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StrafingRunGames
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Being Outbid - how does this work? Wed, 02 February 2011 17:43
I know it is probably a bit premature to start discussing CN rules but hopefully someone has the answer or we can at least start speculating until we actually play!

I seem to have the rules pretty much figured out with the exception of how bidding works.

Let's say I go first and I put a ship with 3 coins on a particular Port.

The next guy also wants this port's cargo and places a ship with 4 coins.

The third player also wants it (it is a REALLY good cargo at this port!) and places a ship with 5 coins.

Does the port go to the guy who placed 5 coins? Seems rather unfair to the player who goes first. Or does the first player simply leave his ship there and add more coins next turn, thus "freezing" this port and all it's assets until next turn?

I am very confused about this - not too clear imo.

Thanks!
      
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Re:Being Outbid - how does this work? Thu, 03 February 2011 00:33
As I read the rules, it's pretty clear that it doesn't automatically go to the third player who played 5. The phase I rules say that the player "purchases ALL the Cargo in this Port, if his stack of coins is the only one (remaining) there."

Since each player does all 3 phases in order, then ends their turn, I think to continue your scenario it might go like this:

On player 1's next turn, in Phase I he decides to outbid the others by adding 3 to his stack.

On player 2's turn, he decides the action is too rich and abandons the port, taking his ship and coins back. In Phase III he can redeploy the ship to a different port.

Player 3 does the same thing and abandons the port and also redeploys his ship in Phase III.

Finally, on player 1's next turn, being the only ship left in port, he gets the cargo. And since that resolution is done in Phase I, he can now move that ship to a different port in Phase III, or keep the ship there and open the bidding for the new cargo.

If I'm correct about this, I think the mechanics work pretty well...the first player seems to have a disadvantage by being easy to outbid in this particular port, but remember that he can just as easily abandon the port and go "outbid" player 3 somewhere else in subsequent turns. Plus at least on the very first turn player 1 has the chance to be super-aggressive and open the bidding high in his favored port. If he can intimidate the others to stay away, he'll immediately bank that first cargo on turn 2 and can then jump into a bidding war somewhere else, assuming he still has some coins of course.

[Updated on: Thu, 03 February 2011 00:39]

      
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Re:Being Outbid - how does this work? Thu, 03 February 2011 06:37
Correct. The bidding only stops once all players but one have stopped bidding up!
      
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Re:Being Outbid - how does this work? Thu, 03 February 2011 18:32
Thanks. Yes I have been giving this some thought and also doing a little research on the BGG.

I think I understand now - all I need is some plastic ships, a game board and some chips and we will be in business!
      
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Re:Being Outbid - how does this work? Tue, 22 February 2011 22:54
I was able/honored to Demo this game throughout this past weekend at the Orccon event in Los Angeles.
I found it most helpful to explain the bidding in terms of "the last man standing" rather than "highest bidder". It's really more intimidation than poker-style bidding, since the rules state that you must bid higher to compete in a port--you can't stick around with a smaller stack, just to tie-up the cargo, capital & ships, nor can you just match a bid.
      
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Re:Being Outbid - how does this work? Wed, 23 February 2011 07:29
And if you overbid an opponent (during phase 3 of your turn), you will have to wait until phase 1 of your next turn (and hope nobody outbid you between now and then) to get the goods.
      
    
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