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Re:New Memoir '44 Equipment Pack - largest set of figures ever! Thu, 07 June 2012 15:57
At last....most of these troop types have been on my wish list since I first got into M44. Really excited about this expansion and it is good to know that DOW have listened to the requests that have been on the forum......great job DOW.
      
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Re:New Memoir '44 Equipment Pack - largest set of figures ever! Thu, 07 June 2012 18:46
magick wrote on Thu, 07 June 2012 15:14

Razz I think I've just inherited some of that drool that stevens was suffering with.Looks absolutely amazing [the expansion,not the drool].Looking forward very much to buying this one.


For a minute there, I thought stevens had a not so secret admirer. Laughing

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Re:New Memoir '44 Equipment Pack - largest set of figures ever! Thu, 07 June 2012 22:07
WONDERFUL - WONDERFUL - WONDERFUL!!!

A dream come true! Thanks DOW!!!

@ stevens & tinsoldier : nice to hear we think the same Smile
      
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Re:New Memoir '44 Equipment Pack - largest set of figures ever! Thu, 07 June 2012 23:14
Turboheizer wrote on Thu, 07 June 2012 05:38

Regarding the special weapons (AT guns, machine guns and mortars), I still think it is easier to play with the badges than with the figures. As you still need the four infantrymen, there is simpley too little space for them on the hexes.



I never had that problem with the AT guns. I guess I don't care if they spill over a bit.
      
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Re:New Memoir '44 Equipment Pack - largest set of figures ever! Fri, 08 June 2012 01:49
Many of us find it very disappointing that the minis are all generic gray. Nation specific minis should have been cast in their national colors. The poll over BGG is running about 85% in favor of national colors.

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/812757/poll-generic-vs-n ational-colors

And no, I do not want to paint them myself. For what this supplement costs, I shouldn't have to.

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Re:New Memoir '44 Equipment Pack - largest set of figures ever! Fri, 08 June 2012 02:19
Springheeledjack wrote on Thu, 07 June 2012 17:49

Many of us find it very disappointing that the minis are all generic gray. Nation specific minis should have been cast in their national colors. The poll over BGG is running about 85% in favor of national colors.

http://www.boardgamegeek.com/thread/812757/poll-generic-vs-n ational-colors

And no, I do not want to paint them myself. For what this supplement costs, I shouldn't have to.


There will always be something to nit-pick about.
      
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Re:New Memoir '44 Equipment Pack - largest set of figures ever! Fri, 08 June 2012 04:34
I would like a better view of the troops (French Infantry, Finnish Ski Troops, and Polish Cavalry).

I am going buy the pack, just would like to know how they fit with my 1/72 collection. Very Happy

No B-17 Sad
      
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Re:New Memoir '44 Equipment Pack - largest set of figures ever! Fri, 08 June 2012 14:03
I think everyone should be thankful for the expansions coming. Some people would not be satisfied if certain figures were colored sky blue pink. I think that DOW is doing a great job of supporting the Memoir '44 gaming system.

Thank you DOW

Trumpetman52 Smile Smile
      
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Re:New Memoir '44 Equipment Pack - largest set of figures ever! Fri, 08 June 2012 15:19
Hello,

long thread to go by... Very Happy I'm guessing the hype is so big after the official announcement.

One thing I've noticed and not sure if others have asked yet...

No airplane minis included? Even the new Junkers-88 is missing in the photo...

Umm, that gives me hopes to see a 2nd edition of the long-awaited Air Pack! Even Mighter yet!!! Very Happy Laughing

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Re:New Memoir '44 Equipment Pack - largest set of figures ever! Fri, 08 June 2012 17:33
Yep, no airplanes are included in this expansion, as you can see by looking at the description. Who knows, maybe we'll see a new Air Pack, though I haven't ever heard of a plan for that from DoW... Razz Cool

One can always hope!! Smile
      
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Re:New Memoir '44 Equipment Pack - largest set of figures ever! Fri, 08 June 2012 18:11
This is awesome news and I have been waiting for something like this to come a long for awhile now. Finally I won't have to look through piles of little badges.

On a somewhat different note I wonder if DoW had this same thing planned for Battlelore. Release a couple of epic maps with miniatures then hit fans with a huge box of miniatures. What could have been if they survived the wave of complaints. Oh well.
      
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Re:New Memoir '44 Equipment Pack - largest set of figures ever! Fri, 08 June 2012 21:52
What is the reason that Italian artillery is announced under 'Minor WWII nations' and not under 'Artillery types'?
      
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Re:New Memoir '44 Equipment Pack - largest set of figures ever! Fri, 08 June 2012 21:59
maybe because italian arty has different rules for being _italian_. The other listed arty types will have different rules because of the different type.
      
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Re:New Memoir '44 Equipment Pack - largest set of figures ever! Fri, 08 June 2012 22:36
But all armies have their own rules and came in their own expansions why not an itlaian army pack?
      
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Re:New Memoir '44 Equipment Pack - largest set of figures ever! Fri, 08 June 2012 22:51
Because DoW has offices in France, not Italy.
      
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OUT-FREAKIN'-STANDING!!!
Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up Thumbs Up

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Re:New Memoir '44 Equipment Pack - largest set of figures ever! Sat, 09 June 2012 09:42
--JP wrote on Fri, 08 June 2012 22:51

Because DoW has offices in France, not Italy.


Their not in russia either Very Happy
      
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Re:New Memoir '44 Equipment Pack - largest set of figures ever! Sat, 09 June 2012 09:56
Antoi wrote on Sat, 09 June 2012 09:42

--JP wrote on Fri, 08 June 2012 22:51

Because DoW has offices in France, not Italy.


They're not in russia either Very Happy


France had a treaty with Russia. Italy stabbed France in the back (or tried to). Eastern Front was also quite big with lots of fighting. Don't hear quite the same when the Italians are described.

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Re:New Memoir '44 Equipment Pack - largest set of figures ever! Sat, 09 June 2012 10:24
bdgza wrote on Sat, 09 June 2012 11:56

Eastern Front was also quite big with lots of fighting. Don't hear quite the same when the Italians are described.


Quite big? Rolling Eyes I think that might be an understatement! Looking at army sizes, casualty estimates, land covered, length and ferocity of battles, and material used, there was no theater like the Eastern Front. Smile

Sadly our western education systems (which I am a part of, as a teacher) focus on the western theater where our men were fighting and dying, instead of looking at a global view, but in the end the Germans lost much more in the east... Razz Very Happy

I don't think the decision about including the Italians in the Equipment Pack had anything to do with where the company is based. If that were the case the French Army would have received its own expansion instead of also being included in the Equipment Pack! Cool

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Re:New Memoir '44 Equipment Pack - largest set of figures ever! Sat, 09 June 2012 13:53
The italian arty is included because there are special rules for italian arty.
      
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Re:New Memoir '44 Equipment Pack - largest set of figures ever! Sat, 09 June 2012 14:45

--JP wrote on Sat, 09 June 2012 13:53

The italian arty is included because there are special rules for italian arty.

What are the special rules?
Why would that be a reason not to sum them up with the rest of the special artillery? All those artillery units also have special rules in comparison to 'normal' artillery?
It's not a big deal, but I was just wondering if the Italian artillery is maybe falling in another category than the other special artillery... Hmm, It's a bit difficult to explain my question in English Confused
      
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Re:New Memoir '44 Equipment Pack - largest set of figures ever! Sat, 09 June 2012 14:50
Italian arty may ignore the first flag (Italian Army rules)
      
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Re:New Memoir '44 Equipment Pack - largest set of figures ever! Sat, 09 June 2012 20:18
rasmussen81 wrote on Thu, 07 June 2012 08:36

ad79 wrote on Thu, 07 June 2012 11:31

Antoi wrote on Thu, 07 June 2012 08:08

Thanks, there are 3 of each, thus not 6 as in the battlemaps.

When Looking at the picture (yes again ) i noticed something else, it seems like you can give the " funnies" other equipment depending on the scenario. Or not?


Antoine wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 13:20

ad79 écrit le Wed, 06 June 2012 11:52


What were the specific accessories for the Hobart used for?


The Hobart's Funnies accessories can be used to clear minefields, cross rivers, ignore trenches, beaches, wire or marshes, blow up bunkers with 290 mm shells, etc. Very Happy




So basically the mini's will behave exactly like the real things did 68 years ago!! I love this game! Very Happy



its even better than that. The base vehicle is a churchill tank, so we now have a british tank that fought in the Western theatre! THat means DoW have moulds for churchills!

Now since you have the moulds for a churchill, how about a full set so we can play the brits in Normandy with British tanks Smile
      
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  Re:New Memoir '44 Equipment Pack - largest set of figures ever! Sat, 09 June 2012 20:53
PlanBee wrote on Sat, 09 June 2012 13:18

rasmussen81 wrote on Thu, 07 June 2012 08:36

ad79 wrote on Thu, 07 June 2012 11:31

Antoi wrote on Thu, 07 June 2012 08:08

Thanks, there are 3 of each, thus not 6 as in the battlemaps.

When Looking at the picture (yes again ) i noticed something else, it seems like you can give the " funnies" other equipment depending on the scenario. Or not?


Antoine wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 13:20

ad79 écrit le Wed, 06 June 2012 11:52


What were the specific accessories for the Hobart used for?


The Hobart's Funnies accessories can be used to clear minefields, cross rivers, ignore trenches, beaches, wire or marshes, blow up bunkers with 290 mm shells, etc. Very Happy




So basically the mini's will behave exactly like the real things did 68 years ago!! I love this game! Very Happy



its even better than that. The base vehicle is a churchill tank, so we now have a british tank that fought in the Western theatre! THat means DoW have moulds for churchills!

Now since you have the moulds for a churchill, how about a full set so we can play the brits in Normandy with British tanks Smile


But isn't it going to have a hole for attachments in front ?
Isnt that 'roll' on the back, part of the tanks mold ?

With all this 'brew-hah-hah' over Generic* gray pieces...

_ national coloring
_one tank destroyer _ for all factions
_one mobile artillery _ for all factions
_one machinegun _ for all factions
_one halftrack _ for all factions
_ And helmet shapes
_ it goes on & on & on ......


No, that mold - will never-never do !

Sorry,, your idea will only work on mine & your gameboards!!
(Thanks for the idea and noticing that)


*characteristic of or relating to a class or group of things; not specific
      
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Re:New Memoir '44 Equipment Pack - largest set of figures ever! Sat, 09 June 2012 21:00
--JP wrote on Sat, 09 June 2012 14:50

Italian arty may ignore the first flag (Italian Army rules)

Aaah, thanks
      
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Re:New Memoir '44 Equipment Pack - largest set of figures ever! Sun, 10 June 2012 01:59
My take.

Good idea of an equipment pack.

What I like:

The inclusion of the pieces in the various battlemaps - I already have those but it is nice to know that those who did not get a chance to acquire these the first time around can do so now.

Polish Cav and Finnish ski troops, snipers TDs and mobile Arty - it will add that eye candy flavor to those scenarios that use those troops.

The various arty pcs - however it would have been nice to have replaced the brittle US and Ger arty (really AT guns) in the base game.

and what I am lukewarm about:

I am somewhat disappointed that it looks like there will not be full blown Army Packs for either the Italians and French (in their own colors). So instead we get Fr Inf with no arty or armor and just It arty with no inf or armor.

I will have to see the rules and scenarios for the funnies to see how excited I get about them.

The landing craft do not seem that necessary.

That is not to say that I will not be buying this product and certainly welcome this expansion. Hey, who cannot use more toys Laughing But it seems like it could have been a bit better - IMO.

      
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Re:New Memoir '44 Equipment Pack - largest set of figures ever! Sun, 10 June 2012 09:00
Paletti wrote on Sat, 09 June 2012 14:45


--JP wrote on Sat, 09 June 2012 13:53

The italian arty is included because there are special rules for italian arty.

What are the special rules?
Why would that be a reason not to sum them up with the rest of the special artillery? All those artillery units also have special rules in comparison to 'normal' artillery?
It's not a big deal, but I was just wondering if the Italian artillery is maybe falling in another category than the other special artillery... Hmm, It's a bit difficult to explain my question in English Confused

Hi Mr. Paletti,
Look here at page 7.
http://cdn1.daysofwonder.com/memoir44/en/img/mm_mediterranea n_en.pdf
Glad to help.
      
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Re:New Memoir '44 Equipment Pack - largest set of figures ever! Sun, 10 June 2012 15:32
Few questions, hope they're not too stupid:

1. Why are there 12 Italian artillery pieces? Is there any reason for that huge number? They sure look great, but I don't quite grasp the point.

2. On the photo there are no Long Toms. True/false?

3. If the both sides have, say, one unit of mobile artillery, what's your idea of distinguishing those? Probably we all here agree that we should precisely distinguish before we extinguish Very Happy

4. Does this applying the same type of unit to all nations mean that we'll be now replacing the Soviet late war heavy tanks (and other nations' too, probably) with the Tigers?

This last one doesn't bother me too much 'cause I painted my TitS Tigers in German color so these albino ones can be freely used by others... Laughing
      
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Re:New Memoir '44 Equipment Pack - largest set of figures ever! Sun, 10 June 2012 17:35
Erik Uitdebroeck wrote on Sun, 10 June 2012 09:00

Paletti wrote on Sat, 09 June 2012 14:45


--JP wrote on Sat, 09 June 2012 13:53

The italian arty is included because there are special rules for italian arty.

What are the special rules?
Why would that be a reason not to sum them up with the rest of the special artillery? All those artillery units also have special rules in comparison to 'normal' artillery?
It's not a big deal, but I was just wondering if the Italian artillery is maybe falling in another category than the other special artillery... Hmm, It's a bit difficult to explain my question in English Confused

Hi Mr. Paletti,
Look here at page 7.
http://cdn1.daysofwonder.com/memoir44/en/img/mm_mediterranea n_en.pdf
Glad to help.


Thanks Smile
      
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Re:New Memoir '44 Equipment Pack - largest set of figures ever! Sun, 10 June 2012 18:36
Orc Breath wrote on Sat, 09 June 2012 19:53

PlanBee wrote on Sat, 09 June 2012 13:18

rasmussen81 wrote on Thu, 07 June 2012 08:36

ad79 wrote on Thu, 07 June 2012 11:31

Antoi wrote on Thu, 07 June 2012 08:08

Thanks, there are 3 of each, thus not 6 as in the battlemaps.

When Looking at the picture (yes again ) i noticed something else, it seems like you can give the " funnies" other equipment depending on the scenario. Or not?


Antoine wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 13:20

ad79 écrit le Wed, 06 June 2012 11:52


What were the specific accessories for the Hobart used for?


The Hobart's Funnies accessories can be used to clear minefields, cross rivers, ignore trenches, beaches, wire or marshes, blow up bunkers with 290 mm shells, etc. Very Happy




So basically the mini's will behave exactly like the real things did 68 years ago!! I love this game! Very Happy



its even better than that. The base vehicle is a churchill tank, so we now have a british tank that fought in the Western theatre! THat means DoW have moulds for churchills!

Now since you have the moulds for a churchill, how about a full set so we can play the brits in Normandy with British tanks Smile


But isn't it going to have a hole for attachments in front ?
Isnt that 'roll' on the back, part of the tanks mold ?

With all this 'brew-hah-hah' over Generic* gray pieces...

_ national coloring
_one tank destroyer _ for all factions
_one mobile artillery _ for all factions
_one machinegun _ for all factions
_one halftrack _ for all factions
_ And helmet shapes
_ it goes on & on & on ......


No, that mold - will never-never do !

Sorry,, your idea will only work on mine & your gameboards!!
(Thanks for the idea and noticing that)


*characteristic of or relating to a class or group of things; not specific




Tut tut no imagination. The early churchills ahd a howitzer gund in the hull, so stick a bit of plastic in the hole and you've got an early churchill.


http://turtledove.wikia.com/wiki/Churchill_Tank

More seriously, if there is a mould, making some without the hole in it wont be a big problem, I'm more worried about the fascine on the back Smile

Cheers
Guy
      
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Re:New Memoir '44 Equipment Pack - largest set of figures ever! Sun, 10 June 2012 19:50
Sorry to change the subject a little bit away from the Churchill tanks...everyone can go back to speculating in a second...but does anyone else like the artwork on the box cover?! Razz Cool

When I look at that box, it just makes me smile!! It would be so cool to have a poster of each Memoir '44 box, but this cover might be my favorite so far! I can't wait to see it sitting on my shelf next to the base game. Very Happy

Ok, back to the figures...sorry for the distraction! Cool
      
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Re:New Memoir '44 Equipment Pack - largest set of figures ever! Sun, 10 June 2012 21:30
"Tut tut no imagination. The early Churchill's had a howitzer gun in the hull, so stick a bit of plastic in the hole and you've got an early churchill."

"More seriously, if there is a mould, making some without the hole in it wont be a big problem, I'm more worried about the fasciae on the back"

Exactly !!! Laughing

I'm surprised no one has broken out with the old
' these kids today have no imagination... ' speech.

But seriously, didn't Eric or someone say years ago under the M'44 or Battlelore subject, Days of Wonder is a gaming company NOT a miniatures company ??

I can't imagine DoW making all these different nations/colors - tank destroyers, mobile arty, SWA's , Guns, Infantry and different Tank classes for different nations ..
It would never stop ..! Rolling Eyes

That's why I believe they came up with the off-white fig's. !!!!!

And Mr. B seems to be a little busy with other 'works' to be coming up with rules for all this 'variety' demanded.

It's really nice we (finally)Razz have this set coming.

I look forward to having many hours of enjoyment with the figures (instead of labeling chits) this set offers ....

And if some figs. and rules trickle out later, so much the better. Very Happy
      
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Re:New Memoir '44 Equipment Pack - largest set of figures ever! Sun, 10 June 2012 22:38
25 summary cards.......

Can't think of 25 old rules/units so I suppose the summary cards are also for the new units. but 25?????

The only I can think of are some cards for the CB2 expension (jungle fighters) and some for the new units (Nebelwerfer, Funnies and accessories , Kubelwagen)

So also some new rules perhaps?? Or what do I forget here??
      
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Re:New Memoir '44 Equipment Pack - largest set of figures ever! Sun, 10 June 2012 22:50
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Sorry to change the subject a little bit away from the Churchill tanks...everyone can go back to speculating in a second...but does anyone else like the artwork on the box cover?! Razz Cool

When I look at that box, it just makes me smile!! It would be so cool to have a poster of each Memoir '44 box, but this cover might be my favorite so far! I can't wait to see it sitting on my shelf next to the base game. Very Happy

Ok, back to the figures...sorry for the distraction! Cool


I agree, it's a good cover. But I can't find the sniper. I hope there is one somewhere in there.

All this talk of helmets for the British and such grumblings just made me want to use those figures, so I soloes Capture of Tobruk tonight, with unpainted minis and an unprotected map. Germans won.

A very good scenario.
      
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Re:New Memoir '44 Equipment Pack - largest set of figures ever! Sun, 10 June 2012 23:10
Lujo wrote on Sun, 10 June 2012 09:32

Few questions, hope they're not too stupid:

2. On the photo there are no Long Toms. True/false?



Look in the front row. I believe the Long Tom piece is between the "88" and the Tiger

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Re:New Memoir '44 Equipment Pack - largest set of figures ever! Sun, 10 June 2012 23:15
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But I can't find the sniper.


I used my zoom setting (400%) and believe the sniper piece is in front of the Nebelwerfers. It looks like they are on a base.

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Re:New Memoir '44 Equipment Pack - largest set of figures ever! Sun, 10 June 2012 23:54
This gets a big 'wOOt!' from me. Very excited to see this pack. It's just the sort of thing I hoped to see.

Can't wait to buy it!
      
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Re:New Memoir '44 Equipment Pack - largest set of figures ever! Mon, 11 June 2012 00:55
The "Hobart Funnies" would appear to be Churchill AVRE tanks.

Churchill AVRE

A Churchill III or IV equipped with the Petard, a 290 mm Spigot mortar, throwing the 40 lb (18 kg) "Flying dustbin" with its 28 pound high explosive warhead; a weapon designed for the quick levelling of fortifications developed by MD1.

The petard was reloaded by traversing the turret to the co-driver's hatch. The co-driver then breaks down open the petard barrel and pushes the petard round into the barrel and then closes it. The co-driver's hands are briefly exposed during the process.

The AVRE was designed after the Canadian defeat at Dieppe, and could also be equipped with numerous other attachments, such as mine flails, fascine rollers, explosive placers etc.

The crew of six were drawn from the Royal Engineers, except for the driver who came from the Royal Armoured Corps. One of the RE crew was a demolitions NCO sapper responsible for priming the "Flying dustbin" and who led the crew when they dismounted from the tank to place demolition charges ("Wade" charges).
      
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Re:New Memoir '44 Equipment Pack - largest set of figures ever! Mon, 11 June 2012 02:58
tank commander wrote on Sun, 10 June 2012 15:10

Lujo wrote on Sun, 10 June 2012 09:32

Few questions, hope they're not too stupid:

2. On the photo there are no Long Toms. True/false?



Look in the front row. I believe the Long Tom piece is between the "88" and the Tiger


I think that's actually the Machine Gun SWA piece. I don't see any Long Toms. I don't think Long Toms are in the picture. Hopefully they are still in the expansion.

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Re:New Memoir '44 Equipment Pack - largest set of figures ever! Mon, 11 June 2012 03:51
Does anyone have an idea what this equipment pack will cost?
I'll have to start setting money aside for it.
      
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