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It's a bird... it's a plane... it's... yes it's a plane... Tue, 04 September 2007 15:03
Memoir'44 Air Pack is in sight!

The web site section:
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The story behind:
Operation Margarita
      
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Re:It's a bird... it's a plane... it's... yes it's a plane... Tue, 04 September 2007 16:04
Hot diggity damn!!!!! um... wait a minute...

Missing button on the page??? Still has link to shopping cart page... But no planes on the store shelf???

So....

When do we get it? and how much?

and well done...

Very Happy


      
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Re:It's a bird... it's a plane... it's... yes it's a plane... Tue, 04 September 2007 16:10
no british exp then Crying or Very Sad okay im happy for you lot Neutral snif

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Re:It's a bird... it's a plane... it's... yes it's a plane... Tue, 04 September 2007 16:57
Roobarb wrote on Tue, 04 September 2007 16:10

no british exp then Crying or Very Sad okay im happy for you lot Neutral snif

Hey, there is a "spit" in the Air Pack Razz

Yann
      
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Re:It's a bird... it's a plane... it's... yes it's a plane... Tue, 04 September 2007 16:59
Yann wrote on Tue, 04 September 2007 15:57

Roobarb wrote on Tue, 04 September 2007 16:10

no british exp then Crying or Very Sad okay im happy for you lot Neutral snif

Hey, there is a "spit" in the Air Pack Razz

Yann


is that the token brit then Smile ah mate dont get me started just ignore me and maybe ill go away Twisted Evil anway well done DOW Smile

[Updated on: Tue, 04 September 2007 17:02]

      
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Re:It's a bird... it's a plane... it's... yes it's a plane... Tue, 04 September 2007 17:10
Well this is a good start. I'll have to see more info (especially $$) to get a good take on it. I hope it was split out of the carrying case for timing purposes only.

      
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Re:It's a bird... it's a plane... it's... yes it's a plane... Tue, 04 September 2007 17:58
JOY Very Happy
      
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Re:It's a bird... it's a plane... it's... yes it's a plane... Tue, 04 September 2007 18:20
Looks great and is very exciting. I'm interested in the release date and price of course. Smile

Can we post some of these images and information on other game websites like BoardGameGeek?
      
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Re:It's a bird... it's a plane... it's... yes it's a plane... Tue, 04 September 2007 19:24
Target release date is end of November worldwide. Price will be around $ 40 USD / 40 euros.
      
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Re:It's a bird... it's a plane... it's... yes it's a plane... Tue, 04 September 2007 19:24
I can't wait to get my hands on those planes!!
      
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Re:It's a bird... it's a plane... it's... yes it's a plane... Tue, 04 September 2007 20:49
Patience is a virtue, Malcolm Smile

(and one that I don't have, either...)

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Re:It's a bird... it's a plane... it's... yes it's a plane... Tue, 04 September 2007 23:39
If someone from DOW could answer this: Will we need two sets of the air pack for Overlord Scenarios? Just trying to budget those game dollars Cool
      
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Re:It's a bird... it's a plane... it's... yes it's a plane... Wed, 05 September 2007 01:15
It sounded like the air rules might not work for Overlord games. Someone from DOW said that it would become clear why they didn't include the Overlord maps in the new revised book that comes with the expansion.

But maybe I'm reading this wrong and the air rules work! I have to say, this game is getting cooler every time I turn around, even if the air rules don't work for Overlord games! Very Happy What great expansions and rules!

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Re:It's a bird... it's a plane... it's... yes it's a plane... Wed, 05 September 2007 12:42
uhh great let's hope for a web code also Very Happy Very Happy
      
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Re:It's a bird... it's a plane... it's... yes it's a plane... Wed, 05 September 2007 16:32
Just to be clear: there is no web code for this expansion (we never put a web code in any expansion, and just made an exception once, for the Pacific Theater, to help customers gain access to the M44 Scenario editor).
      
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Re:It's a bird... it's a plane... it's... yes it's a plane... Wed, 05 September 2007 22:24
eric wrote on Wed, 05 September 2007 10:32

Just to be clear: there is no web code for this expansion (we never put a web code in any expansion, and just made an exception once, for the Pacific Theater, to help customers gain access to the M44 Scenario editor).


Hmmm - forty dollars for this "expansion" and no web code. I cannot say as a loyal Memoir '44 fan (2 each of all Mem 44 products expect for the TP) that I am pleased about that. Sad
      
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Re:It's a bird... it's a plane... it's... yes it's a plane... Wed, 05 September 2007 23:43
tank commander wrote on Wed, 05 September 2007 15:24

eric wrote on Wed, 05 September 2007 10:32

Just to be clear: there is no web code for this expansion (we never put a web code in any expansion, and just made an exception once, for the Pacific Theater, to help customers gain access to the M44 Scenario editor).


Hmmm - forty dollars for this "expansion" and no web code. I cannot say as a loyal Memoir '44 fan (2 each of all Mem 44 products expect for the TP) that I am pleased about that. Sad


May I ask why? The webcards serve little purpose for diehard M44 loyalists. If we ever get the online version of the game, then maybe we should complain!
      
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Re:It's a bird... it's a plane... it's... yes it's a plane... Thu, 06 September 2007 00:42
ColtsFan76 wrote on Wed, 05 September 2007 17:43

tank commander wrote on Wed, 05 September 2007 15:24

eric wrote on Wed, 05 September 2007 10:32

Just to be clear: there is no web code for this expansion (we never put a web code in any expansion, and just made an exception once, for the Pacific Theater, to help customers gain access to the M44 Scenario editor).


Hmmm - forty dollars for this "expansion" and no web code. I cannot say as a loyal Memoir '44 fan (2 each of all Mem 44 products expect for the TP) that I am pleased about that. Sad


May I ask why? The webcards serve little purpose for diehard M44 loyalists. If we ever get the online version of the game, then maybe we should complain!


I know there is not that much difference right now. However, I am looking forward to the possibility of the online game.

I also know that some have a "reserve" of web time. I do not have such a luxury (only 3 months remain of my web time). Hence my concern of not getting any more for buying this new (and most expensive expansion to date).


      
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Re:It's a bird... it's a plane... it's... yes it's a plane... Thu, 06 September 2007 11:10
nothing... but it was better with code... Confused
since with the PT happened, I hoped... instead not Sad
.. no problem
      
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Re:It's a bird... it's a plane... it's... yes it's a plane... Sat, 08 September 2007 13:24
Saw flyer for Air Pack at my FLGS, but for some reason I had the impression that the price was less than $40?

Probably just wishful thinking.

Can anyone provide an estimate on the scale of the planes?
      
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Re:It's a bird... it's a plane... it's... yes it's a plane... Sat, 08 September 2007 16:08
1/200? Perhaps a bit smaller?
      
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Re:It's a bird... it's a plane... it's... yes it's a plane... Sat, 08 September 2007 22:12
Let me just say that I for one am happy to see DoW releasing an M44 product, and what appears to be a great addition to the system. I'll wait to see the rules for my final verdict, but painted minis are a plus. Looks like all that colorful inspiration from Brummbar has paid off.
      
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Re:It's a bird... it's a plane... it's... yes it's a plane... Mon, 10 September 2007 17:21
when can we expect the rules online?
Can't wait to see them Very Happy
      
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Re:It's a bird... it's a plane... it's... yes it's a plane... Wed, 12 September 2007 16:28
Taking to the Skies! is our newest blog entry, on blog.daysofwonder.com

enjoy!
      
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Re:It's a bird... it's a plane... it's... yes it's a plane... Wed, 12 September 2007 16:40
Interesting
      
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Re:It's a bird... it's a plane... it's... yes it's a plane... Thu, 13 September 2007 11:55
rules? when? Very Happy

so with 45 euro I will have the expansions and a new deck... Razz
the new deck is a goooood idea...
      
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Re:It's a bird... it's a plane... it's... yes it's a plane... Thu, 13 September 2007 12:38
angelo wrote on Thu, 13 September 2007 10:55

so with 45 euro I will have the expansions and a new deck... Razz
the new deck is a goooood idea...


I thought it was just two new cards (plus all the terrain reference cards) Confused
      
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Re:It's a bird... it's a plane... it's... yes it's a plane... Thu, 13 September 2007 12:55
Yes the Airpack has 2 new Command cards (Air Sortie) plus a comprehensive Summary card deck.

The replacement Command card deck is available separately.

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Re:It's a bird... it's a plane... it's... yes it's a plane... Thu, 13 September 2007 17:01
The replacement deck is 5 euros (or $5 for those of us in the States) and even though you could just toss the new "Air Sortie" cards in with your old deck, there is now the chance to get a new deck. The "Air Sortie" cards will be turned face up when you get it, so it wouldn't matter that your opponent knows you have it, but I do see a problem with having the 2 new cards in with your old deck...

Imagine you are playing along and both players see that there is a new card coming. When the new card (which everyone knows is the Air Sortie card) is two places away, one of the players can play a recon card and claim the Air Sortie, then draw a new card for their hand. Even though either side could do this (and it would depend on luck for who has a recon card), I plan to get the new deck so I don't have this happen.
      
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Re:It's a bird... it's a plane... it's... yes it's a plane... Thu, 13 September 2007 17:10
rasmussen81 wrote on Thu, 13 September 2007 11:01


Imagine you are playing along and both players see that there is a new card coming. When the new card (which everyone knows is the Air Sortie card) is two places away, one of the players can play a recon card and claim the Air Sortie, then draw a new card for their hand. Even though either side could do this (and it would depend on luck for who has a recon card), I plan to get the new deck so I don't have this happen.


That is a very good point and why I've also planned to get a new deck. Too bad DOW won't just give us a whole new deck... I'd pay the extra $5 (or $4.96 Very Happy ) for the expansion just to avoid paying postage for a deck (or two) of cards.
      
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Re:It's a bird... it's a plane... it's... yes it's a plane... Thu, 13 September 2007 17:29
CptJack wrote on Thu, 13 September 2007 08:10

Too bad DOW won't just give us a whole new deck... I'd pay the extra $5 (or $4.96 Very Happy ) for the expansion just to avoid paying postage for a deck (or two) of cards.


Good point CptJack but then you would have the people who would complain that DoW is making them pay an extra $5 to get a deck that they don't need. It's a fine line.

My deck is so old...it is actually starting to grow some kind of mold on it Crying or Very Sad ...might be time to retire it. A new deck with the Air Sortie cards will be a welcome addition in our house!
      
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Re:It's a bird... it's a plane... it's... yes it's a plane... Thu, 13 September 2007 17:33
I play so little face-to-face my deck still looks new!
      
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Re:It's a bird... it's a plane... it's... yes it's a plane... Thu, 13 September 2007 18:52
yangtze wrote on Thu, 13 September 2007 10:33

I play so little face-to-face my deck still looks new!

And my F2F time is split between two copies, so mine are pretty good as well.
      
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Re:It's a bird... it's a plane... it's... yes it's a plane... Thu, 13 September 2007 19:12
Huh, not sure what you mean folks. The whole reason we are releasing the 62 cards deck (60 card + the 2 Air Sortie) at the same time as the Air pack is so that you won't have to pay shipping twice (assuming you order both of these at once)...

so there is no double shipping fees. As for not including the complete deck in the Air pack itself, it's because not everyone will want it and because the airpack will be full enough as it is, as you will soon discover... Very Happy
      
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Re:It's a bird... it's a plane... it's... yes it's a plane... Thu, 13 September 2007 20:27
I kind of like having Eric, our guardian angle (informant), as part of the thread! We get actual answers so quickly!! Smile Good thinking with the whole combining shipping deal! Will that be true just for the fist few months or does that deal apply to any time we buy more than one item at once?
      
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Re:It's a bird... it's a plane... it's... yes it's a plane... Thu, 13 September 2007 21:03
eric wrote on Thu, 13 September 2007 13:12

Huh, not sure what you mean folks. The whole reason we are releasing the 62 cards deck (60 card + the 2 Air Sortie) at the same time as the Air pack is so that you won't have to pay shipping twice (assuming you order both of these at once)...

so there is no double shipping fees. As for not including the complete deck in the Air pack itself, it's because not everyone will want it and because the airpack will be full enough as it is, as you will soon discover... Very Happy


Obviously, not everyone purchases their products directly from DoW and I know that DoW does not object to this at all! Smile Some support local retailers, so that they remain in business, while others may purchase from online stores. By not packaging the full deck with the expansion, the only ones who would save postage would be those who purchase from DoW... unless I've completely misunderstood (a distinct possibility), and the new full decks will be available from local and online retailers, also.

Again, if only available through DoW, those who do not participate in this forum may be completely unaware that a new deck is available... unless, of course, DoW informs them within the expansion itself. (I would be a bit surprised if they hadn't thought of this.)

I understand that everything we wish for can't be granted, but I do appreciate DoW's open ears and open minds coupled with its responsiveness to our thoughts and questions (not to mention a well conceived game manufactured to high standards)...

...will you add the full deck now???? (just kidding Laughing Laughing But seriously, of the forums for games and game companies I've visited and/or participated in, this is the forum that has (by far) the most participation by the company... thank you! It influenced my decision to get involved in this game to begin with.)

      
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Re:It's a bird... it's a plane... it's... yes it's a plane... Fri, 14 September 2007 02:15
Selling spare parts (such as a replacement deck) through the channel is impractical at best to pull off, so I am afraid this will remain a DoW web site only item. I am quite confident that people who really need a spare deck will find us though.
      
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Re:It's a bird... it's a plane... it's... yes it's a plane... Fri, 14 September 2007 17:55
Hey Eric, since we have you here, how often will DoW be updating or adding to the blog about the Air Pack? Is it every week or every-other week? I know there are two things writen so far and they are both very informative and interesting...when's the next one due?

I don't think it's too much to pay $5.00 plus shipping for a new deck. Once you have the one to use with the "Air Sortie" cards they will wear out at the same rate. One question I just thought of though: Later on, with the possibility of a new deck include a deck with the Air Sortie cards in with it so we can replace the normal cards and the new air pack cards? (I'm talking about down the road!)
      
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Re:It's a bird... it's a plane... it's... yes it's a plane... Fri, 14 September 2007 22:08
eric wrote on Thu, 13 September 2007 13:12

Huh, not sure what you mean folks. The whole reason we are releasing the 62 cards deck (60 card + the 2 Air Sortie) at the same time as the Air pack is so that you won't have to pay shipping twice (assuming you order both of these at once)...


I think that is what he is suggesting here...
      
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Re:It's a bird... it's a plane... it's... yes it's a plane... Sat, 15 September 2007 00:45
The replacement deck already will include all the cards from your standard game AND the 2 Air Sortie cards, so we're covered there.

As to how frequently we'll post blog entries, we'll try to keep it to a once a week schedule for a while, but no promise: there's a few other things keeping us busy going into Christmas...
      
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