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ChizelMonkee

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Quick Tigers in the Snow Question
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Thu, 20 January 2011 07:11
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We've been playing Overlord monthly at our FLGS. Just picked up TitS for our next round in February.
I noticed that for the scenario with the Russians, the Russian command rules are not listed and I therefore assume are not in effect.
While I imagine one can write the scenario any way one wants, I didn't know Army-specific rules were optional. For instance, I've never seen a scenario with the British where the BCF rules weren't in play.
So do I have that right, the Russian command rules (with the Commisar chip) aren't in play for Tigers in the Snow?
Thanks
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Erik Uitdebroeck

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ChizelMonkee

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rasmussen81

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Re:Quick Tigers in the Snow Question
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Thu, 20 January 2011 09:34

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The Russian Command Rules are not in effect in that scenario...and you'll find that they aren't in effect in many normal sized scenarios as well.
The reason for this is because at the start of World War II the Russian generals had to report to a political commisar and the commisar usually had the final say on tactics and such. Later in the war this practice wasn't used as much, though I'm not enough of a historian yet to be able to tell you more.
It was not a mistake. You don't play with the Russian Command Rules unless they are listed.
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ad79

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Re:Quick Tigers in the Snow Question
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Thu, 20 January 2011 11:00

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| rasmussen81 wrote on Thu, 20 January 2011 09:34 | The Russian Command Rules are not in effect in that scenario...and you'll find that they aren't in effect in many normal sized scenarios as well.
The reason for this is because at the start of World War II the Russian generals had to report to a political commisar and the commisar usually had the final say on tactics and such. Later in the war this practice wasn't used as much, though I'm not enough of a historian yet to be able to tell you more.
It was not a mistake. You don't play with the Russian Command Rules unless they are listed.
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The use of political commisars was stopped during/after the battle of Stalingrad, so scenarios set before or during that battle(oct/nov 42)uses teh rule, and scenarios set after Stalingrad doesn't use it.
You can find more info on Wikipedia if you search for polical commisar or Russian command structure.
Stig Morten
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rasmussen81

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Re:Quick Tigers in the Snow Question
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Thu, 20 January 2011 11:37

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I thought I remembered the change having to do with a major battle but I couldn't remember if it was Stalingrad, Petrograd, or Moscow. Thanks for the information, Stig Morten!
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ChizelMonkee

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Re:Quick Tigers in the Snow Question
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Thu, 20 January 2011 15:12
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Wow, great insight everyone. I just thought of it as a general aspect of the Soviet command structure not to a specific period.
I really appreciate the responses. One of the neat things for me about M44 is getting reacquainted with WWII history which I used to read up on when I was much younger.
Off to wikipedia . . .
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