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jamesmhebert
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Re:Regarding the figures count Wed, 31 October 2007 14:29
Thank you for posting this list, Roobarb! It really helped.

I counted my figures twice through and came up with only a few differences... and some observations.

HUMANS
archers - I have 32 (compared to your 36)

GOBLINOIDS
skirmishers & swordsman - I have 18 (compared to your 16. I live in the US and have read that US-distribution includes 2 extra Goblinoids, which would explain that difference)

The interesting item I learned was this: the Goblinoid skirmishers and the Goblinoid swordsman are the same miniature! I kept looking at your list and trying to figure out why I had 8 of the same figure and you had listed 4 each of two different figure names... then I looked in the manual and verified that they were one and the same mini. Just interesting trivia, I guess.

I also counted the number of banners (totalling up both the "spares" and the ones carried by banner bearers) which came to 73 total banners. This matches the number advertised for the game, "58 Banner Bearers and 15 Extra Banners" = 73. Since I was counting, I figured I'd work on all the plastic!

Finally, on the battleloremaster.com site there is an Excel spreadsheet you can download that shows the max number of human archer units needed for all adventures produced so far, and it shows that at most I only need 7 units (or 28 individual archers) for one of the Epic adventures. Although my archer count is lower than yours, I still have enough for the game, so it looks like I'm good.

Hope this may help others, too!
      
Roobarb
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Re:Regarding the figures count Wed, 31 October 2007 17:07
no worrys mate Proud i to have 18 goblinsbut i left them out of the list for the reason you layed out Wink

i just re checked my maths and you should have 32 archers so your okay Rolling Eyes Twisted Evil

[Updated on: Wed, 31 October 2007 17:14]

      
bwcMD
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Re:Regarding the figures count Sun, 02 December 2007 22:16
Likewise with the counts above, including the two extra goblins. One thing I've noticed, and I'm not sure if this is correct or not, but the only spare crossbow banner I have matches the one already attached to a banner bearer--namely, I have two French banners for the single dwarven crossbow unit, and no option for having the English recruit them. Not sure if others have had this, or just me.
      
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Re:Regarding the figures count Sun, 02 December 2007 22:52
this sounds like a mistake to me Frown
      
Mogrim
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Re:Regarding the figures count Fri, 07 December 2007 03:36
Hi there,

New player here. I am very impressed with the quality of the package. But I have the same issue as the guy above. I received an extra green crossbow standard for the French side, but have no pennant banner for an English equivalent unit. This seems to restrict army composition.

Am I eligible for a replacement?
      
ColtsFan76
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Re:Regarding the figures count Fri, 07 December 2007 04:28
That was the flag distribution in the US copies. Both of my sets had 2 Standard Green Crossbow banners and none for the Pennant side.

I think that DOW may have done this on purpose to leave the crossbows distinctly French and not something available to the English.

What was intersting to me was that my Call to Arms, though also supposedly "random" gave me the 2 Pennant Green Crossbow banners I needed. And though I haven't double checked all the banners, it seemed to me at first glance that all the "inequalities" between the pennant and standard banners in the base game where evened out in Call to Arms.

So if you want a "complete" set, then get Call to Arms. Otherwise, you got what was planned.
      
Mogrim
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Re:Regarding the figures count Fri, 07 December 2007 04:33
That is interesting. I have heard rumours and rumblings that CtoA was simply filling in the gaps left by an "incomplete" main game (custom deployment, specialist cards, etc). It seems your finding supports that claim.

Still, I can't complain. Even if some consider the main game to be incomplete, it still offers more than most other games of the same price.

Thanks for the quick reply.
      
ColtsFan76
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Re:Regarding the figures count Sat, 08 December 2007 00:37
Mogrim wrote on Thu, 06 December 2007 21:33

That is interesting. I have heard rumours and rumblings that CtoA was simply filling in the gaps left by an "incomplete" main game (custom deployment, specialist cards, etc). It seems your finding supports that claim.

Still, I can't complain. Even if some consider the main game to be incomplete, it still offers more than most other games of the same price.

Thanks for the quick reply.

I don't think it was an "Oops we missed that!" I think the base game was purposely designed that way. I just think they decided to give the incompletes because with the deployment decks, there was a chance for both sides to grab a crossbow.

As just the base game, the distribution is fine. With customization, it is lacking, but CtA is a large component of customization.
      
bwcMD
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Re:Regarding the figures count Thu, 13 December 2007 03:28
Just to be official, I had contacted Customer Service about this, and the reply back was essentially that there were not supposed to be any British flags for the Dwarven crossbows--so the official word is that the Dwarven crossbows are strictly French in the base game.
And sorry if this is a double post, my connection's been acting a bit screwy.
      
Snake3yes
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Re:Regarding the figures count Mon, 11 February 2008 12:09
Ive got the two extra goblins aswell but everything else seems to be there.

Whats really annoying is not being able to get hold of the elemental or hill giant, they really should realease that as a double pack. Lets be honest it would be an instant sell out as most people want two of each and virtually everyone needs at least one!
      
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Re:Regarding the figures count Mon, 11 February 2008 19:56
Snake3yes wrote on Mon, 11 February 2008 05:09

Ive got the two extra goblins aswell but everything else seems to be there.

Whats really annoying is not being able to get hold of the elemental or hill giant, they really should realease that as a double pack. Lets be honest it would be an instant sell out as most people want two of each and virtually everyone needs at least one!

The 2 extra goblins seem to be standard in the US editions of the game. Both of mine had 2 each so I have enough for a complete unit!

I can't check since it is recorded that I have received my Elemental - but is the Elemental in fact out of supplies?

I would imagine that they EE and HG will see the light of day in the future. Sir Bedeviere was released by other means after its debut for Shadows Over Camelot. I can see it as being added in a future expansion or part of a larger creature pack.

DOW already has the molds to make it so it should be a wise decision to release them again somehow.
      
bwcMD
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Re:Regarding the figures count Sat, 01 March 2008 01:39
But I thought they had said that once they ran out of copies of the new monsters, they weren't planning on re-releasing them?

Then again, it sounds like they never really anticipated how completist a lot of people would be, trying to get everything that is out there, so they may change their minds.
      
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Re:Regarding the figures count Sat, 01 March 2008 10:31
my problem is not that I am completist, but that I would like to play some of the incredible number of scenarios with Hill Giants etc. in them.
      
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Re:Regarding the figures count Sat, 01 March 2008 11:42
About french dwarf crossbows I found in the back of the players guide that the pennants get two extra units of green archers! Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked
      
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Re:Regarding the figures count Sun, 02 March 2008 14:25
Magic Man wrote on Sat, 01 March 2008 03:31

my problem is not that I am completist, but that I would like to play some of the incredible number of scenarios with Hill Giants etc. in them.

Either you are being sarcastic or referring to custom scenarios. Officially, I think we only have1, maybe 2, Hill Giant scenarios and none for the Earth Elemental.
      
Magic Man
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Re:Regarding the figures count Sun, 02 March 2008 15:22
I am referring to the unofficial scenarios. Basically, if you play a lot, you probably only want to play each scenario two or four times. It isn't long before you want to buy loads of extra stuff to suit the new scenarios.

By the way, I overcame my problem with owning only 1 starter set by photocopying a few extra forest tiles and sticking them onto thick cardboard. I hope I didn't break any copyright rules by doing that - but it seriously increased the number of scenarios I could play. Unofficial ones, I mean.
      
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