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  Re:Acedopeman Cheater Wed, 19 August 2009 12:08
yep, Baron, you got the point! Cool
      
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Re:Acedopeman Cheater Wed, 19 August 2009 15:11
Okay

Question 1: Have I ever let Dennis use 1 of my accounts-The answer to this is no I have not.

Question 2: Have I ever let Dennis use 1 of my brothers accounts-The answer here is yes I have, in days after the Dennis account was terminated I allowed him to sign in with spartan so he could play some games. Then after he got Grasrittler as a birthday present, I changed the pw on spartans account. This was a period of 2-3 days. Also he didn't chat with anyone, I think that this is better. All he wanted was to play. No revenge, no nothing, just play.

Question 3: Is basically answered above.

Question 4: Do I have the intention to let Dennis play in this years NC? No. Spartan has intentions and plans for it though, to bad others are trying to crush his hope of playing in the Nations Cup for the 1st time.

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Re:Acedopeman Cheater Wed, 19 August 2009 16:06
TD acemandopeSTW wrote on Wed, 19 August 2009 15:11



Question 2: Have I ever let Dennis use 1 of my brothers accounts-The answer here is yes I have, in days after the Dennis account was terminated I allowed him to sign in with spartan so he could play some games. Then after he got Grasrittler as a birthday present, I changed the pw on spartans account. This was a period of 2-3 days. Also he didn't chat with anyone, I think that this is better. All he wanted was to play. No revenge, no nothing, just play.




As far as I can see, Dennis became inactive on the 18th of May 2009, though I would doubt his account was "terminated" as you say. All I see is a one week suspension by DoW in another thread.

So, Spartan's games: http://www.daysofwonder.com/en/gamehistory/?playerid=267105& amp; amp;year=2009&noaborted=true&game=TT&start=100&a mp;a mp;count=20

Did he play 2 or 3 days before you played Patterson & Dizz in Feud and after Spartan beat Marshall Vorwarts 3 times in Euro ?

Is Dennis really poor and cannot pay for a new account by himself ?

Did his birthday come really early this year ? According to his profile and FEUD discussions I had with him last year, his birthday is on the 14th of June: http://www.daysofwonder.com/en/usrinfo/?id=383259

If I look at Gralsritter's profile, it became active on the 19th of May: http://www.daysofwonder.com/en/usrinfo/?id=545273

I have a hard time squeezing in those 2 or 3 days you're talking about.

How does it work anyway, letting someone sign in on your brother's account ? Do you OWN your brother's account and rule ? Doesn't your brother let Dennis play on HIS account ?

[Updated on: Wed, 19 August 2009 16:15]

      
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Re:Acedopeman Cheater Wed, 19 August 2009 17:07
Trucker I can understand what your saying

Im sorry I don't know all the dates and stuff, I don't know every detail and everything about the games he played because it was him who played them.

I don't know if Dennis's account was terminated or not, this is just what he told me.

I know spartans pw, because I set up his account for him with my dad as I said before. Also I asked spartan if it would be ok if Dennis signed in a few times to play some games.

I said he played 2-3 days, Not 3 straight, I would communicate with him via skype and tell him pw, he would play his games, then he would tell me that he was leaving he would sign out, and I would change spartans pw. And put it on a sticky on our computer telling kyle his new pw.

The 3 games that spartan won against MV, Spartan won himself, it was not dennis who played those games, in fact I only think dennis played like 10 games.

So here is where your wrong trucker, You say his account became active on the 19th the day after Dennis's termination. Well it may have become active in Gang of Four, but not Ticket to Ride. He wanted to play TTR but not pay another 9.99, to do so. So he figured he would just wait for his birthday, which wasn't as far as you make it sound. Take a look when did grals start playing ticket to ride? I'm not sure but I think it is the 14th of June. I figure why bother looking it up as I am sure you will.

      
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Re:Acedopeman Cheater Wed, 19 August 2009 19:45
I am not ignoring your comments for the next 3 days. As I like what you have to say. I am just going to be out of town without Internet,Electricty, or TTR.

Td-acemandopeSTW
      
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Re:Acedopeman Cheater Wed, 19 August 2009 20:25
TD acemandopeSTW schrieb am Wed, 19 August 2009 19:45

I am just going to be out of town without Internet,Electricty...

Oh - You are moving to BIELEFELD?!
      
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Re:Acedopeman Cheater Wed, 19 August 2009 21:13
HAHAHAHAHA is it THAT bad ?

Grats again, Mudman, rank 1, though you'll always be German...
      
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Re:Acedopeman Cheater Wed, 19 August 2009 21:24
TD acemandopeSTW schrieb am Wed, 19 August 2009 17:07


The 3 games that spartan won against MV, Spartan won himself, it was not dennis who played those games, in fact I only think dennis played like 10 games.



OOOAAHH... can't read that anymore. It depresses me! Please stop that! Shocked No matter if it was Dennis or a Greek player. I am a so lousy EU-player... Confused

But: I won against ace(?) in the last EMC. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
Oh no, I remember, I was lucky... Cool

      
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Re:Acedopeman Cheater Wed, 19 August 2009 22:04
yeah MV....
Even my cat says she can beat u on eu map.... so no biggie Very Happy
Robin.
Ps. off to ask my cat if she knows the pw for spartans account Laughing

[Updated on: Wed, 19 August 2009 22:06]

      
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Re:Acedopeman Cheater Wed, 19 August 2009 22:48
Robin Hood wrote on Wed, 19 August 2009 22:04


Ps. off to ask my cat if she knows the pw for spartans account Laughing


i think it might be "fast and fair" Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
      
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Re:Acedopeman Cheater Thu, 20 August 2009 00:37
hey, is that German?
Fast (=beinahe, engl. almost) fair? Laughing
      
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Re:Acedopeman Cheater Thu, 20 August 2009 03:39
LALALALALALALALALALALALALALAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA



lol that's all Razz

I'm not a liar lalalalalala

10 posts and we'll get the whole truth Wink !

[Updated on: Thu, 20 August 2009 12:11]

      
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Re:Acedopeman Cheater Thu, 20 August 2009 19:38
Sysyphus - Madiran écrit le Mon, 17 August 2009 07:34

I'm waiting for kolmo's answers lol. But i don't want to fight...


I have this to say to you :

1. You just repeated Truck's data, in a less readable form.

2. If you want to have the Dopes out of NC, complain to your captain or your board representative.

3. You lie a lot when you play. By chance we all know it.

4. Too bad you don't want to fight : a pole is not that good to manoeuver out of a cross-check or to block a slap shot.

[Updated on: Thu, 20 August 2009 19:40]

      
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Re:Acedopeman Cheater Thu, 20 August 2009 19:53
Have you evolved beyond truth and semantics, kolmo ?
      
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Re:Acedopeman Cheater Thu, 20 August 2009 19:59
[quote title=kolmo écrit le Thu, 20 August 2009 19:38]
Sysyphus - Madiran écrit le Mon, 17 August 2009 07:34

I'm waiting for kolmo's answers lol. But i don't want to fight...


I have this to say to you :

1. You just repeated Truck's data, in a less readable form.

Repeating, cause last time Trucker was killed cause no one believed him. I was the one that sent Trucker all those pieces of information via pm. But i left in holidays before getting more proves... he decided to tell this here, I don't mind... was a good thing cause we both had no doubts anyway... And sorry for my unperfect english, i've never pretended to be a star... I can type it in a form you'd love in French

2. If you want to have the Dopes out of NC, complain to your captain or your board representative.

No worries for that, I will. But good to share my point of view and let others captain know before NC

3. You lie a lot when you play. By chance we all know it.

And ? Is that cheating ? And ? Forbidden to get fun ? And ? Bla Bla ? lol
4. Too bad you don't want to fight : a pole is not that good to manoeuver out of a cross-check or to block a slap shot.

I can't fight physically but with fries in a pool and with pillows i'm quite good, if u wanna taste Wink

5. Would be good to meet the good mood of kolmo one day.

[Updated on: Thu, 20 August 2009 20:00]

      
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Re:Acedopeman Cheater Thu, 20 August 2009 20:09
A player (Dennis) is banned/muted for a while cause he cheated and insulted other people. So another player (Ace/Spartan) offers him his account.

Conclusion: Rules are only made for other players - but not for Dennis and Ace.

It's the same thing that we learned some months ago: Dennis is always his own lawyer, attorney and judge. Sense of guilt? No. And he always admits only those thing everyone knows.

Sorry Ace, i know you're a good player. But why the hell should we trust you now? This whole story smells ugly.

I'm sorry, but when i have to play against this Spartan-account in upcoming tournaments i demand closed games. Sad story so far ...

Friendly greetings,
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Re:Acedopeman Cheater Thu, 20 August 2009 21:52
Sysyphus - Madiran écrit le Thu, 20 August 2009 13:59


3. You lie a lot when you play. By chance we all know it.

And ? Is that cheating ? And ? Forbidden to get fun ? And ? Bla Bla ? lol



I'd say that you just admitted being a liar. Lalalalal lol.

[Updated on: Thu, 20 August 2009 21:54]

      
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Re:Acedopeman Cheater Thu, 20 August 2009 22:09
I'm a well-known liar too Smile and still waiting for a thread about me lying : hope you'll write it within 782 lines Smile !
Wink.

But, i never read kolmo writing some of us were right...

Edit : Lalalalala

[Updated on: Thu, 20 August 2009 22:11]

      
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Re:Acedopeman Cheater Thu, 20 August 2009 22:11
And why would I start a thread as pathetic as this one, and for something you readily admit to boot ?

PS: And who's us ?

PPS: Wink

[Updated on: Thu, 20 August 2009 22:13]

      
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Re:Acedopeman Cheater Thu, 20 August 2009 22:14
US = Dennis, Ace & I cause i gave my pw to them

PS : Lalalala

PPS = lol

PPPS = stop typing crap here, even if it's hard for me to do lol Razz !
      
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Re:Acedopeman Cheater Thu, 20 August 2009 22:34
Sysyphus - Madiran écrit le Thu, 20 August 2009 16:14

US = Dennis, Ace & I cause i gave my pw to them



Are you saying that you gave your pw to Dennis and Ace, Sysy ?

PS: This thread is made possible by very crappy social behaviours, so why not add to it and raise suspicion on your very character, Sysy ?

PPS: Mad

[Updated on: Thu, 20 August 2009 22:38]

      
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Re:Acedopeman Cheater Thu, 20 August 2009 22:45
Truckerteller écrit le Thu, 20 August 2009 13:53

Have you evolved beyond truth and semantics, kolmo ?


That question means you don't know crap about semantics, Truck.

PS: Twisted Evil

[Updated on: Thu, 20 August 2009 22:46]

      
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Re:Acedopeman Cheater Thu, 20 August 2009 22:49
Are you OK ?
      
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Re:Acedopeman Cheater Thu, 20 August 2009 22:57
Do you know what you're doing in this very thread? Are you aware that, considering all the Dopes have said so far, even if by a very lucky streak you were right, what is being done here looks a bit foolish and sad? Sad And you, Truck, are you feeling ok about what you're doing right now ?

Have you thought about playing Dope to sort out what you're after, Truck?

[Updated on: Thu, 20 August 2009 23:10]

      
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Re:Acedopeman Cheater Thu, 20 August 2009 23:42
kolmo schrieb am Thu, 20 August 2009 22:57

what is being done here looks a bit foolish and sad?

No, it doesn't!

It looks like Dennis has played with a 'dope account'.
(and there's a post that looks like that, too ... 'walk in our shoes ...')
If he has, it might happen again.
I'm sure, many players do not want to play him (or anyone else under a fake account, btw) in NC (own team members among them).
Therefore I think it's perfectly OK that Trucker, Sysy, Hecki, whoever pointed that out.

This doesn't imply that we should ban team Dope.
But we (talking about me and my team, anyone else should speak for himself) want the captain to be aware that it would definitely not be OK to let Dennis play 'just a game or two' under any of the teams accounts.
For now I believe his word that he won't.
But yes, if there is evidence against it, I want to know, and I might change my opinion.
      
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Re:Acedopeman Cheater Fri, 21 August 2009 00:43
Dea,

DOW is aware of what has been going on in this thread. THEY semingly think it foolish and sad. At least that's what I gather from what they told me. But they won't do anything about it : if it was an issue that could lead to a lawsuit, like racism for instance, they would be legally compelled to do so.

A while ago, I heard of an investigation regarding IPs. My guess is that this has not come conclusive. I suspect that this witch hunt is going on because nothing has come out of it. I can be proven wrong, for sure.

There are ways to act upon what we have as evidence. What is being done here is not one of those. If you think the captains or the board members need to know about something, you talk to the captains or the board members. The last post of Hecki is a good example of the most one can say publicly about the situation, so kudos to him.

If the Dopes were not as good as Monsta, I might find it suspicious. But the fact is that Monsta will never get as strong as these punks. AFAIK, they're at least 100 points stronger than Monsta. If you don't believe me, challenge them !

In any case, Monsta was banned for acting like a jerk. Did the Dope team got any complaints about acting like jerks ? The Monsta I know just can't help it. Gralsritter could not help acting like Monsta for long. If I remember well, it took about a day or two for everybody to recognize him.

The Dopes might be punks, but they're talented punks. A community is judged by the way it takes care of its punks. Nothing justifies the public trial and mockery they're standing now.

PS: Even if cheating has never happened, it might always happen. This episode might be a deterent. Or it might not.

[Updated on: Fri, 21 August 2009 02:46]

      
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Re:Acedopeman Cheater Fri, 21 August 2009 01:38
This whole thread is getting annoying now...just like the "fair title stuff".

Every day a new player writes down his opinion or discusses about old stuff others said days/weeks ago with no conclusion. I think this topic only leads to a NC decision about the team Dope or the participation of the spartan account.

We don't have a 100 % certainty about Dennis aka monstarmaster aka Gralsritter aka whattheBIPever playing the spartan-account more than some days or him intending to play this account during this year's NC. So, you really think the truth will be disclosed before the NC starts???

Just wait until the TD asks about the Board decisions for the NC - this topic will be part of it, I guess.


DN

PS: I did NOT write down any opinion about this topic (for all of you who like to answer on every single word others say...you know who I mean)

[Updated on: Fri, 21 August 2009 01:38]

      
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Re:Acedopeman Cheater Fri, 21 August 2009 02:00
I didn't write a new opinion...
Just backing Truck cause the last time he shared his thoughts, he got killed...

So i shared mine to him and here they are... If he was the only one to state this, nobody would have believed him...And the status of Ace & Spartan would still have been considered as normal...

I gave my opinion and decided to release it with Truck to aim at knowing if we let Ace and Spartan play NC...

Think it worked as some are wondering...

PS : Dom, no need to be annoyed Wink, just some spicy useless fun comments to read, nothing more lol Smile
      
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Re:Acedopeman Cheater Sun, 23 August 2009 03:07
AGT-Marschall Vorwärts wrote on Wed, 19 August 2009 12:24

TD acemandopeSTW schrieb am Wed, 19 August 2009 17:07


The 3 games that spartan won against MV, Spartan won himself, it was not dennis who played those games, in fact I only think dennis played like 10 games.



OOOAAHH... can't read that anymore. It depresses me! Please stop that! Shocked No matter if it was Dennis or a Greek player. I am a so lousy EU-player... Confused

But: I won against ace(?) in the last EMC. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
Oh no, I remember, I was lucky... Cool





Are you saying that me getting lis danzig/cad stock vs pal moskva/kob erz, and the start advantage isn't lucky??

Whatever...

Well I just returned home from my vacation anxious to see what people were saying about me and my bro, and all I find is a bunch of LALALALALALALALALALA from sysy.. Well here is what I have to say to all of you.

Spartan & I wouldn't mind playing closed in NC, if the TD approves of this minor rule change. But please don't ban Spartan from NC, or most any other... I don't know if any of you knows what it feels like to be spartan right now, or even myself. Well at first we thought it would just blow by, but now it doesn't seem to do so. Spartan would really like to play NC, how would you feel Sysyphus if someone called you out as a cheater, and you knew you weren't but you got banned from playing in the Nuts Tourney..Imagine how you would feel, not very good. Yes Dennis played a few games on spartans account but that was only like 5 games, and for a short period of time, just to help dennis get by.

To me this whole thing is just very sad and fruitless.

Let the Dopes play!

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Re:Acedopeman Cheater Sun, 23 August 2009 17:57
My dear Ace,

I would gladly let you play. I'm sure neither you nor your brother will cheat, nor will you let Dennis play. I have no issue with playing you in an open game.

However...

What you constantly seem to CHOOSE not see is the following:

This online game, and its tournaments, is based on trust. You fail to acknowledge that playing your own brother - of whom you have the password - 31 times and winning (followed by him beating deadin the next day and many other 1500+ players) is shady.

You fail to acknowledge that giving your brother's password to Dennis / monstarmaster while he is banned is shady.

You fail to acknowledge that letting someone else play on your or your brother's account is shady in the first place.

You fail to acknowledge that having multiple second accounts and doing whatever you please with them is shady.

You fail to acknowledge that your brother "acting" like Dennis / monstarmaster in FEUD when at the same time (before/after/during FEUD) you are lending your brother's account to Dennis / monstarmaster is shady.

Last year, you made a team with Neven and Superlok. You expressed they cheated. Thank you for that. But you'd have to agree forming this team was bad judgement. Shady.

You continue to defend yourself with things like "Duluth Houston is my least favourite ticket", "Dennis only played something like five games", Dennis used my brother's account until his birthday came up, when it all sounds like complete CRAP.

We disagree that you cheated vs. me. WHO CARES. I don't. You're friends with Dennis, Baron. Whatever.

BUT

IF YOU WANT TO BE CAPTAIN OF AN NC TEAM, START FFFFF*IN' ACTING LIKE YOU'RE NOT A COMPLETE UNTRUSTWORTHY MORON. STOP BLAMING OTHERS. ACT LIKE A NORMAL PERSON IN THE LOBBY. STOP MAKING SILLY COMPARISONS. TAKE RESPONSIBILITY. EARN SOME TRUST.

I, for one, will gladly play you a best of 9.

Kind regards,
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Well said, Truck ! Sun, 23 August 2009 19:24
Ace,

I won't let you time to answer Truck. I would also add that you should also aknowledge the fact that talking about cracking a website in the lobby is not a way to earn trust. I told you yesterday what you should do, so I won't repeat myself. I will repeat this, though :

The main issue, in my most humble opinion, is about sportsmanship. Promise sporstmanship, Ace, and you might get a chance. Show sportsmanship and everything will go smoothly.

Now let's see that best of 9 !

PS: I still disagree about that Dul-Hou, Truck : taking Hel-Sea would have won.

[Updated on: Sun, 23 August 2009 19:25]

      
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Re:Acedopeman Cheater Sun, 23 August 2009 22:01
TD acemandopeSTW schrieb am Sun, 23 August 2009 03:07



Are you saying that me getting lis danzig/cad stock vs pal moskva/kob erz, and the start advantage isn't lucky??




C'mon Ace, this is ridculous. Laughing
The starts alternated (starter button?!) and in the last game you had the starting advantage and Kop-Erz (vs Bre-Petro). I just blocked you and you lost. Your comment: I was lucky. Rolling Eyes
This behaviour reminded me of someone and I didn't forget it. Just keep that in mind. Cool

Greets
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Re:Acedopeman Cheater Mon, 24 August 2009 04:14
SOS Truckerteller wrote on Sun, 23 August 2009 05:57

My dear Ace,

We disagree that you cheated vs. me. WHO CARES. I don't. You're friends with Dennis, Baron. Whatever.

Kind regards,
Truckerteller


Do me a favor Truck and keep my name out of your squabbles. We all get it o.k.? You have issues with me. Yippee.

I actually think you are probably right on this issue and as the person that actually gave Monstar his chance in the NC last year, I agree with you and don't want to see Monstar playing this time around in the NC or playing with anyones account besides his own at any time.

Ace you have enabled Dennis time and time again and so if people don't find you 100% trustworthy then deal with it. You made your choices, deal with the consequences. Be a man and admit your mistakes like Trucker asks and I'm sure there is loads of forgiveness to go around. (at least for you ☺)

As for Spartan. It's NOT amusing how Dennis acts. If you think it is and you want to try to emulate that then you still have a lot of growing up to do. If you want to act like Dennis does when he is misbehaving then don't come crying when you get treated in not the way you want. Too many time people seem to think they can act whatever way they want and then expect to get treated with honor and respect. I know this whole "me" generation is about entitlement but it's a lot better for you to learn now that aint how it works in the real world. Man up, apologize and lets all move on? Please?

Baron
      
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Re:Acedopeman Cheater Mon, 24 August 2009 22:37
I would love to move on and I would love to be able to regain the trust of others so i will apologize for the way I have acted and I am sorry for the trouble I have put others through?

Anyway

Sorry,

Ace

ps truck i look forward to the best of 9
      
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Re:Acedopeman Cheater Tue, 25 August 2009 00:02
lets wait the number of team registering in NC.

If we are 25, you will know Boards decision Twisted Evil
      
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Re:Acedopeman Cheater Tue, 25 August 2009 08:15
TD acemandopeSTW wrote on Mon, 24 August 2009 10:37

I would love to move on and I would love to be able to regain the trust of others so i will apologize for the way I have acted and I am sorry for the trouble I have put others through?

Anyway

Sorry,

Ace

ps truck i look forward to the best of 9


These "general" apologies for the way people have "acted" and for "trouble you have put people through" are stupid and worthless. (especially with a question mark added at the end)

If you really want to move on and gain the trust of others then I suggest you come FULLY and COMPLETELY clean. This means everything, is in detail and be SPECIFIC. (yes even the stuff you think no one knows about).

IF you are willing to do that (and I tend to doubt you and your brother really are) then you can have my forgiveness and I'll extend my trust to you from that momemnt forward.

Oh and you also have to include a committment of not trying to do anything more that even hints of being shady and to stop enabling Dennis.

Now although I don't think you will be willing to actually take these true steps, let me express how much that I HOPE you really do. You are a smart kid and have a lot of potential. If you however,can just control your "inner punk" I think we would all be happier Laughing Laughing

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Re:Acedopeman Cheater Thu, 27 August 2009 21:57
I am trying to get a grasp on this thread as it relates to the NC. (I notice the thread has had 4000 views. Which is an amazing number.)
I recognize the thread started because Ace has made some foolish mistakes in regards mostly to his brother's account. Those were being dealt with. (Yes ace, I trust you, but have to admit I am wary like others of the spartan account.)

NOW with regard to NC: I am concerned with how the other 5 members of Team Dope will be unfairly penalized should some people work to keep this team out. I play with these 5 often on American nighttime play hours. These are good, fun people. Do not lump them in because they choose to play on an NC team. I am excited they are playing this year.

So if this is the concern, rather than stripping the team from NC, perhaps one of those 5 can be captain, with Ace and spartan on the team. I do not mean this needs to happen, I am just saying it would be a compromise if needed. I do not have a problem with Ace, just ask him to be wiser into the future.

[Updated on: Thu, 27 August 2009 21:57]

      
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Re:Acedopeman Cheater Thu, 27 August 2009 23:16
I subscribe to what what was said by onyx.

But to me it was quite clear we played against dennis in feud...

As i don't want to be fooled again, i just want spartan's account to be withdrawn from TD's team.

If I asked for the whole TD's team ban, it was just to get truth from Ace...Still missing a part, but t's in a good way.

And it wasn't a lucky streak...
      
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Re:Acedopeman Cheater Fri, 28 August 2009 19:42
A simple question:

Ace do you speak any German?
      
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Re:Acedopeman Cheater Tue, 01 September 2009 18:45
theKid wrote on Fri, 28 August 2009 13:42

A simple question:

Ace do you speak any German?


Hmm, interesting. The dope can play and answer in other threads but can't answer this simple little question.
      
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