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Anyone interested in Linux support? Tue, 24 January 2006 23:40
Since the Ticket to Ride PC game is written mostly in Java, it is possible that Days of Wonder could make a Linux version available. However, this would involve some extra effort for them, so I'm guessing that they are unlikely to do it unless there is a fair amount of requests for it.

Does anyone else here desire a Linux version? If so, for what distribution would you want it? (I use FC4 x86_64, but FC4 i386 would work for me as well.)

I don't work for DoW, so I don't have any idea how practical this really is, but if we can show that there are some players that want it, perhaps DoW will give it serious consideration.

I have volunteered to assist DoW with packaging for Fedora, and possibly for other distributions, but I'm not sure whether they would desire such assistance.

I only speak English, but perhaps someone who is multilingual could post a similar message to the other forums.

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Re:Anyone interested in Linux support? Wed, 25 January 2006 20:34
I would love to see Linux support. I use SUSE 10.0. It runs on an AMD 64 computer. It certainly seems that the program could be made to work on a Linux box.

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Re:Anyone interested in Linux support? Mon, 30 January 2006 21:42
yup I am very interested,

and I would also test on debian maybe even assist with a package package. I didn't pack any java packages before.

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Re:Anyone interested in Linux support? Tue, 31 January 2006 21:10
I also would be interested.
      
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Re:Anyone interested in Linux support? Tue, 22 May 2007 20:58
Has anyone installed this on Linux yet? I'd love to know the process if it's possible.
      
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Re:Anyone interested in Linux support? Tue, 22 May 2007 22:36
FrozenHoHos wrote on Tue, 22 May 2007 20:58

Has anyone installed this on Linux yet? I'd love to know the process if it's possible.


You can't install the windows version directly under linux, since it needs some native libraries. If there is enough interest, we'll certainly try to package a linux version and offer it to download to Ticket to Ride the Computer Game, registered users.
      
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Re:Anyone interested in Linux support? Tue, 22 May 2007 23:52
Brice,
there are many other feature requests and suggestions waiting for implementation - some for more than a year. Just look at this "sticky" thread - "Proposals for ticket to ride wishlist"! Or corresponding threads at cometitive forums!

You wrote in this thread on Wed, 21 March 2007:
"Not that I don't want to do that... Hum, it's more a matter of finding the time to implement this feature..."

And now you are telling us you are ready to spent time on Linux support? This is definitely not a priority... Do you need a players vote on what is actually a priority? We can do that!

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Re:Anyone interested in Linux support? Wed, 23 May 2007 17:58
Dandy wrote on Tue, 22 May 2007 23:52

Brice,
there are many other feature requests and suggestions waiting for implementation - some for more than a year. Just look at this "sticky" thread - "Proposals for ticket to ride wishlist"! Or corresponding threads at cometitive forums!

You wrote in this thread on Wed, 21 March 2007:
"Not that I don't want to do that... Hum, it's more a matter of finding the time to implement this feature..."

And now you are telling us you are ready to spent time on Linux support? This is definitely not a priority... Do you need a players vote on what is actually a priority? We can do that!

Dandy

Don't quote me wrong, I said if there is enough interest I'll consider offering it as a download version.
      
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Re:Anyone interested in Linux support? Wed, 23 May 2007 21:49
Dandy schrieb am Tue, 22 May 2007 23:52


And now you are telling us you are ready to spent time on Linux support? This is definitely not a priority...


Why not?

      
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Re:Anyone interested in Linux support? Wed, 23 May 2007 22:41
sebbo wrote on Wed, 23 May 2007 21:49

Dandy schrieb am Tue, 22 May 2007 23:52


And now you are telling us you are ready to spent time on Linux support? This is definitely not a priority...


Why not?



The linux port is already done since it was programmed on Linux Smile

That's just that we don't distribute it and won't offer support on it.
      
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Re:Anyone interested in Linux support? Thu, 24 May 2007 11:30
Brice schrieb am Wed, 23 May 2007 22:41

sebbo wrote on Wed, 23 May 2007 21:49

Dandy schrieb am Tue, 22 May 2007 23:52


And now you are telling us you are ready to spent time on Linux support? This is definitely not a priority...


Why not?



The linux port is already done since it was programmed on Linux Smile

That's just that we don't distribute it and won't offer support on it.


Hi,

what about an "official" download with minimal support. Maybe a new section in the forum with mostly user support.

I volunteer.

Regards,

Rudi

PS: @Dandy: You're WRONG
PPS: Runs on debian etch very well (mostly) Cool So I don't see trouble for Ubuntu if beryl/compiz is disabled.
PPPS: Though I like fresh air I just cannot open Windows (don't even have it)

[Updated on: Thu, 24 May 2007 11:49]

      
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Re:Anyone interested in Linux support? Thu, 24 May 2007 19:32
rudi69 wrote on Thu, 24 May 2007 02:30

PS: @Dandy: You're WRONG



Rudi99 and sebbo,

I'm not saying Linux should not be supported. All I'm saying this is not a priority - since we have a huge list suggestions, imporvements and feature requests, many quite simple and easy to implement things are not addressed for more than a year. I would like see some progress there first.

This is my personal opinion - and maybe I'm wrong. But that can't be decided by any individual user, however strongly he hates Windows and likes Linux. Correct priorities can be set only by TTR community. I hope that shamogi will help us to have popular vote on relative importance of the service requests to TTR developers (see the corresponding thread in competitive forum). If it would be Linux support by popular vote - so be it, let's get Linux support first and postpone everything else.

My best regards,
Dandy
      
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Re:Anyone interested in Linux support? Fri, 25 May 2007 11:06
Hi again,

you don't even have the slightest idea just _how_ much I hate Windows, but that's not the point. The point is the benefit/work ratio. The Linux port is done (believe me, I know). It's more or less a packaging and support question.

Also Linux-support is only a client side problem. Nothing will break for other users. Most (if not all) of the requests are on the server side. I don't know about the programming time differences but on the testing side, the server is always more critical.

Besides that, I am not sure how representative such a questionaire can be (as long as it doesn't reflect my opinion). However, I am sure that by the time we can start discussing any results of such a questionaire we already could have the Linux program;-)

Have a nice WE,

Rudi

      
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Re:Anyone interested in Linux support? Fri, 25 May 2007 18:30
rudi69 wrote on Fri, 25 May 2007 02:06

Hi again,
you don't even have the slightest idea just _how_ much I hate Windows, but that's not the point


Hi Rudi,
try to be rational - hate is not rational, not productive and bad for your health Smile

Linux is good, Mac OS is good, and Windows is also good - everything depends on personal needs, preferences and experience. Let all of them be! If you like Linux more than any other OS - by all means, use it - and be happy. There is no need to hate other systems, it won't make Linux and your personal computing experience any better.

Brice mentioned in his reply that "Linux port is already done since it was programmed on Linux" - so there is no issue here. If it is alredy done, than certainly it can and should be made available for Linux users - and it won't be any distraction from other long avaited TTR improvements.

Dandy
      
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Re:Anyone interested in Linux support? Sun, 16 December 2007 20:13
So . . .
Is there any movement on a Linux version of TtR-PC being made available? I have the Win version, but after rebuilding my PC post motherboard death I rarely go into Windows.
      
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Re:Anyone interested in Linux support? Mon, 17 December 2007 14:42
LimeySponge wrote on Sun, 16 December 2007 20:13

So . . .
Is there any movement on a Linux version of TtR-PC being made available? I have the Win version, but after rebuilding my PC post motherboard death I rarely go into Windows.


Regarding the availability nothing new.
If there are plan (and I'm sure there will be some next year) to offer download for T2R PC instead of CD only, then I'm sure I'll be able to produce Linux installers.

The only thing is that it won't be officially supported, and as such might not work on all distributions and linux versions out there. But if you are a linux user, I'm pretty sure it's not that difficult to find the few libs that the linux version depends on.
      
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Re:Anyone interested in Linux support? Mon, 11 August 2008 18:23
Any news on this? I would really like to buy the game - but I will not be satisfied with mac/win versions. I never run Windows and I very rarely run mac. If a Linux version was available I would buy it right away!
      
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Re:Anyone interested in Linux support? Sat, 02 May 2009 16:08
I also would be interested in a linux version.

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Re:Anyone interested in Linux support? Sat, 02 May 2009 23:54
geoffc wrote on Sat, 02 May 2009 16:08

I also would be interested in a linux version.

Geoffrey

I have some plans to release an unsupported linux version.
I just have to take the time to finish the installation process.
      
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Re:Anyone interested in Linux support? Mon, 11 May 2009 18:04
Hi,

Why an installer?

For me a tar.gz with launch.sh file would be enough.
no need to embed the JRE like in the Windows version.

It seems so unreal the the game is developed under Linux and not released under Linux...

Using Java Web Start, could it be the same release for all platforms?





      
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Re:Anyone interested in Linux support? Tue, 12 May 2009 10:24
redish wrote on Tue, 12 May 2009 02:04

Hi,
Why an installer?

For me a tar.gz with launch.sh file would be enough.
no need to embed the JRE like in the Windows version.



I pretty much agree with this.

Geoffrey
      
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Re:Anyone interested in Linux support? Tue, 12 May 2009 12:21
I have installed the windows version on Linux using wine: everything seems to work except full screen mode, that is one of the major features in this version...

There are some dll involved, meaning native code used, so I don't think it is possible to use directly the windows version with a launch script.
      
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Re:Anyone interested in Linux support? Fri, 15 May 2009 11:30
Brice, any progress on the Linux version?
      
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Re:Anyone interested in Linux support? Fri, 29 May 2009 11:21
redish wrote on Fri, 15 May 2009 11:30

Brice, any progress on the Linux version?


In case you didn't notice, the linux version is available in your download center:

http://www.daysofwonder.com/download

Enjoy Smile
      
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Re:Anyone interested in Linux support? Fri, 29 May 2009 11:27
Brice wrote on Fri, 29 May 2009 11:21


In case you didn't notice, the linux version is available in your download center:

http://www.daysofwonder.com/download



I get this:
"Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /download/ on this server."
      
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Re:Anyone interested in Linux support? Mon, 01 June 2009 08:25
popstr wrote on Fri, 29 May 2009 11:27

Brice wrote on Fri, 29 May 2009 11:21


In case you didn't notice, the linux version is available in your download center:

http://www.daysofwonder.com/download



I get this:
"Forbidden

You don't have permission to access /download/ on this server."


Yes, that's unfortunate. Please try the following address:
http://www.daysofwonder.com/en/download/tickettoride/
      
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Re:Anyone interested in Linux support? Tue, 02 June 2009 21:58
Thanks Brice!

I have just tried it under Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty) and it has not worked at first: no OpenAL library.

The library was installed but not with the right filename, so I had to type:
$ cd /usr/lib
$ sudo ln -s libopenal.so.1 libopenal.so

And it worked!

Now I still have a problem with full screen mode:
2009-06-02 21:46:04,073 [main] DEBUG log  Chosen binding: com.daysofwonder.gamelib.b.p@d0af9b
2009-06-02 21:46:04,122 [main] DEBUG log  Current mode: -1 bits, 1920x1200, 50 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,122 [main] DEBUG log  Available Modes: 
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 1920x1200, 50 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 1920x1200, 51 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 1920x1080, 52 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 1680x1050, 53 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 1680x1050, 54 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 1600x1200, 55 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 1600x1024, 56 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 1440x900, 57 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 1400x1050, 58 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 1360x768, 59 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 1360x768, 60 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 1280x1024, 61 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 1280x960, 62 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 1152x864, 63 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 1024x768, 64 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 960x600, 65 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 960x540, 66 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 840x525, 67 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 840x525, 68 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 800x600, 69 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 800x600, 70 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 800x512, 71 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 720x450, 72 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 680x384, 73 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 680x384, 74 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 640x512, 75 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 640x480, 76 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,124 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 640x480, 77 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,124 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 576x432, 78 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,124 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 512x384, 79 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,124 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 400x300, 80 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,124 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 320x240, 81 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,125 [main] DEBUG log  Selected Matching Modes: 
2009-06-02 21:46:04,125 [main] DEBUG log  No display mode, running windowed...


Any idea?
      
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Re:Anyone interested in Linux support? Sat, 06 June 2009 19:40
redish wrote on Tue, 02 June 2009 21:58

Thanks Brice!

I have just tried it under Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty) and it has not worked at first: no OpenAL library.

The library was installed but not with the right filename, so I had to type:
$ cd /usr/lib
$ sudo ln -s libopenal.so.1 libopenal.so

And it worked!

Now I still have a problem with full screen mode:
2009-06-02 21:46:04,073 [main] DEBUG log  Chosen binding: com.daysofwonder.gamelib.b.p@d0af9b
2009-06-02 21:46:04,122 [main] DEBUG log  Current mode: -1 bits, 1920x1200, 50 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,122 [main] DEBUG log  Available Modes: 
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 1920x1200, 50 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 1920x1200, 51 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 1920x1080, 52 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 1680x1050, 53 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 1680x1050, 54 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 1600x1200, 55 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 1600x1024, 56 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 1440x900, 57 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 1400x1050, 58 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 1360x768, 59 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 1360x768, 60 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 1280x1024, 61 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 1280x960, 62 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 1152x864, 63 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 1024x768, 64 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 960x600, 65 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 960x540, 66 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 840x525, 67 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 840x525, 68 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 800x600, 69 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 800x600, 70 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 800x512, 71 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 720x450, 72 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 680x384, 73 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 680x384, 74 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 640x512, 75 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,123 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 640x480, 76 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,124 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 640x480, 77 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,124 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 576x432, 78 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,124 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 512x384, 79 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,124 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 400x300, 80 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,124 [main] DEBUG log  -1 bits, 320x240, 81 Hz
2009-06-02 21:46:04,125 [main] DEBUG log  Selected Matching Modes: 
2009-06-02 21:46:04,125 [main] DEBUG log  No display mode, running windowed...


Any idea?


The openal issue is strange, we specifically load libopenal.so.
I'll have a look to this issue.

That's perfectly normal, Java doesn't support exclusive fullscreen mode on Linux for the moment.

Ah, also make sure to use Sun Java and not the OpenJDK version which has some issues with some images (they become purple/blue).
      
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Re:Anyone interested in Linux support? Mon, 22 June 2009 14:41
Actually it is because it tried to load "libopenal.so" that I had a problem: Ubuntu 9.04 comes with "libopenal.so.1".
So I had to create a symbolic link to make "libopenal.so" available.

About the Full screen problem, it seems to be related to this bug: http://bugs.sun.com/view_bug.do?bug_id=6636469 , fixed in Open JDK 6 update 10 and Sun Java 7 (b28). I'm using Sun Java 6 update 13. I will try Java 7 if I can.



      
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Re:Anyone interested in Linux support? Sun, 28 June 2009 00:55
Brice schrieb am Sat, 06 June 2009 19:40

redish wrote on Tue, 02 June 2009 21:58


Any idea?


The openal issue is strange, we specifically load libopenal.so.
I'll have a look to this issue.




Hi all,

in debian (and probably ubuntu) libopenal.so (the link to libopenal.so.1) is in the package libopenal-dev.

So the correct answer is probably:
aptitude install libopenal-dev

Regards,

Rudi
      
    
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