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Stephan1972

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Fantasy Nations Cup	Thu, 11 September 2008 12:08

FANTASY NATIONS CUP You think you know the game... Who's the best? Who is under-rated or over-rated ? Who this year's rising stars will be? Well put your money where your mouth is.... and win yourself a 6-month webcard courtesy of Dea Competition now open to all NC contestants YOUR TEAM you have 22,000 ELO to spend on players (see below) you buy a team of 6 players from across the different teams one (and only one) of your players has to be a real life team captain do not include players from your own team in your initial selection (except when you choose a captain). SCORING All players (including captain): Win match: +2 points Beat player from higher ranked team: +1 bonus point Win match 3-0: +1 bonus point Captains only: Captain loses own match: -1 point Captain's team wins contest: +2 points TRANSFERS You can transfer 2 players between each of the rounds to replace players that are knocked out. You must make sure your team stays within 22,000 ELO up to QF, within 22,250 for SF and final. 2 transfers between RR and last 16 (22,000 ELO) 2 between last 16 and QF (22,000 ELO) 2 between QF and SF (22,250 ELO) 2 between SF and F (22,250 ELO) Make sure that following these transfers your team still has one (and only one) team captain. WHAT NEXT? The player list has been posted below. Please select your team and make sure one of your players is a team captain. Entries by pm to me or on this thread by Saturday 1.00pm CEST please. Feel free to amend team BEFORE this deadline. Entries should give player names and ELOs, team ELO and say which player is captain. OTHER POINTS I will keep track of scores, teams and update a league table. Only include players with a valid score (i.e. not Peter) I will accept late entries into the game, but players will not score points for matches already played (beware: I do not want to be a detective, so I will err on the side of caution and discount any games played on the day of entry unless I am sure). Scoring note: teams as ranked from 1-24 in erps's post below will hold for the whole tournament (RR and KO). Same goes for transfers. Transfer window stays open until the end of the round (i.e first transfers can be made until official end of round of 16); but players will not score you points for matches already played (or begun). These rules are provisional until midnight tonight in case I receive more suggestions and corrections. Finally, have fun! but keep the banter and trashtalking within reason. [Updated on: Sat, 13 September 2008 09:39] [Report message to a moderator]

erps

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Re:Fantasy Nations Cup	Thu, 11 September 2008 12:32

Ranking Nations Cup 2008 Ranking based on 2 player and US map rankings (GMT): Sun Sep 7 23:00:06 2008 ------------------------------------ 1. Red TGV (France I 2008 registered) -- {davidb9 - Mercurey}: 3866 -- {Deveric-Vosne Romanée}: 3846 -- {Elric - Sancerre}: 3810 -- {Fandan - Haut-Médoc ~ Wanadoo}: 3806 -- {toutoune - Morgon}: 3779 -- {kotay - gewürztraminer ~ Wanadoo}: 3747 -- {Neozen - Cairanne ~ Wanadoo}: 3623 Average Ranking: 3782 -- Best 6 Points: 22854 -- Best 6 Average: 3809 -- Number of players: 7 ------------------------------------ 2. Unity Express Germany -UEG- (Germany V 2008 registered) -- {Volleytom}: 3903 -- {UEG-schnupferl}: 3853 -- {UEG-Schwen}: 3790 -- {UEG-horo}: 3755 -- {womble}: 3755 -- {UEG-chrismmm}: 3747 -- {rudi69}: 3691 -- {thadd}: 3518 Average Ranking: 3751 -- Best 6 Points: 22803 -- Best 6 Average: 3800 -- Number of players: 8 ------------------------------------ 3. German Train Smashers -GTS- (Germany I 2008 registered) -- {GTS Mudda}: 3810 -- {The Train}: 3739 -- {GTS An-Team}: 3733 -- {GTS Ronaldo}: 3732 -- {GTS Goscha}: 3693 -- {Tofra}: 3689 -- {GTS Nanni}: 3619 -- {GTS Colo}: 3611 -- {GTS maia}: 3611 Average Ranking: 3693 -- Best 6 Points: 22396 -- Best 6 Average: 3732 -- Number of players: 9 ------------------------------------ 4. Our Laughing Express -OLE- (Germany II 2008 registered) -- {OLE deep_blue}: 3802 -- {OLE sebbo}: 3773 -- {OLE U 31}: 3748 -- {OLE Masimo}: 3738 -- {OLE ww}: 3722 -- {OLE Robomat}: 3591 -- {OLE Mason}: 3578 -- {Nayeli}: 3577 -- {OLE Bats_}: 3474 Average Ranking: 3667 -- Best 6 Points: 22374 -- Best 6 Average: 3729 -- Number of players: 9 ------------------------------------ 5. Austrian Troublemakers -AT- (Austria I 2008 registered) -- {AT_Angel6}: 3855 -- {AT_street}: 3753 -- {AT_Saurus}: 3743 -- {AT_Wernerus}: 3681 -- {AT_tewe}: 3663 -- {AT_dea1}: 3649 -- {AT_Lucullupus}: 3475 Average Ranking: 3688 -- Best 6 Points: 22344 -- Best 6 Average: 3724 -- Number of players: 7 ------------------------------------ 6. theTeam -TT- (USA I 2008 registered) -- {theKid}: 3810 -- {theTprail}: 3805 -- {theScorps}: 3777 -- {theZeno}: 3701 -- {theVballman20}: 3641 -- {theWildfire}: 3553 -- {theDizz}: 3542 -- {theTyrana}: 3302 Average Ranking: 3641 -- Best 6 Points: 22287 -- Best 6 Average: 3714 -- Number of players: 8 ------------------------------------ 7. Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious Oranje Superstars -SOS- (Netherland I 2008 registered) -- {SOS Patterson}: 3813 -- {SOS Mr Bean}: 3745 -- {SOS youki}: 3718 -- {SOS Truckerteller}: 3679 -- {SOS Annabel}: 3658 -- {SOS Sjoerd de Slome}: 3600 -- {Peter de Zeeuw}: 0 Average Ranking: 3173 -- Best 6 Points: 22213 -- Best 6 Average: 3702 -- Number of players: 7 ------------------------------------ 8. Catalunya -CAT- (Spain I 2008 registered) -- {CAT-pegaso}: 3806 -- {CAT-daedin}: 3799 -- {CAT-PapiXulu}: 3746 -- {CAT-suburu}: 3659 -- {CAT-aralai}: 3582 -- {CAT-hojita}: 3581 -- {CAT-Tablilla}: 3561 -- {CAT-juanfpdm}: 3545 Average Ranking: 3659 -- Best 6 Points: 22173 -- Best 6 Average: 3695 -- Number of players: 8 ------------------------------------ 9. Team ReBuilt -TRB- (Germany III 2008 registered) -- {TRB erps}: 3864 -- {TRB Spock}: 3731 -- {TRB Tenniskasi}: 3687 -- {TRB-SchwyzerToni}: 3638 -- {TRB Mnemosyme}: 3629 -- {TRB Sookie}: 3580 -- {TRB Ramses}: 3575 -- {TRB ThoMue1982}: 3559 -- {TRB Rocket}: 3434 Average Ranking: 3633 -- Best 6 Points: 22129 -- Best 6 Average: 3688 -- Number of players: 9 ------------------------------------ 10. White TGV (France II 2008 registered) -- {Sirius}: 3894 -- {TEE - Citeaux}: 3681 -- {foudecoasters - Cerdon}: 3622 -- {-EPO- Moulin à Vent}: 3609 -- {tiploup - Jasnières}: 3587 -- {ilété1fois - Jurançon}: 3578 -- {RFAD - Saint-Emilion}: 3524 -- {nicole - vin de moselle ~ Wanadoo}: 3505 -- {léachris - Champagne}: 3422 Average Ranking: 3602 -- Best 6 Points: 21971 -- Best 6 Average: 3661 -- Number of players: 9 ------------------------------------ 11. The Incredible Champion hunters -TIC- (Germany IV 2008 registered) -- {TIC - wasdenn}: 3730 -- {TIC - Heizer_65}: 3704 -- {TIC - Hecki}: 3684 -- {TIC - El Sid}: 3642 -- {TIC - Pitze}: 3588 -- {TIC - MaxiJazz}: 3584 -- {TIC - U 32}: 3532 -- {TIC-Uhrfriese}: 3523 Average Ranking: 3623 -- Best 6 Points: 21932 -- Best 6 Average: 3655 -- Number of players: 8 ------------------------------------ 12. Transnational Rocks U Everytime -TRUE- (Transnational I 2008 registered) -- {TRUE MiguelMarques}: 3750 -- {TRUE Denmark}: 3687 -- {TRUE Magic Hansen}: 3669 -- {TRUE Rui}: 3656 -- {TRUE Olle Boll}: 3579 -- {TNTic}: 3501 -- {TRUE Loan}: 3425 -- {TRUE Mary Mary}: 3247 Average Ranking: 3564 -- Best 6 Points: 21842 -- Best 6 Average: 3640 -- Number of players: 8 ------------------------------------ 13. Weapons of Mass Destruction -WMD- (USA II 2008 registered) -- {psteinx}: 3741 -- {WMD Black Widow}: 3714 -- {WMD Drake WMD}: 3665 -- {WMD Monstar}: 3516 -- {WMD Baron}: 3512 -- {WMD onyx puffin}: 3474 -- {WMD Baroness}: 3223 Average Ranking: 3549 -- Best 6 Points: 21622 -- Best 6 Average: 3603 -- Number of players: 7 ------------------------------------ 14. Rosé TGV (France III 2008 registered) -- {Baraka - Cidre}: 3655 -- {DiLoL - AngeluS}: 3652 -- {Floutch - le Jaja de Jau}: 3611 -- {Drannoc - Vacqueyras}: 3570 -- {HALIK - Pratavone}: 3492 -- {RV54 - Cassis}: 3469 -- {JFGUIGUI - GRAVES}: 3457 -- {Audrey - Muscat}: 3438 Average Ranking: 3543 -- Best 6 Points: 21449 -- Best 6 Average: 3574 -- Number of players: 8 ------------------------------------ 15. Canadian Crazy Canucks -CAN- (Canada I 2008 registered) -- {kolmo CAN}: 3722 -- {matsch CAN}: 3660 -- {Hawaienne CAN}: 3573 -- {Tink CAN}: 3496 -- {express CAN}: 3492 -- {Bigslug CAN}: 3487 -- {John CAN}: 3359 Average Ranking: 3541 -- Best 6 Points: 21430 -- Best 6 Average: 3571 -- Number of players: 7 ------------------------------------ 16. Black Beers Belgian -BBB- (Belgium I 2008 registered) -- {BBB-Geoff-Blanco}: 3655 -- {BBB-Pepetever-Duvel}: 3650 -- {davedavis liégoise}: 3591 -- {BBB-Koel Player}: 3519 -- {BBB-SuperChi-May}: 3508 -- {BBB-Popol-ValDieu}: 3479 -- {BBB-freddoche-Orval}: 3416 Average Ranking: 3545 -- Best 6 Points: 21402 -- Best 6 Average: 3567 -- Number of players: 7 ------------------------------------ 17. Transalpin -TA- (Austria II 2008 registered) -- {TA_Pammes}: 3741 -- {TA_sauvignon57}: 3635 -- {TA_süszifusz}: 3625 -- {TA-Karin1961}: 3517 -- {TA_itchy}: 3492 -- {steve111}: 3315 Average Ranking: 3554 -- Best 6 Points: 21325 -- Best 6 Average: 3554 -- Number of players: 6 ------------------------------------ 18. ANOTHER GERMAN TEAM -AGT- (Germany VI 2008 registered) -- {AGT-Hogwarts}: 3684 -- {AGT-Urgestein}: 3580 -- {AGT-xsandrax}: 3554 -- {AGT-xbomanx}: 3486 -- {AGT-DerNeusser}: 3481 -- {AGT-Technikerin}: 3413 -- {AGT-Toffer14}: 3390 -- {lisa171}: 3385 -- {AGT-pützi}: 3363 Average Ranking: 3481 -- Best 6 Points: 21198 -- Best 6 Average: 3533 -- Number of players: 9 ------------------------------------ 19. Champagne TGV (France IV 2008 registered) -- {ti'gévé - Collioure}: 3623 -- {pipodibo2 - gros plant}: 3575 -- {nico06 - Château Yquem}: 3512 -- {la douce - Chouchenn}: 3506 -- {Sysyphus - Madiran}: 3477 -- {pipodibo - Coteaux du Layon}: 3295 -- {xennos - Savagnin}: 3111 -- {Bebs3939 - Meursault}: 2998 Average Ranking: 3387 -- Best 6 Points: 20988 -- Best 6 Average: 3498 -- Number of players: 8 ------------------------------------ 20. Team Burger King -TBK- (Transnational II 2008 registered) -- {BK-Neven Subotic}: 3757 -- {BK-aceJumpMan23}: 3556 -- {BK -- solinsf}: 3419 -- {BK-Yellow}: 3387 -- {BK-DieSuperlok}: 3370 -- {Hauptbahnhof}: 3271 -- {RealtorWill}: 3248 Average Ranking: 3429 -- Best 6 Points: 20760 -- Best 6 Average: 3460 -- Number of players: 7 ------------------------------------ 21. Switzerland (Switzerland I 2008 registered) -- {CH-bassie}: 3690 -- {CH-Jac_}: 3576 -- {CH-Leleline_M}: 3569 -- {CH-Rick Rogers}: 3366 -- {ch-swissli}: 3281 -- {CH-tchols}: 3251 -- {CH-tis11}: 3064 -- {CH-uschoen}: 0 Average Ranking: 2974 -- Best 6 Points: 20733 -- Best 6 Average: 3455 -- Number of players: 8 ------------------------------------ 22. Team GB -GB- (GB I 2008 registered) -- {GB-Stephan1972}: 3678 -- {GB-stemayf}: 3570 -- {GB ironhorse1}: 3485 -- {GB-angil}: 3421 -- {GB-Robin Hood}: 3396 -- {GB-nellytheelephant}: 3174 Average Ranking: 3454 -- Best 6 Points: 20724 -- Best 6 Average: 3454 -- Number of players: 6 ------------------------------------ 23. Team Finland -TF- (Finland I 2008 registered) -- {FIN-Zimo}: 3856 -- {FIN-Juuco}: 3568 -- {FIN-sisu}: 3497 -- {FIN-tumpp1}: 3408 -- {FIN-Snowstar}: 3210 -- {FIN-Valkama}: 3181 -- {FIN-Evelyn3}: 3146 Average Ranking: 3409 -- Best 6 Points: 20720 -- Best 6 Average: 3453 -- Number of players: 7 ------------------------------------ 24. Italia -ITA- (Italia I 2008 registered) -- {ITA_angelo}: 3564 -- {ITA_barbarnaud}: 3357 -- {ITA_Qorlas}: 3246 -- {ITA_Federica}: 3208 -- {ITA_oibaf}: 3199 -- {ITA_Giuseppe}: 3105 -- {iseltwald_I}: 3060 Average Ranking: 3248 -- Best 6 Points: 19679 -- Best 6 Average: 3279 -- Number of players: 7 [Updated on: Thu, 11 September 2008 18:45] [Report message to a moderator]

Stephan1972

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Re:Fantasy Nations Cup	Thu, 11 September 2008 13:01

Thanks for your help erps! Yes, your suggestion of one player per team (or mine of having an auction) are lots of fun, but as you say may not leave enough players to go round, so will stick with this for now. The reason for the +1 for selection was to give an incentive to pick from lower ELO rated players too, but I see your point about how some it might influence real life. Very important: a match = the whole best of 5/7 not a game within that match!! Captains are important, and I think it is important to balance the potential gains with some potential loss, hence the negative score; plus a bit of extra pressure for us captains is no bad thing eh? but, I agree too much emphasis on captain's games, so I have amended to -1 point not -3. Note: by picking a captain you are also effectively picking a team! Any more comments or suggestions? Especially about the scoring.. Also, is the 22,000 ELO too generous? [Updated on: Thu, 11 September 2008 13:06] [Report message to a moderator]

erps

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Re:Fantasy Nations Cup	Thu, 11 September 2008 13:13

Hi 22000 is okay, but make something like that: For every 1000 ELO below you get per round +1 point. So if you only choose up to 21000 ELO -> 5 points in RR. Maybe you have to raise then the other points a bit. The games of the players should count. At the moment only a win against a higher ranked player gives +1, so why choosing high ranked players? If their team win, they get the +2, as i understand now. Still fine tuning needed. bye, erps [Report message to a moderator]

dea1

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Re:Fantasy Nations Cup

Thu, 11 September 2008 13:30

Very nice idea, Stephan, looks interesting

I guess the winner of last year's NC-pool should sponsor the prize (unless of course DOW was planning to donate one Wink

) so I go with tradition and offer a 6 months webcard (hoping of course that I win it myself).

Some questions to check if I get everything right (I think all answers are YES - correct?)
*) You can buy yourself and/or members of your own team
*) You can buy more than one member of the same team
*) You cannot transfer during the RR
*) At the end of RR and after each KO round you can transfer a max of 2 players - so if eg 4 of your players are out after RR you can transfer 2 of them and the other 2 just cannot score

TRB erps schrieb am Thu, 11 September 2008 12:32

I would not give -3 for a captains loss. They are normal players, no superhumans.

Hear, hear ... erps and the moment of modesty Laughing

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toutoune - Morgon

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Re:Fantasy Nations Cup	Thu, 11 September 2008 14:13

great idea Stephan ! one possible issue: if your players are substitute, i suppose you don't score anything? [Report message to a moderator]

Stephan1972

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Re:Fantasy Nations Cup	Thu, 11 September 2008 17:02

Wow dea - that's super generous!! (I have also sent a pm to DoW to see if they can come up with the goods ) the answer to all questions is yes, also Toutone's. I will try to finalise the rules tonight or tomorrow, but please keep sending me or posting comments and suggestions. [Updated on: Thu, 11 September 2008 17:20] [Report message to a moderator]

BTB-pegaso

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Re:Fantasy Nations Cup	Thu, 11 September 2008 18:21

Great idea Stephen! For sure I will take part. I want my webcard back dea I would prefer not no involve real life captain, for me will be more funny that every player in the fantasy nations cup should choose one captain for his/her team, that may be or not a real life captain. [Report message to a moderator]

Zeno

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Re:Fantasy Nations Cup	Thu, 11 September 2008 18:44

On current scores, 22,000 points would let you buy White TGV, the 10th ranked team. That puts the cap just above the middle teams, so 22,000 sounds fine for the round robin. But what happens if we have a Red-UEG final ? Adding the lowest six players from those teams currently nets you 22,129 points, putting you over the limit. I would suggest letting the limit rise based on the quality of the teams remaining. Not a lot, but enough so that you have some room to maneuver. I'm also somewhat concerned about insider knowledge. What if you know that someone from your team will be unavailable for the RR? In the US version of these fantasy teams, the leagues typically put out injury lists, so you know which players are out, doubtful and probable. Barring such a list, I suggest that you are allowed at most one member from your own team. Btw, this also gives you cover for why you didn't have enough confidence to pick only players from your own team. edit: Since Peter is listed as having 0 combined ELO's I think we should decree that Peter is no-one's fantasy. [Updated on: Thu, 11 September 2008 20:26] [Report message to a moderator]

Zeno

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Re:Fantasy Nations Cup	Thu, 11 September 2008 20:02

One more thing! The picks should not be posted here! Otherwise some people will wait and check out the first picks that come in, giving them extra information. To make this as fair as possible, the picks should be pm'ed, (so long as stephan has some room in his box). [Report message to a moderator]

foudecoasters - Cerdon

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Re:Fantasy Nations Cup

Thu, 11 September 2008 20:15

theZeno écrit le Thu, 11 September 2008 18:44

On current scores, 22,000 points would let you buy White TGV, the 10th ranked team.

100.000 dollars per player i'm OK! Cool

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Zeno

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Re:Fantasy Nations Cup

Thu, 11 September 2008 20:24

One more more thing. Here are the values from erps, but rearranged by Comp-ELO. I needed to do this anyway for my tables, and I am very glad that erps took the info down. BTW, 22000/6 is about 3667, which will get you Drake, with a couple of ELO's in change.

If anyone cares to manipulate the numbers, I found that I could paste into Excel, by selecting 'Paste Special' and 'Text'.

Captains

Comp	Team	Player
3864	TRB	TRB erps
3856	FIN	FIN-Zimo
3813	SOS	SOS Patterson
3810	GTS	GTS Mudda
3810	Red	Elric - Sancerre
3810	TT	theKid
3790	UEG	UEG-Schwen
3757	BK	BK-Neven Subotic
3750	TRUE	TRUE MiguelMarques
3738	OLE	OLE Masimo
3730	TIC	TIC - wasdenn
3722	CAN	kolmo CAN
3690	CH	CH-bassie
3678	GB	GB-Stephan1972
3659	CAT	CAT-suburu
3655	BBB	BBB-Geoff-Blanco
3649	AT	AT_dea1
3635	TA	TA_sauvignon57
3622	White	foudecoasters - Cerdon
3481	AGT	AGT-DerNeusser
3477	Cham.	Sysyphus - Madiran
3474	WMD	WMD onyx puffin
3469	Pink	RV54 - Cassis
3246	ITA	ITA_Qorlas

Domestiques

Comp	Team	Player
3903	UEG	Volleytom
3894	White	Sirius
3866	Red	davidb9 - Mercurey
3855	AT	AT_Angel6
3853	UEG	UEG-schnupferl
3846	Red	Deveric-Vosne Romanée
3806	CAT	CAT-pegaso
3806	Red	Fandan - Haut-Médoc ~ Wanadoo
3805	TT	theTprail
3802	OLE	OLE deep_blue
3799	CAT	CAT-daedin
3779	Red	toutoune - Morgon
3777	TT	theScorps
3773	OLE	OLE sebbo
3755	UEG	UEG-horo
3755	UEG	womble
3753	AT	AT_street
3748	OLE	OLE U 31
3747	Red	kotay - gewürztraminer ~ Wanadoo
3747	UEG	UEG-chrismmm
3746	CAT	CAT-PapiXulu
3745	SOS	SOS Mr Bean
3743	AT	AT_Saurus
3741	TA	TA_Pammes
3741	WMD	psteinx
3739	GTS	The Train
3733	GTS	GTS An-Team
3732	GTS	GTS Ronaldo
3731	TRB	TRB Spock
3722	OLE	OLE ww
3718	SOS	SOS youki
3714	WMD	WMD Black Widow
3704	TIC	TIC - Heizer_65
3701	TT	theZeno
3693	GTS	GTS Goscha
3691	UEG	rudi69
3689	GTS	Tofra
3687	TRB	TRB Tenniskasi
3687	TRUE	TRUE Denmark
3684	AGT	AGT-Hogwarts
3684	TIC	TIC - Hecki
3681	AT	AT_Wernerus
3681	White	TEE - Citeaux
3679	SOS	SOS Truckerteller
3669	TRUE	TRUE Magic Hansen
3665	WMD	WMD Drake WMD
3663	AT	AT_tewe
3660	CAN	matsch CAN
3658	SOS	SOS Annabel
3656	TRUE	TRUE Rui
3655	Pink	Baraka - Cidre
3652	Pink	DiLoL - AngeluS
3650	BBB	BBB-Pepetever-Duvel
3642	TIC	TIC - El Sid
3641	TT	theVballman20
3638	TRB	TRB-SchwyzerToni
3629	TRB	TRB Mnemosyme
3625	TA	TA_süszifusz
3623	Cham.	ti'gévé - Collioure
3623	Red	Neozen - Cairanne ~ Wanadoo
3619	GTS	GTS Nanni
3611	GTS	GTS Colo
3611	GTS	GTS maia
3611	Pink	Floutch - le Jaja de Jau
3609	White	-EPO- Moulin à Vent
3600	SOS	SOS Sjoerd de Slome
3591	BBB	davedavis liégoise
3591	OLE	OLE Robomat
3588	TIC	TIC - Pitze
3587	White	tiploup - Jasnières
3584	TIC	TIC - MaxiJazz
3582	CAT	CAT-aralai
3581	CAT	CAT-hojita
3580	AGT	AGT-Urgestein
3580	TRB	TRB Sookie
3579	TRUE	TRUE Olle Boll
3578	OLE	OLE Mason
3578	White	ilété1fois - Jurançon
3577	OLE	Nayeli
3576	CH	CH-Jac_
3575	Cham.	pipodibo2 - gros plant
3575	TRB	TRB Ramses
3573	CAN	Hawaienne CAN
3570	GB	GB-stemayf
3570	Pink	Drannoc - Vacqueyras
3569	CH	CH-Leleline_M
3568	FIN	FIN-Juuco
3564	ITA	ITA_angelo
3561	CAT	CAT-Tablilla
3559	TRB	TRB ThoMue1982
3556	BK	BK-aceJumpMan23
3554	AGT	AGT-xsandrax
3553	TT	theWildfire
3545	CAT	CAT-juanfpdm
3542	TT	theDizz
3532	TIC	TIC - U 32
3524	White	RFAD - Saint-Emilion
3523	TIC	TIC-Uhrfriese
3519	BBB	BBB-Koel Player
3518	UEG	thadd
3517	TA	TA-Karin1961
3516	WMD	WMD Monstar
3512	Cham.	nico06 - Château Yquem
3512	WMD	WMD Baron
3508	BBB	BBB-SuperChi-May
3506	Cham.	la douce - Chouchenn
3505	White	nicole - vin de moselle ~ Wanadoo
3501	TRUE	TNTic
3497	FIN	FIN-sisu
3496	CAN	Tink CAN
3492	CAN	express CAN
3492	Pink	HALIK - Pratavone
3492	TA	TA_itchy
3487	CAN	Bigslug CAN
3486	AGT	AGT-xbomanx
3485	GB	GB ironhorse1
3479	BBB	BBB-Popol-ValDieu
3475	AT	AT_Lucullupus
3474	OLE	OLE Bats_
3457	Pink	JFGUIGUI - GRAVES
3438	Pink	Audrey - Muscat
3434	TRB	TRB Rocket
3425	TRUE	TRUE Loan
3422	White	léachris - Champagne
3421	GB	GB-angil
3419	BK	BK -- solinsf
3416	BBB	BBB-freddoche-Orval
3413	AGT	AGT-Technikerin
3408	FIN	FIN-tumpp1
3396	GB	GB-Robin Hood
3390	AGT	AGT-Toffer14
3387	BK	BK-Yellow
3385	AGT	lisa171
3370	BK	BK-DieSuperlok
3366	CH	CH-Rick Rogers
3363	AGT	AGT-pützi
3359	CAN	John CAN
3357	ITA	ITA_barbarnaud
3315	TA	steve111
3302	TT	theTyrana
3295	Cham.	pipodibo - Coteaux du Layon
3281	CH	ch-swissli
3271	BK	Hauptbahnhof
3251	CH	CH-tchols
3248	BK	RealtorWill
3247	TRUE	TRUE Mary Mary
3223	WMD	WMD Baroness
3210	FIN	FIN-Snowstar
3208	ITA	ITA_Federica
3199	ITA	ITA_oibaf
3181	FIN	FIN-Valkama
3174	GB	GB-nellytheelephant
3146	FIN	FIN-Evelyn3
3111	Cham.	xennos - Savagnin
3105	ITA	ITA_Giuseppe
3064	CH	CH-tis11
3060	ITA	iseltwald_I
2998	Cham.	Bebs3939 - Meursault
0	CH	CH-uschoen
0	SOS	Peter de Zeeuw

[Updated on: Fri, 12 September 2008 22:50]

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foudecoasters - Cerdon

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Re:Fantasy Nations Cup	Thu, 11 September 2008 21:31

is it good like that? :the crazycoastersTEAM : kotay (reds) 3747 womble (UEG) 3755 maia03 (GTS) 3611 neozen (reds) 3623 Sjoerd de Slome( sos ) 3600 dea1 ( AT) 3649 (c) 21985 pts. [Updated on: Thu, 11 September 2008 23:33] [Report message to a moderator]

Zeno

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Re:Fantasy Nations Cup	Thu, 11 September 2008 21:40

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toutoune - Morgon

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Re:Fantasy Nations Cup	Thu, 11 September 2008 21:53

I proudly announce les toutoons: 3655 BBB BBB-Geoff-Blanco (c) 3741 WMD psteinx 3718 SOS youki 3681 White TEE - Citeaux 3663 AT AT_tewe 3512 Cham. nico06 - Château Yquem sum: 21970 But again, as some players will not play every round (and more in some teams than others), it would nice to have a substitute: a player coming from the same team, but lower ranking. So if both player and substitute play, we look only at player. (And OK, if player AND substitute don't play, as we say in french, "you have it in the bone" = i love stupid translations) [Updated on: Fri, 12 September 2008 13:25] [Report message to a moderator]

Stephan1972

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Re:Fantasy Nations Cup	Thu, 11 September 2008 22:01

Thanks for all the great feedback and help! Note: I have tweaked the rules a little. The most important change is that you should NOT select members of your own team. Two reasons: captains should not be seen to be influenced by this game when they select their team (I can't believe they would be, but best make sure); and captains have more inside knowledge about availability than other players, so that would also not be fair. Rules state pm teams to me, but if you wish to post them here and not keep them secret, that is not a problem. I will update a comprehensive list once I receive all entries. [Report message to a moderator]

dea1

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Re:Fantasy Nations Cup

Thu, 11 September 2008 22:58

GB-Stephan1972 schrieb am Thu, 11 September 2008 22:01

... you should NOT select members of your own team.

Does that apply to the captain as well?
I know that earns me a 10 on the boasting scale Rolling Eyes

... but if I believe that my own team can win the most matches I think I should be allowed to bet on it.
It brought me luck to bet on AT last year, so yes, I want to do it again.

And how long does that apply?
Obviously you cannot be forced to bet on 6 members of the opponent's team if you happen to reach the final Laughing

So maybe we could live with the following rule:
Players have to be from 6 different teams for the RR stage
OK?

[Updated on: Thu, 11 September 2008 22:58]

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Elric - Sancerre

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Re:Fantasy Nations Cup	Thu, 11 September 2008 23:30

Stupid question : toutoune choosed TEE (z.B) in his team, can I choose him also, or not ? Cause if it isn't possible, it's only a run and I don't really see the interest to just be in the 4 or 5 firsts to give their team private joke : ta traduction littérale, TT, elle est vraiment... "bonnasse" [Report message to a moderator]

TD acemandope

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Re:Fantasy Nations Cup	Thu, 11 September 2008 23:34

ACE'S SAVE THE WHALESSS Captain:UEG-Schwen TheTyrana Tink Can WMD Monstar GB-Robin Hood OLE-Deep_Blue Total:21302 Is This ok?????? [Report message to a moderator]

kilia

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Re:Fantasy Nations Cup	Thu, 11 September 2008 23:49

My favorite team: Captain : TT theKid 3810 OLE deep-blue 3802 GTS Gosha 3693 GTS colo 3611 TRUE Olle Boll 3579 AGT-xbomanx 3486 tot: 21981 [Updated on: Thu, 11 September 2008 23:50] [Report message to a moderator]

Stephan1972

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Re:Fantasy Nations Cup	Fri, 12 September 2008 00:12

Wow - entries coming in thick and fast. @Elric: yes - same player can appear in different fantasy teams @Dea: argh - I understand your concerns, especially if your own team reaches the final. I will make two more (and hopefully final) changes to the rules: "no players from own team for round robin - subsequent transfers in CAN be from own team" with the exception "team captain can be own team" This allows you to bet on your own team, and allows you to have a full team if you reach the final. This is untidy, but perhaps the best compromise. Apologies to all those who have selected their team already - feel free to change them. Any final suggestions on rule changes must be told to me by midnight (UK time). NOTE: Not sure when SKM will announce the lineups. This may of course influence your decision about who you pick. Amendments to your lineup will be allowed before the deadline (Saturday 1.00pm CEST). [Updated on: Fri, 12 September 2008 00:18] [Report message to a moderator]

Elric - Sancerre

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Re:Fantasy Nations Cup	Fri, 12 September 2008 02:06

Well, not easy for the "Red TGV" Captain to not choose his fantastic partners... wouldn't it be a bit unfair ? Anyway, I bet on this gang from the Young Kingdoms : 3810 TT theKid (c) 3855 AT AT_Angel6 3714 WMD WMD Black Widow 3600 SOS SOS Sjoerd de Slome 3519 BBB BBB-Koel Player 3492 Rosé HALIK - Pratavone sum : 21990 ! ... and good luck [Report message to a moderator]

Zimo

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Re:Fantasy Nations Cup	Fri, 12 September 2008 08:44

Ok, here is my team (unfortunately im too good ranked so i couldn't pick myself ) So here is team Z: AT_dea1 (c) CAT-daedin TEE - Citeaux rudi69 GTS maia RFAD - Saint Emilion 21 995 ELO, if im right [Updated on: Fri, 12 September 2008 15:23] [Report message to a moderator]

dea1

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Re:Fantasy Nations Cup	Fri, 12 September 2008 09:20

Fortunately my ranking is lower than Zimo's so I can happily share his choice of captain Let's go for the Allround Troublemakers AT_dea1 (AT) 3649 - captain CAT-daedin (CAT) 3799 SOS youki (SOS) 3718 WMD drake WMD (WMD) 3665 Nayeli (OLE) 3577 CH-Leleline_M (CH) 3569 Total 21977 May I kindly ask my team members to forget all holiday plans they might have had and play and win every match - thank you [Report message to a moderator]

nico06 - Château Yquem

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Re:Fantasy Nations Cup	Fri, 12 September 2008 11:36

Here is TEAM COINCOIN (or TCC which also means "all maintenance charges included") (no direct translation for "coincoin"... it doesn't mean "money money, even though it wouldn't be so bad to earn some webcard only means quack quack ) 3722 CAN kolmo CAN 3802 OLE OLE deep_blue 3779 Red toutoune - Morgon 3722 OLE OLE ww 3611 GTS GTS Colo 3357 ITA ITA_barbarnaud Which costs 21993 Dow$ (the dow-dollar ^^) Oh, and i add to the team the both following players : 0 CH CH-uschoen 0 SOS Peter de Zeeuw Totally free ! [Updated on: Fri, 12 September 2008 11:43] [Report message to a moderator]

Stephan1972

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Re:Fantasy Nations Cup	Fri, 12 September 2008 15:19

No Message Body [Updated on: Fri, 12 September 2008 15:23] [Report message to a moderator]

SOS Annabel

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Re:Fantasy Nations Cup	Fri, 12 September 2008 15:21

OLE-deep_blue (3802) CAT-daedin(3799) toutone-Morgan (3779) AT_dea1 (3649) CH-Jac_ (3576) CH-Rick Rogers (3366) Total: 21971 [Updated on: Sat, 13 September 2008 11:15] [Report message to a moderator]

Requiem For A Dream

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Re:Fantasy Nations Cup	Fri, 12 September 2008 15:37

3649 AT AT_dea1 3576 CH CH-Jac_ 3611 GTS GTS maia 3741 TA TA_Pammes 3755 UEG womble 3658 SOS SOS Annabel hum... 21.990 points [Updated on: Fri, 12 September 2008 16:11] [Report message to a moderator]

Zeno

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Re:Fantasy Nations Cup	Fri, 12 September 2008 16:04

No Message Body [Updated on: Fri, 12 September 2008 16:14] [Report message to a moderator]

Requiem For A Dream

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Re:Fantasy Nations Cup	Fri, 12 September 2008 16:10

damned... encore raté ! mais pourquoi je me plante tout le temps [Updated on: Fri, 12 September 2008 16:10] [Report message to a moderator]

CAT-daedin

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Re:Fantasy Nations Cup	Fri, 12 September 2008 16:11

THE CATS: OLE Deep Blue 3802 toutoune-morgon 3779 SOS-Annabel 3658 AT-dea1 (c)3649 GTS-Maia 3611 TNTic 3501 Total: 22000 [Report message to a moderator]

BTB-pegaso

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Re:Fantasy Nations Cup	Fri, 12 September 2008 16:43

Stephan, just one question, you just can make transfers when yours players are knocked out? or is possible make transfers with players still in the NC? [Report message to a moderator]

CF Miguel

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Re:Fantasy Nations Cup	Fri, 12 September 2008 16:53

also when is the dealine to make your team? [Report message to a moderator]

toutoune - Morgon

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Re:Fantasy Nations Cup	Fri, 12 September 2008 17:16

you like sport, Miguel, then bid before the line-up are done tommorow morning! [Report message to a moderator]

Robin Hood

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Re:Fantasy Nations Cup	Fri, 12 September 2008 17:57

Robins Runners... 1.Elric - Sancere 3810 (capt) 2.davidb9-Mercuery 3866 3.WMD Blak Widow 3714 4.GTS Colo 3611 5.TRB Rocket 3434 6.TRB Thomule1982 3559 Total 21994.... now this team has gotta be worth a 6 month web card [Report message to a moderator]

Lucullupus

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Re:Fantasy Nations Cup	Fri, 12 September 2008 18:07

Ok, if everyone posts here, so do I: my team: MUDDA (GTS-captain) SCHNUPFERL (UEG) FANDAN-HAUT MEDOC-WANADOO (RED TGV) HOGWARTS (AGT) ROBOMAT (OLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE ☺) MARY MARY (TRUE) good luck, Lucullupus [Report message to a moderator]

BTB-pegaso

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Re:Fantasy Nations Cup	Fri, 12 September 2008 18:51

My team: GTS-mudda AT-angel SOS-annabel AGT-xbomanx CH-Leleline_M TA_Suszifusz 21997 points Good luck to everybody! [Report message to a moderator]

Requiem For A Dream

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Re:Fantasy Nations Cup	Fri, 12 September 2008 18:57

many player of same team is ok or not ? [Report message to a moderator]

Stephan1972

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Re:Fantasy Nations Cup	Fri, 12 September 2008 19:15

Hi all, Great to see so many entries. Re questions: Yes, transfers are allowed for ANY reason between RR and KOs and between each of the KO rounds. So, if you have underperforming players you can sell them. Entries and amendments to already entered teams allowed by 1.00pm Saturday (CEST) As many players as you like of same team (but see rules about picking team mates). S. [Updated on: Fri, 12 September 2008 19:15] [Report message to a moderator]

DrakeStorm

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Re:Fantasy Nations Cup	Fri, 12 September 2008 20:48

3790 = UEG-Schwen (c) 3799 = CAT-Daedin 3779 = Toutoune 3635 = TA-Sauvignon57 3496 = Tink CAN 3485 = GB-Ironhorse1 21,984 [Report message to a moderator]

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