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Vulch

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Becoming a Major
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Wed, 05 January 2011 18:16
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Anyone done this yet?
I now have every available award and have won every scenario on both sides, except for Point Du Hoc as Axis, which try as I might I cannot win, although I have outperformed.
Are we waiting for the armour over-run award to be fixed before any of us can advance to Major?
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stevens

Posts: 2741
Registered: February 2007
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Re:Becoming a Major
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Wed, 05 January 2011 19:05

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I think you have to win a scenario with your eyes closed.
Called the BLIND LUCK award.
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Jokull

Posts: 225
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Re:Becoming a Major
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Wed, 05 January 2011 19:30

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I have won every scenario... both sides, including the Point.
I haven´t made Major either.
The only one that has made it in 2009 and is one of the programing team.
I'd say they haven't opened it yet.
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Vulch

Posts: 404
Registered: May 2009
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Re:Becoming a Major
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Wed, 05 January 2011 20:11

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| Vulch wrote on Wed, 05 January 2011 17:16 | Anyone done this yet?
I now have every available award and have won every scenario on both sides
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Including PDH as of a few minutes ago.
Nothing left to prove, gimme that crown
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Mighty Jim 83

Posts: 333
Registered: August 2009
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Re:Becoming a Major
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Sat, 08 January 2011 09:47

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what are people's win percentages like?
maybe it's not so much about having won all the battles, but about not having too many heavy defeats in there with them?
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stevens

Posts: 2741
Registered: February 2007
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Re:Becoming a Major
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Sat, 08 January 2011 12:48

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I think if you look at the scoreboard for folks with:
-over 200 games played
-scores over 1700
-possessing all of the current 16 available awards
you will not find a major in the bunch.
So my conjecture is that either the winning formula has yet to be reached or possibly some of the medal awards necessary to advance have yet to be activated.
.... SUCH AS ARMOR SPECIALIST
http://www.daysofwonder.com/memoir44-online/en/achievements/ recent/?achievement=27
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Turboheizer

Posts: 420
Registered: February 2006
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Re:Becoming a Major
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Sat, 08 January 2011 13:10

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Let's be patient, guys ... wait for Beta 15.
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Phread

Posts: 1734
Registered: December 2008
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Re:Becoming a Major
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Mon, 10 January 2011 02:01

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| Turboheizer wrote on Sun, 09 January 2011 01:55 | Let's be patient, guys ... wait for Beta 15.
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I hope that Beta 15 isn't far away, and that it will enable some new promotions (not just Major) and some new awards as I'm almost at the been-there done-that feeling know having won every scenario with both sides ...
Roll on Beta 15.
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Turboheizer

Posts: 420
Registered: February 2006
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Re:Becoming a Major
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Fri, 14 January 2011 17:43

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As we have the first Majors now amongst us (Congratulations!), what requirements did you fulfill? Did you reach a certain skill score (maybe 1700?)
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Caboose

Posts: 1594
Registered: May 2004
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Re:Becoming a Major
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Fri, 14 January 2011 17:52

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| Turboheizer wrote on Fri, 14 January 2011 09:43 | As we have the first Majors now amongst us (Congratulations!), what requirements did you fulfill? Did you reach a certain skill score (maybe 1700?)
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It was a database issue - if you read the beta 15 notes. So doubtful the current majors might know what caused them to be majors. Thus future majors might be able to fill in the details on how.
Cab
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rasmussen81

Posts: 6111
Registered: July 2007
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Re:Becoming a Major
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Fri, 14 January 2011 18:04

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I don't think it has anything to do with being at a certain skill level (1700 or anything like that) because I've never had a skill level that high. Reading the clues online, it has more to do with getting certain achievements and playing a set number of battles.
Other than that, I don't know what I did to be promoted! Good luck in your quest for Major status!!
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Turboheizer

Posts: 420
Registered: February 2006
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Re:Becoming a Major
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Fri, 14 January 2011 18:37

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Well, I saw a Major with only 70 battles, and I have more, so that can't be the missing link. I also played and won all 17 battles of Beta 14 on both sides, and I have the 17 known achievements. If somebody gets enlightened as to what is needed, let me know.
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eric

Posts: 3016
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Re:Becoming a Major
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Fri, 14 January 2011 18:44

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| Turboheizer wrote on Fri, 14 January 2011 09:37 | Well, I saw a Major with only 70 battles, and I have more, so that can't be the missing link. I also played and won all 17 battles of Beta 14 on both sides, and I have the 17 known achievements. If somebody gets enlightened as to what is needed, let me know.
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Make sure you play against a variety of opponents too.
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Caboose

Posts: 1594
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Re:Becoming a Major
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Fri, 14 January 2011 18:57

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| eric wrote on Fri, 14 January 2011 10:44 |
| Turboheizer wrote on Fri, 14 January 2011 09:37 | Well, I saw a Major with only 70 battles, and I have more, so that can't be the missing link. I also played and won all 17 battles of Beta 14 on both sides, and I have the 17 known achievements. If somebody gets enlightened as to what is needed, let me know.
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Make sure you play against a variety of opponents too.
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You mean it's not constantly asking for DoW to offer things for free?
Oh wait, that is how to become a major Pain....Never mind! 
Cab
(and yes this was done in tongue-in-cheek - to amuse DoW folks as well as others with the issues today!)
p.s - Can you sticky the Windows Vista with a fix thread? Thanks.
[Updated on: Fri, 14 January 2011 18:59]
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southoftheborder
Posts: 35
Registered: April 2008
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Re:Becoming a Major
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Fri, 14 January 2011 21:02

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Bitter - sweet moment!
Made Major after my first game with beta 15.
At the same time, fell to 1458 points - my lowest ever!
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Krank

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Registered: December 2010
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Re:Becoming a Major
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Sat, 15 January 2011 02:05

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I also got Major after my first battle with release 15. And gaining points! I have no idea how to become major, but I guess you have to win of captains a lot 
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Phread

Posts: 1734
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rasmussen81

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Jokull

Posts: 225
Registered: May 2008
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Re:Becoming a Major
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Sat, 15 January 2011 11:11

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Pitty that since so many of us are getting the promotion automatically since they have opened it we can't figure out the how...
I'd like to know the how and why.
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stevens

Posts: 2741
Registered: February 2007
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Re:Becoming a Major
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Sat, 15 January 2011 16:04

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Dear DOW:
Thank you for the opportunity for advancement. From my current playing experience with BETA 15 I think things are improving nicely. Keep up the good work.
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Randwulf

Posts: 1356
Registered: March 2005
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Re:Becoming a Major
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Sat, 15 January 2011 19:14

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I played, and got my Major. We swapped and I killed two single fig units in a over run and got my badge.
Thus... the over run Badge is not needed for promotion.
Not really sure if any Badges are needed for promotion.
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sbauer9
Posts: 27
Registered: June 2005
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Re:Becoming a Major
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Sat, 15 January 2011 23:16

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So what are the requirements for Lieutenant Colonel?
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AJBQC

Posts: 63
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Re:Becoming a Major
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Sun, 16 January 2011 01:05

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I just got promoted to Major after playing Gallabat and Metema. I played the Allies, so it was not that difficult. Obviously, I have played other games too. But it did not just happen my first game after Beta 15.
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ppodahu

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Re:Becoming a Major
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Sun, 16 January 2011 13:25

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Of course, that is a really good question!
We achieved the promotion to major, but what's next...
What are the conditions to become Oberstleutnant? I guess HQ is still negotiating about them. As I see nobody met the requirments even among test crew.
Maybe after the launch of next beta upgrade....
No matter, I'll keep on playing!
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Morgiliath

Posts: 165
Registered: January 2011
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Becoming a Major - some clues
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Wed, 19 January 2011 16:37

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I have just been promoted to major (due to a glich in HQ system, no doubt), and as I am one of the new guys (i.e. I didn't play hundreds of games before when major was still locked), will try to provide as much info as possible for those who look for clues.
I have all unlocked ribbons and awards, except for "historian" and "arnhem tree".
Amount of games: 82 (after 82nd I got promoted)
Played as Axis: 42 overperformed: 29
Played as Allies: 40 overperformed: 30
Victories against human players: 49 (if i calculate correctly)
Score against computer: abysmal 10/19...
As for the gamut of opponents, I haven't played against anyone with Japanese rank (I think, unless a player named Naruto was Japanese, but my memories don't serve me...), so that theory doesn't fit. I definitely played against all ranks, from cadet to major, and scored victories against all of them.
That's pretty much all I can think of, if anyone has any questions, ask.
Btw- last game was a match 3-4 4-0 counterattack on Mortain.
Morgiliath
One more thing: my rank in M'44 - 26
my rank in M'44 solo - 92
points 1674 before promotion, in the last battle i received 11 points, so I had 1663 as Captain.
[Updated on: Wed, 19 January 2011 20:46]
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stevie02

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Re:Becoming a Major - some clues
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Wed, 19 January 2011 19:23

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I got promoted to Major today after 200+ games. I had played all senarios as allies and axis except Vassieux as axis, so I decided to have a go (not my favorite one) as soon as I played it I got promoted. That possibly suggests playing all senarios as either side is nesessary. I dunno.
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toddcalu

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Re:Becoming a Major
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Wed, 19 January 2011 21:28

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Adding to the hints: In my 96th battle I made Major after an easy win against a Cadet playing the Axis in Gallabat. I've played and won this scenario before as Axis, so I don't know that it's tied to winning from both sides.
I've seen inferences for the prior Captain promotion discussions that the promotion only took effect after the NEXT battle after you earned it. But my battle previous to earning major was the buggy Arnhem Bridge for which not being able to get on the bridge relegated me to a dismal loss.
Keep up the speculating. Yes, it doesn't matter, but yes, it is fun advancing up the ranks.
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toddcalu

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Re:Becoming a Major
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Wed, 19 January 2011 22:02

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Sorry, one more thing. Major isn't tied to winning every scenario from both sides. I just got fussy enough to check and put it all in a spreadsheet (what a geek!). I haven't won Pointe-du-Hoc at all - only played twice - I'm useless in Counter-Attack (7 losses, mostly as Axis, but really) - and never played Juno as Axis. And no, I don't have every medal.
So in reviewing recent events, the only things that stick out are the following oddities that seem too minor to promote to major:
- My last victory was my 51st against real opponents, not bots, and the award is only handed out after the next win after you pass 50. But too many new Majors come about after hundreds of battles, so that can't be it.
- 2 games ago I was taunted by playing Arnhem as Axis without being able to cross the bridge - maybe it was a pity award.
- 3 games ago I lost but out-performed for the 5th time in my service
- 4 games ago I played Hermann for the first time in a really long time.
Got it figured out?
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Morgiliath

Posts: 165
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Re:Becoming a Major
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Wed, 19 January 2011 22:39

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the 50 victories seem to ring a bell... can any of you shed some light on it?
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deadwing34

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Re:Becoming a Major
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Thu, 20 January 2011 00:04

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I bet it is 50 battles, I have almost every award now and I am at 46 battles against human opponents. I will try and play more tonight and see if I can get to 51 battles.
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Randwulf

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Re:Becoming a Major
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Thu, 20 January 2011 00:39

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I think it is more along the line of 50 wins...
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Morgiliath

Posts: 165
Registered: January 2011
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deadwing34

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Re:Becoming a Major
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Thu, 20 January 2011 01:24

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I got a ways to go then, it does say only a dozen victories though.
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Squiffy Trubshaw
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Re:Becoming a Major
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Thu, 20 January 2011 12:25

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I just made major today. Not sure how many victories I have; doesn't seem to be an easy way to count them.
What is certain though, is that I don't have all medals/awards. I'm missing infantry commando specialist, and armour specialist.
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Morgiliath

Posts: 165
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Re:Becoming a Major
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Thu, 20 January 2011 15:00

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Congrats to Squiffy Trubshaw on joining the Majors 
As for counting the victories, you can either do it the old-fashioned way: counting off the screen (as I did, but prone to mistakes), or the state-of-the-art way, as toddcalu did, putting all your matches in a spreadsheet - kudoz to toddcalu, I don't think you're a geek. My favourite board Memoir partner calculated all the probabilities of killing a given number of units with a given number of dice, with or without flags... As this involved Bernoulli's distribution, it was no easy job. Did I call anyone a geek? no way!
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Vulch

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Re:Becoming a Major
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Thu, 20 January 2011 15:12

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| toddcalu wrote on Wed, 19 January 2011 21:02 | I just got fussy enough to check and put it all in a spreadsheet (what a geek!).
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Mmmmmmm I love a good spreadsheet
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rasmussen81

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Re:Becoming a Major
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Thu, 20 January 2011 15:16

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| Morgiliath wrote on Thu, 20 January 2011 03:50 | I think Randwulf is right. It must be 50 wins against human opponents.
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"Normal Mode" games are the only type of game that counts toward military rank promotion, achievements, or rank points. So unless you're playing against other people (human opponents, as Morgiliath said) you aren't moving yourself forward in the ranking or promotion area.
There is a separate Solo rank system in place, but nobody seems to care as much about that ranking.
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Arago

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Re:Becoming a Major
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Thu, 20 January 2011 15:24

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| Morgiliath wrote on Thu, 20 January 2011 16:00 | My favourite board Memoir partner calculated all the probabilities of killing a given number of units with a given number of dice, with or without flags... As this involved Bernoulli's distribution, it was no easy job.
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Shouldn't that say: "It was an easy job, because you just use the Bernoulli distribution" ? Anyway, I don't mean to belittle - I too try to quantify the luck element in any game that I play that has one.
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Boddekker

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Re:Becoming a Major
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Fri, 21 January 2011 05:31

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I took the clue to heart about a variety of opponents and invited someone with the German Major rank and 200+ games to play Operation Cobra. I've got a lot of experienced opponents online, but I've had a larger number of newer players, especially friends getting into the Online system.
It was my game number 95. I lost badly.
And I still got promoted to Major.
I don't think it was the number of battles, or the difficulty (which is why I deliberately chose Cobra, one of the most balanced scenarios).
Methinks it's the variety of opponents you choose - cadets to Majors, newbs to pros, zero games to hundreds.
Maybe...
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LooneyLlama

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Re:Becoming a Major
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Sat, 22 January 2011 17:50

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I just became major last night. I already had over 50 wins against numerous opponents and was still captain. However, I had not played all the original 16 scenarios. The only one I hadn't played was Point Du Hoc. I played it last night, won(as Axis as I didn't want to take advantage of anyone in my quest to see if this would be a requirement), and immediately on completion was promoted. I now think you would have to have played all the original 16 scenarios and have 50 wins. You may also have to have won each of them at least once. I know I have won all the other ones at least once. It would have been interesting to see if I would have been promoted if I had lost. Anyway, see you online.
Eric
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