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Teddy1
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Re:Fun Tournament 2011 Sun, 27 November 2011 21:46
GROUP E

Hecki vs Teddy1 4-1

snake 112 - 61
5 tix 140 - 126
8+ 111 - 73
open 108 - 123
no5/6 88-65

thx for the games Hecki

[Updated on: Sun, 04 December 2011 00:10]

      
RFAD - Saint-Emilion
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Re:Fun Tournament 2011 Sun, 27 November 2011 21:57
will in my group ? magic cards in approche ? i hope Very Happy
      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2011 Sun, 27 November 2011 23:42
This tournament has to be fun.

The seeding put in the same group 2 players living together.

Not sure it will be really fun for them and for their opponents.

So, first (and last I hope) ruling from the "no-TD but organizer" : ommie will move from group B to group A, and I will take her place (the winner and the finalist of last year : no objection of the opponents I think)

      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2011 Sun, 27 November 2011 23:46
The german rules need to be modified here

I don't speak German.

So...if someone can, it will be helpful for other german players.

[Updated on: Sun, 27 November 2011 23:48]

      
Hecki
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Re:Fun Tournament 2011 Mon, 28 November 2011 00:59
TIC U32 - TIC Hecki 2:3

snake: 89 - 96
5tix: 141 - 101
8+nono: 80 - 121
open: 109 - 107
no5/6: 68 - 91
      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2011 Mon, 28 November 2011 22:07
EUT Yami - RV54 - Cassis

samedi 3 decembre 2011 a 15h


Onyx puffin - RV54 - Cassis

mercredi 30 novembre a 20h30


snake 95120
5 tix 8775
8+ 12298
open 118101
no 5 or 6 10874

Onyx puffin 3 RV54 1

Womble - RV54 - Cassis

mardi 6 decembre a 20h30


snake 124 - 72
5 tix 118 - 102
8+ 147 - 106
open 123 - 112
no 5 or 6 163 - 116

Womble 5 Very Happy Very Happy -- 0 RV54 - Cassis Sad Sad

[Updated on: Tue, 06 December 2011 21:25]

      
toutoune - Morgon
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Re:Fun Tournament 2011 Tue, 29 November 2011 17:57
thursday Dec 1, 9:30PM CET: toutoune vs Grosser Hase
      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2011 Tue, 29 November 2011 23:52
GROUP H

RFAD gg hogika 2:3


snake 126 : 99

5+ 137 : 122

8+ no mo 93 : 111

draw open 92 : 109

no 5+6 64 : 88

thx for the nice games RFAD

      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2011 Wed, 30 November 2011 20:18
womble - Yami
5 : 0

womble - onyx
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toutoune - Morgon
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Re:Fun Tournament 2011 Wed, 30 November 2011 23:19
toutoune vs Karin 3:2

snake: 93-118
5 tix: 159-110 (I took even 6 from begining: LA-NY, KC-Hou, NY-Atl, Dal-NY, Bo-Mia and Mon-NO)
8+: 61-100 (I needed to break the rule to win)
open: 121-104 (Win-LR + Van-Mon)
5er/6er: 126-93

I had LA-NY, Sea-NY and rejected Mon-NO. After my first move (4green), Karin played Cal-Hel. I had then to break the rule to do my tix. From the begining I knew that I would use the 6 yellows. Which was unfair in that case because it gave me points, time to fill plenty of possible tickets for security (Cal, Van, Port...) and find at least one in my penalty resolution (LA-Chi). This way to play is unfair, but I used the rules. I am sure that a lot of discussion was done on these rules, but they are imho unfair. I really think playing a 6er (to avoid a block but also to gain points, finish quicker, gain the longest bonus...) is in 95% case the right strategy whatever your tickets. (we may do some stats on this round robin tournament to see what is the winning percentage when you break the rules) Then the game is spoiled. What about a straight loss if any 5er/6er is played?).

Additional question: what are the rules if you take two 5er/6er?

Again, sorry Karin

[Updated on: Wed, 30 November 2011 23:22]

      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2011 Wed, 30 November 2011 23:31


[Updated on: Thu, 01 December 2011 00:24]

      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2011 Thu, 01 December 2011 00:30
Why does nobody ever listen to me???? Wink

dea1 schrieb am Sat, 19 November 2011 13:23

Suggestion:
Start the new rules with a clear statement about the desired etiquette for the event.

1) Is it perfectly OK to violate a rule intentionally if you are willing to take the penalty?

2) Or is it considered an ethical NoGo to violate the rules on purpose?

My impression is, that most participants would prefer #2.
If that's the case, say so clearly, or you'll have the same discussions again, whatever the new penalties are.

...



      
Hecki
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Re:Fun Tournament 2011 Thu, 01 December 2011 00:35
Did listening to you ever made sense? Laughing
      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2011 Thu, 01 December 2011 00:41
Listening + understanding might have ...
      
Sysyphus - Pommard
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Re:Fun Tournament 2011 Thu, 01 December 2011 01:34
Well, toutoune played the tourney last year and mentioned nothing in the rules thread for a whole year. Wake up !
Is being unfair not fun ?
CREATE THE FAIR TOURNEY !

Violating the rules is definitely ok, and i personally encourage it Very Happy !

Most participants ? onyx, ishamael, knock, pibat ? = 4 persons... 21 players that played in 2010 signed up again this year...I assume then that most of those players like the original rules (Jasmin, Teddy, wasdenn defended them)... so we decided to stick to the spirit of the rules of last year and nevertheless edit the penalty applying to some games...


If you take 2 6er, penalty applies, take 2 tix the very next turn each time.
If it was not ok to violate the rules, then why not offering a straight loss for every game to make it simpler ?
(please file a complaint for 2012)

[Updated on: Thu, 01 December 2011 05:29]

      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2011 Thu, 01 December 2011 02:08
Hecki - Lucullupus 2:3
U32 - Lucullupus 1:4

Cool Cool Cool

please keep having fun!
      
onyx puffin
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Re:Fun Tournament 2011 Thu, 01 December 2011 04:30
Toutoune, When you say you broke a rule and described it below, was that in game 3, 8+ or in no 5er/6er? Because the penalty in no 5er/6er is 2 tickets each time it is broken. That rule was changed the first year due to exactly what was described there about unfair advantage in cheating to take a 15 point 6er and have to keep a 4-9 point ticket. (the penalty of just one ticket was no penalty.) ommie and I did a set of games study that first year on best strategies, and the absolute need to change that penalty. Which is how it became 2 tix.
FUN tournament discussion centers on for some it is fun to live on edge with rule breaking and what you can get away with.
toutoune - Morgon wrote on Wed, 30 November 2011 17:19


8+: 61-100 (I needed to break the rule to win)
open: 121-104 (Win-LR + Van-Mon)
5er/6er: 126-93

I had LA-NY, Sea-NY and rejected Mon-NO. After my first move (4green), Karin played Cal-Hel. I had then to break the rule to do my tix. From the begining I knew that I would use the 6 yellows. Which was unfair in that case because it gave me points, time to fill plenty of possible tickets for security (Cal, Van, Port...) and find at least one in my penalty resolution (LA-Chi). This way to play is unfair, but I used the rules. I am sure that a lot of discussion was done on these rules, but they are imho unfair. I really think playing a 6er (to avoid a block but also to gain points, finish quicker, gain the longest bonus...) is in 95% case the right strategy whatever your tickets. (we may do some stats on this round robin tournament to see what is the winning percentage when you break the rules) Then the game is spoiled. What about a straight loss if any 5er/6er is played?).

Additional question: what are the rules if you take two 5er/6er?

Again, sorry Karin

[Updated on: Thu, 01 December 2011 04:32]

      
toutoune - Morgon
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Re:Fun Tournament 2011 Thu, 01 December 2011 17:50
It was in game 5, no5er/6er

I use the rules we can find in tickipedia, and I now realize I didn't paly correctly: in my silly mind, I transformed "THE VERY NEXT TURN" into "THE VERY LAST TURN". So basically, I played the 6, then continued to play (going to most of possible cities to find tickets: 1 to Van, 1 to Port, 3 to Calg), then when I (or Karin?) pushed the last turn, I draw (I found +LA-Chi that was already on my route before I played the 6er, and -Chi-NO, so my way of playing didn't change the results, it would have been even better for me in that case to follow the rules, doing more points, or reaching NO).
So technically, I didn't follow the rules. So the win goes to Karin (or if she prefer, no problem to play it again).

And basically, to be honnest, I don't remember issues with the penalties last year, except when you forgot to state "PENALTY" especially in the 8+ version (btw, Karin didn't shout PENALTY in our game Wink and didn't mention I was not following the "breaking rules" rule correctly). Last year, I probably only played "fair" no5er6er without any opponent or me breaking the rule. So: camembert, Juju Laughing

[Updated on: Thu, 01 December 2011 17:57]

      
onyx puffin
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Re:Fun Tournament 2011 Thu, 01 December 2011 20:46
GROUP D onyx puffin - 4 vs EUT Yami - 1

snake 121 : 94
5+ 108 : 165

8+ no mo 99 : 75

draw open 114 : 91

no 5+6 95 : 86


thx for the nice games Yami, and wow was I impressed with 165 points. I cannot remember last time someone put that many points up against me in 2 player.

Ok, went back through year of 2 player, and Sysyphus had previous high with 142 in October, and Drakestorm had 173 in June, but we were playing mega.

[Updated on: Fri, 02 December 2011 20:32]

      
toutoune - Morgon
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Re:Fun Tournament 2011 Thu, 01 December 2011 22:37
toutoune vs EUT Grosser Hase : 4-1

snake: 117-105 (good center road with Van-SFe + Den-ElP, easy when the game start in the south, it is quite fast to go north without risk of block and take the 6er in North at the end)

5+: 124-141 (2 tickets in west at begining, but then 3 tickets, rather east, so I took my 5 tickets in 3 draws, and at the end of the game, I draw again 3 turn to find the big Sea-NY I had on my road)

8+ no more: 124-96

Draw open: 127-103

no5er/6er: a good combo for this version: Den-Pit + NY-Dal + Den-ElP. I started quickly with 4 blue/4pink, and I killed Grosser Hase with 4 green + 4 Cal-Hel. (-13 for Van-SFe)

No one penalty in this fair game. Thx!


(and missing result in my group, yesterday, EUT Grosser Hase won 4-1 vs Karin1961) We wait for Tyrana for the next games (and TD decision for the issue in my game vs Karin)

[Updated on: Thu, 01 December 2011 22:43]

      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2011 Fri, 02 December 2011 17:17
Teddy1 vs Lucullupus 2-3

snake 114 - 85
5tix 109 - 114
8+ 116-109
open draw 97-150
no5/6 98-102

[Updated on: Mon, 12 December 2011 12:51]

      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2011 Fri, 02 December 2011 21:30
AGT-Techniker vs Zaco2


Tec - Zaco

Snake 96 - 100
5 Tix 83 - 126
8+ 78 - 111
draw open 122 - 101
No 5/6 98 - 72

      
Sysyphus - Pommard
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Re:Fun Tournament 2011 Sat, 03 December 2011 19:07
JenAck vs Sysy = 0.5 - 4.5

1) Snake = 103 - 105  Phoe x 2 vs Oak - kc. Start for me !
2) 5tix = 130 - 149   42 & east vs Cal Phoe Port phoe den paso ssm oak and win hou. Longest helped me !

3) 8+ nono = 57 - 112 
                      Dul Paso chi no vs Cal Phoe SSm oak (again..!)
4) open = 122-122     I picked my last card blind by mistake... Lucky she didn't see it !
5) No5/no6 = 85-131   La chi - Sf Atl, vs Mon No/Tor Mia/Dallas Ny
I bothered her with 4 pink and blue, got longest, made my tix, took 6 red to trigger last round faster, and found 2 tix. Perfect game!

Thx Jasmin for the game... Got definitely luckier there.


      
CIA Truckerteller
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Re:Fun Tournament 2011 Sat, 03 December 2011 19:33
Unranked is fun ?
      
Teddy1
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Re:Fun Tournament 2011 Sat, 03 December 2011 22:24
GROUP E

Teddy1 vs U32 2,5-2,5

snake 121-99
5tix 121-151
8+ 87-60
open 106-121
n05/6 110-110

First, thx for the nice games nette
Second , grats Hecki and Lucullupus to win this group
      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2011 Tue, 06 December 2011 16:20
Sysyphus vs Knockando_

Today 6th, 17h30 CEST
      
Sysyphus - Pommard
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Re:Fun Tournament 2011 Tue, 06 December 2011 19:15
Sysy - Knock : 3 - 2

Snake = 119 - 94. He had the start but tix way better for me. (Win hous - Dul Paso vs Chi Fé Ssm Oak)

5tix = 192 - 60. La Mia Mon Atl La chi dul hou DUl paso for me.
Awesome colours in the south, he's slow. I took tix for fun last round and found the 3 i had on my track (Mon No Chi No Tor Mia). Laughing

8+nono= 94-103. Chi No Den Paso vs Van fé win hou dul paso (+Port Phoe). I have good colours, longest but my tix are too small. He drew thinking of La CHi or La Mia for mia but i know it's not enough... Grats!

Draw open : 123 - 112. La Ny Bos mia vs West. I think he has la mia after 3 to phoe and to no, so i kill Mia with 6 red and 5 blue after my black. But he also thinks i have la mia so he bothers me with small tracks. I don't give and he didn't lay 4 pinks to kill me... Happy with my game!


No 5-no 6 : 129-91 Sf Atl Tor mi(discarded van fé) vs la chi ssm oak dul paso.

I felt like i was in deep shit. Took pink and blue, connected to LA via 5 orange. Missed the penalty warning from knock asw he thought too long (he even took time to fold bed sheets with his wife), so i took it the 2nd turn. Then Festival of penalties. I have good stuff (Port Nash Sea la). I end faster, but picked 1 ticket instead of 2 at the end (well, wouldn't have changed anything since I won easily).
For having missed 2 penalties, we therefore decided I had game lost.

Thx Knock!
      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2011 Tue, 06 December 2011 21:27
womble-RV54
5:0

I was really lucky - always getting good tix for the variant we played - and very lucky fiending.


Merci beaucoup pour les jeux - et desolé.
      
MaximouR - Ginglet
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Re:Fun Tournament 2011 Tue, 06 December 2011 23:21
Elric - MaximouR
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Snake 100 : 109

5 Tix min 94 : -17 ouch ! it was hard

8+ 97 : 114

Open 127 : 103

No 5/6 44 : 63


Fun 'n strange games.

Happy to start in Fun competition.

TY Elric


C'est grâce à la prune.
Et grâce aux conseils de Knock : une bouteille mais pas de verre...

[Updated on: Tue, 06 December 2011 23:24]

      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2011 Tue, 06 December 2011 23:56
first game in Groupe G

Enix39 vs Cat_

2,5 :2,5

snake: 96: 126
5 tix: 137 : 136
8 nono: 107:113
open draw: 47:47 Very Happy nice game! The result speaks for itself, both are bad blocker Laughing
no 5, 6: 110:72

Thanks for the games enix, it was a plasure. good luck in your next matches.

Very Happy

[Updated on: Tue, 06 December 2011 23:56]

      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2011 Thu, 08 December 2011 21:31
Second game in group G

Lirex vs Enix39 2 - 3

Snake:Lirex 108- Enix 82
5 tixs: Lirex 84 Enix 121
8+ : Lirex 90 Enix 109
draw open: Lirex 74 Enix 114
no5no6: Lirex 109- Enix 98

Thnaks for games Lirex

Peace

[Updated on: Thu, 08 December 2011 21:32]

      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2011 Fri, 09 December 2011 21:36
Group C:

Tyrana 5 vs Karin 0

Thanks for games Karin. Smile
      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2011 Sun, 11 December 2011 21:26
Knockando vs JenAck: 1-4

thx for the games Sylvain and gl in the next
      
SOJA Ishamael
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Re:Fun Tournament 2011 Mon, 12 December 2011 23:41
Enix39 - Ishamael 2:3

Thanks for the interesting and fun games!

next games:
Mon 19 20:30 Cat_ - Ishamael
Sun 18 20:00 lirex - Ishamael

[Updated on: Sun, 18 December 2011 22:05]

      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2011 Tue, 13 December 2011 08:18
Val vs Knock 3-2

snake 124 - 113
5 tix 128 - 106
8+ 71 - 99
open 52 - 67
no5/6 94-86
      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2011 Tue, 13 December 2011 22:03
Group F

Audrey - Muscat vs häxxli

3 : 2

snake 110 - 128
5 142 - 134
8+ 090 - 106
open 111 - 062
no5/6 097 - 087

thanks Audrey for the nice games

[Updated on: Tue, 13 December 2011 22:05]

      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2011 Wed, 14 December 2011 01:35
Group A

ommie vs Elric - Sancerre 4-1

Snake 111-100
5 Tix 103-123
8+nono 117-74
open 124-120
no5/6 105-96

Three starts, some good tix, and colors when I needed them. Thx for fun games Mr Elric Wink


[Updated on: Wed, 14 December 2011 01:35]

      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2011 Wed, 14 December 2011 16:51
GROUP F

Zaco 2 vs häxxli 0:5 (War wohl mein Glückstag! Embarassed)


snake 94 : 119

5+ 91 : 157

8+ no mo 109 : 121

draw open 118 : 122

no 5+6 75 : 88



Danke für die netten Spiele, Zaco

[Updated on: Wed, 14 December 2011 16:52]

      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2011 Wed, 14 December 2011 23:43
Group A

MaximouR vs ommie 3.5-1.5

Snake 108-108
5 Tix 117-119 arg ! 2 points between us
8+nono 88-87 re-arg 1 point
open 104-90 Concentration problem for me... 1 penality (but lucky penality) for a hidden card.
no5/6 89-86 and 3 points. Ommie 1 forced penality (2 cards)

Thank you all.
Happy to play Fun and win ommie, 2010 winner.




      
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Re:Fun Tournament 2011 Thu, 15 December 2011 22:09
Group F

Technikerin vs häxxli

2 : 3
snake    102 - 128
5tix     053 - 060
8+       087 - 115 
open     118 - 103
no5/6    089 - 057

thanks Beate for the nice games 
      
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