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Sr_Garcia
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Ipad or Android Tablet Sat, 19 February 2011 23:30
HI.
It's possible play in the future this game in Ipad or in Android tablet? A lot of user wait this option.
Thanks.
      
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Re:Ipad or Android Tablet Sun, 20 February 2011 04:29
Sr_Garcia wrote on Sun, 20 February 2011 02:30

HI.
It's possible play in the future this game in Ipad or in Android tablet? A lot of user wait this option.
Thanks.


Maybe some day this will happen, but I'm afraid you'll be waiting a long time...it's not just an easy switch! Cool
      
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Re:Ipad or Android Tablet Thu, 24 February 2011 11:58
Android would be easier than iPad since Android has Java, and iPad doesn't. But even so, they will focus first on the Mac/PC version, and only then perhaps on tablets, if ever.
      
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Re:Ipad or Android Tablet Wed, 02 March 2011 19:48
IPad2 and M44 Online would make me happy Smile
      
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Re:Ipad or Android Tablet Thu, 03 March 2011 00:57
As pointed out the issues are not trivial:

iPad would require a complete rewrite (no JAVA, unlikely to change)

Android suffers from lack of commercial viability.

So for now the focus remains squarely on Mac/PC/Linux.

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Re:Ipad or Android Tablet Thu, 03 March 2011 02:31
david5272 wrote on Wed, 02 March 2011 22:48

IPad2 and M44 Online would make me happy Smile


Well, I just got an e-mail announcing the iPad2...so while we may not see Memoir '44 Online for the device for a long time, at least you can get the iPad 2 on March 11th!!

http://store.apple.com/us/browse/home/shop_ipad/family/ipad/ start?mco=OTY2ODA0NQ
      
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Re:Ipad or Android Tablet Tue, 08 March 2011 22:00
nice work DOW!!!! You guys rock!

Small World for iPad wins
Pocket Gamer Award




      
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Re:Ipad or Android Tablet Wed, 25 January 2012 21:51
eric wrote on Wed, 02 March 2011 18:57

Android suffers from lack of commercial viability.



I get really annoyed every time I see something like this.

Of course, I'm an Android user who is ready to buy something like this.

Heck, since Memoir 44 is online, if they'd just release the API to their servers, the Android developer community would probably write the app for them. (Or even write several of them.)

My guess is that the API isn't "safe" and/or they have a narrow-minded anti-open-source attitude towards software.
      
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Re:Ipad or Android Tablet Thu, 26 January 2012 01:22
Either that or they are a small crew with a hell of a lot on their plate. With all due respect, and as this question has been debated a lot here I think you should read the forum more thoroughly before passing such harsh judgments

[Updated on: Thu, 26 January 2012 01:22]

      
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Re:Ipad or Android Tablet Thu, 26 January 2012 03:07
Alcore wrote on Thu, 26 January 2012 00:51

eric wrote on Wed, 02 March 2011 18:57

Android suffers from lack of commercial viability.



My guess is that the API isn't "safe" and/or they have a narrow-minded anti-open-source attitude towards software.



Or they are a company who needs to make money on a product...and they don't see Android devices as worth the risk or investment. Rolling Eyes

[Updated on: Thu, 26 January 2012 03:07]

      
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Re:Ipad or Android Tablet Thu, 26 January 2012 17:58
rasmussen81 wrote on Wed, 25 January 2012 21:07

Alcore wrote on Thu, 26 January 2012 00:51

My guess is that the API isn't "safe" and/or they have a narrow-minded anti-open-source attitude towards software.



Or they are a company who needs to make money on a product...and they don't see Android devices as worth the risk or investment. Rolling Eyes



I regret the "narrow" comment... but I stand by my original remarks otherwise. I note that the part I thought was the important part of the thought got trimmed by every person who responded and quoted me. So let me re-interject and amplify it:

Memoir 44's business model is to charge for PLAYING GAMES, not selling the software. Therefore they make more money if more people play, and software is an enabling development overhead cost.

However, they don't necessarily need to develop their own software. If they publish the API for the Memoir 44 server, and/or release the source code base for the existing Memoir 44 game client, then other outside developlers might well start doing a lot of the development work FOR THEM, FOR FREE.

Since they aren't selling the software now, giving away the source and leveraging the fan community to crowdsource some of the development would likely SAVE them development costs. The only way this is a losing proposition is if the underlying client to server protocol is inherently unsafe to expose to outside developers.

It does also mean that they will lose some degree of control over how the product might look for some users. While they can keep and maintain an official client, lots of unofficial ones would be able to circulate, and they might not adhere to the product identity "look and feel". (For instance, I'd be happy with a non-graphical interface, with no animations or sound, and a concise display of unit characteristics and capabilities.)

But regardless of look and feel, DOW makes its money when we play, and anything that allows us to play more SHOULD be viewed as a gain for them. Particularly if it results in LOWER development costs and a much wider range of platforms supported.

If the decision not to open-source the Memoir 44 client is purely one of "we must have marketing control", then I am disappointed.

DOWs other games don't use the same financial model. They actually do sell the software to get their reveue stream. So in that case, I understand the decision chain. But for Memoir 44, different conditions apply.
      
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Re:Ipad or Android Tablet Fri, 27 January 2012 00:38
In essence, you say (among other things, and I quite understand your views) that DoW would lose a bit of control. There's a critical problem here. Would they not mind, (should they release the client source code), that someone programmed an android / ipad / etc client, they would indeed mind about the quality of said product.

High quality has always been one of the cornerstones of DoW, as well as providing great services and care to their clients.

I quite agree that the more we play the more DoW makes money with memoir44. But if they can't guarantee the same level of quality as they always have, they surely won't go for it, and I don't blame them.

I remember another thread in the general discussion section of the forum, where someone said that android gives many different configuration for hardware, display, etc. According to him (I am not tech qualified, I just relay his idea) this would take some serious optimizing, which the small but passionate DoW crew probably couldn't manage unless they dropped all other projects they're working on.

That said, the market is quite new, and growing very rapidly. The remark you quote dates back to March 3rd of last year !

One other problem with your proposition is that with new versions of the game, come new rules, new ranks, etc. How then would DoW be able to ensure that all third party clients are up to date, that everyone can play all the battles available ?


Don't get me wrong, I would be one of the first to get this and play on my Ipad, and as you may see in the forum here and there I've always been a supporter of the game coming to new platforms.

[Updated on: Fri, 27 January 2012 00:38]

      
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Re:Ipad or Android Tablet Fri, 09 March 2012 11:57
While I'm less surprised to see an Android version, the iPad and Mac share a common code base, namely Objective C. I feel an iPad version would be the less 'work intensive' considering there's an existing Mac app. IMO of course and I've not done that kind of work myself, so it's more of an observation. A tablet (iPad or otherwise) would be a great platform for M44 online / pass 'n' play.

And as much as the PC version runs slow on my very old machine, I think a stripped down, 'crowd-sourced' version wouldn't be such a good gateway to the physical board game - maybe that's why they've not given the API's a public airing? I like the fact it looks just like my physical version and like hdescavernes says, the DoW seal of quality is consistent throughout their products. I'm sure a lot of online players progress onto buying the box set because of that, knowing they're going to get something of similar quality.
      
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Re:Ipad or Android Tablet Fri, 09 March 2012 16:25
Have a look here:

Kelly's Hero écrit le Wed, 29 February 2012 19:30

http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/splashtop-remote-desktop-for/ id382509315?mt=8&ign-mpt=uo%3D4

Of course there is no native M44 app, but this app allows to me play M44 online on my iPad as long as I'm on the same local network as my PC. I've played a half-dozen or so games this way now.

The app works very well. The graphics are sharp, the animations are smooth, etc. If there were a native M44 app for the iPad, this is how I would imagine it.

There is also a way that this app will let you access your PC from outside your local network, though I haven't tried that feature.

At the time of this posting, the app is 4.99 US


      
    
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