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tnfishdaddy
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Vassal vs. DoW Online Sat, 22 December 2012 02:18
I just started playing Memoir 44 on the DoW website and I am loving it. I see that in some of you are playing on Vassal. Haven't looked into it yet. Which system is more popular? Should I be looking into Vassal or just stick with the DoW version?
      
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Re:Vassal vs. DoW Online Sat, 22 December 2012 02:41
They're different from each other, and in my opinion, they're both great.

The DoW version has a very convenient interface, which shows your options for moving and battling. It has built-in rule enforcement. And if you hover over terrain or units, you'll see the relevant summary cards. However, many of the newer units, terrains, and special rules haven't been programmed yet. Only a few dozen of the hundreds of official scenarios are available, but many user-designed scenarios are available, as well, and many of these are great, too. There usually are a number of players online, so if there isn't an available opponent, just wait a couple of minutes, and somebody will appear.

The Vassal version is just like having the board game, except that your opponent may be thousands of miles away. There's a wider variety of scenarios, including those that use special rules or units. The tradeoff there is that there's no rule enforcement; you have to know the rules (or look them up -- and the summary cards are available). Personally, I believe that needing to know the rules makes you a better player, so that's not a disadvantage. Breakthrough, Overlord, and "Breaklord" formats are available. You can do an Overlord with a full complement of players (and we do, several times a year). You can save a game in mid-stream, to resume at a later date (which means you're not tied to a game if some emergency comes up), and you can even play by email. You can see everyone who is in one of the "rooms," you can go into a room and observe a game, and you can even private-message a player who is in another room. But since the DoW version came out, there have been far fewer players on Vassal.

As I said, they're both great.
      
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Re:Vassal vs. DoW Online Sat, 22 December 2012 03:42
I would ditto everything Sam said. The main advantage to Vassal is the ability to use it as a teaching tool for rookies. Having been there myself, I must say it was a real blessing to have people like Sam take the time to use the Vassal software to take me through the paces.
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Re:Vassal vs. DoW Online Sat, 22 December 2012 05:21
Sounds like I need to figure out how to use Vassal and find some people willing to teach me as we play. I find myself letting the computer "tell" me where I can move and who I can shoot.
      
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Re:Vassal vs. DoW Online Tue, 25 December 2012 11:38
tnfishdaddy wrote on Fri, 21 December 2012 23:21

Sounds like I need to figure out how to use Vassal and find some people willing to teach me as we play. I find myself letting the computer "tell" me where I can move and who I can shoot.



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