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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Sat, 02 October 2010 08:53
Et bien cette décision générera un commentaire de ma part puisque je ne suis pas capitaine : c'est comme dans la "vrai vie", on finit toujours pas craquer et se lasser des emmerdeurs et leur laisser obtenir ce qu'ils souhaitent.
Thekid savait qu'en cas d'annulation du match, son équipe remportait le clash, et il en a bien profité.
Je trouve honteux qu'on donne raison à quelqu'un qui veux obliger à son adversaire à jouer à 4 am, alors que lui ne joue qu'en journée ou en soirée.
L'esprit du jeu n'en ressort malheureusement vraiment pas grandi.

Et je n'ai pas le courage de sortir mon dictionnaire pour écrire ça en anglais...
    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Sat, 02 October 2010 10:09
Where did you go, Marlon Brando?
Is Joe Pesci happy?

[Updated on: Sat, 02 October 2010 10:15]

    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Sat, 02 October 2010 10:47
Joe Dalton ?


Translation of Knockando, before a cheap junk one appears :

I need to comment on this decision, no matter what, especially that i'm not captain. It's like in real life, we should not get sick of a nuisance, bend over and let them obtain what they want.

Thekid was aware that his team would get the win over the clash if the games remaining were cancelled, and he did well by doing so.

It's a shame to prove the kid he was right to ask for games to be played at 4am.

The spirit of NC is not coming out the best way...

I don't have the strength to check all that in a dictionnary.




Just to help to understand knock's point of view. White players are quite new in such tourneys and have been very motivated to do their best and play this NC...



Some words, just a feeling... :

...not giving both players at least the same penalty will encourage in a way some players to use this behaviour again...

...Good luck shamo for the rest of the tourney, think you need it. Wink

...and good luck to Doc to go on with the tourney keeping the team motivated.
... using ... has been a quite nice trend lately Razz

[Updated on: Sat, 02 October 2010 11:44]

    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Sat, 02 October 2010 11:31
Thanks Sysyphus for the translation.

No problems with motivation, no matter win or lose this clash, I never though we can win NC, only the fun of playing with a team and doing our best... the only new thing is that I will now support opponents of TU, because I don't like unfairness, and I think there is here. Perhaps they are better than us, but they don't merit to win in this way, so I hope they won't go longer in this NC.

Sorry for other players of TU...I think they are very embarrassed...
    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Sat, 02 October 2010 11:43
Ok, i know now what is the way for chicken for winning a clash when the score is 2-2 !

Kid have the time to play but he refused to play AND he win ? i don't know translation of "les bras m'en tombent" but this very smart guy can translate (i always think that american people said "a diplom is good but it's not the reality : hard work you win the respect more than other guy" ... but when i read thekid message i have a doubt) .

I have a bad feeling after this history but thekid have not only one history like this in nation cup : every year it's the same problem and every year "we" accept that because it's thekid... peterdezew have not this chance in past, other not and it's a chance because with 2 or 3 thekid in Nation Cup, competition down in few week.

So, "felicitation" for this great victory thekid : it's 2 points for team USA and -1231 for the nation cup spirit... ratio is very good !

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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Sat, 02 October 2010 11:56
well, I didnt't want to write here but I do have some informations

I read : " Thekid responded quickly to the pm he recieved and then RFAD delayed"
Yes, Thekid responded quickly but only responded, he didn't contact RFAD himself

we all know his way to do, his Narrow-minded" : 'psychological war" I don't contact you, if you want me, contact me, I'm the boss but I will not contact you first'

RFAD sent his pm during monday night, the kid responded at 5am (tuesday), and RFAD could only read it when he came back in the night(tuesday), and asked for help ( wednesday)in the french forum to understand the times proposed

we tried to help him but realized that the times were absurds !!!!


When kid says he generously proposed 11:30 pm ( EU time) , he "forgets" to say it was only proposed for tuesday : the same day he wrote his pm, it was impossible for RFAD, coming back at home after midnight to play at 11:30pm : another example of his psychological war

"if you want to play at a decent time , it's today or never ! accept or lose !"

kid, I know your feelings for me, and you know that between us it's an Unconditional reciprocity then hush,or they will all know Love

very very sad precedent, hope no one will do the same ever
    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Sat, 02 October 2010 12:19
toutoune - Morgon wrote on Sat, 02 October 2010 04:09

Where did you go, Marlon Brando?
Is Joe Pesci happy?


To the beach. And we'll be gone most of the day today, I'll be back late tonight. There's no more posturing and posing. That's when I'll be around.

And by the way, I saw your shouts of I forfeit if I don't play the other day, I played. Why no shout outs to your countryman? I'd love to see a response.

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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Sat, 02 October 2010 12:24
léachris - Champagne wrote on Sat, 02 October 2010 05:56


we tried to help him but realized that the times were absurds !!!!






11:30 pm his time yes was for one day, and 2pm his time was for all the weekdays, and I then played at 10pm his time. Those are facts. You argue with emotions. I have facts. And those times are not absurd and everyone here would agree with it as the times I am always offered are weekday afternoons which I played.

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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Sat, 02 October 2010 12:31
UEG-chrismmm wrote on Fri, 01 October 2010 18:49
P.S.: Just have read the rules again ...

[quote title=Quote:

20B: In case of a dispute, one of the involved captains sends a PM to the TD with a copy to the other captain. The decision will be under the discretion of the TD. The TD will inform both captains by PM about the decision and post it in the organisational thread if necessary.


Just to be sure ... I have the certain feeling some people have forgot this one Wink[/quote]


Hey Mr. Smarty pants rules lawyer, nowhere there does it say you can't agree with the ruling. Look at all of the frenchies in this post who are now disagreeing with it. Why not chastise them?

Shamogi even said to discuss it in another thread. Shamogi even said it's bad for precedent. Scott had established a precedent of making the people who only want to play at their perfect time have to play at the opponents time. Shamogi wants to go against that, it's his choice, I played at RFAD's time he refuses mine, it is bad precedent. Those are facts, argue them not that thekid is a jerk. I am when I'm jerked around, and I was.

That's all for today, time for breakfast and a relexing day o' beach. I'll be back tonight to enjoy all of your lovely responses.
    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Sat, 02 October 2010 13:23
thekid écrit le Sat, 02 October 2010 12:24


11:30 pm his time yes was for one day, and 2pm his time was for all the weekdays, and I then played at 10pm his time. And those times are not absurd and everyone here would agree with it as the times I am always offered are weekday afternoons which I played.Those are facts. You argue with emotions. I have facts.

you only played at 10 pm his time to force hime to play at 10pm your time.... manipulation

the times you are always offered are in the afternoon, and you usually play in the afternoon ? why do you refuse now ?

playing at 2am or in the afternoon is not a problem ? Do you know there are people who need enough sleep to leave home early in the morning and go to a place where there is no computer to play with and coming back at home late in the evening, checking their pm once a day.....

you said you check you pm as soon as you receive them and are at home at 4pm with your kids, how lucky you are !


oh, sorry if you didn't see the facts, I repeat; read carefully : you have waited for RFAD to contact you and tried to force him to play at absurd times,impossible for a working person, with an obvious aim : a win by forfeit. that's the facts, period.

[Updated on: Sat, 02 October 2010 20:18]

    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Sat, 02 October 2010 13:41
Sysyphus - Madiran wrote on Sat, 02 October 2010 01:47


Some words, just a feeling... :

...not giving both players at least the same penalty will encourage in a way some players to use this behaviour again...



Yes I agree the French team should get the same penalty!

As I see it, White gets 0 points for the clash. Given that the match was 0-2 against White, the odds of winning 3 games in a row are pretty slim. Thus White most likely would end up with 0 points anyway. The penalty is that the American Team only gets .5 instead of 1 point for the clash.

Definitely not fair, but there might be other things behind the scene I don't know that would warrant this (Shamo alluded to this). Also I am not a fan of thekid by any means, so maybe its karma, after all the scheduling problems that seem to pop up during the NC involving him.

I see players using this behavior again also. Once you are down 0-2, just say you have to finish the match later, then be unreasonable in scheduling the rest of the match and the team you are playing against will only get .5 points and your team will get 0 that it was going to get anyway. [Not saying RFAD did this, just what others could do given this ruling].

... and here in America, some of us goto colleges that teach us to realize that playing at 22:00 CEST is NOT the same as playing 22:00 EST (i.e. playing at 16:00 EST is not the same as playing at 04:00 CEST!). *[However, I think I saw thekid offer to play 1 game every 6 hours in the lobby, which then would be the exact same times for each player. 10pm, 4am, 10am, 4pm].

PS: I like French Bread

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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Sat, 02 October 2010 13:50
Kid,
You should not twist my words.
Yes, it's bad precedent, also give you zero points would be fair.
But i can't ignore the match standing 2:0.
And i do not want to punish your team for your kind of fairness.

You were in this case just a little bit happier ...

Let's end here and go on with the tournament ...

greets
shamo
    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Sat, 02 October 2010 14:15
SMP-JenAck schrieb am Fri, 01 October 2010 07:05


BUT 90% of U.S. players play our best time.
is it too much that one of us even play at their best time?




They did. Just an example - U32 in the middle of the night, U31 6am, Jonif 6am, even he had to get up at 5 and after the games he went to school. Not a good time for an 9 years old boy. But he did it Smile

Last year I also had problems to schedule NC games with an american. I wrote 2 pm's and got finally an answer 5 days later...

So as far as I can see, there are a few euro's who are maybe a bit "problematically" but a few americans too.

In real life we have to solve our problems by ourselves. Thank God, here we have a TD. Everyone should accept his decisions.

Goal or no goal. Thats the decision of the referee and u can't do anything!

Hope my response was lovely enough Wink


    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Sat, 02 October 2010 15:22
HORRIBLE NATIONS CUP THIS YEAR

MERCI LE KID !!!

i have no problem with you( for example you are in my fantasy team... ) before this nations cup kid ... but after your circus, i think :

Your spirit is corrupted and some of your acts are limit racist to French ( problem with your strange ranking for example ). just an idea for future if you play the NC in 2011: I shall not play the competition and shall ask to be TD and if you begin again as this year I shall pronounce an exclusion from the NC for you.
0,5 point for your team is a bad decision, sorry shamogi ... exclusion for kid is better for fair-play of this competition and RFAD play against a subsitute ( start 0-2 is ok )!!!!

je veux pas mettre de l'huile sur le feu, juste dire ma deception au vue de la décision qui a été prise. Cependant merci a shamogi de faire ce difficile travail ( thanks for good job shamogi in general )malgré cette maladroite decision.

jerome

ps: if i stop my match against angel6 at 2-0 for me, you give 0,5 points for RED TGV and 0 for AT????? ( it's a good example not??? ) With this décision :now 2-0 in Nations cup is a semi-win ! ( hard play-off with this new rule !!! lol )

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Knockando - Apremont écrit le Sat, 02 October 2010 08:53

Et bien cette décision générera un commentaire de ma part puisque je ne suis pas capitaine : c'est comme dans la "vrai vie", on finit toujours pas craquer et se lasser des emmerdeurs et leur laisser obtenir ce qu'ils souhaitent.
Thekid savait qu'en cas d'annulation du match, son équipe remportait le clash, et il en a bien profité.
Je trouve honteux qu'on donne raison à quelqu'un qui veux obliger à son adversaire à jouer à 4 am, alors que lui ne joue qu'en journée ou en soirée.
L'esprit du jeu n'en ressort malheureusement vraiment pas grandi.

Et je n'ai pas le courage de sortir mon dictionnaire pour écrire ça en anglais...



100% OK WITH YOU KNOCK !!!


Sysyphus - Madiran écrit le Sat, 02 October 2010 10:47




Some words, just a feeling... :

...not giving both players at least the same penalty will encourage in a way some players to use this behaviour again...

...Good luck shamo for the rest of the tourney, think you need it. Wink

...and good luck to Doc to go on with the tourney keeping the team motivated.
... using ... has been a quite nice trend lately Razz


100% OK WITH YOU SYSY ....

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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Sat, 02 October 2010 15:40
all in first post sorry

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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Sat, 02 October 2010 15:44
all in first post. sorry



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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Sat, 02 October 2010 17:31
From the reactions it seems we can congratulate Shamogi to a wise decision.

If both sides think the other one was favored he must have found the golden middle Wink

If both sides are unhappy and want to do better - there's still time to finish the match on the board so the ruling won't happen ...
If both sides really want that - maybe they can ...
    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Sun, 03 October 2010 02:42
foudecoasters - Cerdon wrote on Sat, 02 October 2010 09:22

if you play the NC in 2011: I shall not play the competition



Lets see if you're telling the truth. I'll be there, I'm willing to bet you lied right there.

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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Sun, 03 October 2010 02:44
AT_dea1 wrote on Sat, 02 October 2010 11:31


If both sides think the other one was favored he must have found the golden middle Wink




The other team didn't get favorable treatment, he was going to lose so he gets a zero either way. For us it's a win but eliminates us from all tiebreakers which is a detriment to our team and unfair.
    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Sun, 03 October 2010 02:46
AMD Drake AMD wrote on Sat, 02 October 2010 07:41

[However, I think I saw thekid offer to play 1 game every 6 hours in the lobby, which then would be the exact same times for each player. 10pm, 4am, 10am, 4pm].



You would be partially correct. I asked for a reciprocal time from him which was 16h and mine was 10pm. How unfair of me to agree to all 4 times on the spot without hesitation and he wouldn't. See none of the frenchies will ever point to that. How is that unfair? The fact that no one will answer it, tells me it's fair.

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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Sun, 03 October 2010 03:10
foudecoasters - Cerdon wrote on Sat, 02 October 2010 09:22

exclusion for kid is better for fair-play of this competition and RFAD play against a subsitute ( start 0-2 is ok )!!!!

ps: if i stop my match against angel6 at 2-0 for me, you give 0,5 points for RED TGV and 0 for AT????? ( it's a good example not??? )


Absolutely laughable as I played and AGREED in the forum to play at HIS TIME. He would never commit to a time for ME. I commited to 2 games at HIS TIME, I played them. I didn't stop the match, RFAD did. Prior TD's would have forced him to play or forfeit, go ask Sauvignon and Susifusz and one of them wasn't against me, the other was our team. And yet we got howls of complaints that we were unfair when at the end of day 9 Susifusz finally answered Tprail's pm's saying he had time to play on day 10 the final day. One played and one made no attempt to play until the last second and lost because of it.

The only team penalized under the current ruling is us because we were going to get and deserved the full point. Why doesn't RFAD come out and prove me wrong?
    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Sun, 03 October 2010 08:36
thekid écrit le Sun, 03 October 2010 02:42

foudecoasters - Cerdon wrote on Sat, 02 October 2010 09:22

if you play the NC in 2011: I shall not play the competition



Lets see if you're telling the truth. I'll be there, I'm willing to bet you lied right there.




The kid does not know how to read, or pretends not to know

the real post :

foudecoasters - Cerdon écrit le Sat, 02 October 2010 15:22



Your spirit is corrupted and some of your acts are limit racist to French ( problem with your strange ranking for example ). just an idea for future if you play the NC in 2011: I shall not play the competition and shall ask to be TD and if you begin again as this year I shall pronounce an exclusion from the NC for you.




it's not a bet little baby !!!! just NC will be better without you !!! and lof of people are agree with that ! please don't play in 2011. Stop the quest for the "9" and start the quest for the "bye"...

thekid écrit le Sun, 03 October 2010 03:10



The only team penalized under the current ruling is us because we were going to get and deserved the full point.


in général, your team is penalized because your team have the worst captain in NC !!!

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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Sun, 03 October 2010 12:48
Ok, I try to do my best with my dictionary , and explain what seems new for me in this stupid affair.

1st point : when they played their 2 games, RFAD was ok to finish the match : not thekid ;
2d point : RFAD tried to schedule the end of the match for ANY HOUR between 8 am and 24h, in saturday on Sunday ; thekid said no ;
We all know that, and the TD took his decision with these factors ;
BUT 3rd point ; the kid was in fact available on Saturday, about 12h CEST : indeed, he wrote 3 messages in threads !

So, I consider that is a proof that thekid didn't really want to end his match .

So I ask to the TD to consider this, and give 0 points to both teams for this clash (or let play the match with a substitute of each team).

I don't ask for victory for my team : I ask for justice.
    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Sun, 03 October 2010 13:05
Knockando - Apremont wrote on Sun, 03 October 2010 06:48

BUT 3rd point ; the kid was in fact available on Saturday, about 12h CEST : indeed, he wrote 3 messages in threads !

So, I consider that is a proof that thekid didn't really want to end his match .

So I ask to the TD to consider this, and give 0 points to both teams for this clash (or let play the match with a substitute of each team).

I don't ask for victory for my team : I ask for justice.



Yes thekid was up at 6am, the same time I had orignally asked RFAD to play. I ate breakfast, pooped, banged out 3 messges in 14 minutes and went to the beach with my family, just like today except the babies let us sleep til 7am. So there wasn't time to play just like there won't be today. So I ask for the one millionth time. Why is it OK for me to play at 6am but not RFAD? That's the real justice question. But RFAD could change that. By being there at 6am which is my midnight tonight. That's the time I originally asked for, but RFAD REFUSED. WHY IS HE ALLOWED TO REFUSED THAT IF IT'S SUCH A GREAT TIME. ANSWER PLEASE. I'll be there if he writes that he will. I ASK ONE MORE TIME, TO KNOCKANDO AND ALL: WHY IS IT OK FOR ME TO PLAY AT 6AM BUT NOT RFAD? I AWAIT HIS AND YOUR ANSWER. AND BY YOUR OWN LOGIC IF HE DOESN'T SHOW WE DESERVE THE FULL POINT.


And lastly chew on this everyone, his post just proves what I am saying. They know they won't win and yet they ask us to get nothing when it's already 2-0. Their goal is just to hurt our team, he has no incentive to play, because he's going to get zero and us a full point if he does, and as you can see they don't want that.

I'll be around from 8pm to midnight tonight. Post it here if he'd like to play. Come out come out wherever you are.

Have a nice day.

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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Sun, 03 October 2010 15:02
thekid écrit le Sun, 03 October 2010 13:05

AND BY YOUR OWN LOGIC IF HE DOESN'T SHOW WE DESERVE THE FULL POINT.



STOP to justify the indefensible.

Liar, thief, cheater stop to justify your indefensible behavior if you just respect little the other players. ( just a bit , please, you, the kid, THE BEST PLAYER OF THE WORLD Shocked ...)

You create only the problem in this purpose there! That is why you should for your whole behavior of this week ( and past, but again for me no problem with the past... ) to be excluded of nations cup.

you have no more legitimacy has to play this nations cup. you don't respect this competition. you must quit her and stop your irony, your lies in all your post.

No shame?

I hope that you are the only cheater of this nations cup....
    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Sun, 03 October 2010 18:29
argument "RFAD play at this time" is funny : thursday you said "if RFAD doesn't play now i write to TD for declare RFAD forfeit because it's one time he write in MP for playing". So i open game, you play and after you said "ouin ouin.... he doesn't want play at my time".

With this attitude, they are a precedent for all player : trash talking is not authorizesd ? no problem trash scheduling is authorised : it's "thekid method" and it's work !!!

wait the opponent propose his time.
Come and said : "i want play at 4 a.m"
oppponent can't
said : "i play now, it's you're time and after you play at mine... so play now or declare forfeit".
The "problem" his you win 2 game so after that, wait a TD decision for the last... maybe in few week you make the same with only one game... and next year with 0 game play.

if the method works, and if it's ACCEPTED by ALL player in Nation cup, i think it's time me to stop my participation in NC.
Fortunately, MP, mail and other show to me that you are "thekid", a very little kid and I do not want to think that a shabby player like you can succeed to spoil a so nice competition .

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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Mon, 04 October 2010 02:33
foudecoasters - Cerdon wrote on Sun, 03 October 2010 09:02

thekid écrit le Sun, 03 October 2010 13:05

AND BY YOUR OWN LOGIC IF HE DOESN'T SHOW WE DESERVE THE FULL POINT.



STOP to justify the indefensible.

Liar, thief, cheater stop to justify your indefensible behavior if you just respect little the other players. ( just a bit , please, you, the kid, THE BEST PLAYER OF THE WORLD Shocked ...)

You create only the problem in this purpose there! That is why you should for your whole behavior of this week ( and past, but again for me no problem with the past... ) to be excluded of nations cup.

you have no more legitimacy has to play this nations cup. you don't respect this competition. you must quit her and stop your irony, your lies in all your post.

No shame?

I hope that you are the only cheater of this nations cup....


I'm a cheat, please. All you have is hate and vitriol. No facts in your post. Because the facts side with me.

Lets take a little quiz and see what you've done for this community shall we:

Who organized the first online tournament? Let's see, that'd be me.

Who hunted cheaters down and made the rankings real? Me again. In fact you had a cheater on your team in Deveric and I asked for comments from his teammates. Did you say one word in response? No.

Who came up with the idea for the Survivor tournament in The Spend the Night with thekid? That's an easy one read the title, me again.

Who offered people who were never #1 a match when they were within 8 points of the 1 in matches called For the 1? Another easy one, you've never been the 1, so looks like another point for me.

Who used to write detailed strategy tips in the forum to help out newcomers but doesn't anymore because of the behavior of so many people? Wow me again.

Who has been a TD of tournament? Hmmm, me.

So I ask what have you ever done for this community.

Oh I forgot you played between 9 and 10 pm CEST, and for that we're all supposed to be eternally grateful.



[Updated on: Mon, 04 October 2010 02:35]

    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Mon, 04 October 2010 02:40
RFAD - Saint-Emilion wrote on Sun, 03 October 2010 12:29

argument "RFAD play at this time" is funny : thursday you said "if RFAD doesn't play now i write to TD for declare RFAD forfeit because it's one time he write in MP for playing". So i open game, you play and after you said "ouin ouin.... he doesn't want play at my time".

With this attitude, they are a precedent for all player : trash talking is not authorizesd ? no problem trash scheduling is authorised : it's "thekid method" and it's work !!!

wait the opponent propose his time.
Come and said : "i want play at 4 a.m"
oppponent can't
said : "i play now, it's you're time and after you play at mine... so play now or declare forfeit".
The "problem" his you win 2 game so after that, wait a TD decision for the last... maybe in few week you make the same with only one game... and next year with 0 game play.

if the method works, and if it's ACCEPTED by ALL player in Nation cup, i think it's time me to stop my participation in NC.
Fortunately, MP, mail and other show to me that you are "thekid", a very little kid and I do not want to think that a shabby player like you can succeed to spoil a so nice competition .



I asked quite a few times for a committment for a time from you before we played. You wouldn't do it. It is all up there. You can write what you want but that is PROOF. You wouldn't respond to a pm and didn;t want to lose.

Your team was up 2 matches to nothing and it all fell apart. There was no way you were going to let me finish you off so you played a little game by not answering figuring you'd get 2 free games where you couldn;t lose the match but at least hopefully be tied and in your dreams be ahead. But you got spanked and it all fell apart. thekid was ready to put the hammer down and take your team from 2-0 delirium to the agony of a crushing 2-3 loss. But you weren't about to let that happen. So say whatever you want. The facts are all there, you wouldn't commit before we played and the cries of forfeit were at me if I didn't play even when you wouldn't commit. I played, you wouldn't and I know why, you knew you were going to lose and weren't about to let that happen.
    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Mon, 04 October 2010 02:56
[quote title=foudecoasters - Cerdon wrote on Sun, 03 October 2010 09:02]you should for your whole behavior of this week ( and past, but again for me no problem with the past... ) to be excluded of nations cup.
[quote]

You want to know something, I'm:

50% Italian, from the 100% goumba side
25% Swedish
12.5% Irish
AAAANNNNNNDDDDDD
12.5% FRENCH CANADIAN

Maybe you should try to have me excluded from my ancestry while your at it.
    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Mon, 04 October 2010 07:36
[quote title=thekid écrit le Mon, 04 October 2010 02:56]

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You want to know something, I'm:

50% Italian, from the 100% goumba side
25% Swedish
12.5% Irish
AAAANNNNNNDDDDDD
12.5% FRENCH CANADIAN

Maybe you should try to have me excluded from my ancestry while your at it.


"deleted text"

Sorry if i took bad examples...

I don't like to delete, because I think i have to assume my words.

But if it should be a problem for german people, OK, I do it.

Sorry, I should have choosen french bad personnalities, it would have been the same in my idea.

Je dis les choses autrement : on n'en a rien à faire de tes ancêtres, la qualité des uns ne présume pas de la qualité de leurs descendants.

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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Mon, 04 October 2010 07:50
you think really that situation result of the monday night with 2-0 for TGV to 2-2 ? huhu... if this situation is not pathetic, that's was pretty funny.

You can play, you don't want... it's easy to understand. After that... it's really you are the only man on TTR with children, wife, dog, etc... sometime, i think "wouhou.. thekid is superman : he saved the world AND he play TTR when nobody cry and said "kid save me"". Impressionnant !

    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Mon, 04 October 2010 08:34
thekid écrit le Mon, 04 October 2010 02:33

foudecoasters - Cerdon wrote on Sun, 03 October 2010 09:02

thekid écrit le Sun, 03 October 2010 13:05

AND BY YOUR OWN LOGIC IF HE DOESN'T SHOW WE DESERVE THE FULL POINT.



STOP to justify the indefensible.

Liar, thief, cheater stop to justify your indefensible behavior if you just respect little the other players. ( just a bit , please, you, the kid, THE BEST PLAYER OF THE WORLD Shocked ...)

You create only the problem in this purpose there! That is why you should for your whole behavior of this week ( and past, but again for me no problem with the past... ) to be excluded of nations cup.

you have no more legitimacy has to play this nations cup. you don't respect this competition. you must quit her and stop your irony, your lies in all your post.

No shame?

I hope that you are the only cheater of this nations cup....


I'm a cheat, please. All you have is hate and vitriol. No facts in your post. Because the facts side with me.

Lets take a little quiz and see what you've done for this community shall we:

Who organized the first online tournament? Let's see, that'd be me.

Who hunted cheaters down and made the rankings real? Me again. In fact you had a cheater on your team in Deveric and I asked for comments from his teammates. Did you say one word in response? No.

Who came up with the idea for the Survivor tournament in The Spend the Night with thekid? That's an easy one read the title, me again.

Who offered people who were never #1 a match when they were within 8 points of the 1 in matches called For the 1? Another easy one, you've never been the 1, so looks like another point for me.

Who used to write detailed strategy tips in the forum to help out newcomers but doesn't anymore because of the behavior of so many people? Wow me again.

Who has been a TD of tournament? Hmmm, me.

So I ask what have you ever done for this community.

Oh I forgot you played between 9 and 10 pm CEST, and for that we're all supposed to be eternally grateful.







WHO WHO WHO WHO WHO WHO WHO ......... Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked Shocked

the only 2 questions about you is :

WHO is the worst player of the NC ? answer : YOU !!!


WHO have create a new "cheat" ? YOU !!!


the only 1 question for communuty is :

Can we accept all the time a player like that ? NO !!! NO !!! NO !!! STOP !!! STOP !!!


ps; for deveric , nobody in france defend him !!!!! and i hope all members of your team can't defend your behaviour !(and you have lot of nice peapole and players in your team !!! you're are the only problem in this team ... ) For information : deveric move after his bad behaviour and not you !!!!!!! ( for comparison the cheat of deveric is in a individual tournament !!! not in NC ..... what the problems with RED TGV ??????? only a racist attack agaisnt french players for you again !!!!!!! you're just ugly )


RFAD - Saint-Emilion écrit le Sun, 03 October 2010 18:29



if the method works, and if it's ACCEPTED by ALL player in Nation cup, i think it's time me to stop my participation in NC.
Fortunately, MP, mail and other show to me that you are "thekid", a very little kid and I do not want to think that a shabby player like you can succeed to spoil a so nice competition .



100% OK . Si on acceptes çà c'est la fin de la NATIONS CUP ! C'est le kid qui bouge ou pleins de joueurs blasés... ? pour moi c'est le kid et je me batterai pour çà ( surement dans le vide meme si j'ose esperer que certains suivront mon raisonnement.la chasse aus sorcieres c'est pas juste pour des monstarmaster, des wuschel, des deveric, mais aussi THE KID.... ). On va me dire que je prend tout ca trop à coeur, et bien surement , sauf que je crois fermement en ce que je defend et que l'autre mongolito m'a suffisament mis les nerfs pour que je lache pas l'affaire, au risque de passer pour borné et tétu Rolling Eyes ah oui je le suis c'est vrai ...

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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Mon, 04 October 2010 10:50
I would like my French teammates or other TGV to be very cautious with the words they use and not to fall in that easy trap...
That's'not worth it Wink
    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Mon, 04 October 2010 11:05
sorry julien i dislike the liars and the cheaters .... my words are the result of his behaviour this week and i suggest him to stop his "professionnal TTR player World best player" now with the only worlds so good for that... for his level mind.... (pour ne pas lui suggerer des trucs avec du graviers si tu vois ce que je veux dire .... )


Mes mots n'ont riend de choquant comparé a ce qu'il a fait et continue de faire...se fooutre de notre gueule à tous... je suivrai surement l'exemple de xav si pas de sanction contre le KID car ca devient trop ecoeurant pour moi ... sur ce je retourne m'entrainer car match ce soir....

    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Mon, 04 October 2010 13:06
foudecoasters - Cerdon wrote on Mon, 04 October 2010 02:34

only a racist attack agaisnt french players for you again !!!!!!! you're just ugly )





How could I be racist?

thekid wrote on Sun, 03 October 2010 20:56



12.5% FRENCH CANADIAN



I'm one of you!!!!!!!


Maybe you're racist against mixed breeds like me.


And p.s. ask my team, they've all seen my picture and that of my whole family, not even a mediocre looking one in the bunch. All stunning.
    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Mon, 04 October 2010 13:19
thekid écrit le Mon, 04 October 2010 13:06

foudecoasters - Cerdon wrote on Mon, 04 October 2010 02:34

only a racist attack agaisnt french players for you again !!!!!!! you're just ugly )





How could I be racist?

thekid wrote on Sun, 03 October 2010 20:56



12.5% FRENCH CANADIAN



I'm one of you!!!!!!!


Maybe you're racist against mixed breeds like me.


And p.s. ask my team, they've all seen my picture and that of my whole family, not even a mediocre looking one in the bunch. All stunning.



EXCLUSION FOR THIS UGLY PLAYER PLEASE TD, BOARD AND CAPTAIN.

no more...
no comments...

    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Mon, 04 October 2010 13:38
foudecoasters - Cerdon wrote on Mon, 04 October 2010 07:19



EXCLUSION FOR THIS UGLY PLAYER PLEASE TD, BOARD AND CAPTAIN.

no more...
no comments...




Shall I send you a picture? I can autograph it.
    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Mon, 04 October 2010 13:44
thekid écrit le Mon, 04 October 2010 13:06

foudecoasters - Cerdon wrote on Mon, 04 October 2010 02:34

only a racist attack agaisnt french players for you again !!!!!!! you're just ugly )





How could I be racist?

thekid wrote on Sun, 03 October 2010 20:56



12.5% FRENCH CANADIAN



I'm one of you!!!!!!!


Maybe you're racist against mixed breeds like me.


And p.s. ask my team, they've all seen my picture and that of my whole family, not even a mediocre looking one in the bunch. All stunning.



So you're a liar, no french blood if no mediocre looking... Smile

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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Mon, 04 October 2010 13:54
Knockando - Apremont wrote on Mon, 04 October 2010 07:44

So you're a liar, no french blood if no mediocre looking... Smile



Must be the Italian then that makes up for it Smile.
    
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Re:Hey TD Where Are the Penalties for Opening Threads About Your Opponent Mon, 04 October 2010 14:07
sylvain, (et tous lesmembres TTR)
laisse le avec sa haute estime de lui meme. c'est un joueur raciste il l'a prouvé a de multiples occasions dans ses posts cette semaine . rien que pour çà, et sans parler de l'affaire en cours "white-us", le TD , avec l'avis des boards et des capitaines des équipes, doit prononcé une sanction " exemplaire" ( car on en a vraiment besoin pour marquer les esprit ! ) contre THE KID . Si rien n'est fait , si personne ne se bouge, j'en deduirai comme mon ami xavier, que dorenavant tout est permis en nations cup, les mensonges , l'irrespect, les manipulations de ranking, ainsi que les propos racistes .... Si rien ne bouge, clairement je me casse car je n'ai rien à faire ici, avec ces tolérances nouvelles à la magouille ...
Qui m'aime me suive, et si personne m'aime , au moins moi,j'aurais garder mes convictions intactes ! C'est un jeu, on est là pour s'amuser , pas pour avoir des pratiques innaceptables envers son adversaire et de manière générales avec la communautés TTR . On exclut le perturbateur et on reprend tous dans la joie et la bonne humeur.... ou alors on laisse la gangrene se reproduire pour les NC à venir. A vous de voir? pour moi c'est tout vu . Si julien veut bien traduire, j'ai plus l'envie là. Je le laisse à sa provocation tolérée !!!! en esperant que ca change.

cordialement

jerome
    
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