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Harkness
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Anyone else playing who has NEVER played the boardgame? Tue, 01 February 2011 19:29
My only real gaming partner is my wife and she thinks "Memoir 44" sounds pretty boring. So this has kept me from purchasing the boardgame -- though I have been interested in it for several years.

I just signed up for the online beta and I'm wondering if it will be as much fun if I haven't played the boardgame yet? (The idea of physically rolling dice and pushing plastic army men and tanks around sounds like half the fun.) Will I be missing anything?
      
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Re:Anyone else playing who has NEVER played the boardgame? Tue, 01 February 2011 19:55
I've played the board game a lot (as can probably be deduced from how many posts I've added to the forums here) so I can't speak to your question from the same point of view...

But Memoir '44 is an excellent representation of the board game and it feels very much like you're still pushing plastic men around the board and rolling dice! In addition, you aren't the only person I've 'met' who is joining Memoir '44 Online without having ever played the board game version.

I suspect that the only think you'll be missing is the interpersonal communication aspect of playing a physical game. Online we tend to 'talk' back and forth, teasing each other or commenting on the game, but it's not the same as being across a real table from someone. But it's a pretty close second!! Cool
      
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Re:Anyone else playing who has NEVER played the boardgame? Tue, 01 February 2011 20:03
While there is no substitute for holding the dice in your hand before rolling and physically moving Memoir44 Online comes a close second.
There is also no set up, pack away time, pieces don't get lost. It is eaasier to find an opponent. The rules are better enforced.

Download the rules for the base game from the DoW website (if you haven't already done this). Read these to get a better feel for the gaming system.

I've now played many more online games then offline games. Hope we meet on the field of battle someday.
      
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Re:Anyone else playing who has NEVER played the boardgame? Tue, 01 February 2011 21:00
To the contrary, I have made it a rule that I only play scenarios on M44O that I have played on the board before. As a consequence, I spent much of the last months playing the M44O scenarios, first on the board and then online, until Beta 16 gave me a break. Smile
      
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Re:Anyone else playing who has NEVER played the boardgame? Wed, 02 February 2011 02:21
I'm not exactly in your situation, but close. I've probably only played 30 games of M44 face-to-face with all the cool game components. Unfortunately there's all girls in my household. They like playing games, just not M44.

I think the online version is very well done. I think someone said "it's a close second" to playing face to face. I agree.

The thing I like most about it is that I've played opponents from all over the globe. Obviously something I probably wouldn't have been able to do without M44 Online (VASSAL, while very cool, was was a little too much for me to deal with technically).

I will say that M44 Online does make me look forward to playing face-to-face even more. I've found that after 100 games or so I want to play a variety of different scenarios, not available online yet.

I know there is Expert mode, but I find I have to fiddle around too much with that. Perhaps my attitude that will change if there continues to be a lack of local, face-to-face opponents. But if I'm going to mess around with details of game play I'd rather get the real components out and play with them.
      
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Re:Anyone else playing who has NEVER played the boardgame? Wed, 02 February 2011 05:18
I have played it face to face but only 2 or 3 times when it first came out and not since. It was fine as a face to face game but not a game I needed to buy.

As an online game I think it is great. I find many online games it is hard to find players but have not had a problem with Memoir.
      
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Re:Anyone else playing who has NEVER played the boardgame? Wed, 02 February 2011 06:39
Thanks for the responses. If I bought the game I would probably play it solo. (Though my wife has said she is willing to "try" it.)

I may pick it up, as I have a feeling that I will appreciate the online game more if I learn to play the boardgame first. There's something sort of enjoyable about learning the rules to a new game, while consulting the manual. And I think with Memoir 44, in particular, it would be nice to have that experience. So that when I'm playing online I'd be thinking about the boardgame. (Playing Madden wouldn't be as much fun if I hadn't seen [American] football on television.)

[Updated on: Wed, 02 February 2011 18:35]

      
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Re:Anyone else playing who has NEVER played the boardgame? Wed, 02 February 2011 07:07
My wife was a ticket to ride player who thought Memoir 44 sounded lame, but now she enjoys it. I've found the online version really handy for learning rules we've been too lazy to learn how to play properly..."hey! armor in towns only get one die!"

I still prefer the real thing to the online game but the variety of opponents is cool, and there is some very nice players online (generally much better than TTR, where top players tend to be arrogant IMHO).
      
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Re:Anyone else playing who has NEVER played the boardgame? Wed, 02 February 2011 07:18
Kiwi Jessie wrote on Wed, 02 February 2011 10:07

there is some very nice players online (generally much better than TTR, where top players tend to be arrogant IMHO).


I too am very impressed with the caliber and quality of Memoir '44 Online players! This game must attract a certain kind of person...or it lends itself to more relaxed play. I think it also helps that we started with such a supportive and positive forum community! We tend to encourage each other, answer questions, talk respectfully even when we disagree, and we avoid public humiliation.

Kudos to the Memoir '44 community!! Keep up the good work... Cool
      
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Re:Anyone else playing who has NEVER played the boardgame? Wed, 02 February 2011 13:59
and we avoid public humiliation.

I have tried to avoid it, but my BIG mouth has caused me some humiliation.

Laughing Embarassed Laughing
      
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Re:Anyone else playing who has NEVER played the boardgame? Wed, 02 February 2011 15:47
stevens wrote on Wed, 02 February 2011 16:59

and we avoid public humiliation.

I have tried to avoid it, but my BIG mouth has caused me some humiliation.

Laughing Embarassed Laughing


Yes, well...we weren't going to say anything! Very Happy

Maybe I should amend my previous statement and say that we don't publicly humiliate anyone else! People are still welcome to humiliate themselves! Laughing

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Re:Anyone else playing who has NEVER played the boardgame? Wed, 02 February 2011 15:57
Humiliation!!! I played Johnnybot the other day, Pegasus Bridge, I was the Allies... the Bot won 4 to 0 in like four turns with 80% hit rate...

That was humiliating...
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Re:Anyone else playing who has NEVER played the boardgame? Thu, 03 February 2011 21:04
Just a quick followup: I bought the boardgame last night (it was less than $38.00 from Amazon, with no tax and free shipping).

Not sure if my wife will be joining me for too many games, but I've been reading up on some ideas for solo play. So that should be fun.

On a related note to all of this, it's cold and rainy this time of year, and the kid is grown, which means my Saturdays and Sundays are pretty free. So after the game arrives I may have a Memoir 44 themed weekend, where I play the boardgame, play the online game, watch some WWII movies and maybe start on a good historical book or novel. Any "inspirational" book or film recommendations? I think Ambrose wrote a book about Pegasus Bridge and I know that's one of the scenarios in the game...
      
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Re:Anyone else playing who has NEVER played the boardgame? Thu, 03 February 2011 22:05



The Bedford Boys
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The Longest Day
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Band Of Brothers
Citizen Soldiers
D-Day: The Climactic Battle of World War II
All by Stephen Ambrose

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Re:Anyone else playing who has NEVER played the boardgame? Fri, 04 February 2011 17:25
Harkness wrote on Thu, 03 February 2011 20:04

Any "inspirational" book or film recommendations? I think Ambrose wrote a book about Pegasus Bridge and I know that's one of the scenarios in the game...


http://www.daysofwonder.com/uploads/userpages/545877/_4277_web.jpg


Available from Amazon. My favourite D-Day book.

[Updated on: Fri, 04 February 2011 17:26]

      
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Re:Anyone else playing who has NEVER played the boardgame? Thu, 10 February 2011 20:58
Wow, it's going to be a great weekend! I'm reading "The Longest Day" on my iPad, the boardgame came in the mail last night, and today there is a new version of the online game -- with more scenarios!

While I'm posting I have a couple of questions about the rules:

1. The Pegasus Bridge scenario says that the Axis player can use the bunkers as defensive positions. I understand the benefits provided by the bunkers, but if an allied unit moves to (an empty) bunker hex is it just treated like a normal hex? (I'm sure it still has line-of-sight penalties.)

2. In that same scenario it says that taking either bridge will earn a victory medal for the Allies. (As long as they are occupying the correct hex.) This medal goes away if they lose the bridge. I assume it can be gained again if they retake the bridge. Correct?

Thanks for any help.
      
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Re:Anyone else playing who has NEVER played the boardgame? Thu, 10 February 2011 23:02
Yes and Yes.
      
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Re:Anyone else playing who has NEVER played the boardgame? Thu, 10 February 2011 23:33
As Vulch said you're right on about the treatment of the bunkers, but perhaps you mean a different scenario: there aren't any bunkers in play in Pegasus Bridge. There is the sandbag hex that the Axis gets to start in but unlike bunkers the sandbags go away as soon as the hex is vacated...if you're playing a live game as the Allies make sure your opponent doesn't leave those sandbags up if you manage to push them back with a couple flags. Razz
      
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Re:Anyone else playing who has NEVER played the boardgame? Mon, 14 February 2011 22:46
I played the board game once, by myself. Otherwise, I'm all online. I've got a buddy who'd love this, he just lives 40 minutes away.
      
    
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