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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Thu, 30 September 2010 21:58
I am past fed up. I have agreed to play and yet he won't commit. For those of you who think I am wrong, you are out of your mind. His behavior is a joke and shouldn't be tolerated.
    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Thu, 30 September 2010 22:45
you play with word : play 10 pm for 10 pm ? why no play at 4pm for 4pm ? you are a coward but chance was with you today... and when you talk (18 min) you have time to play 2 game but... you are right : i'm a bad guy and i don't want play !

on word for this : pathetic... but if american teammate love that, it's good for here.

RFAD (sad, because i love Nation cup but today, you're attitude it's not "my idea" of this competition)

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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Thu, 30 September 2010 22:49
On display today was basically the whole of my complaint with this community. Thank you to all the backers and the display today only confirms your support. To the detractors, you have got to be kidding me, the display and the behavior was pathetic.

Lets sum, shall we:

I agree to play at 10pm his time today. I ask for the next games at midnight my time, he will not commit in the forum. Get to the lobby he TELLS me, he WILL NOT play at midnight my time. I tell him fine lets do a reciprocal 10pm/10pm. He refuses. Then he says lets do a reciprocal 16h/16h. I say fine lets play 1 at all 4 times. He refuses.

I guess the TD will have to force him to come out one of these mornings.

What a joke.

kid 2

RFAD 0
    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Thu, 30 September 2010 22:52
RFAD - Saint-Emilion wrote on Thu, 30 September 2010 16:45

you play with word : play 10 pm for 10 pm ? why no play at 4pm for 4pm ? you are a coward



I'm the coward? I AGREED to play 1 at ALL 4 of those times. You DIDN'T. EVERYONE in the lobby saw who the COWARD was.

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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Thu, 30 September 2010 23:09
lol : you have time for speak 18 minute before the game, for answer in the forum but not for play... quel blaireau
    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Thu, 30 September 2010 23:11
RFAD - Saint-Emilion wrote on Thu, 30 September 2010 17:09

lol : you have time for speak 18 minute before the game, for answer in the forum but not for play... quel blaireau


Keep talking I played at your time. You're the one who refuses to play at mine. And you're the one who got spanked.
    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Fri, 01 October 2010 00:07
Pifbat69-Montlouis wrote on Thu, 30 September 2010 17:29

l'hypocrisie et du manque d'éducation de ce kid.




Lack of education eh? Lets see Survey Says - XXXXXXXXX, aww sorry no Rice a Roni for You.

MBA in Finance from NYU for me, in case you don't know why don't you ask someone how great a school it is.

What do you have?

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Dizzy's got the conch Fri, 01 October 2010 03:54
RFAD - Saint-Emilion wrote on Thu, 30 September 2010 14:45


on word for this : pathetic... but if american teammate love that, it's good for her


Oh Hooo, Xav. PLEASE don't mistake OR misquote me (whichever is the case here). I said "I love you all". I certainly do not love this 11-year-old, "Lord of the Flies" behavior from two people I like and normally respect who seem hell bent on one-upping and out-a$$ing each other here.

Some of us are able to separate decent people from (hopefully momentary lapses of) poor behavior. I still don't love it, but I can deal with it. Razz
    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Fri, 01 October 2010 07:05
RFAD - Saint-Emilion schrieb am Thu, 30 September 2010 23:09

lol : you have time for speak 18 minute before the game, for answer in the forum but not for play... quel blaireau



I think as the French players are guilty too.so many unnecessary interruptions Rolling Eyes

I admit as kid wanted to play in the morning at 5 with bassie, i was not really happy.

BUT 90% of U.S. players play our best time.
is it too much that one of us even play at their best time?


sorry for my bad english,but yesterday i the lobby i felt like in nursery school Confused
    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Fri, 01 October 2010 08:28
I don't want to take a stand for one or the other, because I didn't understood all (i've had enough of my dictionary), and I've left my 10 years old for a long time.
But one thing wrong in your reasoning, thekid : the "reciprocal 10pm for 10pm" is stupid, because there are not 12 hours difference between NY and Paris, but only 6. So if 10pm for 10pm seems good for you, a french player could say the same with 10am for 10am (or other example...). Think about that.

And "hf" all ?????????????
    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Fri, 01 October 2010 08:39
you're right JenAck : 4pm is worst that 4am !!!!

pfew, it's really funny and i hope you play one day against thekid in NC : every year the same problem, but it's the "folklore" of NC i suppose... kid HAVE the time for play all the game yesterday but he don't want (after 2 victory... he was afraid for me ? wouh !)

For dizz, sorry but when i read "I like my captain. I really do But even more than that, I respect him. " i laught... but maybe i misundertsand Wink personnaly i respect PLAYER thekid but MAN thekid was ... i don't write was i think because he his was crying after and sait "RFAD is a bad guy with me, i'm a white goose Crying or Very Sad Crying or Very Sad Crying or Very Sad ".

Howeaver... maybe the next round of competition was more simple for his opponent (if he play before his teammate or if they are not 2-2 after you're work) or maybe cinéma continue...

For next game, i wait an answer : saturday beetwen 08h-24h CEST or sunday same time... if he can't play he can propose me a plage of 16 consecutive hours.

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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Fri, 01 October 2010 10:37
SMP-JenAck schrieb am Fri, 01 October 2010 07:05

90% of U.S. players play our best time.



That is very true and I`d like to thank all of you that do that!

But you still don`t understand why there is not much option to that fact. Please let me know if any US player has ever been asked to play HIS time 03:00? 03:00 is a time very few can play a decent game, in Europe as well as in the US. I would say it is probably the worst time of all.
It is a question of having a game afternoon/evening vs evening/middleofthenight - with the last option beeing mornings/afternoons (I am not sure whether mornings are a good time for US players? but we sure should accept that more often)

To get back to the personal thing in this post ...
Yesterday thekid played two games at a time that is hard for him and and perfect for RFAD - that should be respected - personally I think it is time now for RFAD to step foreward and accept to play at a time thekid suggests - I think that is just a matter of fairness (still I think it is also a question of fairness not to ask for a game in the middle of the night)
    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Fri, 01 October 2010 10:38
50 posts in this precious thread - great! Very Happy
Go make it 100!!! Laughing

For scheduling issues: I'm not always very flexible, but I try to be and never ever had any problems here.
If two pigheads want to be stubborn, please use PMs for it. If anybody thinks he is unblamable and his opponent is not, again use a PM and tell a TD. It's of no use to go public, we (the readers) are satisfied if we read short TD posts about his decisions Wink

It's so interesting how people think!
Cheating was always an issue since 5 years.
kid knows he doesn't cheat but is afraid to be cheated; so he dumps his rating, also to make his opponent be afraid of being cheated. I don't like it, but I can understand it Wink
But there is a (squashy) NC rule for that, so why not ask a TD to enforce it instead of writing angry or ridiculing posts?
For myself, I'm just afraid to be accused of cheating, if I manage to do a brilliant play. So I fight hard to raise my ranking so I'm the one to be watched and thus be never accused of cheating! Pirate

    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Fri, 01 October 2010 13:25
no no : perfect time for me is 10h CEST saturday and sunday but... i'm a smart guy and i propose other time for thekid because i know this time his hard for play !

What ? 10h CEST is not a good time for kid ? i don't understand why...

23h30 CEST is honest : i can't play at this time last tuesday but it's possible this tuesday. His it possible ? yes because TD said we have exceptionnaly 3 additionnal day. Thekid accept this ? (it's the second choice in this message, like me...) ? on verra...

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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Fri, 01 October 2010 13:52
Knockando - Apremont wrote on Fri, 01 October 2010 02:28

I don't want to take a stand for one or the other, because I didn't understood all (i've had enough of my dictionary), and I've left my 10 years old for a long time.
But one thing wrong in your reasoning, thekid : the "reciprocal 10pm for 10pm" is stupid, because there are not 12 hours difference between NY and Paris, but only 6. So if 10pm for 10pm seems good for you, a french player could say the same with 10am for 10am (or other example...). Think about that.

And "hf" all ?????????????


Do you not know how to read?

He proposed in the lobby for all to see a 16h/16h and I proposed a 10pm/10pm. I agreed to 1 at all 4. HE REFUSED. Now 3 of 4 times are in our WORKING HOURS. He has refused to commit. He is the problem not me. Now the only fair thing is for me to play at 10pm with a quiet house like he got. He should have taken the earlier offer that he refused as it is now rescinded.
    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Fri, 01 October 2010 13:56
RFAD - Saint-Emilion wrote on Fri, 01 October 2010 02:39

: 4pm is worst that 4am !!!!



For next game, i wait an answer : saturday beetwen 08h-24h CEST or sunday same time... if he can't play he can propose me a plage of 16 consecutive hours.


You don't get to make the rules. I played at 10 pm your time. I played with two 21 month olds in my lap during the 2 games, grabbing my arms going for the computer. You got a quiet house. I get a quiet house. Too bad you refused all my prior offers of 11:30pm your time and 2 pm your time. YOU REFUSED THEM. Fair is fair. I'll see you at 10pm MY TIME either tonight, tomorrow or Sunday. Let me know which day you prefer.

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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Fri, 01 October 2010 13:59
OLE Masimo wrote on Fri, 01 October 2010 04:37

SMP-JenAck schrieb am Fri, 01 October 2010 07:05

90% of U.S. players play our best time.



To get back to the personal thing in this post ...
Yesterday thekid played two games at a time that is hard for him and and perfect for RFAD - that should be respected - personally I think it is time now for RFAD to step foreward and accept to play at a time thekid suggests - I think that is just a matter of fairness (still I think it is also a question of fairness not to ask for a game in the middle of the night)


He had received many chances for that. Now it's the weekend and we won't be home except late at night. I could play til midnight but thats not my preference and he wasted all of the earlier GOOD TIMES for HIM. HIS FAULT. NOW IT'S MY TIME. HE GOT 10 PM, I deserve 10PM. FAIR IS FAIR.
    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Fri, 01 October 2010 14:16
thekid écrit le Fri, 01 October 2010 13:52

Knockando - Apremont wrote on Fri, 01 October 2010 02:28

I don't want to take a stand for one or the other, because I didn't understood all (i've had enough of my dictionary), and I've left my 10 years old for a long time.
But one thing wrong in your reasoning, thekid : the "reciprocal 10pm for 10pm" is stupid, because there are not 12 hours difference between NY and Paris, but only 6. So if 10pm for 10pm seems good for you, a french player could say the same with 10am for 10am (or other example...). Think about that.

And "hf" all ?????????????


Do you not know how to read?

He proposed in the lobby for all to see a 16h/16h and I proposed a 10pm/10pm. I agreed to 1 at all 4. HE REFUSED. Now 3 of 4 times are in our WORKING HOURS. He has refused to commit. He is the problem not me. Now the only fair thing is for me to play at 10pm with a quiet house like he got. He should have taken the earlier offer that he refused as it is now rescinded.


You REALLY have the age of your name ????????????? Incredible to see that kind of things...

Nobody obliged you to play at 4AM, and you can't obliged anybody to play at 4AM.

And please, stop being stupid both of you two !
    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Fri, 01 October 2010 14:19
[quote title=Knockando - Apremont wrote on Fri, 01 October 2010 08:16][quote title=thekid écrit le Fri, 01 October 2010 13:52]
Knockando - Apremont wrote on Fri, 01 October 2010 02:28



Nobody obliged you to play at 4AM, and you can't obliged anybody to play at 4AM.





You're right he doesn't have to play then, but like the lobby told me if I didn't play at his 10PM I WOULD FORFEIT. HE CAN NOW SHOW UP AND PLAY AT MY 10PM OR FORFEIT, HIS CHOICE. And he can pick the day, but he has to write that day here.
    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Fri, 01 October 2010 14:25
You know I love all his excuses, I gave none, played at his 10PM with 2 toddlers in my lap. The time for excuses is over. It's payment time like in Goodfellas:

Business bad? #$@$ !%&, pay me. Oh, you had a fire? #$@$ !%&, pay me. Place got hit by lightning huh? #$@$ !%&, pay me."

No excuses, it's payment time.

And the time is 10PM MY TIME.
    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Fri, 01 October 2010 15:02
Hey kid

Just translate ma signature in English Smile. You have one year of advance Smile

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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Fri, 01 October 2010 15:17
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Fri, 01 October 2010 16:32
This is too funny. He wants to CANCEL the 2 games HE LOST. Who in the world is supporting this behavior? Show your face here with an answer to that question.


RFAD - Saint-Emilion wrote on Fri, 01 October 2010 02:50

En effet, la solution que tu préconises aurait été la meilleure et j'ai un peu tardé pour le contacter, n'étant pas certain de mon emploi du temps car, entre la fac (et les cours qui changent quasiment d'un jour à l'autre) et le collège (ou je devais participer au conseil d'administration hier soir.... avant qu'il ne soit décalé !) je préférais avoir un peu plus de visibilité.

De toute manière, arriver à jouer thekid est toujours un problème : il compte toujours sur son "effet de surprise" qui consiste a te voir dans le lobby, te dire "on joue" avant, suivant le résultat, de te dire "ah bah désolé j'ai autre chose a faire on fait la suite plus tard".

L'exemple d'hier soir est flagrant : il avait tout son temps pour faire de 3 à 5 parties et vu la physionomie du match, il aurait pu passer pour un pseudo "seigneur" si il avait dit "aller on le finit" sachant qu'en me collant 0-3 il pouvait ensuite se gargariser d'avoir été gentil avec moi (alors que je ne le mérite pas et que je suis un "jerk"... d'ailleurs faudra que je pense a regarder dans le dico ce que ça veut dire) et de m'avoir écrasé mais non, il a voulu me faire chier et donc il envoie un MP a shamogi en disant que si je joue pas à 4h du matin dans les deux prochains jours il considère que je suis forfait !

Je ne bougerais pas de ma position : samedi 08h-24h, dimanche même chose, ça fait 32 heures pour jouer faut pas déconner ! A partir du moment ou il voudra que je joue a 4h du matin, je demande l'annulation des deux premières parties et accepte de jouer a 4h du matin si il joue AUSSI a cette heure là ! ras le bol de son pseudo raisonnement de réciprocité alors que dans l'histoire, le seul qui se fait entuber c'est moi (et il l'a bien compris avec son histoire foireuse des 4 horaires quand je lui ai fait remarqué).

Gagner ou perdre sur tapis vert me rebute mais être pris pour un con est encore pire donc... désolé mais là la coupe est pleine.

TA TA TAM et bonne journée Smile

    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Fri, 01 October 2010 16:54
Let me see if I have this right:

Player 1 goes public, calling out, chastising, ridiculing, accusing, taunting, etc. player 2 = player 2 sucks.

Player 2 rightly calls attention to the public accusations = player 2 sucks.

Player 1 sends a pm asking when to schedule nc; player 2 responds quickly; player 1 delays = player 2 sucks

Player 1 demands games to be played around his schedule; player 2 obliges = player 2 sucks.

Player 2 expects a reciprocal understanding of scheduling; player 1 complains/whines/accuses = player 2 sucks.

Player 2 sets a time; player 1 et.al. howl that 4 am is too early/unreasonable, all the while joyfully expecting that player 2 et.al. should not only play at 4 am, at work, with children underfoot, at player 1's prime time, etc., etc., but also should thoroughly enjoy even being allowed to compete with the "elites" of this community = player 2 sucks

I probably have missed a few things along the way because as many of you know, I am a moron. But, as many of you also know, it's not my fault, because player 2 sucks.

I see the theme.
    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Fri, 01 October 2010 17:32
Is there anybody outside who wants to be the man in the middle? Maybe we will get a nice end too afterwards Wink
Kid and RFAD shake hands. An incredible imagination!

Shamo is our TD so I'll vote for him Wink

And sorry guys, but as I saw the clip I really HAD to put it in.

Peace and harmony.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRKI4MGDod4






    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Fri, 01 October 2010 18:05
No no i do not cancel the game : if you study in france, you don't understand french word !

I said : i play at 4 am ? ok if YOU play at 4 am... so first game are not good for this rule so assume that !

it's you're rules on the beginning but when you heard the "reciproque" you said a new rules and new and new...

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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Fri, 01 October 2010 18:09
RFAD - Saint-Emilion wrote on Fri, 01 October 2010 12:05

No no i do not cancel the game : if you study in france, you don't understand french word !

I said : i play at 4 am ? ok if YOU play at 4 am... so first game are not good for this rule so assume that !

it's you're rules on the beginning but when you heard the "reciproque" you said a new rules and new and new...


There's nothing new. You played at 10pm, I want to play at 10pm. Fair is Fair. Now the lobby should be yelling at you the way they did to me, play or forfeit. I played, which you going to choose?

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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Fri, 01 October 2010 20:01
My simple solution:

0-3 for both players.

Maybe this will end the kindergarden ...

Chris

P.S.: This post might contain irony and sarcasm but it might contain some real thoughts (which I won't write down at all) as well ...
    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Fri, 01 October 2010 20:30
UEG-chrismmm wrote on Fri, 01 October 2010 14:01


Maybe this will end the kindergarden ...




What would end it is if the TD used the precedent set by TD Scott when Sauvignon tried this same garbage 2 years ago. I played at his time and he tried to block out 8 hours of my nighttime like this clown is trying to do. Basically he was told to go out and play or lose. He played and lost Smile.
    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Fri, 01 October 2010 20:44
theScorps schrieb am Fri, 01 October 2010 16:54

Let me see if I have this right:

Player 1 goes public, calling out, chastising, ridiculing, accusing, taunting, etc. player 2 = player 2 sucks.

Player 2 rightly calls attention to the public accusations = player 2 sucks.

Player 1 sends a pm asking when to schedule nc; player 2 responds quickly; player 1 delays = player 2 sucks

Player 1 demands games to be played around his schedule; player 2 obliges = player 2 sucks.

Player 2 expects a reciprocal understanding of scheduling; player 1 complains/whines/accuses = player 2 sucks.

Player 2 sets a time; player 1 et.al. howl that 4 am is too early/unreasonable, all the while joyfully expecting that player 2 et.al. should not only play at 4 am, at work, with children underfoot, at player 1's prime time, etc., etc., but also should thoroughly enjoy even being allowed to compete with the "elites" of this community = player 2 sucks

I probably have missed a few things along the way because as many of you know, I am a moron. But, as many of you also know, it's not my fault, because player 2 sucks.

I see the theme.


A witty contribution, eventually, to this terrible thread - grats Scorps Thumbs Up

As each medal has 2 sides I'll tackle the other one:

Sometimes, player 2 ...

... goes public, calling out ... other players = who cares?

... downplays his rating, thereby putting the "attention, possible cheater"-mark on his next opponent = who cares?

... can be a pain in the neck with his time contraints and interrupted matches = who cares?

... uses the eloquency in his native language to twist and turn somebody else's words until they lose their original intention and make the other look bad = who cares?

... makes people refrain from critizising him, because they fear his sharp replies ...
... oops, should I delete this post? Rolling Eyes ... but hey, ... who cares? Wink
    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Fri, 01 October 2010 21:02
AT_dea1 wrote on Fri, 01 October 2010 14:44


As each medal has 2 sides I'll tackle the other one:

Sometimes, player 2 ...

... goes public, calling out ... other players = who cares?

... downplays his rating, thereby putting the "attention, possible cheater"-mark on his next opponent = who cares?

... can be a pain in the neck with his time contraints and interrupted matches = who cares?

... uses the eloquency in his native language to twist and turn somebody else's words until they lose their original intention and make the other look bad = who cares?

... makes people refrain from critizising him, because they fear his sharp replies ...
... oops, should I delete this post? Rolling Eyes ... but hey, ... who cares? Wink



And sometimes there's an austrian who interjects her not so witty responses without regard the facts. And she also displayed a lack of independence when she tried to influence a match that she was TD of to help her friend.

I could barely contain myself waiting for you to respond, I knew you couldn't resist. Was ready and waiting for ya Smile Thanks.

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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Fri, 01 October 2010 21:16
... and sometimes he simply states freely invented facts (probably intending to present some freely associated "proof" afterwards) = who cares?
    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Fri, 01 October 2010 21:25
I have youir pm's where you tried to goad me into playing your friend because she didn't feel like waking up early, after picking the time she said was acceptable to her.
    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Fri, 01 October 2010 21:33
in that case - please post them!
    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Fri, 01 October 2010 21:54
Gladly, along with my response to you. You say you won't make a ruling and defer but there was no ruling to make. You as TD then write this piece of garbage to me trying to make me play at a different time because she changed her mind. Another trick the euro's have used give a good time and then rescind it.

You should have just posted her wishes as TD but you couldn't do that as you weren't independent and instead try to goad me into play at her tiny amount of days and times.




Hi kid,

with tewe being my AT teammate I'm clearly not unbiased here, so I asked Dom to handle this alone and I won't act as TD.

However, as I happen to know the story now, I can't resist to tell you my personal opinion.
If you feel like answering, I take that as dea not as TD.

There are 2 versions of thekid - I'm very fond of the first

#1: Kid the man
tough and very good player, can take what he dishes out, puts up a good show, witty critzism of things that deserve to be critizised

#2: Kid the smartass
teases opponents who don't deserve it and/or can't defend themselves, plays "time games" (forcing opponents to play at very inconvenient times for them, playing only 1 or 2 games per day, ...), remarks "below the belt" (example: Telling poor overweight Nette that she loses against your good looking wife in miniskirt)

You are about to win your first major title in TTR.
One more win (or forfeit) and the Overall Championship is yours for sure (GRATS to your top performance BTW).
Which of the 2 guys do you want to be on that day?

Regards
dea



thekid wrote on Tue, 18 May 2010 10:36

Well I'll take the time to answer you can decide which of the 2 you think I'm being, and by the way there's only one of me. And also by the way there hasn't been one problem til now, all my matches have run smoothly, even the one I got crushed in and posted it accordingly. I give kudos where there are due, you don't see too many people posting their losses.

Now to tewe, this is why I hate playing in tournaments, because a lot of the europeans and it seems mainly austrians, sauvignon and susifusz being prime examples. They wait for you to give their times then say all of them are inconvenient and then go whining or provide only a couple of days to play. The TD finally had some guts and stood up to them. In the Sauvignon match, you don't know this, but I didn't have to play he had already said I would win, but I wanted him to go down like the scared loser he was. For Susifusz he put up only one day to play out of 10 and he lost the match because of it.

1. Tewe has provided 4 days to play out of 14. I can play all 14, with many more hours than her. She said any time, but she lied.

2. She was on last night, midnight her time, I asked to play, she refused saying she had no time. But she argued about the times for 30 minutes, and then spent another 15 on the forums. So she had time to play just refused.

3. I already gave 3 days Sunday night at 7pm her time and Monday afternoon and Friday afternoon. She can't play any of them. She is cherry picking around the times I offer to box me into a horribly inconvenient time.

4. I played Val at 6am my time, I didn't complain, I'd prefer to play at 9pm my time but I have 3 matches to schedule, she only has 1.

5. I offered to play 5 on her time and 4 on mine. She refused. She can't get up one day to play at 6 or 7 am cmon, who's being unreasonable here when I offered to play more than half the match at her times on only 4 days.

6. She offers 3am for me to play, but she can't play at 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 am, please. I didn't offer her 9pm my time, but she's sure got it in there for hers.

7. Take a look at the times she's now offering on my time. between 3am and 6pm on 4 weekday/workdays. Who's being unreasonable here. You can't honestly believe it's me.

8. There's nothing wrong with plahying 2 games at a time, I played Lcr and subur to no complaints as I'm primarily playing at their nighttime, not mine. Do any of them have 6 kids? Are they bending one bit to what I want and when I can play a full match? No. And it's not fair to say Americans need to play a full match a time that's perfectly convenient to the european players.

9. And notice it's never the premier players who have these problems playing against me, it's always the second tier wannabees.


Lying and ducking my times isn't my fault. She wants to forfeit, so she doesn't miss out on any sleep, there's no need for TD involvement, too bad let her.


And I will add another correction to your little tirade there. I never said anything about anyone's weight. My wife wanted action that night, who could blame her I'm irresistable and anybody loses out to that. I have only made one remark about anybody's appearance here and that's to another buddy of yours streetcar and only after she called me hideous. And my witty remark was I wouldn't talk I've seen your picture.

And you know what I'm particularly offended and annoyed by your writing me and saying things about me without knowing all the facts. Can't wait to see a point by point response, I broke em out nice and neatly for ya.




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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Fri, 01 October 2010 23:00
ok, it's time to intervene:

- The players "thekid" and "RFAD" have time to play their match before the deadline!
- Should be found by that date no time, then I'll evaluate the game as follows:
thekid - RFAD 2-0
Team USA 0.5 points, White TGV 0 points.



I'll put it very simply this is a bad decision and bad for precedent. Now all the European players have to do is say they can only play 8am-midnight their time and the Americans are never allowed to play at night.
    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Fri, 01 October 2010 23:11
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It is always easy to tip over the fire.
it is simply to criticize and make allegations.
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Fri, 01 October 2010 23:42
I support whatever the TD decides, but possible solutions:

1.) Since it is not the last round, give more time to finish the match. It is a bad precedent since we don't want matches dragging on forever, but given the "drama" surrounding this maybe it would be ok.

Or pretend both players were admitted to the mental ward and don't have access to a computer right now, and thus:

2.) If both parties are to blame. Conisder the match done and thekid wins 2-0.

3.) Let another player on one or both of the teams play the rest of the match.

Or-

I believe what was done in the past is each player sends the TD a certain number of times they are available to play, and the TD looks at them, picks a time (may or may not be one of the times suggested), then the players show up and play or forfeit. Simple. Players can whine about the time chosen, but too bad.

For this case if I was the TD, I would choose either 23:45 CEST (17:45 EST) [European player should be able to stay up this late, and the American player should be able to get home from work, etc.] or 05:45 CEST (23:45 EST)[American player should be able to stay up this late, and the European player should be able to play before going to work, etc.]

    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Sat, 02 October 2010 00:49
Quote:

I support whatever the TD decides


Thx Drake, very important phrase. *thumbs up*

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@kid: have you ever heard that this site has a very nice function named "PRIVATE MESSAGE"?

If you cannot agree with TD's (I repeat: tournament DIRECTOR!) decision, I guess you can ask shamo kindly per PM for the reasons respectively for his way of thinking. If he is willing to do, feel happy, if not, it's his way of right.

Chris

P.S.: Just have read the rules again ...

Quote:

20B: In case of a dispute, one of the involved captains sends a PM to the TD with a copy to the other captain. The decision will be under the discretion of the TD. The TD will inform both captains by PM about the decision and post it in the organisational thread if necessary.


Just to be sure ... I have the certain feeling some people have forgot this one Wink

[Updated on: Sat, 02 October 2010 00:50]

    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Sat, 02 October 2010 05:18
Drake,

right, my decision is maybe not a good precedent.

But, there are things in the background, that i don't wont
to bring in public.
only this, i was all the time in contact with
the players/captains. to give more times to play was my first idea.
writing to all other captains and a voting was another idea.

but, after all the discussion in the public,
i saw no way in this case and had to decide.
i'm really not happy with the decision.
in my opinion, to give 3 more days time to play will end in 3 more days discussion in the forum.

many players contacted me:"stop this" ...

hope we all can go on with the tournament now.

thx
shamo
    
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