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sam1812
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Removing Wire Sun, 24 January 2010 06:51
Two Allied infantries advance toward a 2-figure German infantry. The first steps on a mine and the second moves into wire. The first unit rolls 2d and destroys the German unit. Can the second now decide to remove the wire? Or must the decision about wire be made during the movement phase?

I've always taken for granted that the decision must be made during movement but, when I checked, I found that the rule is in the paragraph on Battle: "Battle: ... An Infantry unit that is eligible to battle may remove the Wire instead of battling."

Can that decision really be made after seeing how the other attacks turned out?
      
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Re:Removing Wire Sun, 24 January 2010 07:13
i should say that it's possible to remove wire after the others have battled, no restriction to that because it's in one phase

like in a real life situation, if a unit approached a wire, they can wait until the other friendly group open fired and when their friends said cleared, they just simply cut the wire and advance, otherwise they can concentrate on attacking the hostiles

and how about if an engineer steps to a mine, can he decide later after his teammates has battled, whether he wants to battle or remove mine ? i also should say, yes he can

what do you guys think ?

      
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Re:Removing Wire Sun, 24 January 2010 07:20
When it comes to engineers entering mine fields, there is no choice. The rules say, "An Engineer unit that moves onto a Minefield hex and is eligible to battle must clear the Minefield hex instead of battling."
      
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Re:Removing Wire Sun, 24 January 2010 07:52
aah okay, thanks sam Smile
      
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Re:Removing Wire Sun, 24 January 2010 08:09
sam1812 wrote on Sun, 24 January 2010 06:51

Two Allied infantries advance toward a 2-figure German infantry. The first steps on a mine and the second moves into wire. The first unit rolls 2d and destroys the German unit. Can the second now decide to remove the wire? Or must the decision about wire be made during the movement phase?

I've always taken for granted that the decision must be made during movement but, when I checked, I found that the rule is in the paragraph on Battle: "Battle: ... An Infantry unit that is eligible to battle may remove the Wire instead of battling."

Can that decision really be made after seeing how the other attacks turned out?


Attacks are resolved in the order you choose, so if you wait with the unit in wire, and the Germans get elliminated, you can either 1. attack another target or 2. remove wire.
So yes, you can wait and see, and then decide.
      
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Re:Removing Wire Sun, 24 January 2010 12:46
Sam,
If the objective for that unit's attack is solely to remove the wire, than doing so during the movement phase makes sense.

If his objective is to possibly assist in the adjoining battle then it makes sense to wait and see how the other battle comes out.

I think, as you do, that since it is considered a BATTLE ACTION that it could just as well happen in the battle phase.

I think the habit of removing the wire in the movement phase is purely a matter of convenience in game play and has not been applied strategically as you have demonstrated.

[Updated on: Sun, 24 January 2010 12:49]

      
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Re:Removing Wire Sun, 24 January 2010 13:33
stevens wrote on Sun, 24 January 2010 11:46

I think the habit of removing the wire in the movement phase is purely a matter of convenience in game play and has not been applied strategically as you have demonstrated.


One idea is to turn the wire 90 degrees in the hex as a reminder that the infantry have the option of removing instead of battling. This helps when deciding the order in which your units battle.
      
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Re:Removing Wire Sun, 24 January 2010 15:16
Gee -- it sounds like everybody knew the answer but me on that one. Embarassed
      
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Re:Removing Wire Sun, 24 January 2010 16:12
Knowing the answer and using it to your advantage strategically in gameplay are two different things!!
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