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Desert Rat, Arnhem, Iwo Jima, Flags of our Fathers, Omaha
Yes, but that is weighted into the rank, you cannot be an Lt Col without having all those
The two Commando Specialists have several pages of winners, making it impractical for me to check
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Phread
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van Voort
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Re:Year End Rankings
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Wed, 26 December 2012 10:00
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Yeah, it is a question of how tedious I want to make this.
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Jeronimon
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Wed, 26 December 2012 10:20
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Van Voort, with the ranking system you propose I think players who play a lot will come out on top. Will your ranking not be a list almost identical to a list ranking who has played the most games?
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van Voort
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Wed, 26 December 2012 10:27
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I am not sure about that until I do it
Of the top 20 ranked players, only 6 have played more than 1,000
And there are not that many overall who have played 2,000 or more
I might add in 1 point for winning one of the Tournaments
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rasmussen81
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Wed, 26 December 2012 10:40
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Sounds like a LOT of work!!  But if that's fun for you, I'd be interested in seeing the list. 
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Jeronimon
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Wed, 26 December 2012 14:03
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I would be interested in the end of year ranking also. It would be a fun way to look at our standing.
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stevens
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Wed, 26 December 2012 17:01
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44th = 6
2000+ = 2
SFTF 2nd = 10 (if I play a game) since I haven't for 15 days = 0
<500 = 0
Brig. Gen = 10
TOTAL = 18 / If I play and expert game = 28
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van Voort
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van Voort
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van Voort
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Thu, 27 December 2012 09:39
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Very tight at the top, if Lespieuch had made Brig - which he seems very close to doing, he would have pipped Quit
Phread, Stevie and Nygaard suffered from not having a top 50 ranking in SFTF
Note that I only looked at:
Top 100 players by offficial rank
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All Flag Officers
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All advanced historians
The 127 players listed here are not necessarily the top 127 that you'd get if you rated everybody according to these criteria (but that is not going to happen unless DOW send me the entire database...)
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silenttimo
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Thu, 27 December 2012 12:01
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Well,
I sure am proud to be high in your ranking.
I am not sure I truly deserve to be that high.
Thanks for the input, however.
But if I had to establish my OWN top ranking, among the 10 best players I have met, you would find :
- Buidheo
- JRyan
- Droopy007
- Lujo
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Phread
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Thu, 27 December 2012 20:43
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I was fortunate to have 2 wins before I went on holiday that took me from #48 to #28 in the DoW rankings. Otherwise I think I would not be in the list above.
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van Voort
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Re:Year End Rankings
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Thu, 27 December 2012 21:19
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It would bump you down to below Nygaard, so you would still be up there
Ratings are very grainy with not a lot of difference, if I had the chance I would do it based on absolute rating, probably using a non-linear scale
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van Voort
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Re:Year End Rankings
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Thu, 27 December 2012 21:31
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| silenttimo wrote on Thu, 27 December 2012 11:01 |
Well,
I sure am proud to be high in your ranking.
I am not sure I truly deserve to be that high.
Thanks for the input, however.
But if I had to establish my OWN top ranking, among the 10 best players I have met, you would find :
- Buidheo
- JRyan
- Droopy007
- Lujo
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Well, you are the best ranked player across both ranking systems
The only reason you aren't top is advanced historian
Jryan is 26th based on Official Scenarios and Rank
Droopy is 62nd based on rank and games played only, not in either top tier at the moment
Lujo - don't know, not in the 127. Possibly not active, there are lots of good players who are not
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stevens
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