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SirWillibald
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Terrain 65 - Balkas - What's that? Thu, 26 November 2009 07:24
Just received my copy of Stalingrad, looks great, but I'd really like to know what "Balkas" are?

I can imagine something by looking at the artwork, but I've never heard the name and can't find anything about it (and don't have a clue how to translate this for the german version, which of course shouldn't be your problem...).
      
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Re:Terrain 65 - Balkas - What's that? Thu, 26 November 2009 10:13
Balkas are a new terrain type and are explained in this thread:

http://www.daysofwonder.com/en/msg/?goto=176081#msg_176081

So there's no explanation in the Sword of Stalingrad expansion then?
      
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Re:Terrain 65 - Balkas - What's that? Thu, 26 November 2009 14:09
Achtung Panzer wrote on Thu, 26 November 2009 10:13

Balkas are a new terrain type and are explained in this thread:

http://www.daysofwonder.com/en/msg/?goto=176081#msg_176081

So there's no explanation in the Sword of Stalingrad expansion then?



Is the word balka a russian word and thus not familiar to speakers of theEenglish language or is the terrain type found only in or around Stalingrad?
OR are there a more common way to name the terrain type outside of Russia?

I had never noticed the word before reading about it here, and then I read about it again shortly after while reading Antony Beevor's Stalingrad book.
Good book, by the way.
      
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Re:Terrain 65 - Balkas - What's that? Thu, 26 November 2009 14:54
ad79 wrote on Thu, 26 November 2009 16:09

Achtung Panzer wrote on Thu, 26 November 2009 10:13

Balkas are a new terrain type and are explained in this thread:

http://www.daysofwonder.com/en/msg/?goto=176081#msg_176081

So there's no explanation in the Sword of Stalingrad expansion then?



Is the word balka a russian word and thus not familiar to speakers of theEenglish language or is the terrain type found only in or around Stalingrad?
OR are there a more common way to name the terrain type outside of Russia?

I had never noticed the word before reading about it here, and then I read about it again shortly after while reading Antony Beevor's Stalingrad book.
Good book, by the way.


Ad79, you are correctly right. The word "Balka" is Russian word. I'd name it in English as a Shallow Gully.
BalkaS is the plural in English language but from russian word "Balka" Very Happy If you could say it in Russian, it sounded as "Balki".
Short lesson of Russian language Wink

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Re:Terrain 65 - Balkas - What's that? Thu, 26 November 2009 20:09
THX to all of you, that helps though we'll still have to think about the correct article in german... English is really a much simpler language, you guys just call it "the balka" or "a balka" and that's it... I'm really envious... Crying or Very Sad

Achtung Panzer schrieb am Thu, 26 November 2009 10:13


So there's no explanation in the Sword of Stalingrad expansion then?


Well, couldn't find anything...
      
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Re:Terrain 65 - Balkas - What's that? Fri, 27 November 2009 00:09
Maybe you didn't look carefully enough Very Happy

For there is a summary card for the balka, included the deck of summary cards that comes with Sword of Stalingrad. Rolling Eyes
      
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Re:Terrain 65 - Balkas - What's that? Fri, 27 November 2009 04:16
eric wrote on Thu, 26 November 2009 15:09

Maybe you didn't look carefully enough Very Happy

For there is a summary card for the balka, included the deck of summary cards that comes with Sword of Stalingrad. Rolling Eyes


I don't have it in front of me, but I believe there is also a Summary Card printed on the map like most of the pre-printed maps. Smile
      
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Re:Terrain 65 - Balkas - What's that? Fri, 27 November 2009 07:13
I have it in front of mine and there are the reference card along with and printed one on a map.
So we have clear rules for it Wink
Above I just talked about Balka in real Russian landscape.

      
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Re:Terrain 65 - Balkas - What's that? Fri, 27 November 2009 07:36
eric schrieb am Fri, 27 November 2009 00:09

Maybe you didn't look carefully enough Very Happy

For there is a summary card for the balka, included the deck of summary cards that comes with Sword of Stalingrad. Rolling Eyes

Well, of course I found the card, it wasn't too difficult. Very Happy

Just thought Achtung Panzer wanted to know if there is any other hint about what a balka is, but beside the card there's nothing - which is no problem for me at all, just being curious.

[Updated on: Fri, 27 November 2009 13:56]

      
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Re:Terrain 65 - Balkas - What's that? Fri, 27 November 2009 11:53
SirWillibald wrote on Thu, 26 November 2009 20:09

THX to all of you, that helps though we'll still have to think about the correct article in german... English is really a much simpler language, you guys just call it "the balka" or "a balka" and that's it... I'm really envious... Crying or Very Sad


Well...
maybe this article will help you Cool
http://www.62vgd.com/RK_Mannschaften.htm
It is from a book about how Obergefreiter Fritz Mette received the Iron Cross.

It includes this sentence:
Die tief gezogenen Balkas (Mulden) wurden hier immer wieder vom Feind zum Einsickern in die deutschen Frontstellungen genutzt; teils gelang es ihm durch die Balkas unbemerkt Panzer durchzuschleusen, die dann im Rücken auftauchten und für große Verwirrung sorgten.

... some times even the German language can be easy Very Happy

[Updated on: Fri, 27 November 2009 11:54]

      
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Re:Terrain 65 - Balkas - What's that? Fri, 27 November 2009 13:55
GreatDane schrieb am Fri, 27 November 2009 11:53

SirWillibald wrote on Thu, 26 November 2009 20:09

THX to all of you, that helps though we'll still have to think about the correct article in german... English is really a much simpler language, you guys just call it "the balka" or "a balka" and that's it... I'm really envious... Crying or Very Sad


Well...
maybe this article will help you Cool
http://www.62vgd.com/RK_Mannschaften.htm
It is from a book about how Obergefreiter Fritz Mette received the Iron Cross.

It includes this sentence:
Die tief gezogenen Balkas (Mulden) wurden hier immer wieder vom Feind zum Einsickern in die deutschen Frontstellungen genutzt; teils gelang es ihm durch die Balkas unbemerkt Panzer durchzuschleusen, die dann im Rücken auftauchten und für große Verwirrung sorgten.

... some times even the German language can be easy Very Happy


Wow, Dane, that really helps! My feeling told me to go with a female article, but thanks a lot for the confirmation.

[Updated on: Fri, 27 November 2009 13:55]

      
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Re:Terrain 65 - Balkas - What's that? Wed, 30 December 2009 05:40
http://static.daysofwonder.com/uploads/userpages/420028/_2955_web.jpg

If the INF moves onto railway-bridge on balkas, must they stop, or can they move further, because they did not startet from a gully hex?
      
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Re:Terrain 65 - Balkas - What's that? Wed, 30 December 2009 05:53
The infantry is never on the Balka - it's only on plain ground and the railroad bridge.

The Balka card says that a unit may move directly from the Balka to a railroad bridge, but must then stop moving. It doesn't restrict the movement of units moving from other terrain to a bridge over a Balka.

There are no special notes concerning the railroad bridge in the scenario (Sword of Stalingrad).

The Railroad Bridge card specifies that infantry movement is normal. However, we did miss one detail. Unlike regular bridges, railroad bridge hexes may only be entered and exited through the adjacent track hex (or the Balka). So for that reason, the infantry wouldn't be allowed to move beyond the bridge.

It didn't matter in the game. He rolled a star. The dice are very wise.

[Updated on: Wed, 30 December 2009 05:54]

      
    
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