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Gilgamesh

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Re:Campaign Book Vol 1 - Official Errata	Sat, 16 May 2009 12:59

Hi, And in French ? [Report message to a moderator]

Sadistic-Inn-Tent

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Re:Campaign Book Vol 1 - Official Errata	Mon, 18 May 2009 19:26

The pages of the Fall Gelb campaign have a typing error at the bottom right corner. Where it should read "Fall Gelb" it reads "Fall Geld" instead. And Geld means money in Germany so that is kinda funny and just a minor error. The Campaign Book is great! [Report message to a moderator]

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Re:Campaign Book Vol 1 - Official Errata	Tue, 19 May 2009 19:47

Does DOW intend to release a revised version of Volume 1 with these errors corrected? [Report message to a moderator]

stevens

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Re:Campaign Book Vol 1 - Official Errata	Tue, 19 May 2009 22:33

Let's think realistically now! I would expect that DOW, if they do a second printing of the Campaign Book, would consider the cost of a second edit as well. But in all likelihood it would not be cost effective. In reality, almost all printed books have errors in them - such is life! [Updated on: Tue, 19 May 2009 23:38] [Report message to a moderator]

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Re:Campaign Book Vol 1 - Official Errata

Tue, 19 May 2009 23:28

decumanusmaximus wrote on Tue, 19 May 2009 10:47

Does DOW intend to release a revised version of Volume 1 with these errors corrected?

That's a good question but my guess would be that it wouldn't make sense, cost wise. They might make the correction in the next printing, but who knows how many copies they made the first time and when a second printing will happen.

You could print out the page and stick it in the book if you want, so you always have it to refer to.

stevens

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Re:Campaign Book Vol 1 - Official Errata	Tue, 19 May 2009 23:40

Or do like I do: Take some address labels and print the corrections on them and stick them on the pages with the errors. This way you have the corrections right on the exact page. [Report message to a moderator]

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Re:Campaign Book Vol 1 - Official Errata	Wed, 20 May 2009 04:18

I agree that all books have errors. However, in this particular circumstance, based on the volume and nature of the errors in addition to issues with the binding, I (speaking for me only here) don't find it acceptable based on the cost. I don't wish to offend anybody here and I feel that the content (rules, scenarios, etc.) look very well thought out and organized. I applaud the dedicated time and effort of the individuals (you know who you are) that produced this content. But for me, I can't reward the shoddy editing and poor quality binding with my hard earned dollar. Just my 2 cents. Over and out. [Report message to a moderator]

yangtze

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Re:Campaign Book Vol 1 - Official Errata	Wed, 20 May 2009 08:57

To be fair, if you take out the purely cosmetic, and errors that are easy to figure out as errors (or else they wouldn't be spotted! ), and apply the 'the map takes precedence over the setup bar' rule, I think there are only 3 errors that might affect gameplay. There might even be less than that. Would someone care to analyse? Can't get the time right now. [Report message to a moderator]

Czechfan

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Re:Campaign Book Vol 1 - Official Errata	Wed, 20 May 2009 14:29

I was a bit disappointed with the quality of the CB especially as it cost over £25 in the UK. However if you are Memoir '44 fan you have to have it.... [Report message to a moderator]

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Re:Campaign Book Vol 1 - Official Errata	Wed, 20 May 2009 15:27

Having looked through CB1 again, I must admit I'm really impressed with the content and I don't want to give up the book. I think it would be great if DOW came up with a printable document (.pdf) of graphical changes that could be printed on label-like paper (paper with a sticky backing) and cut to place over the errors in the book. Or perhaps there's an enterprising individual out there who could do the same? I'd love to do it, however, I'm not sure I have the skill set. I believe this would go a long way to overcoming my (and others) hesitation about keeping the book and it could be produced by DOW at almost no cost. It seems like a win/win to me. [Report message to a moderator]

tpx63

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Re:Campaign Book Vol 1 - Official Errata

Wed, 20 May 2009 17:01

decumanusmaximus wrote on Wed, 20 May 2009 15:27

Having looked through CB1 again, I must admit I'm really impressed with the content and I don't want to give up the book. I think it would be great if DOW came up with a printable document (.pdf) of graphical changes that could be printed on label-like paper (paper with a sticky backing) and cut to place over the errors in the book. ...

Should I speak english that way I'd say the same thing!

[Updated on: Wed, 20 May 2009 17:05]

Czechfan

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Re:Campaign Book Vol 1 - Official Errata	Wed, 20 May 2009 20:50

The content of the book is very good. My interest in all things WW2 is well and truly resurrected. I think the variety and playability of this system make for an outstanding package. Although the battles are simplified it gives jaded old wargamers (like me) a new interest in wargaming. Incidentally when I e-mailed Days of Wonder about the 'falling apart' issue the response was amazing. They really seem to care about their customers. [Report message to a moderator]

nemesszili

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Re:Campaign Book Vol 1 - Official Errata	Wed, 27 May 2009 15:36

I found another bug in the Smolensk scenario! The river is not finished on the right! Why is this? [Report message to a moderator]

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Re:Campaign Book Vol 1 - Official Errata

Wed, 27 May 2009 16:54

nemesszili wrote on Wed, 27 May 2009 06:36

I found another bug in the Smolensk scenario! The river is not finished on the right! Why is this?

Ask Yangtze, but it looks to me like he might have designed it that way. I don't believe it's a mistake.

yangtze

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Re:Campaign Book Vol 1 - Official Errata	Wed, 27 May 2009 18:03

Indeed, there is no major river to cross between Rzhev and the source of the Dnieper. It might look better if you swapped that last river tile for the Headwater tile, in fact I'm not sure why I didn't do that anyway (you can call that a bug if you like, but it's one in my head), but the map is functionally correct. [Report message to a moderator]

Shoegaze99

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Re:Campaign Book Vol 1 - Official Errata

Tue, 02 June 2009 18:36

stevens wrote on Tue, 19 May 2009 16:33

Let's think realistically now!
I would expect that DOW, if they do a second printing of the Campaign Book, would consider the cost of a second edit as well. But in all likelihood it would not be cost effective. In reality, almost all printed books have errors in them - such is life!

There is virtually zero cost for making the corrections in a second printing of the book. You crack open the original InDesign files (or whatever software was used to lay out the pages) and correct the text, then a few minor graphical changes. It'd take one employee an hour or so to do.

You can be sure that if the book goes into a second printing -- and it's a quality product, so I hope its successful enough to -- that these errors will be fixed.

(I do hope they use a new binder, too. I love the contents but am less enamored with the physical product. Doesn't feel like it will stand up over the years.)

Brummbar44

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Re:Campaign Book Vol 1 - Official Errata	Wed, 24 June 2009 18:29

Thanks to SteveNightrain's latest questions about the book, I've discovered another errata in the final edit. My original notes on the Breakout Campaign verify that if the Axis win the campaign after Operation Cobra, the Grand Campaign should move on to 'Falaise' not 'Early Falaise' as it appears in the book. Page 25 of the book requires the correction. [Report message to a moderator]

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Re:Campaign Book Vol 1 - Official Errata

Thu, 25 June 2009 15:53

Quote:

Thanks to SteveNightrain's latest questions about the book, I've discovered another errata in the final edit.

My original notes on the Breakout Campaign verify that if the Axis win the campaign after Operation Cobra, the Grand Campaign should move on to 'Falaise' not 'Early Falaise' as it appears in the book. Page 25 of the book requires the correction.

If you look at Flanking Caen on page 19 under Withdrawal from Hill 112, the CB simply has a grey tank image without any text because, if the Axis win, they move onto Hill 112. It seems this should be the case for The Breakout on page 25 under Operations Cobra. If you are supposed to move onto Falaise with a win during Operation Cobra in the Grand Campaign and ignore the green arrow, then the Grand Campaign text under Counter-Attack on Mortain is meaningless. If you want to preserve the "win" text (ex. "Althouth the Allies pressed us hard ..."), I think the GRAND CAMPAIGN, move on to "Early Falaise" should be removed entirely. Your thoughts?

Now, having said that, I'm working on a sticker sheet to correct the errata in the CB. However, for some of the corrections, I don't have the correct font and colors. Malcolm, is there any chance you could pull some strings at DOW and, if I provide you what I already have, they could provide the graphical corrections for the remaining items (about 4 in total). If not, could they at least provide the name of the font and colour information for the missing corrections? I'm sure I'm pushing the boundaries here but I'd like to try if DOW is willing to meet me half way on this. I can send you what I have any time. Let me know and thanks in advance.

Brummbar44

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Re:Campaign Book Vol 1 - Official Errata

Thu, 25 June 2009 16:04

decumanusmaximus wrote on Thu, 25 June 2009 06:53

Correct, technically this is another case of simply 'If the Axis win the Campaign'. The flavour text could be kept but is unnecessary to the game.

decumanusmaximus wrote on Thu, 25 June 2009 06:53

Now, having said that, I'm working on a sticker sheet to correct the errata in the CB. However, for some of the corrections, I don't have the correct font and colors. Malcolm, is there any chance you could pull some strings at DOW and, if I provide you what I already have, they could provide the graphical corrections for the remaining items (about 4 in total). If not, could they at least provide the name of the font and colour information for the missing corrections? I'm sure I'm pushing the boundaries here but I'd like to try if DOW is willing to meet me half way on this. I can send you what I have any time. Let me know and thanks in advance.

This is a great idea! DoW should be easily able to make up an errata sheet and make it downloadable. They could be printed on a sticker sheet and applied directly to the book.

Eric?

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Re:Campaign Book Vol 1 - Official Errata

Thu, 25 June 2009 17:56

Brummbär wrote on Thu, 25 June 2009 08:04

decumanusmaximus wrote on Thu, 25 June 2009 06:53

Correct, technically this is another case of simply 'If the Axis win the Campaign'. The flavour text could be kept but is unnecessary to the game.

However, at this point my brain gets confused as to whether I follow the green arrow or follow the Grand Campaign text (assuming I'm playing the Grand Campaign) which indicates I move onto Falaise (corrected text) and bypass Counter-Attack on Mortain. Just for clarification, is it the intention of the CB authors to indicate that, in the event of a win during Operation Cobra, I should move immediately to Falaise during the Grand Campaign or do I follow the green arrow, play Counter-Attack on Mortain and then proceed to Falaise? If it's the latter, I would "cover up" the text (from my sticker sheet) on the Grand Campaign box under Operation Cobra indicating to "move on to ..." or, if the former, I would simply affix a sticker that changes the text to read "move on to Falaise". And yes, I'm a rules monger!

Quote:

This is a great idea! DoW should be easily able to make up an errata sheet and make it downloadable. They could be printed on a sticker sheet and applied directly to the book.

Eric?

Pretty please Eric? Very Happy

I can forward you what I have so far. I'm sure you'd have the appreciation of myself and a great many others.

Brummbar44

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Re:Campaign Book Vol 1 - Official Errata	Thu, 25 June 2009 18:36

In the Breakout Campaign, the Axis should only really have one outcome should they win the campaign regardless of what the last scenario is, and that is 'Move on to Falaise'. If the Axis win the Op Cobra scenario, the campaign doesn't actually end but rather goes on to the Counter Attack at Mortain scenario (after which the outcome is 'Move on to Falaise' no matter which side wins). So the only way for the Grand Campaign to 'Move on to Early Falaise' from this campaign is for the Allies to not only win Op Cobra (which would end the campaign) but to also win the campaign itself (if the Axis win the campaign at this point, the Grand Campaign should 'Move on to Falaise'). Hope that clears the issue up. [Report message to a moderator]

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Re:Campaign Book Vol 1 - Official Errata

Fri, 26 June 2009 17:21

Brummbär wrote on Thu, 25 June 2009 10:36

In the Breakout Campaign, the Axis should only really have one outcome should they win the campaign regardless of what the last scenario is, and that is 'Move on to Falaise'.

If the Axis win the Op Cobra scenario, the campaign doesn't actually end but rather goes on to the Counter Attack at Mortain scenario (after which the outcome is 'Move on to Falaise' no matter which side wins).

So the only way for the Grand Campaign to 'Move on to Early Falaise' from this campaign is for the Allies to not only win Op Cobra (which would end the campaign) but to also win the campaign itself (if the Axis win the campaign at this point, the Grand Campaign should 'Move on to Falaise').

Hope that clears the issue up.

It clears it up and thanks for your help on this!

rtpMark

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Re:Campaign Book Vol 1 - Official Errata	Wed, 01 July 2009 18:06

I looked in the errata the top of this thread and also did a forum search before posting this question... On the Heavy Tank Track on p68, the 4 boxes for the number of units destroyed aren't mutually exclusive , so I'm thinking that the first box where it says 0-2 units destroyed should just have 0(a zero)? Having loads of fun with this book! [Report message to a moderator]

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Re:Campaign Book Vol 1 - Official Errata

Thu, 02 July 2009 17:15

player244969 wrote on Wed, 01 July 2009 09:06

I looked in the errata the top of this thread and also did a forum search before posting this question...

On the Heavy Tank Track on p68, the 4 boxes for the number of units destroyed aren't mutually exclusive , so I'm thinking that the first box where it says 0-2 units destroyed should just have 0(a zero)?

Having loads of fun with this book! Razz

No, the box is correct (I believe). The reason it says 0-2 units is because you have to destroy 3 heavy tanks before gaining the benefit. If you only manage to get 2 heavy tanks, it's basically the same as if you didn't destroy any! Very Happy

The idea is that the objective track forces that player to really target the heavy tanks, maybe at the sacrifice of other objectives.

I hope this clears it up. Cool

yangtze

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Re:Campaign Book Vol 1 - Official Errata	Thu, 02 July 2009 18:37

Then the second box should say 3? [Report message to a moderator]

rtpMark

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Re:Campaign Book Vol 1 - Official Errata

Thu, 02 July 2009 19:49

rasmussen81 wrote on Thu, 02 July 2009 11:15

The idea is that the objective track forces that player to really target the heavy tanks, maybe at the sacrifice of other objectives.

I hope this clears it up. Cool

Thanks for your response, Rasmussen81, but I'm thinking I didn't make my question clear - my apologies. Let me try again...

On the heavy tank track on p68, there are 4 boxes:
Box 1: 0-2 destroyed gives zero pts
Box 2: 1 destroyed gives 1 pt
Box 3: 2-3 destroyed gives 2 pts
Box 4: 4+ destroyed gives 3 pts
See how the boxes aren't mutually exclusive? If I kill 2 tank units, do I get zero points or two points?

Achtung Panzer

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Re:Campaign Book Vol 1 - Official Errata

Thu, 02 July 2009 19:59

rasmussen81 wrote on Thu, 02 July 2009 16:15

player244969 wrote on Wed, 01 July 2009 09:06

The idea is that the objective track forces that player to really target the heavy tanks, maybe at the sacrifice of other objectives.

Oh! I've mis-read and played it as a running total from the start:

0 tank units = 0 points
1 tank unit = 1 point
2 - 3 tank units = 2 points
4+ tank units = 3 points

Is what you're saying that the extra points are additional to the 1 you get for knocking out your third tank unit?

0 - 2tank units = 0 additional points
3rd tank unit = 1 point
2 - 3 extra tank units = 2 additional points
4+ extra tank units = 3 additional points

It would be clearer if this was a typo error! Smile

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Re:Campaign Book Vol 1 - Official Errata	Thu, 02 July 2009 22:13

Sorry for the confusion! I should have looked at the book before my last answer because it looks like it is a typo. Looking at it, I think the first box on the Heavy Tank track on page 68 should indeed be 0 (zero) instead of 0-2. That would make the objective track match the layout of all the other ones. [Report message to a moderator]

Achtung Panzer

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Re:Campaign Book Vol 1 - Official Errata	Sat, 04 July 2009 00:43

Well that's cleared that one up. I'll make the change in my book. [Report message to a moderator]

Antoine

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Re:Campaign Book Vol 1 - Official Errata	Sun, 05 July 2009 12:59

It is a typo indeed. Probably a wrong copy/Paste from the previous campaign. Sorry about that. [Report message to a moderator]

rtpMark

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Re:Campaign Book Vol 1 - Official Errata	Fri, 10 July 2009 19:46

Thank you Ras and Antoine for confirming this...I don't think I would've noticed the typo but for the fact that I had killed 4 tank units in this campaign! [Report message to a moderator]

Rock Shox Lyrik

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Re:Campaign Book Vol 1 - Official Errata	Sat, 05 September 2009 14:01

I think I have found an error in the Objective Track for the Axis in the Airbourne Operation campaign. In the whole campaign I see only 4 possible medals for the axis - for destroying the 4 turrets in the first scenario. But the objective track shows 6 possible medals? I don't seen from where they can come from? [Updated on: Sat, 05 September 2009 14:01] [Report message to a moderator]

Bayernkini

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Re:Campaign Book Vol 1 - Official Errata	Sat, 05 September 2009 16:31

In next scenario, "Unternehmen NIWI", the axis can get 2 medals, if they move their breakthrough ARM of board about the Exit-Hex [Report message to a moderator]

Rock Shox Lyrik

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Re:Campaign Book Vol 1 - Official Errata

Sat, 05 September 2009 17:28

Bayernkini wrote on Sat, 05 September 2009 17:31

In next scenario, "Unternehmen NIWI", the axis can get 2 medals, if they move their breakthrough ARM of board about the Exit-Hex Razz

Ok, thanks Smile

I didn't think these medals count as Objective Medals, but I see now it makes sense Smile

tank commander

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Re:Campaign Book Vol 1 - Official Errata

Wed, 09 September 2009 14:58

eric wrote on Fri, 15 May 2009 18:06

Setup misprints
p. 20 - Securing the Flank
Setup should mention 3 sandbags instead of 2.

p.44 - Bodange
(cosmetic) Setup should mention 1 Roadblock instead of Abattis.

p.59 - Battle of the Lys
Setup should mention 8 sandbags instead of 1.

p.89 - Smolensk
(cosmetic) The US medal should be a Russian medal.

p.99 - Velikaya Bridgehead
Duplicated town hex in the setup.

p.100 - Ingermanland
Setup should mention Abattis.

p.101 - Luga bridges
The forked railroad tile is not the good one in the setup.

p.102 - Ivanovskoye Bridgehead
Setup mentions 5x curved roads, but there's only one on the map.
Setup does not mention any roads, while there are 5 of them on the map.

I found two others:

p.36 - Sainte-Martin and Bull Bridge
Setup mentions 5 sandbags but there are only 4 on the map.

P. 74 - To Crecy-Sur-Serre
Setup mentions 4 sandbags but there is only 1 on the map.

[Updated on: Fri, 11 September 2009 04:13]

Marc1

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Re:Campaign Book Vol 1 - Official Errata	Sat, 12 September 2009 13:38

Hi Tank Commander I've just looked at my book and I see the correct amount of sandbags listed. I think the missing ones are the ones that are placed underneath the town names and barely visible. They're very hard to see. For Saint-Martin & Bull Ridge: I see that there is one for Saint-Martin. For To Crecy-Sur-Serre: I see one each for Crecy-Sur-Serre, Pouilly & Chalandry. [Report message to a moderator]

tank commander

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Re:Campaign Book Vol 1 - Official Errata

Sat, 12 September 2009 15:05

Marc1 wrote on Sat, 12 September 2009 07:38

Hi Tank Commander

I've just looked at my book and I see the correct amount of sandbags listed. I think the missing ones are the ones that are placed underneath the town names and barely visible. They're very hard to see.

For Saint-Martin & Bull Ridge: I see that there is one for Saint-Martin.

For To Crecy-Sur-Serre: I see one each for Crecy-Sur-Serre, Pouilly & Chalandry.

Hi Marc.

Wow! I had to get out the magnifier to see those Laughing

Thank you for pointing that out as I am building those scenarios and wish to have the correct setups. So I stand corrected and ignore my prior post - later I shall sit corrected when I get tired (as my aging eyes seem to be now Very Happy