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scdit46
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  Games of Second World War. Thu, 20 December 2007 14:46
What qualifications would give these games of the Second World War (from 1 to 10):

- Memoir 44
- Lock and Load Band of Heroes
- Tide of Iron
- Combat Commander
- Axis & Allies Revised Edition
- ASL
- Paths of Glory
- World in Flames

Thanks

[Updated on: Thu, 20 December 2007 14:54]

      
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Re:Games of Second World War. Thu, 20 December 2007 17:59
I do not have those (yet). I used to have (and regret departing with them) Ambush+Expansions (enjoyed a lot, even in replay), Patton's Best, B17 Queen of the Skies (I do not recommend this unless you do not mind going along for the ride), Tokyo Express (highly recommend), and Raid on St. Nazaire (liked very much). All of these are solo games but Tokyo Express could be played against an opponent and Ambush could be played with another player on the Allies side.

I have recently started getting back into miniature war games with Pirates of the Spanish main and a home made rules of the wild-west. Now I am enjoying M44.
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I often view RPG/Grognard rules like the Pirate's Code. They are more like guidelines.

      
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Re:Games of Second World War. Thu, 20 December 2007 19:29
Doc,
I seem to be following your posts. I have the complete Ambush series and expansions and I also have the complete Battle Hymn series and expansions. I think this is a great game series for solitaire play. It comes out differently every time. I remember the very first game of Ambush I played. I stepped onto a hex and activated a german soldier who fired one shot at my activating soldier and killed him dead, right on the spot. I was wondering what kind of game I was in for. I found it is a very interesting game though and would recommend it to anyone. I also have B-17 Queen of the Sky. The only thing I have with this game is there is an awful lot of die rolls. Some of the other games I have are Panzer Leader, Midway - two editions, Rolling Thunder, Bismarck - two editions, Mustang, Air Force, Air Superiority, and Air Strike, just to mention a few. I can't possibly play them all and now I am wondering what to do with some of them. I'm thinking about moving some of them.
Have a Merry Christmas, Doc, and God Bless You
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Re:Games of Second World War. Thu, 20 December 2007 20:30
trumpetman52 wrote on Thu, 20 December 2007 13:29


I have the complete Ambush series and expansions and I also have the complete Battle Hymn series and expansions. I think this is a great game series for solitaire play. It comes out differently every time. I remember the very first game of Ambush I played. I stepped onto a hex and activated a german soldier who fired one shot at my activating soldier and killed him dead, right on the spot. I was wondering what kind of game I was in for. I found it is a very interesting game though and would recommend it to anyone. I also have B-17 Queen of the Sky. The only thing I have with this game is there is an awful lot of die rolls. Some of the other games I have are Panzer Leader, Midway - two editions, Rolling Thunder, Bismarck - two editions, Mustang, Air Force, Air Superiority, and Air Strike, just to mention a few. I can't possibly play them all and now I am wondering what to do with some of them. I'm thinking about moving some of them.
Have a Merry Christmas, Doc, and God Bless You
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Ambush was my second war board game after I had purchased Firepower. For over a year I struggled with the solo rules for Firepower. Ambush, that was a very good game. I can not find it anymore but I used to keep a journal of my squads escapades. I turned in a copy to my high-school English teacher as one of my assignment long ago and she enjoyed it. Wow, that brings back fond memories Smile

Have a very merry Christmas to you to trumpetman52.
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"Greater love has no one than this, that he lay down his life for his friends." John 15:13 (Holy Bible)

I often view RPG/Grognard rules like the Pirate's Code. They are more like guidelines.

      
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  Re:Games of Second World War. Thu, 20 December 2007 22:41
Luftwaffe was my very first WWII game. After I bought M44, I bought an old copy of axis and allies from the net. I have played that one many times before. The problem with A & A is that it takes so long to play. I have played that game all day, and only played about six turns. Luftwaffe is slightly complicated too, and I have never won at that. I'm still not really sure if I'm doing the rules right. But M44 is an easy game that can be played in about an hour and a half depending on scenario. It is so easy, I taught my nieces (12 and 14) how to play.
I have to rate M44 as number 1!!! Thumbs Up
      
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Re:Games of Second World War. Fri, 21 December 2007 08:10
50th, FYI, there is an open source (meaning free) version of Axis and Allies, called TripleA. It is a very good piece of software, and you can play it with someone live over the Internet or play by email. The link to the web site is:

http://triplea.sourceforge.net

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Re:Games of Second World War. Fri, 21 December 2007 17:27
Thanks Oracle, I just downloaded it and will check it out today! I like tactical games like A&A and M44. I have vassal, but my first experience with that was bad. I didn't even get through a complete game. I've been pretty soured by online games. Either the delay or the dropouts are a big distraction. My favorite computer game is M.A.X. which can be played either turn based or real time. I like to play it in turn based mode. In max you build the factories that build the aircraft, land units, sea units, and the like.

I will give this clone a try, thanks. Laughing
      
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Re:Games of Second World War. Sat, 22 December 2007 22:11
In case it wasn't mentioned, Paths of Glory is a WW ONE game not a WW TWO game.

The only game I have played besides Memoir is Axis and Allies. A&A does a good job iof capturing the entire war on a astrategic level.

I looked at but dismissed getting both Tide of Iron and Combat Commander. Both seem to me to be more WWII era games and not specific battles like M44. I think the scenarios are more generic - though I could be wrong, in these two games. Both are probably good games in their own right but I see the dollar signs trailing off from them and I am already committed to DOW products for the long haul.

ASL looked way to expansive and complex for my taste but it seems to delve into the era. I think all you are missing is the smell of gunpower and blood - and pushing all those counters arouns - you may actually get the blood as well.

The rest I have never looked into. I am pretty content with Memoir 44 filling my WWII need with an occasional foray into A&A for the strategic level. If I ever get another WWII game, I will probably get a theater style CDG - a la Paths of Glory - but set in the right era. I think Europe Engulfed and Asia Engulfed are 2 titles that would be worht looking into.
      
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Re:Games of Second World War. Mon, 24 December 2007 19:12
scdit46 wrote on Thu, 20 December 2007 08:46

What qualifications would give these games of the Second World War (from 1 to 10):

- Memoir 44
- Lock and Load Band of Heroes
- Tide of Iron
- Combat Commander
- Axis & Allies Revised Edition
- ASL
- Paths of Glory
- World in Flames

Thanks




WOW, not an easy question to answer! You are across the board here, no pun intended. The complexity level and game mechanics of each are so different, that it really depends on the "style" that floats your boat. If you rate 1 Poor to 10 Greatest:

- Memoir '44...I rate a 10. Easy game play that captures the flavor of individual scenarios very nicely. Quick gameplay allows for many replays of specific scenarios, and allows for a quick game when a whole afternoon or evening just won't work out.
Well supported by the designer and his website.

- LNL:BoH...I rate a 8. The game mechanics are similar to ASL, and other Avalon Hill classics, but without the binder sized rule books. The game developer went out of his way (self-admittedly) to come out with a game that is much more accessable to the casual gamer, but not out of the realm of the grognard. The game design (counters, boards, etc) is flat out gorgeous. The "halo's" on the center dots have been said by many to be too annoying, and have been eliminated in the expansions. The game is infinitely playable, and a valued addition to my collection. Well supported by the designer and his website.

- Tide of Iron...I rate a 9. It's M44 on steroids. Gorgeous design and infinitely playable. It is similar to M44, but on a much more indepth level. Better game for Game Nights with the buds, as it is played in greater numbers of players than M44 (exception: M44 Overlord). The game boards are on thick card stock, and put it a cut above the rest (too many games utilize folded paper gameboards...I hate creases!). Takes A LONG time to set up, and the games are quite long as well. The infantry are a bit difficult to snap into the holders until you figure out they snap in at a certain angle, but the holders are ingenious in that you customize your units. Well supported by the designer and his website.

- Combat Commander...I rate an 8 currently as I don't have much play time invested, but I am quite impressed with the game mechanics. Gameboard is somewhat lacking in it's design and manufacture.

- A&A RE...I rate a 7. Fun game, but I think of it more beer and pretzels Guy's Game Night game. It shines at conventions where the huge customized boards and home rules elevate it to Grognard status.

- ASL...10, 10, 10, and bordering on 15!. What can I say...a Grognards wet dream! Can you say anal? If you want to experience EVERYTHING that is combat, this is it. Be prepared for a lifetime of study on this puppy. This is a hobby, not a game. The new starter kits have revised gameplay a tad to make it more accessible to folks, but it's still an amazing feat of game design. MultiMan Publishing has taken over where the old Avalon Hill left off...my state's very own pitching phenom from the Red Sox, Curt Schilling started MMP because he's an ASLer hat didn't want to see the dream die.

* The other two I do not own and cannot rate

On the level of Lock N' Load, may I also suggest the Avalanche Press "Panzer Grenadier" system....a sure 10!

      
    
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