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Henry Pelham
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Re:An annoying american expression Wed, 31 August 2011 04:37
I say "good game" much less often because of this thread.

What I was trying to say to non-Americans (and I think Geoff is saying the same thing) is that this expression is in no way a taunt. If it strikes some as poor manners, there's nothing we can do about that. All I can say is that it is considered good manners over here.

Also you can expect new Americans players to keep using it. This is not arrogance -- it's just a fact -- Americans say it. It is a pervasive habit with us. Few players read the forum. A thread might make me more self-conscious, but it's not going to stop all the new Americans from bringing the habit online.

My advice to non-Americans is to let it go -- try not to be annoyed.
      
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Re:An annoying american expression Wed, 31 August 2011 05:54
Being annoyed is in itself an unwillingness to accept the differences in others.

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Re:An annoying american expression Wed, 31 August 2011 20:11
Phread wrote on Tue, 30 August 2011 16:28



Please don't be offended but your comment shows some of the in built cultural arrogance that citizens of the USA carry into the wider world. You appear to be saying "this is what we do - get over it."




I would take 'gg' over this comment any day.
      
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Re:An annoying american expression Wed, 31 August 2011 21:51
Come on guys relax a bit. This is such a pittance to some real issues in life. This is a game. Be a good sport, encourage each other and be kind.

Enough said already.

Good Grief - GG

      
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Re:An annoying american expression Wed, 31 August 2011 22:43
For the record, as a French native who moved to the US some 20+ years ago:

It is a cultural issue. Non US natives can and will easily read too much into this (because being non-native, you take the expression literally) whereas for Americans, the expression doesn't necessarily hold the same weight (think of it as "thanks for playing this game with me" - regardless of that particular's game outcome).

This is no different than what happened to me when I first moved to the US, and people would tell me "Hi, How are you?" first thing in the morning. This would leave me searching for an answer until I realized that they never expected any answer (at least any meaningful answer). It's basically just a way to say Hi, usually not meant to be taken as a literal question.

Same thing here. Once you realize this, gg (or it's fully spelled out equivalent "good game") shouldn't bother anyone.

So, please let's wrap this discussion up. All points have been discussed, and further discourses on the subject won't add much.

Thanks to all of you for your help (and mutual understanding Very Happy).

eric
      
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Re:An annoying american expression Wed, 31 August 2011 22:45
Thank you Eric for you contribution.

My genuine apology to anyone I may have offended and thanks to all who contributed to this discussion.

[Updated on: Thu, 01 September 2011 00:30]

      
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Re:An annoying american expression Wed, 31 August 2011 23:23
Well said Eric, now lets get on with the game, and have some fun!!!! Laughing Razz Smile Very Happy
      
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Re:An annoying american expression Thu, 01 September 2011 15:40
Being Canadian I have learned what GG meant though at first I didn't have a clue. Being older I am not used to short forms and do little texting or other social media.

I also do not type very fast and my opponents are often gone before I can type out my message of congratulations. If I am in a game with someone that doesn't chat I do fall back to GG as a polite expression but if I have been chatting I usually have enough time to write more.

I have used this expression (good game) in golf, pool, bowling, and just about every other competitive sport or game.

Maybe it is a North American expression and not just limited to the Americans.
      
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Re:An annoying american expression Mon, 12 September 2011 14:23
Hamblylake wrote on Thu, 01 September 2011 15:40

Being older I am not used to short forms and do little texting or other social media.

I also do not type very fast and my opponents are often gone before I can type out my message of congratulations.

I concur, and besides, if you have a full sized keyboard, why don't you use it? Very Happy


Now it seems all has been said about gg at the ending. Let's consider gl or good luck as I would type in full words it at the beginning. Is this also just a hollow frase?

I have one negative example: Somebody type "f***** by the dice after the game". Why?
He wished me good luck before the game, and now I got it he is peeved?
(Beside the point but after studying the statistics I could find no fleshly act done to him by the aforementioned dice. Razz )

I have to mention that mostly, good (or incredibly good) throws are met with sympathetic comments and smilies. I Myself usually type Nice shooting Tex! if somebody kills me very efficiently. (I am hoping for karma and better dicethrows of course.)

So if you meet me on the battlefield be prepared to be taunted, jibed and complimented in full words. And if I say good luck at the beginning of the game or good game at the end I mean that.

[Updated on: Mon, 12 September 2011 19:20] by Moderator

      
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Re:An annoying american expression Mon, 12 September 2011 16:03
In an effort to remain a family friendly forum, please refrain from any swearing (even if quoting what someone else wrote). Some of my young students follow the various threads and I'm always proud to tell parents who ask that this is a very safe and friendly environment. Smile

Thanks for your understanding! Cool
      
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Re:An annoying american expression Mon, 12 September 2011 17:39
Fellow forumers - Jesse has a very important point here. This forum is quite exceptional - it maintains very high quality of posts, no trolling, flaming and almost no swearing Smile

Whenever you feel the need to swear, just asterisk it. M**** in French, for example. I also use Battlestar Galactica's frak a lot when annoyed by dice Smile

      
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Re:An annoying american expression Mon, 12 September 2011 20:10
Okidoki, newbee mistake, won't happen again. My sincere apologies. Embarassed
      
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Re:An annoying american expression Mon, 12 September 2011 20:35
Jeronimon wrote on Mon, 12 September 2011 22:10

Okidoki, newbee mistake, won't happen again. My sincere apologies. Embarassed


No worries and thanks for your understanding! It's great to have new members of the forum, so I hope you continue to contribute your ideas and point of view. Smile
      
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Re:An annoying american expression Mon, 19 September 2011 17:36
Another way to look at "GG" is that it's like a virtual handshake at the end of any match. We can't expect to have a conversation during and/or after every game as there is occasionally a language barrier. When there isn't any banter I just assume that my opponent does not speak english, so i'm perfectly happy with a virtual handshake "GG".
      
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