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solinsf
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Strategy question Tue, 06 November 2007 22:15
I'm having a debate on strategy with a friend of mine. Here's the scenario.

Player A is leading the game with 10 pts
Player B is in second with 25 pts
Player C is in third, with around 55 pts
Player D is in fourth, with 80 pts

Player A is down to 2 cards -- most likely a high pair. Player B has 10 cards left. Player C has 5 garbage cards left in his hand -- 2 low pairs and a low single. Player D has 7 cards left. A phoenix is still out there somewhere, the highest single left.

Player C wins the round & is leading to Player A. The strategy question is: what do you do in this situation? Do you lead a pair, so as to throw the hand to Player A, stick Player B with 20 pts, & put player D at 87 points? Or do you lead a single, hoping that Player D has the Phoenix and can dump a few extra cards & possibly even win the hand?

This issue has caused a big debate between me and another player. I've tried to lay out the scenario here without tipping my hand about which side of the debate I'm on. But I'm curious to see what people say (assuming anyone reads this post in the first place).
      
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Re:Strategy question Tue, 06 November 2007 22:33
option 1 means you are likely to get at least third, and have a good shot at second, with first unlikely. Let's say the odds are (.05, .30, .55, .10) for first through fourth.

option 2 means you are slightly more likely to get first, much more likely to get fourth, and less likely to get second. Let's say the odds are (.15, .20, .40, .25).

Unless A, B and D are poor players, I would go for option 1.
      
solinsf
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Re:Strategy question Tue, 06 November 2007 22:51
I'm not naming names but let's assume they're 4 top players (or at least 3 top ones, plus me).
      
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Re:Strategy question Wed, 07 November 2007 01:07
i would tend to go for option 1 as well. getting player in 2nd within range of myself seems to be the best i can get out of this particular game. hoping for better cards next game to see if any chance comes along to go for first place, while at the same time giving better options to claim 2nd which is still above average (!).
      
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Re:Strategy question Thu, 08 November 2007 06:42
Despite how the ratings work, I see multiplayer games as having one winner and multiple losers. In other words, coming in 2nd place is, to me, no better than coming in 4th.

As such, I will always play the move that is more likely to give me first place, since if I don't win, I do not really care how I place among the losers.
      
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Re:Strategy question Mon, 19 November 2007 16:18
I would probably go for option 1 as well. Although it would depend on the players and how the game is going.

Might as well pull back one player at a time to my level.

So what would you do or maybe what did you do?

Martin
      
Kat999
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Re:Strategy question Thu, 27 December 2007 14:19
Hi all,

Sorry sol, it's not exactly an answer to your post Wink
Just reacting to Knave's post ; as I already told to all the players I play with, I can play for the 2nd place, even the 3rd place if necessary. There are two "schools", both are good of course. Mine is just better. Laughing
As we all know, any fool can win a game. The difference between a good player and a bad one can be judged on several games. And I think that playing the "best place" you can, dealing with the hand you get and the hands others have is part of the strategy. Being 2nd or 3rd with a hand like you gave in example Sol can be considered as a "success". It's all a matter of doing the best with what you get.
See you all,

      
    
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