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ClanNatioy
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board game design Tue, 15 March 2011 00:37
I'm interested in the world of board game design and I was wondering what schooling is needed/prefered to get into this kind of career?

I'm more interested in the actual designing of the rules of play rather then creating board art and things of that nature.

Thanks in advance to anyone that can help me out with information.
      
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Re:board game design Tue, 15 March 2011 02:41
CarriCommander wrote on Tue, 15 March 2011 03:37

I'm interested in the world of board game design and I was wondering what schooling is needed/prefered to get into this kind of career?

I'm more interested in the actual designing of the rules of play rather then creating board art and things of that nature.

Thanks in advance to anyone that can help me out with information.


From what I've seen it doesn't necessarily have to do with education as much as a creative mind and a lot of time spent testing the ideas. I don't think there's a 'board game design' major in college...though that would be cool.

Let me know if you discover the formula for what people need to be a good board game designer; I'd be curious to hear what skill set it takes. Cool
      
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Re:board game design Tue, 15 March 2011 03:07
Thanks for the reply.

Yeah I thought it might have more to do with creativity but it doesn't hurt to check.

I thought being an English major might be a good way to go because it will give you the ability to write easier to understand and more coherent rules. But even then you would still have to be creative in coming up with the rules in the first place.

Then I thought maybe history If you go into making historical games. but then again you still have to be creative to apply the knowledge gained into a fun board game.

But I guess there's no school formula for getting into board game design. I'll just keep coming up with ideas at home.

And if you are on your own how does one make the board and playing pieces necessary for testing out a created game?

      
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Re:board game design Tue, 15 March 2011 03:14
CarriCommander wrote on Tue, 15 March 2011 06:07

And if you are on your own how does one make the board and playing pieces necessary for testing out a created game?


Ah, that part does take some schooling...I imagine you have to reach way back in your early education days and remember everything you learned in 'Arts and Crafts'!

Gather some construction paper, toilet paper tubes, cardboard, glue, scissors, pens, etc and get creative. A few of the mock-ups I've seen look pretty rough compared to the final production! Cool
      
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Re:board game design Tue, 22 March 2011 16:26
I've already created a game, way way back in the 70's. I wonder if anybody knows how to get a game published. I've been play-testing and improving my game since then. It is a space battle game, and I've even come up with an alien attack expansion where you defend the Earth against alien invaders, in space combat.

      
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Re:board game design Wed, 30 March 2011 11:06
50th wrote on Tue, 22 March 2011 19:26

I wonder if anybody knows how to get a game published.


You could always do the same thing Brummbar did with his World War I game...publish it yourself through a print-on-demand company. Smile

But I have no idea how you could get a game picked up by a large board game company without knowing someone. It's like they always say, "It's not what you know, it's who you know!" Razz
      
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Re:board game design Wed, 30 March 2011 12:25
rasmussen81 wrote on Wed, 30 March 2011 11:06

50th wrote on Tue, 22 March 2011 19:26

I wonder if anybody knows how to get a game published.


You could always do the same thing Brummbar did with his World War I game...publish it yourself through a print-on-demand company. Smile

But I have no idea how you could get a game picked up by a large board game company without knowing someone. It's like they always say, "It's not what you know, it's who you know!" Razz


Print on demand worked for Brummbar partly because he used components from an existing game, namely Memoir'44 and then he came up with scenario and rules. If he haden't used Memoir components he would have had to include a map and unit as printable material.

I helped playtest Dire Heroes made by Brummbar and he had done an incredible amount off work to get the rules as clear as possible, BUT, as is the case with Memoir scenarios designing, playtesting is vital. And another person doesn't know everything about the game you do, so the rules can be clear to you, but unclear to another person. It's just the nature of things, look at the BEL card. How many questions havn't we had about that card?

So, if you haven't already, you should look at getting someone else to playtest your rules/game. Some issues are bound to come up.

As for getting some big company to publish your game, they need to be made aware of first, but some companies doesn't axcept outside contributions.

Look at the company's gaming profile and ask yourself this question. Does my game suit this company?

Or selfpublish like you do with your Air Rules. Put the file of the game up on bgg.com and be active about it. Post it on the PnP geeklists, get someone to post about it, ask playtesters to write sessions report etc etc.

And if you manage it, get someone to make a vassal module of your game. That way people don't have to print anything if they don't want to.

Just some pointers from me, a Memoir player with 1 SFTF scenario and a small amount of playtest experience.

Good luck!
      
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Re:board game design Thu, 14 April 2011 16:09
I was lucky enough to have connections at a woodworking shop and am in the process of creating a good quality board and pieces to test play my game. I drew the board design in AutoCAD and my friend ran it through the CNC machine which copied the design onto a piece of MDF board. I am going to paint it and the hexagons he made for me. I will post some pics to show you the product.
      
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Re:board game design Thu, 14 April 2011 19:57
You also might want to playtest your game at various big game conventions (Origins is one) and then you might get some connections that way as well.

Just a thought
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Re:board game design Fri, 15 April 2011 19:10
Gwalcmai wrote on Thu, 14 April 2011 18:09

I was lucky enough to have connections at a woodworking shop and am in the process of creating a good quality board and pieces to test play my game. I drew the board design in AutoCAD and my friend ran it through the CNC machine which copied the design onto a piece of MDF board. I am going to paint it and the hexagons he made for me. I will post some pics to show you the product.


Sounds like a very useful connection! I would be very interested in seeing the product when you have a chance... Cool
      
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Re:board game design Fri, 15 April 2011 20:36
CarriCommander wrote on Mon, 14 March 2011 22:07



how does one make the board and playing pieces necessary for testing out a created game?




You can find a lot of generic 'game pieces' at online stores like this : http://www.boardgamedesign.com/pages/goshopping.htm



50th wrote on Tue, 22 March 2011 11:26

I wonder if anybody knows how to get a game published.




My father-in-law had some games made several years ago that he designed. They were very professionally done with a nice box and copyrights and everything. I'm not sure who/where he went to do it but it was sort of a self-published thing rather than getting in with an established game company. I imagine that is how many games get their start - self-published and then gets 'discovered' by a game company who buys the rights or something. You might be able to use the link above to do the printing. It looked like they could help with making your own games, anyway. When you get several professional-looking copies made, you may be able to market/sell it at a local game store, and get some publicity there to start with.

One day we found one of my father-in-laws games at a local thrift store. It was a mixed reaction: "Somebody outside of our family bought the game!" Smile And then, "Aw, they didn't like it" Sad lol
      
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Re:board game design Tue, 19 April 2011 01:30
I feel silly now that I promised pictures, but is that even possible? If so, how do I attach them in this thread? Thanks in advance for the help...
      
    
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