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Re:SMC 2011 - INFORMATION, SCHEDULES, RESULTS... Thu, 09 June 2011 13:42
Sysyphus wrote on Thu, 09 June 2011 00:56


Can TD also comment officialy their ruling about the SMC winner insulting one of his opponent during the tourney ?



Does someone need a rules refresher?

Here it is:

The TDs will not post any threads explaining their decisions and will not answer to any threads opened for this purpose.
      
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Re:SMC 2011 - INFORMATION, SCHEDULES, RESULTS... Thu, 09 June 2011 15:12
SHAME ON YOU


      
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Re:SMC 2011 - INFORMATION, SCHEDULES, RESULTS... Thu, 09 June 2011 15:17
Goscha écrit le Thu, 09 June 2011 08:04

onyx puffin schrieb am Thu, 09 June 2011 04:20


AND since thekid as next opponent is not accepting the delay;

THEREFORE: the winner of the SMC 2011 is thekid


PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

There is no delay in the final.

Rule: ROUND 5 (2 players) completed by June 14.

So KID has not to accept or not accept anything yet.
The 2nd finalist is in the time range for the final.
KID has NOTHING to do with the 2nd semfinal.



Unbelievable that a player wants to take a victory on this way.

No grats.








+1

really unbelievable for 99% of players... not for this player ...

now, just a essential question for the fun of this game : ...can we accept another tournament with this player???
      
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Re:SMC 2011 - INFORMATION, SCHEDULES, RESULTS... Thu, 09 June 2011 15:43
G70 foudecoasters wrote on Thu, 09 June 2011 09:12

SHAME ON YOU





For following the rules? Should I break the rules? Is that what you would like? And lets be real, if the situation were reversed and I was the one stalling a match, you know as well as everyone knows that'd you'd be one of the first yelling for me to be thrown out.

I followed the rules, if you don't like the rules you should have had them changed beforehand or change them for next year.
      
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Re:SMC 2011 - INFORMATION, SCHEDULES, RESULTS... Thu, 09 June 2011 15:54
thekid wrote on Thu, 09 June 2011 07:42

Sysyphus wrote on Thu, 09 June 2011 00:56


Can TD also comment officialy their ruling about the SMC winner insulting one of his opponent during the tourney ?



Does someone need a rules refresher?

Here it is:

The TDs will not post any threads explaining their decisions and will not answer to any threads opened for this purpose.



And here's one thing I almost missed and I'm sure many of you would have as well:

Sysyphus wrote on Thu, 09 June 2011 00:56


Can TD also comment officialy their ruling about the SMC winner insulting one of his opponent during the tourney ?



It's obvious that you asked for some sort of ruling here. What did you ask for?
      
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Re:SMC 2011 - INFORMATION, SCHEDULES, RESULTS... Thu, 09 June 2011 16:47
SHAME ON YOU !!!!


no other words for you



      
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Re:SMC 2011 - INFORMATION, SCHEDULES, RESULTS... Thu, 09 June 2011 18:14
For all users that really like TTR

Rui - Miguel will be played Friday.
For all those that like to have fun playing this game
For all those who like to watch thrilling semi-final games
For all those who dislike winning by ruling instead of outplaying the opp

JOIN THE PARTY

After our game is played the winner will contact the other finalist. The PM will be sent to TDs. So either me or rui will contact the other finalist 4 days before the FINAL deadline (14/06).
      
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Re:SMC 2011 - INFORMATION, SCHEDULES, RESULTS... Thu, 09 June 2011 19:04
There are 2 ways to play a tournament

a) playing the game
b) playing the system

It's a pity that somebody who has good chances to win applying a) obviously finds it more enjoyable to apply b)

Let's hope this stays a sad exception, otherwise me might lose many participants for future events.
      
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Re:SMC 2011 - INFORMATION, SCHEDULES, RESULTS... Thu, 09 June 2011 19:13
dea1 écrit le Thu, 09 June 2011 19:04

There are 2 ways to play a tournament

a) playing the game
b) playing the system

It's a pity that somebody who has good chances to win applying a) obviously finds it more enjoyable to apply b)

Let's hope this stays a sad exception, otherwise me might lose many participants for future events.




+1


and actually i think many participants of past events are not here just for that....

for have more a) we must stop the only b) .......
      
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Re:SMC 2011 - INFORMATION, SCHEDULES, RESULTS... Thu, 09 June 2011 19:31
G70 foudecoasters wrote on Thu, 09 June 2011

and actually i think many participants of past events are not here just for that....




Here's one where I actually agree with you, but you don't care about the players that I'm thinking about. Who are they? American players who got tired of playing in these tournaments and were ordered to only play during their work hours, never in their evenings when they got certain European opponents. There was no fairness, so they left and don't participate anymore, but hey who cares about them right?


      
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Re:SMC 2011 - INFORMATION, SCHEDULES, RESULTS... Thu, 09 June 2011 20:53
SHAME ON YOU !!!!!

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Re:SMC 2011 - INFORMATION, SCHEDULES, RESULTS... Thu, 09 June 2011 21:37
As an American, I'm embarrassed by kid's apparent mission to give our players a chance to play some games during our nighttime hours. I have serious doubts that this is his main goal. All he has done is bully players and bully TD's so that he can play during his glory hours. He plays in the morning, but doesn't EVER offer those hours because he knows that would be giving in. OH HEAVEN FORBID!!!

Kid refused to play one of these players that has dropped out of competitions (psteinx) during NC. He waited to see if it would mean anything and then when it didn't...oh guess what??? He decided not to play Phil. Having 2 of the best american players play each other (at american nighttime) would've been awesome, but kid ran from the competition. I sense a pattern here of playing the system and conveniently not playing when it doesn't suit his needs. He asked for the forfeit of Sysy during SMC and now he wants to win SMC by declaring the forfeit of Miguel/Rui. To me, this is a sign of a very insecure individual who hides behind his bullying nature. Very sad.

I bet if me or several other American players had real scheduling issues during NC (or other tournaments), that other players would accommodate us. BECAUSE THEY RESPECT US and WE RESPECT THEM!!! Yes, American players deserve a chance once in a while to play during our hours. But this needs to start with mutual respect and not with bullying people while trying to prove some ridiculous point. And it also needs to start with a real scheduling issue, not 'I'll play half the games at your preferred time and you can play half the games at my preferred time (which happens to be 4 am your time).'

So, does Kid really care about these players that have dropped out, or is it really just an arrogant hidden agenda? Behavior speaks louder than any twisted words and this stinks to me. We need this behavior to stop so that the community can move forward and enjoy our competitions. Enough already!





      
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Re:SMC 2011 - INFORMATION, SCHEDULES, RESULTS... Thu, 09 June 2011 23:23
PSTEINX - TEE - RAFD - other and other, past and future ..... Confused Confused Confused Confused

or

THE SMC WINNER 2011 Shocked



??????????it's just crazy ... not agree?????

for only one arrogant player, we kill the TTR pleasure of lot of player....

it's just time to stop that.... to have a real reflexion about this player , to forbid him to play another tournament...

spirit of game must win against him !

for futur TD's of all futur tournament , I ask to include a rule forbidding the participation of player ID=52400 , without any other reason that he is a virus for competition (it's a very good reason !!! )


NOW , I ask all the players who not support more to see problems bound to this player (52400) to support this request of ban.


good evening for all


















      
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Re:SMC 2011 - INFORMATION, SCHEDULES, RESULTS... Fri, 10 June 2011 00:07
Always nice to see such great sportsmanship. Sad Evil or Very Mad
      
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Re:SMC 2011 - INFORMATION, SCHEDULES, RESULTS... Fri, 10 June 2011 00:59
ommie wrote on Thu, 09 June 2011 12:37

Kid refused to play one of these players that has dropped out of competitions (psteinx) during NC. He waited to see if it would mean anything and then when it didn't...oh guess what??? He decided not to play Phil. Having 2 of the best american players play each other (at american nighttime) would've been awesome, but kid ran from the competition. I sense a pattern here of playing the system and conveniently not playing when it doesn't suit his needs.


I agree here. It has happened in past NCs too. Should not be tolerated.

Quote:

I bet if me or several other American players had real scheduling issues during NC (or other tournaments), that other players would accommodate us. BECAUSE THEY RESPECT US and WE RESPECT THEM!!! Yes, American players deserve a chance once in a while to play during our hours. But this needs to start with mutual respect and not with bullying people while trying to prove some ridiculous point. And it also needs to start with a real scheduling issue, not 'I'll play half the games at your preferred time and you can play half the games at my preferred time (which happens to be 4 am your time).


Somewhat disagree. In past 5 years of playing tournaments, I don't get the sense European players are going to bend over backwards to accommadate a US player. Some would, but others would pull the same stuff thekid does - play half one time half the other. I usually play during good European times, but I bet if I only offered my night time (thus Europeans have to play before work) most would scoff at that, yet they don't blink an eye making a US player play during their lunch break. But there are more Europeans players and the time zone problem can't be fixed so US players need to mostly just suck it up or not play in the tournaments.

This SMC forfeit thing is messed up though. Its the final round. The extra time to play matches doesn't mess anything up since it is the last round. The rule being cited seems to be more useful for the early rounds, not the final 1 or 2. I think the TDs need more power in these type of cases and be able to use their best judgement. But as written, it is what it is.
      
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Re:SMC 2011 - INFORMATION, SCHEDULES, RESULTS... Fri, 10 June 2011 01:09
Open letter to thekid:

YOUR CHANCE:

For all users that really like TTR

Rui - Miguel will be played Friday.
For all those that like to have fun playing this game
For all those who like to watch thrilling semi-final games
For all those who dislike winning by ruling instead of outplaying the opp

JOIN THE PARTY

After our game is played the winner will contact the other finalist. The PM will be sent to TDs. So either me or rui will contact the other finalist 4 days before the FINAL deadline (14/06).



thekid, please take this chance, you have nothing to lose but a lot to win!

Even if the wording of your quoted paragraphs of the rule say, you have the right to demand forfeit in this case, they were not meant to be abused this way - the intention of

rules say


There should be no delay of matches. Under special circumstances the TDs can rule that a match is played a few days later after the end of the round if both players and the next opponent agrees and a date for the next round is already set within the next round limit.


and


A match not played until deadline is ruled as forfeit for both players (i.e. next round opponent gets a bye) per default. If a player has problems to schedule his match, he has to address the TDs BEFORE the deadline - the TDs will not discuss anything afterwards.


was to avoid the whole tournament to be delayed after one or more matches of the first rounds are protracted (intentionally).

Don't let this tournament end like this, as it could mean the end of tournaments at all.

No one of us denies the fact American players have a disadvantage concerning timing during tournaments with most of the participants being from Europe if this really is the reason of your persistence in the wording of each paragraph of the rule in each and every case. Maybe future tournaments have to be divided into an American and an European Conference with a final battle of the both conference winner.

Nevertheless, this is your chance (maybe the last one) to avoid a future without tournaments at all or at least to avoid a future without tournaments a player named thekid is involved...

Please, take your chance! This would be at least a gesture of sportsmanship to the whole TTR community.

The TDs
      
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Re:SMC 2011 - INFORMATION, SCHEDULES, RESULTS... Fri, 10 June 2011 01:13
I am interested in the opinion of the other two TDs. Or was it a self-made decision by Onyx?

Sry: Read DNs post after mine.


[Updated on: Fri, 10 June 2011 01:22]

      
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Re:SMC 2011 - INFORMATION, SCHEDULES, RESULTS... Fri, 10 June 2011 01:39
AGT-DN wrote on Thu, 09 June 2011 19:09

Open letter to thekid:

YOUR CHANCE:

For all users that really like TTR

Rui - Miguel will be played Friday.
For all those that like to have fun playing this game
For all those who like to watch thrilling semi-final games
For all those who dislike winning by ruling instead of outplaying the opp

JOIN THE PARTY

After our game is played the winner will contact the other finalist. The PM will be sent to TDs. So either me or rui will contact the other finalist 4 days before the FINAL deadline (14/06).



thekid, please take this chance, you have nothing to lose but a lot to win!

Even if the wording of your quoted paragraphs of the rule say, you have the right to demand forfeit in this case, they were not meant to be abused this way - the intention of

rules say


There should be no delay of matches. Under special circumstances the TDs can rule that a match is played a few days later after the end of the round if both players and the next opponent agrees and a date for the next round is already set within the next round limit.


and


A match not played until deadline is ruled as forfeit for both players (i.e. next round opponent gets a bye) per default. If a player has problems to schedule his match, he has to address the TDs BEFORE the deadline - the TDs will not discuss anything afterwards.


was to avoid the whole tournament to be delayed after one or more matches of the first rounds are protracted (intentionally).

Don't let this tournament end like this, as it could mean the end of tournaments at all.

No one of us denies the fact American players have a disadvantage concerning timing during tournaments with most of the participants being from Europe if this really is the reason of your persistence in the wording of each paragraph of the rule in each and every case. Maybe future tournaments have to be divided into an American and an European Conference with a final battle of the both conference winner.

Nevertheless, this is your chance (maybe the last one) to avoid a future without tournaments at all or at least to avoid a future without tournaments a player named thekid is involved...

Please, take your chance! This would be at least a gesture of sportsmanship to the whole TTR community.

The TDs



Where's my answer to my question? I want to respond to my prior opponent and the TD's as well. You would think it wouldn't be a problem as some others have called you morons in other posts. But I have been threatened to not post anymore, but yet people curse me and I'm not allowed to respond? You might not like the response, but at least I haven't publicly called you morons.

[Updated on: Fri, 10 June 2011 01:40]

      
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Re:SMC 2011 - INFORMATION, SCHEDULES, RESULTS... Fri, 10 June 2011 08:48
AGT-DN écrit le Fri, 10 June 2011 01:09

Open letter to thekid:

......

to avoid a future without tournaments a player named thekid is involved...

......

The TDs


it's always the same problem .... with only one player
      
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Re:SMC 2011 - INFORMATION, SCHEDULES, RESULTS... Fri, 10 June 2011 20:28
AGT-DN wrote on Thu, 09 June 2011 19:09

Open letter to thekid:

YOUR CHANCE:

For all users that really like TTR

Rui - Miguel will be played Friday.
For all those that like to have fun playing this game
For all those who like to watch thrilling semi-final games
For all those who dislike winning by ruling instead of outplaying the opp

JOIN THE PARTY

After our game is played the winner will contact the other finalist. The PM will be sent to TDs. So either me or rui will contact the other finalist 4 days before the FINAL deadline (14/06).



thekid, please take this chance, you have nothing to lose but a lot to win!

Even if the wording of your quoted paragraphs of the rule say, you have the right to demand forfeit in this case, they were not meant to be abused this way - the intention of

rules say


There should be no delay of matches. Under special circumstances the TDs can rule that a match is played a few days later after the end of the round if both players and the next opponent agrees and a date for the next round is already set within the next round limit.


and


A match not played until deadline is ruled as forfeit for both players (i.e. next round opponent gets a bye) per default. If a player has problems to schedule his match, he has to address the TDs BEFORE the deadline - the TDs will not discuss anything afterwards.


was to avoid the whole tournament to be delayed after one or more matches of the first rounds are protracted (intentionally).

Don't let this tournament end like this, as it could mean the end of tournaments at all.

No one of us denies the fact American players have a disadvantage concerning timing during tournaments with most of the participants being from Europe if this really is the reason of your persistence in the wording of each paragraph of the rule in each and every case. Maybe future tournaments have to be divided into an American and an European Conference with a final battle of the both conference winner.

Nevertheless, this is your chance (maybe the last one) to avoid a future without tournaments at all or at least to avoid a future without tournaments a player named thekid is involved...

Please, take your chance! This would be at least a gesture of sportsmanship to the whole TTR community.

The TDs


A response to this:

As always from me you get the fair and balanced reporting like fox news. So I will report on the good and the bad of these tournaments:

The Good:

Angel6 - Drake said it very well somewhere, if you can't play don't hold up the tournament and let your opponent proceed. You're not my favorite person by any means as I'm sure the feeling is mutual, but this was a classy, good move that others should follow.

The TD's - Can you believe it??? For upholding the rules. Yes people like it or not there are rules and you can't change them in the middle of a tournament they saw that and made the correct decision. More on this in the bad section though.

Sysyphus - For taking his beat down like a man. He congratulated me and unlike the last 3 time game players I played with who said not one word after their defeats. For me writing about a loss is hard to do and he did it well. You know there will be more down below.

thekid - For offering Knockando equal time to play at his favorite time, but what do you know our favorite times were the same. For knowing the rules and illuminating to everyone that the rules aren't always the way to go. More on me too, can you believe it??? No way, can't be.

Knockando - For delivering 2 solid wins vs. me and most importantly for losing the one I needed to get to my ultimate prize. Lastly for being the only one here who figured me out Smile.

The Bad

The TD's - 2 things. For allowing 3 semifinal matches of people who play on the same contintent, maybe even the same time zone to go over the time limit. For all the people who hate me, you might take note that anytime I have had an opponent on the same continent there has never been a scheduling issue where it even came close to the deadline, the times are decided in 2 to 3 messages tops. For not being on top of the matches and presumably not knowing the rules ramifications of it, you have potentially allowed all 3 finals to be decided by forfeit. Lastly for being utterly useless in trying to resolve time complaints of people. You want the finals to be decided on the boards and not by forfeit, but you don't mind that the whole American continent has to play at times where their focus cannot be completely there. So you want them decided on the board but don't care if one side is distracted or disadvantaged. The Americans shouldn't have to be the only ones inconvenienced, playing at work etc. Well simply that's not fair. There shouldn't be any TD's for this. Both players are adults, if they can't agree to be fair about the times and neither will compromise then they both should be out. Once we actually see it happen once, I think it will stop. I'll repeat there should be no TD interefence in individual matches, both players submit their times and compromise, if 1 mutal time is found great if not play over 2 different times. There will be no yelling or copying of TD's because it is simple either both agree or you're both out. Will stop everyone from being a time game player and would get more Americans to actually play in these tournaments, which would be a good thing.

The people who love rules - Wow, I see you like your rules and your TD's to force thekid to play when he is distracted, to censure thekid (even when there aren't rules for certain situations e.g. lobby postings aren't described in the rules only forum postings are, that should be changed). Oh but now you don't like your rules when they don't favor what you want and now you turn on your TD's calling their decisions moronic and cowardly even though they are following your beloved rules.

Sysyphus - To call me a bully is a joke. You refused to play at anytime that I would like all the while yelling there's no rules to force you to play when you don't want to. You were the bully as I was forced to play at a time where I couldn't give my all to the game, but that's what you and others apparently need to beat us americans. Especially when the times I offered 5 and half to 6 hours a day are frequent times you play. You were there at those times when I played Knockando and the day following our match and just a couple of days ago. Didn't want to face me when I could give my all and be at my best, I understand you want to win but lets be fair about it, you can be a little inconvenienced for an hour one day in your life. Instead I had to bear the whole inconvenience probably cost me game 1 Smile. Lastly your vow. Your ploy exposed, your teammate calling me a racist. A simple apology and retraction would have saved a lot of vitriol here, but you couldn't do it. I'll show you I can apologize.

thekid - Really??? Are you sure???? Yes. I apologize to Sysyphus for my heckling of him after our match. I felt and still feel I was unfairly treated and bullied into a time where he had no distractions while I had many. Also his non retraction of his vow still angers me. Still after beating him and realizing he at least congratulated me, unlike the others, I should have refrained from heckling him. I am sorry and apologize for it. Going forward though know the rules of the forum where light banter and some amount of taunting is allowed.
I'll also apologize to the TD's for yelling at them behind the scenes, 2 of them aren't Americans and haven't had to play under our distractions so maybe they don't understand it, but reasoning with them and asking for fairness didn't help, next step to try to get it through their heads was yelling and that wasn't right either. But as I just said eliminate them for individual matches and there is no problem. People either agree or they're both out, nothing to argue about.


What do I want to see?

Obviously I don't want either of the other 2 finals to end in forfeit. Hopefully they won't. And anyone who knows me and apparantly Knockando is the only one, knows I am the fiercest competitor there is and would never want my match to end in forfeit either. You want it settled on the board, good me too. That being said I am not only playing at a good European hour. I could say that I want to play all the games at whatever time I want as you could refer to the rules if you don't like it. But that's not me, I am fair. I will get half the match where I am undistracted. 4 games at one person's time, the rest at the other. I don't care which goes first as that is a fair distribution, opponent can pick. The times I would like to play are between 8pm EDT and 1:30am EDT including today. Right now I believe I can play everyday. Monday and Thursday my kids have baseball games so those days might be more 8:30 or 9 as the start. They can be played over multiple days if you only have a half hour, I am flexible. I am here including next Friday night. After that we are gone for the summer and I'm likely to only be able to play a game or 2 only at my late nighttime. The winner of the SF can tell me their available times, I as well might have to pick multiple days depending. There is nothing to send to the TD you can post your availability here or send it in a pm.

I will answer 2 of my other detractors another day, you'll see some surprising stuff.


[Updated on: Fri, 10 June 2011 20:29]

      
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Re:SMC 2011 - INFORMATION, SCHEDULES, RESULTS... Fri, 10 June 2011 20:48
Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes


How convenient. Now the kid can select his ridiculous times for his opponent to play him. Of course, now he is too busy and as a result, the opponent will have to forfeit if he doesn't match that time period. Seriously absurd.

I understand the voice for getting fairness for American players. However, the kid's antics have completely negated any form of completing this goal. I know many European players now see this as...we either play at 4-5 am or we have to forfeit. Is this what we want? There is a better way to approach this negotiation for better playing times. Smashing it over people's heads and then shoving it down their throats is uncalled for. Kid, you ARE a BULLY! I'm sick and tired of all this ridiculous behavior.

The TDs are TD's for a reason. They are there to mediate problems that arise and have to power to make adjustments when needed. Exceptions can be made and bad behavior should be punished. Unfortunately this tournament has been tarnished and may end up with an asterisk for the winner.

To those in power...please rectify this situation. Enough of the crap!!




Oh, and as a side note...kid, stop commenting on how times may or may not be good for someone to play. You know nothing of their lives, the jobs they have, or the stresses that abound. Continue to play with your kids and toys all day. While that is admirable, don't use it to guilt trip people. Evil or Very Mad

      
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Re:SMC 2011 - INFORMATION, SCHEDULES, RESULTS... Fri, 10 June 2011 20:52
ommie wrote on Fri, 10 June 2011 14:48

we either play at 4-5 am or we have to forfeit.



Do you need some math lessons? I offered 5 and a half hours. Not one. And there are 3 weekend days in there. Are you the opponent? Nope then let them decide.

Oh and I saw you and your boyfriend playing the other night at those times I offered him. So he could play you but not me? Please.


quote title=ommie wrote on Fri, 10 June 2011 14:48] Oh, and as a side note...kid, stop commenting on how times may or may not be good for someone to play. You know nothing of their lives, the jobs they have, or the stresses that abound. [/quote]

Oh but it's OK for you and them to tell me when it's good for me to play? And trust me you know nothing of my life so stop pretending like you do.

[Updated on: Fri, 10 June 2011 21:08]

      
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Re:SMC 2011 - INFORMATION, SCHEDULES, RESULTS... Fri, 10 June 2011 21:19
Sigh, seriously ridiculous.

You obviously still don't get it. 4-5 am CEST = 8pm-9pm Kid time. I have a masters in tax, so i think i could probably give you some math lessons. I didn't include the whole time period, but you don't include all aspects of things that go on in your arguments. You use others words, turn them around and then try to act all innocent.

You continuously tell people that you're there with your kids all day. You don't work. You should be somewhat more flexible than what you offer. But you don't offer morning times that you DO PLAY!

If you saw sysy and I playing the other night...guess what? Those games are unrated and not competitive. He's tired and we end before it gets really really late. He also offered to play 1 hour before your asked time. You baulked.

You say sysy is regularly playing at the times you asked? WRONG AGAIN!! He played during those times while he visited me. I think Mountain time is much easier to accommodate you, but guess what??? He's not here now, nor is he playing at those times. Open your eyes kiddie.

I've dealt with people who like to argue and turn things on the other person. Like the theme of my daughter's elementary school this year... I CHOOSE TO STAND UP TO BULLIES!



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Re:SMC 2011 - INFORMATION, SCHEDULES, RESULTS... Fri, 10 June 2011 21:24
ommie wrote on Fri, 10 June 2011 15:19

4-5 am CEST = 8pm-9pm Kid time. I have a masters in tax, so i think i could probably give you some math lessons.


8pm - 1:30 am is not 4-5 am. More propoaganda from you.

And by the way, MBA Finance NYU for me - go look up where that ranks for finance. I'll give you a hint, don't start at the bottom.
      
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Re:SMC 2011 - INFORMATION, SCHEDULES, RESULTS... Fri, 10 June 2011 21:29
ommie wrote on Fri, 10 June 2011 15:19

But you don't offer morning times that you DO PLAY!



I can play regular games but I'm distracted, our house though big is quite noisy. But these are tournaments all want to win. Why don't I get the chance to be at my best at least half the time. Isn't that only fair? An opponent can't play at 7 or 8 am, I have in tournaments actually played at 6am and 2am, why can't they. No one ever answers the fairness question.

Do they really want to beat an opponent who isn't at their best. And I'm not asking for it for the whole match just half because it's fair. If they want to beat an opponent that's not at their best, they why do they still want to settle it on the boards? The 2 don't match up.
      
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Re:SMC 2011 - INFORMATION, SCHEDULES, RESULTS... Fri, 10 June 2011 21:51
Finally we get a reasonable answer. My whole point in this situation is that the competition needs to be approached with mutual respect. Everyone has times that don't work because of distractions,etc. This will lead to someone not getting what they want. But, when you start out a negotiation for times by calling your opponent a liar and a cheater...I think that means all respect is lost. Truthfully a specific time period may be the absolute worst for your opponent. So then it's ok to bully them into playing at that time or forfeiting? This situation got way out of control because of previous actions. My hope is that future tournaments can avoid this crap. I want to see the best people play...and that includes kid.


      
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Re:SMC 2011 - INFORMATION, SCHEDULES, RESULTS... Sat, 11 June 2011 00:22
SEMI FINAL

Rui 3 - Miguel 5

97-86
85-89
83-104
93-96
88-81
89-82
85-86
81-88


Close ones.
Some blocking, still not as much as expected since i think neither had big routes planned, more strategic moves, with some bluff.
Overall i think balanced, i recognize some mistakes during the games, but rui probably does also.

So next step is the final Smile

2nd time finalist in a swiss competition. Hope i can take this one.

Cheers all

[Updated on: Sat, 11 June 2011 00:24]

      
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Re:SMC 2011 - INFORMATION, SCHEDULES, RESULTS... Sat, 11 June 2011 15:15
FINAL

theKid - Miguel

Monday - Tuesday, 9 pm (his time, NY time) 2 am (my time, UK time, Lisbon time) 3am (CET)

Probably this final will miss the crowd it deserved, specially being a non-grat map like swiss. I think games like this bring more players into TTR and in this case into a lovely map like Swiss (still very underplayed in quantity and quality)

All games to be played once in a row, since i decided 2am was my ideal time to play...

[Updated on: Sun, 12 June 2011 11:35]

      
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Re:SMC 2011 - INFORMATION, SCHEDULES, RESULTS... Tue, 14 June 2011 04:06
thekid 2 - Miguel 5 (1 tie)

details later. it's late!!! Razz

76-83*
78*-67
68-78*
81*-76
72-82*
48*-85
76-76*
79*-87

*starter

About the games, very close ones, like u would expect in swiss. Never had solid combos, but i think neither did Joe, then sometimes longest was something like 13 track long.
Strategic blocking to avoid longest or just slow down the routes, but not much block that avoided ticks.

Think the crucial part was that i played a bit better in east, making zurich country my ideal route.

Game 7 made a silly mistake that cost me a tie.

Game 8 Kid gets a tunnel rejected on final move, that would have been the 4-3.

But i'm sure Kid has a better analysis, since it was late and i didnt write anything down.

Cheers All

P.s BIG THANKS TO ALL USERS THAT WERE AROUND FROM 3-4 AM TO WATCH AND SUPPORT

[Updated on: Tue, 14 June 2011 18:19]

      
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Re:SMC 2011 - INFORMATION, SCHEDULES, RESULTS... Tue, 14 June 2011 17:23
Grats Miguel! Cool

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Re:SMC 2011 - INFORMATION, SCHEDULES, RESULTS... Tue, 14 June 2011 18:08
So our SMC champion was determined by a good real match after all Thumbs Up

Grats and thanks to all, who made it happen eventually!

And of course a big GRATS to Miguel - Yeti does exist Wink
      
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Re:SMC 2011 - INFORMATION, SCHEDULES, RESULTS... Tue, 14 June 2011 20:15
Grats Miguel !

Many greets
xbomanx Very Happy
      
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Re:SMC 2011 - INFORMATION, SCHEDULES, RESULTS... Tue, 14 June 2011 22:30
GRATS MIGUEL !

morality is saved ! thx for that mig !!! Cool
      
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Re:SMC 2011 - INFORMATION, SCHEDULES, RESULTS... Tue, 14 June 2011 22:35
Parabens Miguel !

True, hands were not the best ones there for both of them...

Joe didn't have the east tix he had versus me, maybe his favourite.

Was happy with the games I watched, was really unusual.

Thx everybody for having this tourney over in a normal way.

      
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Re:SMC 2011 - INFORMATION, SCHEDULES, RESULTS... Tue, 14 June 2011 23:04
GGGGGGGGGGGGRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAATTTTTTTTTTTTSSSSSSSSSSS

Miguel
Miguel
Miguel

Razz

Nice win
Cool

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Re:SMC 2011 - INFORMATION, SCHEDULES, RESULTS... Tue, 14 June 2011 23:14
Yes Congrats Miguel,

I don't write things down either usually go off of memory.

Game 1 - Good block on longest by you lets u get it 13-11.

2 - 4 I just remember them being really close.

Game 5 first time either of us took 3 tix. I had La Chateau - Luzern, La Ch - Zurich and Bern to whatever that blue one is past Luzern. Thought I made them all right away and had longest, thought it was an easy win but forgot to get to Zurich.

Game 6 - You stuffed me and crushed me.

7 - Thought I had it but the 2 tix u had surprised me.

8 - Had the blocks there but u had the 2 tix and then u kept taking the orange at the end, I just needed one of them.

Well played.
      
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Re:SMC 2011 - INFORMATION, SCHEDULES, RESULTS... Sun, 19 June 2011 22:07
GRATS to all winners of SMC, SPWC + EMC and their runner-ups! We are glad to see the finals were able to be decided on the gameboard. We appreciate those participants working something out through the FORUM to resolve what was a tricky situation.

The TDs

PS: A special GRATS to Overall Point Winner 2011 Truckerteller!
      
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