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Re:Promotion Requirements Sun, 24 July 2011 19:41
ok...

10 wins each side, Western Front - minimum 5 different scenarios each - check

Med Front - check

Eastern Front - check

Next stop, Pacific
      
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Re:Promotion Requirements Wed, 03 August 2011 15:34
Morgiliath



To become:

Lt.Colonel - 10 victories as each side (Allies and Axis) in each of the currently (May 2011) available theatres (Western Front, Mediterranean, Eastern Front, Far East) - that's 80 victories in total


Well, I do understand that you need 20 victories AFTER being promoted to captain to become a major.

For becoming Lt Colonel, do you need 80 victories (10 for each side on each theater) AFTER becoming major, or is that a grand total ??

Thanks.

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Re:Promotion Requirements Wed, 03 August 2011 15:54
I already had enough victories in the Western theatre as a major but not enough in the other theatres. So I played and won enough scenarioes in the other theatres to get promotion to Lt-Cl. Surprised
At least 10 victories for both Axis and Allies in every theatre (=Grand total).

Your victories before becoming major are taken into account.
Don't take Rzhev and Warsaw into account for this promotion since the promotion criteria were set before these battles were available. Rolling Eyes

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Re:Promotion Requirements Sat, 20 August 2011 23:04
Hi Guys,

I am hoping you can lend your expertise to my situation. I downloaded my game history and it appears I have 10 victories on each side for each theatre.I did not count Rzhev, Battle for Warsaw,Gallabat, Tunisia, Toulon or Montelimar. Any ideas, suggestions on what I need to do to reach Lt. Col. Don't think I will ever reach higher than that but would appreciate any advice.

Thanks and roll grenades!
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Re:Promotion Requirements Sun, 21 August 2011 01:13
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Re:Promotion Requirements Sun, 21 August 2011 01:18
There was some thought that a minimum of 5 different scenarios had to be played - from each side/each front, as well.
      
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Re:Promotion Requirements Sun, 21 August 2011 06:26
Pattonfan wrote on Sat, 20 August 2011 22:04

Hi Guys,

I am hoping you can lend your expertise to my situation. I downloaded my game history and it appears I have 10 victories on each side for each theatre.I did not count Rzhev, Battle for Warsaw,Gallabat, Tunisia, Toulon or Montelimar. Any ideas, suggestions on what I need to do to reach Lt. Col. Don't think I will ever reach higher than that but would appreciate any advice.

Thanks and roll grenades!
Major Pattonfan


Try playing as many different maps as possible. I didn't have to play them all, but it was when I was pursuing that goal that my promotion materialized.
      
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Re:Promotion Requirements Sun, 21 August 2011 15:35
Thank you all. I will keep playing and review my games to ensure I have played on 5 different maps in each Theatre.
      
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Re:Promotion Requirements Wed, 24 August 2011 04:58
Well I have won 10 victories in each theatre for Axis & Allies, and have won on both sides in at least 5 different scenarios in each theatre. I did not count scenarios that were not the originals. Now what? Any suggestions?
      
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Re:Promotion Requirements Wed, 24 August 2011 05:06
I've been frustrated too, especially with the bogus scenarios that don't count for promotion. I think I have my 80:

Western: 12 Axis, 10 Allies
Pacific: 10 Axis, 10 Allies
Eastern: 10 Axis, 10 Allies
Not including:
---Battle of Warsaw (1&3)
---Rzhev (3&4)
Mediter: 12 Axis, 10 Allies
Not including:
---Gallabat & Metemma (0&1)
---Toulon (0&1)
---Montelimar (1&1)
---Tunisia (1&0)

I've won at least 5 different scenarios as Axis and Allies in each theater (though not the same scenario).

Recently, I've won as Axis and Allies against Majors in each theater.

I have 165 battles. If I need 200 battles to make Lt. Col., that would be a drag.

To make Captain, I needed 24 battles (22 didn't cut it, though I had the other requirements). I think this is so people couldn't make Captain on the free trial. They'd have to play only 2-credit games.

I want my promotion: pay up.

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Re:Promotion Requirements Wed, 24 August 2011 19:05
jfkoski wrote on Wed, 24 August 2011 07:06

I've been frustrated too, especially with the bogus scenarios that don't count for promotion.


Forgive me if I missed where you have already talked about this, but what bogus scenarios? Rolling Eyes

I'm guessing you're talking about Solo battles and Expert Mode battles...but it is clearly explained in the documentation that the only battles counting toward promotions and badges are Normal scenarios. Razz
      
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Re:Promotion Requirements Wed, 24 August 2011 19:10
It appears that scenarios that have been released after the promotion requirements for Lt. Colonel do not count for the promotion. So you need to win 10 Eastern Front battles on each side, but not including Warsaw and Rzhev, for example.

Welcome back, Jesse! It's been quiet around here without you. Smile

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Re:Promotion Requirements Wed, 24 August 2011 20:51
gheintze wrote on Wed, 24 August 2011 21:10

It appears that scenarios that have been released after the promotion requirements for Lt. Colonel do not count for the promotion. So you need to win 10 Eastern Front battles on each side, but not including Warsaw and Rzhev, for example.


Ah, that explains the frustration. Any word on if it's a bug or intentional? Seems strange, so I hope people have submitted it as a bug if you're sure of the problem! You know me and the "submit a bug report" mantra!! Very Happy

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Welcome back, Jesse! It's been quiet around here without you. Smile

Geoff


Thank you, Geoff. You're too kind! It's good to be back, although I can't complain about two months of traveling the world! Cool

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Re:Promotion Requirements Mon, 15 April 2013 01:01
OK
I know its 2013 now and that is my only hope here,

I have won every official scenario as both sides, other than 9 as Axis on the new official list, that is hurdles over 80 victorys (I am working on the rest currently) but what am I missing here ?

Currently I rank Major, 400 games now, played and won all different ranks to try and see if that was the problem HQ have with keeping me down.

Any thoughts ?
Thank You.
Powell.....
      
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Re:Promotion Requirements Mon, 15 April 2013 03:11
Major Powell have you read the very first post of this discussion?

Morgiliath wrote on Mon, 02 May 2011 01:36

Lt.Colonel - 10 victories as each side (Allies and Axis) in each of the currently (May 2011) available theatres (Western Front, Mediterranean, Eastern Front, Far East) - that's 80 victories in total



Have you got 10 victories from each side in each theatre?
Are you sure that you have? Many thought they had and then found they didn't.
      
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Re:Promotion Requirements Mon, 15 April 2013 03:33
Also, I believe that these 80 victories have to come after you make Major.
      
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  Re:Promotion Requirements Mon, 15 April 2013 17:24
Arghh Yes Yes !
This sounds like it might be my answer !

I wrote down all the scenaros and then went through my game list right back to the first game, I checked only wins against Human players but I know for sure I was not a Major on most of the early rounds.

Only other thing is the ones where a player ran off but I cant see that.

Well thanks for the input, I think I will re do the battles I counted as wins prior to the Major promotion date and see if that works.

See ya out there.
      
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Re:Promotion Requirements Mon, 15 April 2013 17:39
I dont know as I am stuck as Major also right now.

I have won every map, other than 7 in western, (well over the 80) as both sides but what someone told me is that they think the wins need to be after you were promoted to Major so not to count the wins prior.

I am going to try this and see if it works.

Getting to Col though will be my real problem as I just dont know 5 or 3 people that I could recruit, one mate I thought may go for it just went quiet and starred LOL.
They dont know what there missing.
      
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Re:Promotion Requirements Mon, 15 April 2013 17:42
Yes I have the wins,

One idea could be that the wins have to be after you have the Major promotion and not to count the wins prior, so I'm going to check and see if that does it.

Thanks for the reply.
      
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Re:Promotion Requirements Mon, 15 April 2013 22:39
Powell wrote on Tue, 16 April 2013 03:39

I dont know as I am stuck as Major also right now.

I have won every map, other than 7 in western, (well over the 80) as both sides but what someone told me is that they think the wins need to be after you were promoted to Major so not to count the wins prior.

I am going to try this and see if it works.

Getting to Col though will be my real problem as I just dont know 5 or 3 people that I could recruit, one mate I thought may go for it just went quiet and starred LOL.
They dont know what there missing.


The promotion requirement for Colonel changed from recruiting new players to winning all scenarios from both sides and playing against an unstated number of cadets.

Of course it was all scenarios available in January 2012.
      
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Re:Promotion Requirements Mon, 15 April 2013 23:00
Maybe you need to check out this thread
      
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  Re:Promotion Requirements/Lt Col Just did it. Thu, 18 April 2013 21:27
OK Guys
Thanks to everyones input with this, I thought I better update the situation.

So I got the promotion just now from Major to Lt Col Very Happy

Be ready though for anything but a simple formula to how this works or did for me becasue non of the current intel (10 wins Axis, 10 Wins Allies, in each Thearte) come even close to adding up in my situation.

I would be very happy for anyone that may be further interested with the Promotion scale to go through my record to confirm and see that somthing else is missing.

I have wins in every single map as Allies, (Prior to thinking somthing was not right I was just happyly working to the Col promotion and I figured the Lt Col would come one way or another along the way but after getting so close to only needing 7 Axis wins in the Western Front to complete the main Col requirement I began to think I may have to skip a rank.

Here is what I did:
Counted all wins in career, some theartres had close to 40 wins but I only had 9 as Axis in Pacific.
OK great theres your answer! er no! after getting 3 more wins just for good measure still no Promotion.
So whats missing ?

I then minused the new Official scenaros from Dec 12 as wins and tallyed the figures, this gave me 2 wins as Allies in Eastern needed to make the min 10, OK great theres your answer! er no!
got those plus good mesure and still no promotion.
So whats missing ?

One good suggestion was that all 80 wins need to be after your Promotion Date to Major.
OK so I talyed the new figures and found I needed 1 Axis win in the Pacific, Great this has to be it, no sry not yet, got the win and added a couple for good luck but nothing yet again.
So whats missing ?

I was kindly sent a new thread on this subject that did include some new maps that I had been counting as wins that will not work, I was really pleased to get this new information as it must be my answer, I found that the new list had quite a lot of the Med front and this took my wins down from 27 Axis and 21 Allies to 9 Axis and 6 Allies on that Front WOW ! OK great this must be my answer, er no,
I played one round as Allies got the win and up it came "You Have Been Promoted" yesss but what about the Math ? it dident add up that cant have been it.
So whats missing ?

I can not see any formula that simply adds up to the 10 win rule.
If like me you felt that just winning all the scenaros from both sides will do it, it will not !, you will need to win the same map more than once to get the full 10 in some Fronts and make sure that the map also will count as a win towards your 10 by checking the other threads to get the FULL list of will not count maps.

Other than that I dont know what happend for me as each time I followed the formula nothing happened and now that it did it still does not add up.

Anyway, I will get back to finishing the 7 wins needed for Col and hopefully put all this math nonsense behind me.

Thanks again for the replys and input and please any Majors that are lost in the Promotion scandel too, can feel free to PM me and see if we cant put our heads together.

CYA Out there
Lt Col Powell



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Re:Promotion Requirements Thu, 18 April 2013 21:31
Thanks Phread

I added an update to the reply.
I Got the promotion but still cant see how the numbers worked.

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Re:Promotion Requirements Fri, 19 April 2013 06:34
After I made major, I counted 210 battles until I made Lt.Colonel (10 were Gallabat & Metemma, Rzhev and Warsaw so I suspect they didn't count).

Powell wrote on Thu, 18 April 2013 15:31

I Got the promotion but still cant see how the numbers worked.


It looks like you played 302 games from Major to Lt. Col. and I counted 114 of them were from scenarios added after the rollout, so it looks like it took ~200 games.

On your way to Colonel, besides the win requirements you may need 250 battles. Also, start recording what rank your opponent is, since you'll need to face a representative of each rank (cadets, 2nd Lt., 1st Lt., captains etc.) at each side on all fronts.

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Re:Promotion Requirements Fri, 19 April 2013 13:47
JFKoski wrote on Fri, 19 April 2013 00:34

After I made major, I counted 210 battles until I made Lt.Colonel (10 were Gallabat & Metemma, Rzhev and Warsaw so I suspect they didn't count).

Powell wrote on Thu, 18 April 2013 15:31

I Got the promotion but still cant see how the numbers worked.


It looks like you played 302 games from Major to Lt. Col. and I counted 114 of them were from scenarios added after the rollout, so it looks like it took ~200 games.

On your way to Colonel, besides the win requirements you may need 250 battles. Also, start recording what rank your opponent is, since you'll need to face a representative of each rank (cadets, 2nd Lt., 1st Lt., captains etc.) at each side on all fronts.

I am not certain that I played folks from every rank on every side on all fronts. So it may not be a requirement. Also it gets a bit fidilly when folks are getting promotions and their rank is changing to constantly track it. I did not do this and still managed to move up.

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Re:Promotion Requirements Fri, 19 April 2013 22:44
I did track it and can say for certain that I did not play cadets in all theatres. For the other ranks I cannot remember . And I am "mobile" now so I cannot check.

      
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Re:Promotion Requirements Sat, 20 April 2013 00:09
I did not win against all ranks in all theatres as an Lt Col

I did play 31 cadets, but only in Med and West

Scenarios I won as both sides:

eastern

Battle of Warsaw
Breakout at Klin
Breakout to Lisyanka
Gates of Moscow
Ponyri
Red Barricades Factory
Rzhev
Suomussalmi

mediterranean

1st Armoured to the rescue
Dug in at Sidi Omar
Escape via the Coastal Road
Flanking Maneuver at Bir Hakeim
Gallabat & Metemma
Hellfire Pass
Into the Cauldron
Knightsbridge
Montélimar
Panzers versus Grants
Sidi Rezegh Airfield
Toulon
Tunisia

pacific

Guam Landings
Japanese Counterattack
Matanikau River
Slopes of Mount Austen
Sugar Loaf and Half Moon
The Meat Grinder
Wake Island

western

Arnhem Bridge
Arracourt
Carentan Causeway
Counter-attack on Mortain
First Assault Wave
Juno Beach
Liberation of Paris
Mont Mouchet
Operation Cobra
Operation Goodwood
Operation Spring
Pegasus Bridge
Pointe-du-Hoc
Sainte-Mère-Eglise
Saverne Gap
St Vith
Sword Beach
Twin Villages
Vassieux

We know however that not all of those count
      
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Re:Promotion Requirements Sat, 20 April 2013 19:39
JFK

I just wanted to say thanks for looking at this,
you must be right that 200 hundred battles is also a requirement as well as the 80 wins.

I've started a spread sheet now that I made up as I cant open the Ecel thing so I will keep track on what I'm doing better.

I do find that an extra goal to work on IE promotion, does make the game that bit better for me anyway,
so I'm grateful for the intel I dont see it as a spoiler, more of shourt medium and long term goal.

I just dont do anything for fun as I'm a miserable sod, Very Happy LOL.

OK
Enough of the Tony Robbins promotion.

CYA out there.

      
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Re:Promotion Requirements Sat, 20 April 2013 21:34
Jeronimon wrote on Fri, 19 April 2013 16:44

I did track it and can say for certain that I did not play cadets in all theatres. For the other ranks I cannot remember . And I am "mobile" now so I cannot check.

I checked your record. You made Lt. Colonel Oct 8,2011.
After that you played a Cadet/Fähnrich/Aspirant etc. on both sides of:
Sword Beach (West),
1st Armoured to the Rescue (Med),
Guam Landings (Pac), and
Breakout at Klin (East) which is all theaters.

(You played a cadet at both sides of Warsaw, but I thought that might not count so kept looking until I found Klin.)

Finding whether someone played captains is much harder, so I recommend taking notes as one goes.

The game before I was promoted to Colonel, I was Allies at Saverne Gap and my opponent was a Captain. I hadn't played a Captain as Allies in a Western Front scenario since making Lt. Colonel. At the time I thought I might have to still find some 2nd Lieutenants, but I may have missed recording them.

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Re:Promotion Requirements Sun, 21 April 2013 10:31
Wow, that must have taken some backtracking, no?

I comment your enthousiasm and touroughness.
(And am a bit in awe of it.)

Smile
      
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Re:Promotion Requirements Tue, 21 May 2013 04:49
Hello troops,

I recently was promoted to Major and thought I would share my game log since I made Captain, to help figure out the Major requirements.

First I'll say what I did NOT do since making CPT (having read previous posts):
- I did NOT win 20 games since CPT (only 16).
- I did NOT win against every other rank, but close. I was only missing a win against LTC.

What I did do:
- tried to win against as many different countries as I could. I won against everyone except Japan and Italy.
- As mentioned above, tried to win against every other rank. I only missed LTC.
- tried to win against a MAJ from every country. For that, I only had 3.

So in the end I was promoted to MAJ after only 57 total victories, and only 16 since CPT. Hope this helps!

Now starts the long slog to LTC!
(I will be pursuing the strategy of 10 wins/side/theater coupled with the 5 different scenario rule.... I'll let ya know)
      
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Re:Promotion Requirements Wed, 22 May 2013 14:23
It seems highly illogical that you have to play majors or higher to become a major.

As soon as the major rank became implemented there simply weren't any majors yet to choose as opponents. So the first ever player to be promoted to major never had a major as opponent.

I guess you should limit your choice to cadets up to captains as far as rank requirements in opponents go for this promotion.

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Re:Promotion Requirements Fri, 24 May 2013 07:33
waaayback wrote on Tue, 21 May 2013 04:49

Hello troops,

I recently was promoted to Major and thought I would share my game log since I made Captain, to help figure out the Major requirements.

First I'll say what I did NOT do since making CPT (having read previous posts):
- I did NOT win 20 games since CPT (only 16).
- I did NOT win against every other rank, but close. I was only missing a win against LTC.

What I did do:
- tried to win against as many different countries as I could. I won against everyone except Japan and Italy.
- As mentioned above, tried to win against every other rank. I only missed LTC.
- tried to win against a MAJ from every country. For that, I only had 3.

So in the end I was promoted to MAJ after only 57 total victories, and only 16 since CPT. Hope this helps!

Now starts the long slog to LTC!
(I will be pursuing the strategy of 10 wins/side/theater coupled with the 5 different scenario rule.... I'll let ya know)


Looking at your record I count exactly 20 wins from Captain to Major. So I would say that that requirement still stands. Razz
      
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Re:Promotion Requirements Fri, 24 May 2013 16:01
2nd Lieutenant, 1st Lieutenant and Major is kind of a gimme. You just need to play and win.

It's too bad there's not a another requirement for Major, since the result is fewer Captains. I suppose there could be something we didn't notice like win a number of different scenarios. It would be funny if people who want to be expert at 1-4 scenarios never made it past Captain. But chances are those people didn't bother winning Arnhem/First Assault from the hard side to make Captain and are still at 1st Lieutenant.

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Re:Promotion Requirements Fri, 24 May 2013 16:10
I still think there is another requirement for getting to be a Major. DoW states:

"Word at HQ is that you've scored well over a dozen victories against a variety of opponents. This certainly seems to be true, judging from the ribbons and awards you collected!"

I feel there is a minimum of awards and ribbons you need to have, but most of us already have the right amount when we get to the 20th win.
      
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Re:Promotion Requirements Sat, 25 May 2013 06:30
There are plenty of high rated players who are only subalterns, that's why when I did the year end rankings I took rank into account and weighted Brig, Col and Lt Col fairly highly.

Lt Col - Played and won all once

Col - Played and won all twice

Brig - Played SFTF too.
      
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Re:Promotion Requirements Sat, 08 June 2013 03:36
Hi All,

The road to Lieutenant Colonel promotion is still awash in some uncertainty. I hope that my long slog to this rank holds some clues for those inquiring.

First, as has been stated before, the 10 wins on both sides in all four theaters of war after attaining Major rank is not enough.
Here is a count of my wins after attaining Major rank when I finally was promoted to Lieutenant Colonel:

_____________Allies_____Axis_____
Western........44........29
Eastern........30........47
Pacific........34........28
Mediterranean..24........33

That's right... 269 wins after achieving Major!
But some have suggested that certain battles have been added after the criteria for Lieutenant Colonel was devised. So take out wins for Caretan Causeway, Gold Beach, Operation Goodwood, Operation Spring, Utah Beach, Battle of Warsaw, Rzhev, Gallabat & Metemma, Knightsbridge, Montelimer, Toulon, and Tunisia. That gets me to:

_____________Allies_____Axis_____
Western........43........29
Eastern........18........27
Pacific........34........28
Mediterranean..16........28

Now we're at... 223 wins after achieving Major. Still no convincing set of criteria jumps out.
Finally, if we just count the wins against Major ranks or higher, we come down to these last numbers:

_____________Allies_____Axis_____
Western........18........10
Eastern........11........19
Pacific........14.........8
Mediterranean...8........15

For a total of... 103 wins after achieving Major, against only Majors or higher, and using only the original battle scenarios. Notice that I did not have to have 10 wins on both sides with this whittled down criteria count. The promotion was achieved when I won my 8th Axis win in the Pacific.

So I'll suggest that to get to Lieutenant Colonel, you need at least 8 wins on both sides against Major (or higher) opponents in the original battle scenarios.

Last little wrinkle: I won the Star Wars medal on the same battle that I was promoted to Lieutenant Colonel. Could a player need a certain amount of medals to get promoted to Lieutenant Colonel? I haven't heard anyone getting promoted to LC while simultaneously earning a medal, so I think in my case it might have been just a coincidence (?).

Hope this helps.

Thanks to all who've battled me in the past... and thanks, in advance, for those who will battle me in the future.
      
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