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Unacceptable - No card replacements? Mon, 30 July 2007 15:29
Eric posted his apologies on the Blog today:

http://blog.battlelore.com/2007/07/30/two-new-adventures-and -embarrassing-mistakes/en/

If I am reading this correctly, they will replace the banner mistakes but will not be correcting the card back error. And we can expect more of the same with the next wave of Expansions as well. Shocked

I find this unacceptable and quite the negative mark against DOW's previously clean track record. Evil or Very Mad
      
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Re:Unacceptable - No card replacements? Mon, 30 July 2007 18:14
If it's the back of the cards that's the problem, and for a situation in which random choice is not an issue, why is it a problem? I must be missing something.
      
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Re:Unacceptable - No card replacements? Mon, 30 July 2007 18:29
well.... seeing as I have not purchased them yet... guess I'll just wait till the next print run of them...

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Re:Unacceptable - No card replacements? Mon, 30 July 2007 18:37
wmreed wrote on Mon, 30 July 2007 11:14

If it's the back of the cards that's the problem, and for a situation in which random choice is not an issue, why is it a problem? I must be missing something.

That was my initial reaction as well. However, here is a bit of discussion on the subject prior to DOW's announcement.

http://www.daysofwonder.com/en/msg/?th=12023&start=0

Perhaps it would be cheaper at this point to just permanently switch the card backs between Deployment and Specialist cards. Then they can just reprint Call to Arms instead of the other four expansions. (Though I think CtA still has more overall cards then the other 4 combined.)
      
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Re:Unacceptable - No card replacements? Mon, 30 July 2007 18:58
ColtsFan76 wrote on Mon, 30 July 2007 10:37

wmreed wrote on Mon, 30 July 2007 11:14

If it's the back of the cards that's the problem, and for a situation in which random choice is not an issue, why is it a problem? I must be missing something.

That was my initial reaction as well. However, here is a bit of discussion on the subject prior to DOW's announcement.

http://www.daysofwonder.com/en/msg/?th=12023&start=0

Perhaps it would be cheaper at this point to just permanently switch the card backs between Deployment and Specialist cards. Then they can just reprint Call to Arms instead of the other four expansions. (Though I think CtA still has more overall cards then the other 4 combined.)


Well Coltsfan, if there were those out there who were thinking that you were in lockstep with DOW, and wondering, "what's it gonna take for DOW to hack off Coltsfan?", this answers it definitively.
      
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Re:Unacceptable - No card replacements? Mon, 30 July 2007 18:58
Brian,

We simply have not figured out yet how to best fix this (without going broke, that is). Once we do, we will let everyone know.

In the meantime, I would like to stress again that this is purely an esthetic issue (which also explains why we didn't catch the error in the first place). Shuffling Specialist cards to draw them at random isn't really an option anyway (unless you then let players choose from that random choice, in which case the different backs won't matter).

As for the reason why this mistake will continue to appear repeatedly in upcoming packs, it is because all of the cards for the different sets were printed at the same time to keep the costs down. Rolling Eyes

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Re:Unacceptable - No card replacements? Mon, 30 July 2007 19:24
Zeal wrote on Mon, 30 July 2007 11:58

Well Coltsfan, if there were those out there who were thinking that you were in lockstep with DOW, and wondering, "what's it gonna take for DOW to hack off Coltsfan?", this answers it definitively.


Consider it a lover's quarrel. Embarassed I will try to kiss and make up with Eric now. Wink

(And who out there thinks I am in lockstep with DOW!?!?!)
      
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Re:Unacceptable - No card replacements? Mon, 30 July 2007 20:18
ColtsFan76 wrote on Mon, 30 July 2007 18:24

Zeal wrote on Mon, 30 July 2007 11:58

Well Coltsfan, if there were those out there who were thinking that you were in lockstep with DOW, and wondering, "what's it gonna take for DOW to hack off Coltsfan?", this answers it definitively.


I will try to kiss and make up with Eric now. Wink


Oh my God, no... just shake hands in a manly manner Cool
      
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Re:Unacceptable - No card replacements? Mon, 30 July 2007 22:36
I have stated before, that the issue with cards needing regular updating was unacceptable.

I worked in the printing industry for years and things do not go to press unless they are approved from the proof shown to the customer. Someone at DoW missed big time on this one. Clearly this was not the printers fault, but the person approving the proofs, who ever that person is at DoW.

How can a group that has been playing the game for approximately 8 years now, not recognize the backs were wrong?

I know people make mistakes, however in this instance; it affects the entirety of the game expansions from now until the foreseeable future. And any other things on the table to be part of the game will likely have to be deliberately printed incorrectly to match.

For me this is the issue (i.e. cards constantly having misprints) is what killed the game for me. I truly dislike having to reference a small book of changes to make sure you are playing the game correctly.

Too bad for everyone involved due to this mistake.
      
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Re:Unacceptable - No card replacements? Mon, 30 July 2007 23:21
Faithful wrote on Mon, 30 July 2007 21:36


For me this is the issue (i.e. cards constantly having misprints) is what killed the game for me. I truly dislike having to reference a small book of changes to make sure you are playing the game correctly.

Too bad for everyone involved due to this mistake.




Well, it's not that the cards, rulebook, etc...contain too many typos, BUT that the wording is not perfectly clear sometimes, imo.
Still, you are right about overseeing production and missing things such as this and, in case you didn't know, a couple of banners included in the Goblin Marauders army pack are the wrong type(typo? Smile )

True to their excellent customer care and support, DOW has already stated that they will provide their customers with new banners(for free, like they did with the battle dice), and are working on how to solve the issue about the misprinted cards.

Well, the way I see it, they are doing their best and, unlike some people have mentioned, it doesn't detract me from buying the expansions now, instead of waiting until these errors are fixed.

PS Please DOW get rid of that mole from FFG that is boycotting your games by messing with production Twisted Evil , or give him new specs, or have the lil' gobos to wake him up by playing some (really bad) drum music, or...well, you get the idea.

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Re:Unacceptable - No card replacements? Tue, 31 July 2007 00:26
I have offered my services to become DOW's Quality Control supervisor. I will gladly quit my job and move to California (or France!) to take up the position. I offer this sacrifice on behalf of my fellow gamers. I am still waiting for Eric to respond.......
      
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Re:Unacceptable - No card replacements? Tue, 31 July 2007 00:33
Shocked

I am surprised to see such virulent reactions from you guys.

it is minor details, nobody is dead, and the gameplay is not affected.

I know you are fans and you want to believe in a perfect game, even if this is esthetic, but blaming DoW like this... that is above my understanding.

As stated buy Eric, there is, so far, no financially acceptable solution to replace the cards. I prefere having a few misprinted cards than having Dow postpone futur games just to please 3 or 4 geeks*






*no offense, i consider myself as one.
      
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Re:Unacceptable - No card replacements? Tue, 31 July 2007 00:34
ColtsFan76 écrit le Mon, 30 July 2007 18:26

I have offered my services to become DOW's Quality Control supervisor. I will gladly quit my job and move to California (or France!) to take up the position. I offer this sacrifice on behalf of my fellow gamers. I am still waiting for Eric to respond.......



living in France? that is not such of a sacrifice Very Happy
      
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Re:Unacceptable - No card replacements? Tue, 31 July 2007 01:51
tom-le-termite schrieb am Tue, 31 July 2007 00:34

living in France? that is not such of a sacrifice Very Happy


Well, there sure are some people to sign your opinion, but ... Very Happy
Nah, just joking, but at least there are no good sausages (for barbecue, you know) in France. At least none I have ever encountered. And that makes one serious disadvantage Wink
      
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Re:Unacceptable - No card replacements? Tue, 31 July 2007 03:22
echtalion wrote on Mon, 30 July 2007 15:21

Faithful wrote on Mon, 30 July 2007 21:36


For me this is the issue (i.e. cards constantly having misprints) is what killed the game for me. I truly dislike having to reference a small book of changes to make sure you are playing the game correctly.

Too bad for everyone involved due to this mistake.




Well, it's not that the cards, rulebook, etc...contain too many typos, BUT that the wording is not perfectly clear sometimes, imo.
Still, you are right about overseeing production and missing things such as this and, in case you didn't know, a couple of banners included in the Goblin Marauders army pack are the wrong type(typo? Smile )

True to their excellent customer care and support, DOW has already stated that they will provide their customers with new banners(for free, like they did with the battle dice), and are working on how to solve the issue about the misprinted cards.

Well, the way I see it, they are doing their best and, unlike some people have mentioned, it doesn't detract me from buying the expansions now, instead of waiting until these errors are fixed.

PS Please DOW get rid of that mole from FFG that is boycotting your games by messing with production Twisted Evil , or give him new specs, or have the lil' gobos to wake him up by playing some (really bad) drum music, or...well, you get the idea.


<sarcasm mode on>

Actually I think (my opinion) is the BLOCK group that did this.

Who is BLOCK, you might ask ? Battlelore Rock group..aka BLOCK.
Members of the group are the Earth Elemental and the Goblin Stone Throwers. They seem to be upset they have yet to have an official adventure for either produced.

Like I said, just my opinion...of course, it could have been an oops like DoW said, but my money is on the BLOCK group <G>

[Although after I made this post, I see Adventure #30A has Goblin Sling shots - so obviously the BLOCK group got it's demand - and thus couldn't be possibly the cause of the error - since I had not seen those Slingers when I looked in the expansion]

<mode off>

[Updated on: Tue, 31 July 2007 05:22]

      
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Re:Unacceptable - No card replacements? Tue, 31 July 2007 08:31
Randwulf wrote on Mon, 30 July 2007 18:29

well.... seeing as I have not purchased them yet... guess I'll just wait till the next print run of them...

Confused




My thoughts exactly!
      
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Re:Unacceptable - No card replacements? Tue, 31 July 2007 10:53
I had posted this on the Battlelore Blog, but I'll post it here as well ( in case the person didn't see it in the comment section ) :

aDVISOR, would the normal MTG card protectors work, or does one need to get the longer YuGiOh card protectors for the DoW specialist cards ?

Thanks
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Re:Unacceptable - No card replacements? Tue, 31 July 2007 12:29
All Battlelore product is made in china and Chinesse manufacturing for games board usually mean a lot more error (the quality of their work and communication problem still lead to error) also the guys at DoW are not perfect. But this manufacturing error is a price that people at DoW are ready to pay for a low cost product and, unless you are ready to pay 5 to 10 dollars for each of your expansion that it something we have to be able to live with too.

I still thing DoW have done a wonderfull job with all of it.

I really don't care about the specialist card back, even if you draw them at random. Just close eye for 2 second when shuffling and pass the card, is it that hard?

Also, I assume theyre going to be, potentially, a re-run of the expansion in the future that should not have those problem, if you really can't handle the problem related to the card just be patient and delay your purchasse.
      
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Re:Unacceptable - No card replacements? Tue, 31 July 2007 13:43
Caboose wrote on Tue, 31 July 2007 03:53

I had posted this on the Battlelore Blog, but I'll post it here as well ( in case the person didn't see it in the comment section ) :

aDVISOR, would the normal MTG card protectors work, or does one need to get the longer YuGiOh card protectors for the DoW specialist cards ?

Thanks
Cab

All the cards in BattleLore are the same size. And they are all the standard 2.5" x 3.5" so MTG sleeves should work.
      
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Re:Unacceptable - No card replacements? Tue, 31 July 2007 16:06
I have found that the regular MtG size card sleeves are too short for any of the Battlelore cards. Someone mentioned that there are longer sleeves out there. I'll keep a look out for them.
      
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Re:Unacceptable - No card replacements? Tue, 31 July 2007 17:29
ColtsFan76 wrote on Mon, 30 July 2007 16:26

I have offered my services to become DOW's Quality Control supervisor. I will gladly quit my job and move to California (or France!) to take up the position. I offer this sacrifice on behalf of my fellow gamers. I am still waiting for Eric to respond.......


Well your biggest sacrifice would likely be pay. Games companies are not well known for excellent compensation. However, think of the bundle of cash you would save being an insider in the industry... Very Happy
      
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  Re:Unacceptable - No card replacements? Tue, 31 July 2007 17:49
About card sleeves: The best fit are the narrower, longer YuGiOh-sized ones. They are not perfect (they could be 2-3 mm longer), but they do a decent job.

The MTG-sized sleeves are too wide and too short.
      
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Re:Unacceptable - No card replacements? Tue, 31 July 2007 21:21
ColtsFan76 schrieb am Tue, 31 July 2007 13:43


All the cards in BattleLore are the same size. And they are all the standard 2.5" x 3.5" so MTG sleeves should work.


As others have already stated, there are no sleeves available for this card-size, they are roughly the same size as the cards from FantasyFlightGames.

There is a manufacturer in Korea (?) that produces the right sleeves, but so far no one had the guts to import those to Europe or America...

Would'nt it be cool if DOW made sleeves available that fit their cards?

On Topic:

For me, the Card-Back-Errors are a minor issue. If I would be using Houserules that required random choice, I would simply pick the cards with closed eyes.

OTOH I can understand people who want a perfect product for their money, as well.

Cheers,
Aljoscha


[Updated on: Tue, 31 July 2007 21:22]

      
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Re:Unacceptable - No card replacements? Wed, 01 August 2007 06:27
I don't think any of this is a major issue. If anything, it has created a player's market of sorts with a really cool error--like popular books published in their first printing with missing chapters. The value of these expansions (especially if unsealed and if BL continues its popularity), will skyrocket in a few years.

As for the minor inconvenience of having different card backs, I really don't care.

You know how auto insurance companies give their clients a free pass for not having any accidents in "X" number of years? Well, this is DoW's. Obviously, if mistakes like this become rife with the game, it would be cause to consider the quality of the games, but one (minor) mistake and people are up in arms? I say give them some time to sort it out. They have an excellent reputation for resolving player/production issues, and they will come up with some resolution for this, as well.

Give 'em a little time, guys. That's my two cents.

For now. Smile
      
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Re:Unacceptable - No card replacements? Wed, 01 August 2007 13:31
To clarify once again. The reason we are up in arms is not that DOW has made a mistake. Mistakes happen. I am one of DOW's biggest supporters and own most of their games.

The reason I am up in arms is they way they choose to word their blog. It is very clear in it that they have every intention of replacing the banners. However, the way things are worded, they only appear to be offering apologies for the card screw up.

Since this thread started, I have emailed Eric privately and he assured me that they are still working on a solution and that it wasn't worded as well as it could have been in. That is sufficient for me. he also told me of about a half dozen ways to fix it all of which they need to weigh and see what is most feasible.

However, it seems to me that they have printed enough expansions in this first run that they are not planning a second run at this time. So don't everyone go out and grab this now hoping it is going to be collectible. There is nothing to collect if all of us have the same thing.

If anything, it seems what I joked about above will be the most feasible solution. I said they should switch the CTA cards. Well, sounds like one option is to ditch the specialist card back all together. Everything will either be a Command card back, a Lore card back, or a Deployment card back. That's it. So thye may just replace the CTA specialist cards (10 of em) vs. the 11 or so in the 4 expansions.

As another note, this isn't some alarmist fear that one mistake and the whole sky is falling. But over the course of the last 8 or 9 months, it seems too many mistakes are being made. Quite a few people were upset by the lack of clarity of the rules (subjective, I know - I think they are fine); the BattleLore dice had to be replaced only afte a few games; Colosseum's dice were screwed up as well; many people aren't happy with the new glossy box, which apparently made its way into the Memoir 44 reprint. So what you have is a seies of (perceived) quality issues. And while what DOW is pumping out is still head and shoulders above the rest of the industry, it isn't up to the quality they established long ago. It appears they seem to have relaxed some of their self-imposed standards and we are on a downward slide on less quality.

So as you can hopefully see, it is more than just misprinted card backs.
      
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Re:Unacceptable - No card replacements? Wed, 01 August 2007 14:51
Coltfan:

Absolutely. I wasn't trying to be critical. I'm not a seasoned veteran of this site, this gaming company, or this particular game, even.

I respect the opinions of the long-time players and fans much more than my own opinion. So your comments are well-received.

I should also add that I'm not a collector, I'm a player. So I'm not encouraging anyone to buy (or not buy) for collecting reasons. I wouldn't even know what those reasons would be. Every game I own is worn and used, and I'm not into games for the resale / auction value of them, but because I enjoy playing them.

Finally, everything you said, needed to be said. I agree that if the quality errors/issues continue to crop up, it will drive new fans away and old fans from continuing purchases. At the same time, the fact that they are working on the problem does speak volumes as to DoW's commitment to quality.

I'm sure they wish they had caught the errors, as well.

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Re:Unacceptable - No card replacements? Tue, 07 August 2007 18:11
Two cents worth:

I'm on DoW's side in this one. The quality of BL is incredible...four (soon, six) great expansions in less than a year...freebies...tons of support...

Given all this, I don't understand how a clearly minor mistake that does not affect gameplay is "unacceptable" to an adult. Of course, ymmv.
      
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Re:Unacceptable - No card replacements? Tue, 07 August 2007 19:18
skiprydell wrote on Wed, 08 August 2007 01:41

Two cents worth:

I'm on DoW's side in this one. The quality of BL is incredible...four (soon, six) great expansions in less than a year...freebies...tons of support...

Given all this, I don't understand how a clearly minor mistake that does not affect gameplay is "unacceptable" to an adult. Of course, ymmv.


The extreme argument to this would then be, "why not just play with a pdf of the list of specialist cards for both players, and each player just tick off which cards they want to chose?" It still won't change game play...

Despite their good track record, DoW is a professional company, and we as customers are being charged for their product(s)... it's only fair that as customers we receive a professional product...which in this case, sadly we aren't... There's no excuse, DoW have made an error- no excuses, they should have been more careful.

Call me obsessive or whatever, but I like to own things that match and "are part of a set" and DO mind if the cards aren't the way they should be... even if game play isn't affected. What's also sad, is for those that do mind at least, DoW won't be offerring the option to replace the misprinted cards for them.... we should just live with a sub-standard product- what stops them from doing the same again in the future?, with the counter argument that "oh well, it won't change game play, so no need to do anything about it"?

Infact, the worse thing about all this in my opinion, is that DoW is denying responsibility for their error, but blaming the printing press guys!!..... and we're supposed to forgive them too???

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Re:Unacceptable - No card replacements? Tue, 07 August 2007 19:52
"Call me obsessive or whatever, but I like to own things that match "


Ok sdafilli... your an obsessive whatever... there...


We need to give them time folks... there is but a few of them and many of us... and they are stretched pretty thin...


Y'all got BL and how many expansions? in the past year? Us mostly M44 folks got... um.... squat, zip... nada... So if a few mistakes are made give them time to correct them.

better here than made in an M44 expansion... Twisted Evil


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Re:Unacceptable - No card replacements? Tue, 07 August 2007 19:56
I think DoW's customer service is way overrated.

I live in a place where it was impossible to get the Earth Elemental and I didn&acute;t have the fortune to acquire the Hill Giant at the time either.
I wrote DoW and asked them if it was possible at all to buy either creature from them directly. Some weeks later I got an answer saying they couldn&acute;t do anything about it.

With the Call to Arms expansion I would say it&acute;s pretty much necessary to have two creatures with the game and to me it's a blemish on a game company to say you have to resort to E-Bay for an essential part of a game that was just released.

I own a bunch of DoW products, 2 Ticket to Ride versions and all the Memoir stuff, besides the Battlelore base game.

The way DoW has handled the creature aspect of Battlelore has made sure I will never buy or recommend a DoW product again.

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Re:Unacceptable - No card replacements? Tue, 07 August 2007 20:43
ISOisNo1,

You're welcome to form your own opinion on DOW customer service, but I think you're blowing this creature thing way out of proportion. Creatures were designed to be rare in the game. With CtA, it will still be rare that both players pull a Deployment card with a creature. Even when you do, the player who doesn't get the spider can substitute a green unit of choice (I'd go with the Dwarven crossbows). The spider isn't a very powerful creature, so I wouldn't consider not getting it a disadvantage.

If you must play with two creatures, just substitute a miniature of your choice for the Hill Giant or Earth Elemental, and print out their abilities from the web. Any unused special tile can be substituted for their lair.

Also, DOW will release more creatures. As long as they are made available via both webstores and FLGS, you should be able to beef up your creature ranks.

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Re:Unacceptable - No card replacements? Tue, 07 August 2007 20:59
Yes, we all can have our own opinions. I think the creature thing isn't the fault of Customer Service. Many companies do this all the time and then run out of supplies - but this was fully advertised for a long time. And with our comments, they looked for other ways to get it to us.

And for skiprydell: I will say this once again. The issue was not about the mistake itself. Mistakes happen. The problem was the way it was worded in that they sounded like they made a mistake with the cards and oh well.

DOW has since clarified their position, apologized for not being clear, I understand that position now, I have apologized to Eric and we have moved on. If you would like to discuss this further, please PM me.
      
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Re:Unacceptable - No card replacements? Wed, 08 August 2007 16:36
ColtsFan76 wrote on Tue, 07 August 2007 11:59


And for skiprydell: I will say this once again. The issue was not about the mistake itself. Mistakes happen. The problem was the way it was worded in that they sounded like they made a mistake with the cards and oh well.

DOW has since clarified their position, apologized for not being clear, I understand that position now, I have apologized to Eric and we have moved on. If you would like to discuss this further, please PM me.


Coltsfan, I was not referencing your original comment as much as the rather vitriolic posts that followed on from that point.
      
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Re:Unacceptable - No card replacements? Wed, 08 August 2007 17:15
skiprydell wrote on Wed, 08 August 2007 09:36

Coltsfan, I was not referencing your original comment as much as the rather vitriolic posts that followed on from that point.

Ok. Good enough Smile
      
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Re:Unacceptable - No card replacements? Sun, 12 August 2007 23:57
It truly sucks for DOW to have to deal with these unfortunate mistakes. I just hope they will take the necessary measures so that these kinds of things do not happen again. However, I remain faithful in DOW's customer service, having dealt with them for a minor issue in the past. Their service is top notch, and I am certain that the misprinted card issue will be dealt with the same profesionnalism. I personally hope they will not dismiss the cool card back from the specialist cards; I think it's good that each type of card has its own card back.

I must admit that I can relate with sdafilli; I too like it when things match. For this reason, I hope they decide to somehow replace the misprinted cards. I don't even care if I have to pay for it. (But I'm hoping I won't have to)

Give 'em time, they'll figure something out Smile
      
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Re:Unacceptable - No card replacements? Wed, 22 August 2007 04:45
this card thingy is a big mess imo but i would by happy to pay for correct replacements Sad
      
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Re:Unacceptable - No card replacements? Wed, 22 August 2007 13:03
In the meantime you could use card protectors designed for u-gi-oh or whatever it's called, or Magic the Moneyprinting. I hope DoW produce some protectors for BL and M44 in due course.
      
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Re:Unacceptable - No card replacements? Wed, 22 August 2007 15:11
skiprydell wrote on Tue, 07 August 2007 17:11

Two cents worth:

I'm on DoW's side in this one. The quality of BL is incredible...four (soon, six) great expansions in less than a year...freebies...tons of support...

Given all this, I don't understand how a clearly minor mistake that does not affect gameplay is "unacceptable" to an adult. Of course, ymmv.


I really must be missing something, because a slight error on the printing on the back of some cards, that therefore doesn't affect gameplay at all would seem to me to be irrelevant???

I have not bought these expansions yet, but will not be in any way put off because of this issue.

If they offered to let me send in the duff cards and they would then send me a new set, honestly i could not be bothered. It just doesn't matter at all.

One of my favourite games is Mongoose's Babylon 5 A call to arms. Great TV series, and a great game. They frequently get major things wrong in their books/rules and hardly any of the miniatures you buy actually ship with all the right pieces in them, what pieces are delivered are usually badly misformed. We all complain about it, and basically make do because it is a great game.

Play Battlelore, or don't play it, based on whether you like the game, not the colour of the back of a card!!! I have never seen another game with the production qualities of DOW. If DOW games are all you play, try some other games i think you will be shocked at what some companies get away with selling you.

Andy


      
mvettemagred
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Re:Unacceptable - No card replacements? Wed, 22 August 2007 15:53
Captain,

I couldn't agree more. While my engineering-trained brain likes things neat and consistent, the card-back issue doesn't affect gameplay. Honestly, when I'm trying to decide which Specialist cards to take, I'm usually looking at the front of the cards, not the back. Rolling Eyes
      
yangtze
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Re:Unacceptable - No card replacements? Wed, 22 August 2007 16:10
Yes I agree too, but apparantly some people like to deal them out randomly. Seems like an odd thing to do, but hey, each to his/her own.
      
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