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Reflections of Memoir '44 Online Mon, 07 June 2010 15:46
There was a call for me to provide some information on the newly revealed Memoir '44 Online system that was unveiled in the predawn hours of June 6, 2010. I will share some of my thoughts, though by agreement there are some aspects of the game that we have been asked not to disclose; we will not be sharing any screen shots (that will be done by DoW themselves) and we cannot comment on the cost of the game (we don't know what it will eventually cost each player and it would be counterproductive to speculate). Other than those two things, I'm eager to share my reflections after a few times of hitting the beaches of Normandy with Memoir '44 Online!

As one last disclaimer, I should warn everyone reading this that I am not a critical man by nature (some of you may already know this). I have made no secret that I think very highly of Eric Hautemont and the Days of Wonder team so these thoughts will mostly be positive because that's what I see! If you're looking for a critique of the new online game, your reading from the wrong guy, but I will be honest about what I see and notice. Smile

The first thing that stuck me when I installed this program was that the load screen has new artwork! As the program loads, you get to look at what looks like concept sketches of various World War II tanks. Once you're in, you have to log in to your Days of Wonder account and from then on it addresses you by your user name. Once in the game players will have lots of options to choose from (including settings, game types, and your service record) all represented by familiar and iconic Memoir '44 images from the board game. Rolling Eyes

There are three modes you can play in: solo play, normal play, and expert mode. As might be obvious from the name you can play alone (against an AI) in solo play. Normal play is what most people will want to participate in and I'll talk more about that later. Expert mode or advanced play will mostly be for extreme fans of Memoir '44 or people who want to use their own house rules and test the scenarios of their own design. In solo and normal play the rules of Memoir '44 are strictly enforced by the computer but from what I've seen of expert mode, anything goes (allowing custom rules, scenarios, victory conditions, etc).

Normal play behaves very much like the online version of Ticket to Ride with Karma points, ranking systems, leader boards, in-game-chats, scenarios to choose from, open games to join and closed games to observe, and of course the list of players who are online. One exciting addition to Memoir '44 over Ticket to Ride is that players will advance through the military rank system of the nation they want to represent, starting as cadets and rising due to victories! Also, based on your performance during a scenario in normal play you can earn achievements and medals! It adds excitement and flavor to the whole system!!

So once you've chosen the mode of play you want (solo, normal, expert) and after you choose the battle you want to try and the opponent you feel like pummeling, it's time to start your first online game of Memoir '44!! When the map loads, it has a distinct Memoir '44 feel. I never played Vassal (though some friends and acquaintances tried to get me onto it) so I don't have that to compare with, but you'll feel like you're playing on the little maps you see online when you look at the scenarios. All the terrain is placed for you (including the labels for significant towns, rivers, etc) and the troops and obstacles are ready to go. The graphics are great, with stylized 3D troops and hedgehogs/barbed wire/sandbags set around a great board (see the screenshot for a little preview of what it looks like). Your cards are laid out in front of you and you can see how many cards your opponent has.

Game play follows the same sequence as a normal game (choose card, select troops to order, move them, attack, draw new card) but you have to be paying attention because the online version enforces tournament rules: if you move it, you can't take it back! When you're ready to attack, the dice are rolled on the board and the results are applied with a little explosion showing any hits;retreat flags are applied and your opponent still gets to choose where to retreat. In short, you feel like you are playing the actual board game but it's on the computer screen and has sweet little graphics to go with it! Razz

After someone wins the battle, the screen switches to a Battle Report and you can review information like how many medals each team got, each player's ranking, the casualties the teams suffered of each type of unit, the number of turns the game took and how long it lasted. If you're playing in normal mode you can also write a little AAR to describe in narrative what happened in the game.

Like everyone has been hoping, Days of Wonder has done a wonderful job designing and executing this project! The graphics are consistent with the game and have a very distinct "board game" feel (this is not Call of Duty with battle dice!) and the rules are all strictly enforced so I don't foresee a lot of arguments about "unfair" play. Playing time is much faster than if you're playing traditionally and you'll be able to play against international opponents so there should never be a lack of enemies to battle! To prepare for the release of this great new way to play Memoir '44 I can only give you one piece of advice;play as many traditional battles as you can with your sets of Memoir '44 because this online system is the exact same! It has been worth the wait and will be just what you were hoping for!

Sorry this is so long! Laughing I also realize that this turned into more of an overview of the system instead of reflections, but I hope it's still useful. Cool I'm sure other beta testers will have more to add and I will share other reflections as I have them!
      
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Re:Reflections of Memoir '44 Online Mon, 07 June 2010 16:54
Questions: how can we load our own scenarios in expert game mode? Can we use the editor for this purpose? Can we make specific victory conditions (like Sudden Death)?

And what do you suggest for earning a higher rank: playing official scenarios or custom made scenarios? Very Happy

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Re:Reflections of Memoir '44 Online Mon, 07 June 2010 17:06
nemesszili wrote on Mon, 07 June 2010 07:54

Questions: how can we load our own scenarios in expert game mode? Can we use the editor for this purpose? Can we make specific victory conditions (like Sudden Death)?

And what do you suggest for earning a higher rank: playing official scenarios or custom made scenarios? Very Happy


Good questions. I'll answer your second one because I know the answer to that one: You can only improve your rank by playing official scenarios against other players online. Just like with the Ticket to Ride online game you can play solo games but they don't improve your ranking! Custom scenarios also won't count because I could just create one with the victory condition of "rasmussen81" wins, or something like that to pad my score! Laughing

As for expert mode, I haven't tried it out yet (I've been having too much fun with solo and normal, and it's only been out one day!). However, from what I understand you will be able to create custom rules like Sudden Death or 50 medals to win and you will have to build your scenarios using the Scenario Editor. I assume it will be a system of uploading the map you created but another beta tester who has tried this might be able to shed more light on it.

I hope that helps! Cool

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Re:Reflections of Memoir '44 Online Mon, 07 June 2010 17:18
nemesszili wrote on Mon, 07 June 2010 16:54

Questions: how can we load our own scenarios in expert game mode? Can we use the editor for this purpose?

Yes you will be able use the Expert mode to play with your friends the scenarios that you designed with the Memoir '44 Editor Very Happy

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Re:Reflections of Memoir '44 Online Mon, 07 June 2010 20:03
When playing in normal mode (if you create the game) can you choose which expansion packs to use, or do they come automatically with the scenario?

If the latter do you get the option of using (for instance) air rules?

Does it use a Commissar chip with the Eastern Front?


This is more exciting than Christmas...................and I am 49 years old!! Very Happy
      
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Re:Reflections of Memoir '44 Online Mon, 07 June 2010 20:10
There are no expansions supported in the current version, in Player vs Player (or Solo Play) mode. For the time being and for the initial release, only the base game scenarios (ie the 16 scenarios that come with the base game) are supported in these modes.

The reason is that every single time you have the slightest new rule in a scenario, it need to be coded entirely before that game can be played in these two modes. So it will take a while for us before we can fully support all base game scenarios and all play options of the physical game.

This is also why we included an Expert mode that lets you play any scenario (but doesn't enforce the rules).

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Re:Reflections of Memoir '44 Online Mon, 07 June 2010 20:16
And yes, for those scenarios that are already coded and that contain special units or special rules, you can usually decide whether you play with them or not though some special rules might be compulsory (ie not turnable off).

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Re:Reflections of Memoir '44 Online Mon, 07 June 2010 20:24
While this online version is clearly a board game, the amazing men and women of DoW who worked on this included some fun animations and graphics that add to the online experience. Very Happy

The thing I appreciate about all of the graphics is that they aren't gimmicky or over-the-top. The graphics don't draw your attention so much that they overpower the 'board game' feel, but they remind you that you're playing a computer version of your favorite war game! Razz Below is a list of the graphics that are part of the game at this point. There may be more that I'm forgetting and there may be more added before the end of beta testing, but for now these items add to the enjoyment of the system!

Your Turn - A military-looking banner clangs across the screen announcing that it's your turn!

Hits - any time a unit receives a hit (through a symbol roll, retreat flag that can't be completed, Air Power star being rolled) there is a little explosion and the appropriate number of figures disappear.

Targeting - during the attack phase, after you select a unit to attack with, spinning target markers appear around all of the possible targets! Yellow targets indicate you will be able to roll 1 battle die. Orange indicates 2 battle dice, red indicates 3 battle dice.

Firing Arrows - When you choose who to attack, you click and drag from the attacking unit to your target. A line of moving arrows trace the trajectory of the unit you're attacking with (straight for Armor and Infantry, arched for Artillery). The arrows are the same color as the Targeting marker described above and the arrows act as Line of Sight gauge as well (though the computer won't let you target a unit that is out of your LOS).

Rolling Dice - The computer rolls the dice next to the unit being attacked. Very nice dice!

Standing in Wire - if a unit moves into wire and decides to attack (instead of removing it, in which case the wire just disappears) a little icon appears of wire cutters to remind you that you're in wire and will suffer a -1 die reduction.

Getting a Medal - When the last figure of a unit is eliminated or someone enters an objective hex, the medal (figure or token) flies to the front center of the screen and clinks onto a medal spot. It then flies down to the medal stand area where you can see how many medals each side has.

As you can see the graphics are not the main part of the game! They simply add to the experience and remind you that you're playing online. Smile

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Re:Reflections of Memoir '44 Online Mon, 07 June 2010 22:49
eric wrote on Mon, 07 June 2010 19:10

There are no expansions supported in the current version,



So I am guessing it might eventually work similar to TTR onlne, where you buy the base pack, then later on you will be able to buy expansions?

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Re:Reflections of Memoir '44 Online Tue, 08 June 2010 05:01
Does anyone have questions about Memoir '44 Online that we can share about? Remember, we can't speculate about the cost and we can't share pictures of the game but we can talk about it and answer questions about how it works and plays!! Smile

Maybe my wife was right, my last few posts were too thorough! Laughing
      
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Re:Reflections of Memoir '44 Online Tue, 08 June 2010 07:43
Jesse,

Does it support Overlord scenarios?

      
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Re:Reflections of Memoir '44 Online Tue, 08 June 2010 08:15
MajorOracle wrote on Mon, 07 June 2010 22:43

Jesse,

Does it support Overlord scenarios?




Great question!! Very Happy Thanks.

Overlord is not yet available. The current beta version only includes the normal scenarios from the base game book. So right now we have 16 battles to choose from.

Eric has said that they will continue programing battles (and I can't even begin to imagine how much program work it must take for just a single scenario, let alone something as complex as Overlord) so eventually I imagine all of the battles in all of the formats will be available. Smile It might be a while though.

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Re:Reflections of Memoir '44 Online Tue, 08 June 2010 09:06
rasmussen81 wrote on Mon, 07 June 2010 20:24

Targeting - during the attack phase, after you select a unit to attack with, spinning target markers appear around all of the possible targets! Yellow targets indicate you will be able to roll 1 battle die. Orange indicates 2 battle dice, red indicates 3 battle dice.

Which color is 4 dice (for example close assault with Close Assault card)?

rasmussen81 wrote on Mon, 07 June 2010 20:24

Firing Arrows - When you choose who to attack, you click and drag from the attacking unit to your target. A line of moving arrows trace the trajectory of the unit you're attacking with (straight for Armor and Infantry, arched for Artillery). The arrows are the same color as the Targeting marker described above and the arrows act as Line of Sight gauge as well (though the computer won't let you target a unit that is out of your LOS).

Can you select a target with clicking, or only by dragging? Dragging is fancy but will quickly become cumbersome and annoying.
      
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Re:Reflections of Memoir '44 Online Tue, 08 June 2010 09:36
Anything from 3 dice and up is red.

Click and drag only now.
      
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Re:Reflections of Memoir '44 Online Tue, 08 June 2010 09:48
Does the game support multiple resolutions? Or is it fixed to 1024x768?
      
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Re:Reflections of Memoir '44 Online Tue, 08 June 2010 11:25
bdgza wrote on Tue, 08 June 2010 09:48

Does the game support multiple resolutions? Or is it fixed to 1024x768?

It supports ANY resolutions: you just grow or shrink the window, and the UI and zooms adapts itself automatically. You can do this even while running the software. On my PC, I am playing full size at 1600 x 1200, and it's pretty cool to see all the detailed graphics Smile

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Re:Reflections of Memoir '44 Online Tue, 08 June 2010 12:11
Yann wrote on Tue, 08 June 2010 11:25

bdgza wrote on Tue, 08 June 2010 09:48

Does the game support multiple resolutions? Or is it fixed to 1024x768?

It supports ANY resolutions: you just grow or shrink the window, and the UI and zooms adapts itself automatically. You can do this even while running the software. On my PC, I am playing full size at 1600 x 1200, and it's pretty cool to see all the detailed graphics Smile

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It probably has a lot in coming with the Editor, so I can imagine.
      
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Re:Reflections of Memoir '44 Online Tue, 08 June 2010 13:38
Vulch wrote on Mon, 07 June 2010 13:49

eric wrote on Mon, 07 June 2010 19:10

There are no expansions supported in the current version,



So I am guessing it might eventually work similar to TTR onlne, where you buy the base pack, then later on you will be able to buy expansions?

Cool Very Happy


Actually not. The pricing has nothing in common with T2R Online, but we're not ready to discuss it yet - for the time being we're busy gathering feedback. Very Happy
      
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Re:Reflections of Memoir '44 Online Tue, 08 June 2010 13:41
MajorOracle wrote on Mon, 07 June 2010 22:43

Jesse,

Does it support Overlord scenarios?





For the time being no. By the time version 1.0 ships, we will likely have Overlord scenarios in Expert Mode ( 2 players playing against each other, with the rules not enforced).

Full Overlord support (ie with all the rules enforced and 8 players on the same game) will have to wait until well after that however.
      
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Re:Reflections of Memoir '44 Online Tue, 08 June 2010 13:44
bdgza wrote on Tue, 08 June 2010 03:11

Yann wrote on Tue, 08 June 2010 11:25

bdgza wrote on Tue, 08 June 2010 09:48

Does the game support multiple resolutions? Or is it fixed to 1024x768?

It supports ANY resolutions: you just grow or shrink the window, and the UI and zooms adapts itself automatically. You can do this even while running the software. On my PC, I am playing full size at 1600 x 1200, and it's pretty cool to see all the detailed graphics Smile

Yann

It probably has a lot in common with the Editor, so I can imagine.


Actually it goes well beyond the Scenario Editor, visually speaking. We will try and post a higher resolution screenshot or two later this week or early next.
      
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Re:Reflections of Memoir '44 Online Tue, 08 June 2010 13:57
eric wrote on Tue, 08 June 2010 12:38

Vulch wrote on Mon, 07 June 2010 13:49

eric wrote on Mon, 07 June 2010 19:10

There are no expansions supported in the current version,



So I am guessing it might eventually work similar to TTR onlne, where you buy the base pack, then later on you will be able to buy expansions?

Cool Very Happy


Actually not. The pricing has nothing in common with T2R Online, but we're not ready to discuss it yet - for the time being we're busy gathering feedback. Very Happy



Sorry, I realise you can't discuss pricing. I wasn't fishing, more sort of thinking aloud. Very Happy
      
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Re:Reflections of Memoir '44 Online Tue, 08 June 2010 13:57
eric wrote on Tue, 08 June 2010 13:44

Actually it goes well beyond the Scenario Editor, visually speaking. We will try and post a higher resolution screenshot or two later this week or early next.

Looking forward to that.
      
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Re:Reflections of Memoir '44 Online Wed, 09 June 2010 00:56
i seriously can't contain my excitement about the online game. my game partner (wife) likes TTR better than M44 so i'm always itching to get back into the fight. thanks to all the beta testers for the reports and sneak previews...it sounds like it's gonna be great!
      
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Re:Reflections of Memoir '44 Online Wed, 09 June 2010 21:13
Hi, is there something like a ranking system ?

Will it be possible to play campaigns ?

Could be interesting if users could produce campaigns as well
an post them online !

Or just take some onlinescenarios and build your own campaign
with a few clicks.
      
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Re:Reflections of Memoir '44 Online Wed, 09 June 2010 21:56
hochwald wrote on Wed, 09 June 2010 12:13

Hi, is there something like a ranking system ?


Yes, there is a ranking system similar to the TTR one. I believe I said that in my initial post but it might have gotten lost with such a long narrative. Razz

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Will it be possible to play campaigns ?


Like we've said before, only the base scenarios are available at this point. I imagine eventually the Campaign Book scenarios will be available but we don't know what that will look like.

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Could be interesting if users could produce campaigns as well
an post them online !

Or just take some onlinescenarios and build your own campaign
with a few clicks.


Players can create their own battles and play them online! That's what the whole 'Expert Mode' is for. You build a scenario with the Scenario Editor and then you can play it against someone in Expert Mode.

I'm not sure what you mean when you say that you could "build your own campaign with a few clicks". You could play scenarios in a certain order with your friends but the Campaign System is much more complex than a few clicks... Very Happy
      
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Re:Reflections of Memoir '44 Online Thu, 10 June 2010 21:41
rasmussen81 wrote on Tue, 08 June 2010 04:01

Does anyone have questions about Memoir '44 Online that we can share about?
How does the turn based nature of the game work online? Does a whole game have to be played in one go or can you play a few turns, save the game and log out and pick it back up again in a few days time?

Do both players have to be present and online to play a turn or can one player log in, play a turn and log out. And then the second player log in at a later time and play their turn.

I know that may sound like a slightly perverse way of playing but I'd most likely be playing against my dad who is only free in the mornings, whilst I'm only free in the evenings. Rolling Eyes
      
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Re:Reflections of Memoir '44 Online Thu, 10 June 2010 21:56
Good questions! Thanks for asking them and welcome to the forum!! Smile

Duke Of Earlsfield wrote on Thu, 10 June 2010 12:41

How does the turn based nature of the game work online? Does a whole game have to be played in one go or can you play a few turns, save the game and log out and pick it back up again in a few days time?


The turn base system works really well and very smoothly but you must stay online for the whole game. No logging out and coming back later.

Let's say it's my turn: A banner will flash across the screen that says "Your Turn" and a little icon will appear with a Memoir '44 Airplane in the bottom right corner of the screen. When I choose a card and drag it onto the table, the plane will change to something that says 'Orders' and I click on the units I want to order. My opponent can see the changing icon as well to know what part of my turn I'm in and he (or she) can also watch me select my units because the hex gets a little boarder around it for each unit I choose.

Once I've decided who to order, I click done and it moves into the Movement phase. The little icon changes to let us both know what phase I'm in and I move any units I ordered that I want. After movement is over, I click done again and it takes us to the Battle phase. The Icon changes again and I select the units who can battle and direct their attacks where I want.

After my final battle, the computer will time me out (or I can click done again) and my turn is over. My opponent will see the "Your Turn" banner in his screen and the process repeats itself. It all works very smoothly and feels just like a normal game (but maybe a normal game with a strict tournament judge who knows the rules perfectly and won't let you cheat!).

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Do both players have to be present and online to play a turn or can one player log in, play a turn and log out. And then the second player log in at a later time and play their turn.

I know that may sound like a slightly perverse way of playing but I'd most likely be playing against my dad who is only free in the mornings, whilst I'm only free in the evenings. Rolling Eyes


Memoir '44 Online is all live-play. You have to be online and your opponent has to be online at the same time and you have to play a game clear through in one sitting. So far it's looking like a long battle lasts around 20-30 minutes and my shortest battle (against the computer AI) was 7 minutes and 40 seconds.

At this time you would not be able to play against your dad because you have opposite schedules. Sorry. Confused

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Re:Reflections of Memoir '44 Online Fri, 11 June 2010 02:03
So if your power or internet service blinks off for a moment, you lose your game and can't get back in or re-sync with your opponent? That would be a problem. I don't know about anybody else, but in my house, I occasionally have to unplug and replug the cable modem to get the web to start responding again.

(It would also be something that a dishonorable player could abuse.)

Will there be game logging, so players can save and review their games?

Is PBEM planned?

(By the way, Earlsfield, once you start playing online, you'll have a whole world of opponents available. Don't worry about that.)

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Re:Reflections of Memoir '44 Online Fri, 11 June 2010 02:19
sam1812 wrote on Thu, 10 June 2010 17:03

So if your power or internet service blinks off for a moment, you lose your game and can't get back in or re-sync with your opponent? That would be a problem. I don't know about anybody else, but in my house, I occasionally have to unplug and replug the cable modem to get the web to start responding again.

(It would also be something that a dishonorable player could abuse.)


I don't know much about how these games work, but I do know that there is a "resume" button so I'm sure it's very similar to TTR online in that respect. It's true that dishonorable players will be able to abuse the system but they'll do that no matter what system is in place. There is a Karma system, though, to keep the foul play at a minimum.



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Will there be game logging, so players can save and review their games?

Is PBEM planned?


There have been other threads or posts about this but I can't remember if it's here or on BGG. No PBEM.
      
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Re:Reflections of Memoir '44 Online Fri, 11 June 2010 05:35
sam1812 wrote on Thu, 10 June 2010 17:03

So if your power or internet service blinks off for a moment, you lose your game and can't get back in or re-sync with your opponent? That would be a problem. I don't know about anybody else, but in my house, I occasionally have to unplug and replug the cable modem to get the web to start responding again.


No, the game is not lost. It will be the same as in Ticket to Ride Online and Gang of Four Online. You simply reconnect or reboot within the allotted time and are able to step back in the game. In the meantime the AI takes your place (and if your opponent waits for you you haven't really lost anything.

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(It would also be something that a dishonorable player could abuse.)



No, we have things to take care of this as well, like in our other Online games. With almost 20,000,000 online games already played on our servers, we fortunately learned a few things.

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Will there be game logging, so players can save and review their games?


Yes, though I won't be able to give more details about this for now.

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Is PBEM planned?



No, but this is a lot less an issue than some might think, for reasons that will become obvious as we ramp the game up and open it to a wider crowd.

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(By the way, Earlsfield, once you start playing online, you'll have a whole world of opponents available. Don't worry about that.)


That is very true.
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Re:Reflections of Memoir '44 Online Fri, 11 June 2010 12:01
Sorry if this isn't the proper place to ask this, (Im new to the site), but I'm trying to find out when and where Memoir 44 will be available online ? Im assuming the Days of Wonder site will be hosting it, along with their other online games ... so my real question is: When exactly can we expect to see it available to play!? Smile
      
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Re:Reflections of Memoir '44 Online Fri, 11 June 2010 14:55
Though I'm no member of the DoW high command I'm quite sure that you won't get any exact date out of Eric or anybody else.

Since the program is currently only in it's first beta, I suggest to be patient for the time being.

But from what I've seen so far, you won't be disappointed... Smile
      
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Re:Reflections of Memoir '44 Online Fri, 11 June 2010 16:38
Jaykay2010 écrit le Fri, 11 June 2010 12:01

Sorry if this isn't the proper place to ask this, (Im new to the site), but I'm trying to find out when and where Memoir 44 will be available online ? Im assuming the Days of Wonder site will be hosting it, along with their other online games ... so my real question is: When exactly can we expect to see it available to play!? Smile

See http://www.daysofwonder.com/fr/msg/?th=19665&start=0
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One last thing: there is no need to ask us about release dates and pricing at this point, because in all honesty, we don't know for sure yet. We will post regular updates on this forum as the project matures, however. So stay tuned and in the meantime, sharpen your playing skills with the board game, as you will eventually have a whole new world of opponents to confront!


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Re:Reflections of Memoir '44 Online Mon, 14 June 2010 23:14
I have a question but I don't know if anyone will be able to answer it. If I buy access to the game, will my son be able to play as well? Or will I have to buy him his own account?

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Re:Reflections of Memoir '44 Online Mon, 14 June 2010 23:24
It depends. If you want to play together at the same time, you will each need one account. If you don't mind him playing on your account (with the implications that his games will count toward your ranking, etc...), at different times than you, then a single account will be fine.

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