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Benzin
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Overlord Sun, 09 January 2011 20:18
Hey guys,

I was wondering, how do most people play overlord scenario´s. Do most of you have all maps in double, or improvise the second map or you only use preprinted maps?

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Benzin
      
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Re:Overlord Sun, 09 January 2011 20:23
I usually play my Overlords online, on Vassal. (But then, I don't have real-life opponents near home.)

I don't own duplicate sets. A few times, I've played Overlords by putting my regular and winter-desert boards next to each other, using similar terrain from one of the expansions, and using two different colors on each side.
      
Erik Uitdebroeck
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Re:Overlord Sun, 09 January 2011 21:41
I have every board double.
      
deadwing34
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Re:Overlord Sun, 09 January 2011 23:20
I have been thinking about playing Overlord with a group of people too. I only have the base game, what is the best route to take. Buy another base game, get operation overlord and pre-preprinted maps or what?
      
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Re:Overlord Sun, 09 January 2011 23:43
I now have both a second core game and one of the battle maps (a second is on the way), but so far I haven't played an Overlord scenario yet. Perhaps I will start with playing an Overlord map with two players, just as normal. I don't have so much real-life players around that I could play an eight-person match. What I wonder most about is whether the battle maps, being made of paper, are robust and durable enough to be a real match for the board maps. Their advantage, though, is that they are ready to play and you don't need lots of tiles (in most cases you would need at least two copies of the core game and / or a particular expansion to recreate a battle map with real tiles).
      
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Re:Overlord Mon, 10 January 2011 00:09
Have double all the boards but not Breakthrough (yet!), and in fact never play anything but Overlord -- it makes a far more interesting game.
      
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Re:Overlord Mon, 10 January 2011 01:05
Our group plays the pre printed maps almost exclusively along with the Overlord cards. Easy set up of course but limited in in re playability long term. We enjoy them a lot. I can't ever see myself owning multiple sets though. I'd prefer to borrow the additional sets needed from friends or our FLGS. OVerlord is great though
      
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Re:Overlord Mon, 10 January 2011 08:43
I've got them all, but rarely play the printed maps, despite the hug advantage of speed of setup.

We always play Overlord for various reasons: one is that by pushing the medal count up to at least ten, at least one of which MUST be for capturing particular hexes (otherwise you can only draw) it makes for a much more satisfying game: you set up a single board, and before you know it your opponent already has 4 of the 5 medals he needs to "win".

Then there's the pleasure in setting up a map which is (a) aesthetically pleasing (which, if I may say so, is often not the case with the official scenarios and many others) and which (b) is tactically interesting to play: exactly where do you place what terrain? Shifting good defensive terrain one hex forward or back can make all the difference to how a scenario plays.

(Plus the pleasure of actually finding that blasted lighthouse piece... Razz !)

Add in a careful choice of a limited number of house rules to make the scenario historically realistic and more interesting to play out...

Of course you can exactly the same on a single board, but Overlord doubles the play and the pleasure.

Remind me how much three Breakthrough boards would cost me Shocked !
      
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Re:Overlord Mon, 10 January 2011 15:43
Both, I've two of the base game and all army packs as well as all the Battle maps. I play way more Overlord than any other style of Memoir.
      
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Re:Overlord Mon, 10 January 2011 21:36
The Overlord Expansion is a must - for the specific Overlord Deck which is a triumph of design!
      
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Re:Overlord Mon, 10 January 2011 22:02

I have 2 sets of the basegame, 2 winter/desert boards(Thanks to Jed Remington that out of his own kindness sent me one of his. Thank You!) and 2 sets of Med.Theater.
I also have all 4 battlemaps and the Operation Overlord expansion.



My thoughts:
2 basegames gives you more scenarios (official and fanmade) and gives you more figures and the possibility to set up 2 standard scenarios at once. Great for campaign play.

Battlemaps have great scenarios and some added figures and cards.

Operation Overlord gives you the Overlord deck which IMHO eases play so much it is virtually a must have if you play Overlord. It also makes it easier for new players to play Overlord as they don't have to interpret what the card does.It is clearly written on the card.
      
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Re:Overlord Mon, 10 January 2011 23:44
Since I have been playing so much M44 online lately I have really been wanting to play some form of large scale M44 with my 4-5 person monthly board gaming group. I have been trying unsuccsessfully to get them to play M44 online with me. So I instead this week we will be playing the base game as a group. I know this is not ideal but I do not want to invest in Overlord without knowing if everyone is going to like it.

Based on what I have read here I think the route I will take (if people enjoy playing) is buying Operation Overlord with one of the battle maps. I like the idea of the battle maps since the set up time is greatly reduced and the low cost of entry for Operation Overlord.

So what is everyone's favorite battle map?

[Updated on: Mon, 10 January 2011 23:44]

      
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Re:Overlord Tue, 11 January 2011 01:10
deadwing34 wrote on Mon, 10 January 2011 17:44

So what is everyone's favorite battle map?

Specifically the Battlemaps? To me, it's clear. Sword of Stalingrad and Rats in a Factory. Because of the Combat cards.

Runner-up is Operation Market Garden (on the flip side of Tigers).
      
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Re:Overlord Tue, 11 January 2011 02:29
I play overlord at conventions. It is a great way to play memoir 44 and involve the most players. At the last con I went to, We played a campaign. I had enough sets to play three at once, but didn't get but two players. So that worked out.

Here is a pic of a game at one of the last two cons I went to:
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg214/ronh51/Games/DieCon9_07.jpg
      
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Re:Overlord Tue, 11 January 2011 03:40
deadwing34 wrote on Mon, 10 January 2011 17:44

So what is everyone's favorite battle map?



Tigers in the Snow is my personal favorite (scenario), although the Sword of Stalingrad and Rats in a Factory is my favorite pack.
      
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Re:Overlord Tue, 11 January 2011 06:22
Capture of Tobruk with Tigers in the Snow, being a close second.

      
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Re:Overlord Tue, 11 January 2011 18:01
A couple of other questions about the battle maps, how durable are they and how easy do they lie down flat?
      
Erik Uitdebroeck
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Re:Overlord Tue, 11 January 2011 18:10
I have a piece of plexiglass, exactly the size of a battle map.
      
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Re:Overlord Tue, 11 January 2011 18:56
Plexi seems a good idea.

I like playing on the pre-printed maps. Actually, although I own all the other expansions and maps twice, I never played Overlords on the hard boards. On second thoughts I did, but it was some time ago and the majority of the OLs I played was on the pre printed maps. It's far more easy deploying all your troops on pre-printed maps considering the time you win by not having to put all the terrain hexes on the board. Still I can get into the fact that this 'inventing' battle sceneries can be very inspiring too.

It's true that the seams sometimes interfere with troop positioning, but it's easily resolved by pushing the paper down flatly on your table top. I have no adverse experiences with the quality of the maps. Some Overlord pre printed maps have seen several battles yet and there is no damage yet.

We try to organise an Overlord session in our club each time a new pre printed map is released, for some reasons though we could not make it with the Tobruk map. Might be a good idea for the future too though.

[Updated on: Tue, 11 January 2011 19:50]

      
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Re:Overlord Tue, 11 January 2011 19:14
When I have put just regular games together at Cons, I have used Plexiglas to cover the board so the tiles don't get moved...

Not really that mobile, but cut to size helps.

Had two halves for the battle maps, easier to carry.

Need one in Breakthrough size now.

      
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Re:Overlord Tue, 11 January 2011 19:25
deadwing34 wrote on Tue, 11 January 2011 11:01

A couple of other questions about the battle maps, how durable are they and how easy do they lie down flat?


They are printed on some rather nice paper and are therefor durable within reason.

As for laying flat, I found that working them in a little by folding against the grain helps tremendously. With a little work, they can lay completely flat. They lay flatter than my snow/desert map that I got for X-Mas which I can't seem to work in for some reason. Mad
      
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Re:Overlord Tue, 11 January 2011 21:00
Erik's idea with the plexiglass is very interesting. Could somebody give me the exact dimensions of a battle map or two standard maps (in cm)? Yes, I own them, but I'm too lazy to dig into my cupboard, pull out the game, unfold it and measure it with my yardstick, so if one of you guys knows it without looking ... Very Happy
      
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Re:Overlord Wed, 12 January 2011 00:51
I have been using plexi-glass since last summer. It keeps the terrain tiles from moving. Below is a picture:
http://i249.photobucket.com/albums/gg214/ronh51/Games/2010Sept-09-11_14.jpg

I'm not sure where my tape measure is, otherwise, I would tell you the size.

      
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Re:Overlord Wed, 12 January 2011 21:11
If all goes well, I will be playing Overlord this Saturday for the first time with my board gaming group. I was able to find a copy of Hedgerow Hell at my FLGS and they have Operation Overlord on order for me to be in on Friday. I can't wait I just hope they can get in Overlord for me in time. Any advice on which board to play on 1st for Hedgerow Hell?
      
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Re:Overlord Wed, 12 January 2011 23:39
deadwing34 wrote on Wed, 12 January 2011 21:11

If all goes well, I will be playing Overlord this Saturday for the first time with my board gaming group. I was able to find a copy of Hedgerow Hell at my FLGS and they have Operation Overlord on order for me to be in on Friday. I can't wait I just hope they can get in Overlord for me in time. Any advice on which board to play on 1st for Hedgerow Hell?


Hedgerow Hell is my favourite of the two included.
      
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Re:Overlord Wed, 12 January 2011 23:49
I now measured it, and I found that the battlemaps are roughly 70 x 140 cm in size. Two standard boards would be about 50 x 150 cm.

[Updated on: Wed, 12 January 2011 23:50]

      
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Re:Overlord Fri, 14 January 2011 04:48
Our group played Hedgerow Hell first and then Cadets second. We used HH as a learning game as we had many new players. It is also the scenario of the two that is least balanced (based on the battle reports I've seen).

After that we switched to Cadets to play a more balanced game once folks had some experience under their belt.

Have fun! Overlord is great!
      
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Re:Overlord Thu, 20 January 2011 19:25
Benzin wrote on Sun, 09 January 2011 14:18

Hey guys,

I was wondering, how do most people play overlord scenario´s. Do most of you have all maps in double, or improvise the second map or you only use preprinted maps?

regards

Benzin


I have 2 of each type of map, including 2 base sets and the overlord expansion, etc. However, I did not acquire all the expansions and boards at the same time (as I expect is the case for most players). I played my first overlord game after I bought two base sets. Then battle maps came along and I bought them. I used to mix two sets of cards but then decided that was a pain, so I bought the overlord expansion. Only recently did I buy a second winter/desert map (when Winter Wars came out).

If I were you, I would explore overlord by either buying 2 base sets and/or some of the pre-printed battle maps and the Overlord expansion. Once you decide you like it, buy the other maps, and the overlord expansion (if you went with the 2 base sets). The Overlord expansion is a must if you decide you are going to play overlord regularly.

Basically, once I got really hooked on the game, I just started acquiring everything. You will reach that threshold at some point I bet.
      
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Re:Overlord Mon, 24 January 2011 16:59
Hooray! After waiting for an hour at the customs office, I finally was able to get hold of my "Hedgerow Hell" battle map today! The only online shops I found that were still selling that out of print-expansion were in Australia and Switzerland, but as the Aussies won't ship to Europe, I gave the Eidgenossen a try. I ordered the map at a dubious Swiss gameshop, payed 77 SFr (!) for the game and 12 ¤ customs fee, and here I am! I guess I'm just getting addicted ... Very Happy
      
    
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