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World War Two Days (Pic Heavy) Sun, 26 September 2010 19:27
Every year, Rockford, IL hosts a huge WW2 reenactment called World War Two Days. It's at a big facility and features skirmishes in the town and woods, as well as several large-scale battles in a nearby field with artillery, armor, and even a spotter plane. Here are a couple of pics -- maybe useful as a tool for those of you who paint your pieces?

A German Hetzer
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Re:World War Two Days (Pic Heavy) Sun, 26 September 2010 19:34
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American troops advancing behind a Sherman
      
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Re:World War Two Days (Pic Heavy) Sun, 26 September 2010 19:36
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Re:World War Two Days (Pic Heavy) Sun, 26 September 2010 19:38
You can't see it, but I'm sure there's a copy of Memoir '44 on the table in front of them... Smile
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A Russian squad preparing to ambush an approaching German column.
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Re:World War Two Days (Pic Heavy) Sun, 26 September 2010 19:41
Wow. Very cool!! Thanks for sharing. So which one of those guys was you?! Very Happy
      
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Re:World War Two Days (Pic Heavy) Sun, 26 September 2010 19:45
rasmussen81 wrote on Sun, 26 September 2010 13:41

Wow. Very cool!! Thanks for sharing. So which one of those guys was you?! Very Happy


Ha! -- I'd love to do reenactments, but it's a really expensive hobby...it might cut into my M44 budget... Shocked
      
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Re:World War Two Days (Pic Heavy) Sun, 26 September 2010 19:52
OldBloodandGuts wrote on Sun, 26 September 2010 10:45

rasmussen81 wrote on Sun, 26 September 2010 13:41

Wow. Very cool!! Thanks for sharing. So which one of those guys was you?! Very Happy


Ha! -- I'd love to do reenactments, but it's a really expensive hobby...it might cut into my M44 budget... Shocked


Yes, you wouldn't want that...especially with the Memoir '44 Online game in the works and any other expansions they're working on!

So does everyone have to buy all their own gear?! That would add up quickly. Looks like fun though. Cool
      
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Re:World War Two Days (Pic Heavy) Sun, 26 September 2010 20:02
They do all buy their own gear -- and most units are very picky about what they can buy. For example, if you're representing a unit from 1943, all your gear must be replica or restored from 1943 or earlier. A decent uniform and helmet can easily run you $500, and double that for your standard, firing M1 Garand replica.

I priced it out a year or two, because I was thinking about "enlisting" with one of these groups, and I think I had it figured at just under $2,000 to get started. And that didn't count ammo (blanks) and other expenses that you'd incur over a summer of reenacting in the region/nation.

But it goes to show how passionate these guys (and sometimes girls) are about preserving the memory of WW2, and teaching it to new generations. The first time I went, I thought it would be a bunch of war porn -- old men with too much money and time on their hands running around playing guns and pretending to be in Band of Brothers. But they're very serious about the historic elements. I asked a question in a German HQ about the Enigma machine replica, and got a ten minute speech about Enigma and how it changed over the course of the war. Very cool.
      
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Re:World War Two Days (Pic Heavy) Sun, 26 September 2010 20:09
Cool pictures, and I couldnt help but thinking that that in the picture about the russian unit ambushing the germans, the one person in the middle reminded of me of the actor who played the president (Theodore Roosevelt?) in "Night at the Museam" Laughing

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Re:World War Two Days (Pic Heavy) Sun, 26 September 2010 20:56
To Old blood and guts: Thanks for sharing, this really looks cool, something I would like to see. Do you know what the admission is and what the dates will be for next year? Thanks again for the pics.
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Re:World War Two Days (Pic Heavy) Sun, 26 September 2010 21:33
How much would a functioning Sherman be?

If the tank guys also have to buy their own stuff. Razz
      
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Re:World War Two Days (Pic Heavy) Sun, 26 September 2010 23:23
Funlerz wrote on Sun, 26 September 2010 20:09

Cool pictures, and I couldnt help but thinking that that in the picture about the russian unit ambushing the germans, the one person in the middle reminded of me of the actor who played the president (Theodore Roosevelt?) in "Night at the Museam" Laughing




Acted by the talented Mr Robin Williams ...
      
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Re:World War Two Days (Pic Heavy) Mon, 27 September 2010 06:26
These were awesome pics, thanks so much!
      
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Re:World War Two Days (Pic Heavy) Mon, 27 September 2010 14:26
@ 5 Star: Admission this year was $10 per person. I'm not sure what the date is for next year, but it's usually on the last weekend in September. If you Google WW2 Days in Rockford, IL, I bet you find some info.

@ad: No idea what a functioning Sherman goes for, but I know it's above my pay grade! I don't know the details on how individuals or private reenactment groups pay for the replica armor or artillery, but if you looked up reenactment websites, you could probably find out more.
      
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Re:World War Two Days (Pic Heavy) Fri, 01 October 2010 06:18
ad79 wrote on Sun, 26 September 2010 12:33

How much would a functioning Sherman be?

If the tank guys also have to buy their own stuff. Razz



http://www.armyjeeps.net/armor1.htm


$595,000USD and a flight to Normandy France will get you a 1943 Sherman M4-A1 Duplex Drive (look half way down the page)

$249,900USD and a flight to Hawaii will get you a 1944 M5A1 Stuart Light Tank




      
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Re:World War Two Days (Pic Heavy) Fri, 01 October 2010 06:25
PanzerRunes wrote on Thu, 30 September 2010 21:18

ad79 wrote on Sun, 26 September 2010 12:33

How much would a functioning Sherman be?

If the tank guys also have to buy their own stuff. Razz



http://www.armyjeeps.net/armor1.htm


$595,000USD and a flight to Normandy France will get you a 1943 Sherman M4-A1 Duplex Drive (look half way down the page)

$249,900USD and a flight to Hawaii will get you a 1944 M5A1 Stuart Light Tank


Wow!! The first tank on the list is a mear $219,000USD and they'll ship it to you for free in the 48 Continental States...I can't even imagine how much it would cost to ship something that big!! Razz

If I ever win the lottery it would be very cool to get one. Very Happy
      
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Re:World War Two Days (Pic Heavy) Fri, 01 October 2010 06:40
rasmussen81 wrote on Thu, 30 September 2010 21:25

PanzerRunes wrote on Thu, 30 September 2010 21:18

ad79 wrote on Sun, 26 September 2010 12:33

How much would a functioning Sherman be?

If the tank guys also have to buy their own stuff. Razz



http://www.armyjeeps.net/armor1.htm


$595,000USD and a flight to Normandy France will get you a 1943 Sherman M4-A1 Duplex Drive (look half way down the page)

$249,900USD and a flight to Hawaii will get you a 1944 M5A1 Stuart Light Tank


Wow!! The first tank on the list is a mear $219,000USD and they'll ship it to you for free in the 48 Continental States...I can't even imagine how much it would cost to ship something that big!! Razz

If I ever win the lottery it would be very cool to get one. Very Happy


Hard to imagine calling a Stuart a big thing... LOL
      
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Re:World War Two Days (Pic Heavy) Fri, 01 October 2010 23:03
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Wow!! The first tank on the list is a mear $219,000USD and they'll ship it to you for free in the 48 Continental States...I can't even imagine how much it would cost to ship something that big!! Razz



Free super-saver shipping on your purchase!
      
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Re:World War Two Days (Pic Heavy) Sun, 03 October 2010 12:53
Wow, that looks great, thanks for sharing! I live only a few hours away in Jacksonville, IL so I will definitely make the trip next year.
      
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Re:World War Two Days (Pic Heavy) Sun, 03 October 2010 13:17
Great Pictures, looks like a great event. My wife and Myself (well mainly me) are hoping to get to TankFest next year at Bovington to see the displays and get to look at the only remaining tiger 1 in operation.

I would love to be able to buy a tank, if only to ring up an insurance company and see what sort of quote they would give me Smile
      
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Re:World War Two Days (Pic Heavy) Sun, 03 October 2010 13:17
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$249,900USD and a flight to Hawaii will get you a 1944 M5A1 Stuart Light Tank



And it even has the Correct First Aid kit. Can't go wrong with this one.Laughing

Stig Morten

PS: I think I'll use the tank funds for boardgames instead.
      
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Re:World War Two Days (Pic Heavy) Tue, 12 October 2010 11:59
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I would love to be able to buy a tank, if only to ring up an insurance company and see what sort of quote they would give me Smile


Ha,ha -- I wonder how many drivers would tailgate me if I was in a Sherman. Then if someone did rear-end me -- umm, did I feel a tap -- I dismount -- look over the offending vehicle (a totaled Caddy Escalade just for fun) and then say to the other driver -- look -- man,you nicked my tank's paint Laughing


      
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Re:World War Two Days (Pic Heavy) Tue, 12 October 2010 12:12
Forget the Shermans -- where did that Hetzer come from? That piece of German armor must be worth a pretty penny due to its extreme rarity.

I assume all the vehicles are "runners".

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Re:World War Two Days (Pic Heavy) Tue, 12 October 2010 17:17
Not sure what a "runner" is -- if you mean the old Hollywood trick of putting a paper mache chassis over a tracked vehicle, then no. The recreators are very strict about allowing only rebuilt and replica equipment, from the uniforms to the cartridge belts to the rifles to the vehicles. For example, there was a Porsche truck (not pictured) that was one of only four still in existence in the world.

The Sherman, if I remember correctly, was assembled mostly from surplus parts left over after the war. So it never saw action in the war as a tank, but parts of it may have.

I don't know if that's a "runner" or not. Smile

      
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Re:World War Two Days (Pic Heavy) Tue, 12 October 2010 18:54
OldBloodandGuts wrote on Tue, 12 October 2010 16:17

The recreators are very strict about allowing only rebuilt and replica equipment, from the uniforms to the cartridge belts to the rifles to the vehicles. For example, there was a Porsche truck (not pictured) that was one of only four still in existence in the world.


I think that they do make the practical concession of having modern, more efficient engines though.
      
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Re:World War Two Days (Pic Heavy) Tue, 12 October 2010 19:25
I think that varies by vehicle -- I know a lot of the motorcycles are not modern engines -- but don't quote me on that.
      
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Re:World War Two Days (Pic Heavy) Tue, 12 October 2010 22:11
OldBloodandGuts wrote on Tue, 12 October 2010 18:25

I think that varies by vehicle -- I know a lot of the motorcycles are not modern engines -- but don't quote me on that.


Yeah, I was thinking about the heavier vehicles and tanks. They're not known for good mpg!
      
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Re:World War Two Days (Pic Heavy) Tue, 12 October 2010 22:19
OldBloodandGuts wrote on Tue, 12 October 2010 11:17

Not sure what a "runner" is -- if you mean the old Hollywood trick of putting a paper mache chassis over a tracked vehicle, then no. The recreators are very strict about allowing only rebuilt and replica equipment, from the uniforms to the cartridge belts to the rifles to the vehicles. For example, there was a Porsche truck (not pictured) that was one of only four still in existence in the world.

The Sherman, if I remember correctly, was assembled mostly from surplus parts left over after the war. So it never saw action in the war as a tank, but parts of it may have.

I don't know if that's a "runner" or not. Smile





A "runner" is a military vehicle that basically is able to move under its own power and pretty much functions like it did when active except perhaps to fire its guns -- esp the main cannon. I am sure there are strict govt regs on that.

This is opposed to an permanent stationary exhibit piece.

I know Ft Knox, Ky does have some WW II runners - now that is living history for you.
      
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Re:World War Two Days (Pic Heavy) Tue, 12 October 2010 23:27
tank commander wrote on Tue, 12 October 2010 16:19

OldBloodandGuts wrote on Tue, 12 October 2010 11:17

Not sure what a "runner" is -- if you mean the old Hollywood trick of putting a paper mache chassis over a tracked vehicle, then no. The recreators are very strict about allowing only rebuilt and replica equipment, from the uniforms to the cartridge belts to the rifles to the vehicles. For example, there was a Porsche truck (not pictured) that was one of only four still in existence in the world.

The Sherman, if I remember correctly, was assembled mostly from surplus parts left over after the war. So it never saw action in the war as a tank, but parts of it may have.

I don't know if that's a "runner" or not. Smile





A "runner" is a military vehicle that basically is able to move under its own power and pretty much functions like it did when active except perhaps to fire its guns -- esp the main cannon. I am sure there are strict govt regs on that.

This is opposed to an permanent stationary exhibit piece.

I know Ft Knox, Ky does have some WW II runners - now that is living history for you.


Ahhhhh...so I wasn't even close. Embarassed

Yes, everything operated; there were no display pieces. I've actually got a picture of the Sherman carrying back several reenactors through the crowd to their encampment. Tanks and artillery pieces fired blanks, as did all infantry weapons.
      
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Re:World War Two Days (Pic Heavy) Wed, 13 October 2010 16:31
The Hetzer may be the one from Camp Mabry here in Austin. And yes it runs, and they use it all the time when they go out to camp Swift to run around in the woods going pew pew at each other...

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