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isbert
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Bridges and line of sight Mon, 28 June 2004 15:21
I thought I saw this on here once before, but I couldn't find it when we were in the heat of battle last night.

Do bridges disrupt line of sight? We played that it did in the Pegasus scenario.

[As a side question, is there a search feature on these message boards?]

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Re:Bridges and line of sight Mon, 28 June 2004 15:30
It's in the FAQ. Bridges do block line of sight (this one is definitely missing in the rules).

To DoW:

Will there be an updated PDF-Version of the rules with the FAQs included?
      
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Re:Bridges and line of sight Mon, 28 June 2004 15:32
I believe that it was determined that bridges do block LOS. Remember though, that, if a unit is on the bridge, it can be targeted. only units actually obstructed by the bridge benefit from the blocked LOS.
      
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Re:Bridges and line of sight Mon, 28 June 2004 15:36
The Bridge question is covered in the rules. The rules about hexes and LOS take care of it. Read the section on LOS. Any obstructions block LOS. The confusion comes from the fact that in the River hex section, it says to count a hex with a bridge as a "normal" hex.
      
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Re:Bridges and line of sight Mon, 28 June 2004 15:40
wayner2d2 wrote on Mon, 28 June 2004 15:36

The Bridge question is covered in the rules. The rules about hexes and LOS take care of it. Read the section on LOS. Any obstructions block LOS. The confusion comes from the fact that in the River hex section, it says to count a hex with a bridge as a "normal" hex.


.. and that's exactly why it's not covered. Bunkers, hedgehogs, wire and sandbags are described in the rules (with their influence on LoS). Bridges are not. There is no "normal" hex - only different terrain, and in the case of bridges it's a bridge with a river underneath (definitely not "normal" terrain). So why not just write what it does?

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Re:Bridges and line of sight Mon, 28 June 2004 16:43
I was trying to resolve the issue from memory. The rules do refer to obstuctions blocking line of sight. It would have been clearer to the reader if it had been pointed out that a bridge is an obstruction. I hope that i did'nt come off as "rules preachy" because that was not the intent.
I guess that when a game is developed the designer assumes that certain aspects and concepts of the rules will fall into place with thorough reading of the rules. I have gamed a long time, and letme tell you, it is not always easy to put 2 and 2 together with some games(I am a former 40k addict Shocked )
      
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Re:Bridges and line of sight Mon, 28 June 2004 16:49
wayner2d2 wrote on Mon, 28 June 2004 16:43

I was trying to resolve the issue from memory. The rules do refer to obstuctions blocking line of sight. It would have been clearer to the reader if it had been pointed out that a bridge is an obstruction. I hope that i did'nt come off as "rules preachy" because that was not the intent.


But "rules preachy" is good... I like "rules prechy" Wink
I like it if rules are written in a matter that most (all?) questions can be answered by reading them attentively (<- is that word correct here??).


wayner2d2 wrote on Mon, 28 June 2004 16:43

I guess that when a game is developed the designer assumes that certain aspects and concepts of the rules will fall into place with thorough reading of the rules. I have gamed a long time, and letme tell you, it is not always easy to put 2 and 2 together with some games(I am a former 40k addict Shocked )


Hey - we all understand that those things can happen and we're just trying to help making the rules even better...

Have fun!
      
    
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