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What expansion/addition get after the core game? Wed, 28 December 2011 16:05
Hello,

Once with the basic/core game in my hands, what's the next expansion/addition to get in your opinion guys?

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Re:What expansion/addition get after the core game? Wed, 28 December 2011 16:50
Me and my friend just bought this game, and we're already planning to get the first expansion pack. same question: Which one first?
      
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Re:What expansion/addition get after the core game? Wed, 28 December 2011 18:11
Welcome to the forum guys.

Eastern Front was my first expansion and I don't regret my choice. I'd choose it again.

Next is Terrain Pack and lots of boards.

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Re:What expansion/addition get after the core game? Wed, 28 December 2011 18:54
thanks for the advice!

we were also thinking about eastern front pack (We live in Finland, so eastern front is kind of our thing). But it wont include maps, will it?
      
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Re:What expansion/addition get after the core game? Wed, 28 December 2011 20:01
Yes, the boards are available separately. This is the next point of the list...
      
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Re:What expansion/addition get after the core game? Wed, 28 December 2011 20:01
It will include new scenarios, but not a new board if that's what you meant. If memory serves right it's 8 scenarios in eastern.

Terrain pack contains a lot of terrain ( Rolling Eyes ) hexes and lets you play a whole lot of official and user designed scenarios found in this website

If you do choose eatern, may I suggest the desert / winter board, better looks for sure Smile

Cheers and welcome to the game
      
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Re:What expansion/addition get after the core game? Wed, 28 December 2011 20:22
Thanks for the welcome and for the advice.

I'm a bit dissapointed tho with the "terrain hex" pieces included in the core game.

Weird but true, with the current amount of each type of hexes included in my game, I'm unable to set up the firt scenario "Pegasus Bridge". I need more towns/villages hexes and more bendless river/waterways. Is this usual to happen?
      
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Re:What expansion/addition get after the core game? Wed, 28 December 2011 20:24
I think you need to have another look at the other sides of the terrain hexes.

There are enough tiles to complete every single scenario in the base game.
      
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Re:What expansion/addition get after the core game? Wed, 28 December 2011 20:43
Thanks for the answer. I've done a triple check.

I've counted them three times, checking both sides of each one.

- As a simple heads up:

"Pegasus Bridge" needs x14 tiles of straight "River & Waterways" terrain hexes. My box only includes 8, so missing 6.

I know I could use the remaining bend "river/waterside" hexes included to set up the scenario, but then is not very accurate saying "you need 14 of those" if you really don't have them.

Regards and eager to find opponents to play!!!!



      
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Re:What expansion/addition get after the core game? Wed, 28 December 2011 20:48
A river that starts on one side of the tile and ends on the opposite side of the tile is a straight river, regardless of whether it is physically straight or bends a bit on the way.
      
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Re:What expansion/addition get after the core game? Wed, 28 December 2011 20:53
interesting, maybe you've got a monday version of the game? Very Happy

Because we got everything we need

count all of your tiles, because you should have 44 of them

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Re:What expansion/addition get after the core game? Wed, 28 December 2011 21:00
Almilcar wrote on Wed, 28 December 2011 20:43

Thanks for the answer. I've done a triple check.

I've counted them three times, checking both sides of each one.

- As a simple heads up:

"Pegasus Bridge" needs x14 tiles of straight "River & Waterways" terrain hexes. My box only includes 8, so missing 6.

I know I could use the remaining bend "river/waterside" hexes included to set up the scenario, but then is not very accurate saying "you need 14 of those" if you really don't have them.

Regards and eager to find opponents to play!!!!



Hahahaha! I was confused this way too when I first opened my box! Don't worry! Treat the bended river hexes as straight river; every church, buildings treat as town (although sometimes churches have their own rules depending on scenario).

Everything is all right you will see.

Regarding to Pegasus Brigde scenario - always propose to play as Allies to beginner. I played it twice with my friends as Axis and they hate this game till now! Laughing
      
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Re:What expansion/addition get after the core game? Wed, 28 December 2011 21:11
djedi gamer wrote on Wed, 28 December 2011 22:00



Hahahaha! I was confused this way too when I first opened my box! Don't worry! Treat the bended river hexes as straight river; every church, buildings treat as town (although sometimes churches have their own rules depending on scenario).

Everything is all right you will see.

Regarding to Pegasus Brigde scenario - always propose to play as Allies to beginner. I played it twice with my friends as Axis and they hate this game till now! Laughing


Lol r u kidding, I played as the axis on pegasus bridge and won! me and my friend think that pegasus bridge is the best scenario so far, even though he lost!
      
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Re:What expansion/addition get after the core game? Wed, 28 December 2011 22:41
Try to look at this topis, hopefully it will help you:
http://www.daysofwonder.com/en/msg/?th=22065&start=0

And for check of terrain hexes, use this:
http://cdn1.daysofwonder.com/memoir44/en/img/mm_boxcontent_b asegame_en.pdf
      
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Re:What expansion/addition get after the core game? Wed, 28 December 2011 22:54
Almilcar wrote on Wed, 28 December 2011 23:43

Thanks for the answer. I've done a triple check.

I've counted them three times, checking both sides of each one.

- As a simple heads up:

"Pegasus Bridge" needs x14 tiles of straight "River & Waterways" terrain hexes. My box only includes 8, so missing 6.

I know I could use the remaining bend "river/waterside" hexes included to set up the scenario, but then is not very accurate saying "you need 14 of those" if you really don't have them.

Regards and eager to find opponents to play!!!!


I noticed that you posted this problem in two different threads...I hope you've figured things out. Smile While it's possible that your set is missing a few tiles, it's not possible that you have all the tiles but are missing the right images (I've never heard of that happening, though you aren't the first to be confused by the pictures).

In case your still having trouble setting up scenarios, let me see if I can help. The images for some tiles won't look exactly like the setup book. Towns, bridges, bunkers and straight rivers all have slight 'artistic' differences in the images, but all of the rules stay the same for those I the base game.

To help you set up for each battle, it's best to follow the order that the little box to the side suggests. So if the box says to set up rivers first...start with all the river pieces you need...then move down to town hexes, if that's next on the list...etc.

I hope that helps and I hope you get it all figured out. It can be a bit like a puzzle at first! Cool
      
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Re:What expansion/addition get after the core game? Thu, 29 December 2011 00:04
rasmussen81 wrote on Wed, 28 December 2011 22:54



To help you set up for each battle, it's best to follow the order that the little box to the side suggests. So if the box says to set up rivers first...start with all the river pieces you need...then move down to town hexes, if that's next on the list...etc.



I didn't know that the sequence of tiles images can help with set up the scenario. Wow! It is something new for me!
I wonder scenario editor has the same feature.
I'll check it out, but many thanks for information.
      
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Re:What expansion/addition get after the core game? Thu, 29 December 2011 01:31
Hi, Almilcar --

It was good meeting you on Vassal Monday.

The short answer is that most people favor either Eastern or Pacific as the first expansion. You'll get a fuller and a lot of good insights from the link that deemao gave.

Sam E.
      
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Re:What expansion/addition get after the core game? Thu, 29 December 2011 07:36
Hello Sam1812,

one of the players (Flamish_Havy I think it was) tried to give me a first lesson on the Vassal Toolbar/Module Game mechanics, however my Inet connection was wicked at that moment and I lost the connectivity.

Hopefully he won't think I'm a bad-mannered teenager (which certainly I'm not, mainly for the age).

I just got the base game box and I'm trying to arrange some games to play 1-on-1 on Vassal too.

If you organize another Operation Overlord Multiplayer scenario, I'd like to assist as an observer, to get the grisp of it.

Regards, and thanks.
      
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Re:What expansion/addition get after the core game? Thu, 29 December 2011 08:07
I think I bought the terrain pack, winter/desert boards and eastern front as my "second" M44 package.

Winter scenarios on green boards just don't feel right.

My next purchases were the Mediterranean Theater and Air Pack. Then Campaign Book 1 and Pacific, with a second (2nd hand) base game, some extra card decks, then the Battle Maps, Winter Wars & Breakthrough Kit and finally Campaign Book #2.

The only things I don't have are the campaign bag and overlord expansion (not required with 2 base games).

I'd recommend the terrain pack, winter/desert boards and whatever theatre of war interest you.

If you can get an Air Pack you should as it is out of print, as are some of the battle maps.

      
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Re:What expansion/addition get after the core game? Thu, 29 December 2011 10:18
Thanks to all regarding the advices for what next.

I'll check my budget, but I think I've made my mind up.

- Winter/Desert board
- Terrain Pack
- Eastern Front

What do you guys think about Winter Wars?

Regards
      
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Re:What expansion/addition get after the core game? Thu, 29 December 2011 17:21
I have decided to buy the following at the same time soon:
-desert/winter board
-eastern front


However...the Terrain pack keeps disturbing me...

Eastern front or terrain pack, Pros and cons please?
      
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Re:What expansion/addition get after the core game? Thu, 29 December 2011 17:34
Törni wrote on Thu, 29 December 2011 11:21

I have decided to buy the following at the same time soon:
-desert/winter board
-eastern front


However...the Terrain pack keeps disturbing me...

Eastern front or terrain pack, Pros and cons please?


Both, if the budget allows...

The question about the "correct" order to buy the expansions in comes up on this board a lot. The only real answer is to follow your interests.

Some people prefer to buy in the order in which the expansions were released, and I think people have posted that information in previous threads on this topic.

To me, the order isn't that important; such is the addictive quality of M44 that you're going to end up with all the expansions, eventually. Smile
      
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Re:What expansion/addition get after the core game? Thu, 29 December 2011 19:02
well, I've got 50¤ to use on these and des/wint boards+ Terrain pack OR eastern front= 43¤:D
      
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Re:What expansion/addition get after the core game? Mon, 02 January 2012 15:36
Thanks to all for the advice.

I finally got:

- Terrain Pack
- Winter Wars
- Eastern Front
- Winter / Desert Board

So, I'm broke for sometime now! Surprised

Regards
      
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Re:What expansion/addition get after the core game? Mon, 02 January 2012 17:01
Almilcar wrote on Mon, 02 January 2012 16:36

Thanks to all for the advice.

I finally got:

- Terrain Pack
- Winter Wars
- Eastern Front
- Winter / Desert Board

So, I'm broke for sometime now! Surprised

Regards


me too. I bought eastern front, terrain pack and winter/desert board Very Happy
      
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Re:What expansion/addition get after the core game? Wed, 04 January 2012 15:32
Törni wrote on Mon, 02 January 2012 16:01

Almilcar wrote on Mon, 02 January 2012 16:36

Thanks to all for the advice.

I finally got:

- Terrain Pack
- Winter Wars
- Eastern Front
- Winter / Desert Board

So, I'm broke for sometime now! Surprised

Regards


me too. I bought eastern front, terrain pack and winter/desert board Very Happy


Happy gaming to you both - you won't be disappointed with your choices.

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Re:What expansion/addition get after the core game? Wed, 04 January 2012 15:55
Thank you.

Now I'm looking for the CB 1... which seems to be hard to find anywhere.

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Re:What expansion/addition get after the core game? Wed, 04 January 2012 20:26
Almilcar wrote on Wed, 04 January 2012 18:55

Thank you.

Now I'm looking for the CB 1... which seems to be hard to find anywhere.

Regards.


Yes, CB#1 is out of print so it might be hard to find. Good luck! Smile
      
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Re:What expansion/addition get after the core game? Wed, 04 January 2012 20:33
I wonder if Days of Wonder would release a digital edition of it. I don't care DRMs as far I could print it out.

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Re:What expansion/addition get after the core game? Wed, 04 January 2012 20:44
Almilcar wrote on Wed, 04 January 2012 23:33

I wonder if Days of Wonder would release a digital edition of it. I don't care DRMs as far I could print it out.

Regards


I wouldn't wait around for it to come out as a PDF because it's not likely as long as there are any copies out on the market. Even though it might be hard to find, there will still be copies around for a very long time. Razz

As it is, you might want to pick up CB#2 while you search for the first book. Then you won't run into this problem in the future! Cool
      
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Re:What expansion/addition get after the core game? Thu, 05 January 2012 21:52
rasmussen81 wrote on Wed, 04 January 2012 20:44


As it is, you might want to pick up CB#2 while you search for the first book. Then you won't run into this problem in the future! Cool


I'm not sure what scenarios/campaign included in the CB#2 am able to play with the expansions I do have.

Is there any comprehensive list anywhere stating what expansions are needed?

Thanks

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Re:What expansion/addition get after the core game? Thu, 05 January 2012 22:04
Its not so hard to find it:
http://www.daysofwonder.com/memoir44/en/content/cb2/

The Island Hoppers Grand Campaign can be played with the base game and the Pacific Theater expansion. The Bicycle Blitzkrieg, Fall of Poland and Break Through Normandy campaigns require tiles from the Terrain Pack. The Normandy campaign also requires the Breakthrough boards. The Air Aces campaign requires the Air Pack expansion. If you don't own the Air Pack expansion, you can download the Air Rules on the rules page of this website.
      
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Re:What expansion/addition get after the core game? Thu, 05 January 2012 22:33
deemao wrote on Thu, 05 January 2012 22:04

Its not so hard to find it:
http://www.daysofwonder.com/memoir44/en/content/cb2/

The Island Hoppers Grand Campaign can be played with the base game and the Pacific Theater expansion. The Bicycle Blitzkrieg, Fall of Poland and Break Through Normandy campaigns require tiles from the Terrain Pack. The Normandy campaign also requires the Breakthrough boards. The Air Aces campaign requires the Air Pack expansion. If you don't own the Air Pack expansion, you can download the Air Rules on the rules page of this website.


Thanks for the reply Deemao.

Compared to the list I found out in boardgamegeek.com for the CB#1, the details provided in the web for the CB#2 are not very thorough

Again, thanks and kind regards.
      
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Re:What expansion/addition get after the core game? Fri, 06 January 2012 07:49
Almilcar wrote on Fri, 06 January 2012 01:33


Thanks for the reply Deemao.

Compared to the list I found out in boardgamegeek.com for the CB#1, the details provided in the web for the CB#2 are not very thorough

Again, thanks and kind regards.


That's probably because the CB#2 has only been out for a little while and people haven't had time to make a detailed list of what expansions each scenario requires. Give it time and you might start to see lists like that appear.

However, since you said that you don't have the Pacific Theater expansion or the Breakthrough Board it might not make sense to get CB#2 just yet. It's a great book full of exciting Campaigns, but you don't have most of the needed material yet.

Keep your eyes out for the CB#1 since you have most of the stuff needed for that! Very Happy
      
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Re:What expansion/addition get after the core game? Fri, 06 January 2012 08:32
Yes, that is the point.

I've got in 3 months:

- Online game (bought some credits)
- Base game
- TP + EF + WW + Winter/Desert Board

(+ Vassal Engine, of course)

I'd like to squeeze and play all the scenarios I already have before buying new expansions.

That's why I want CB#1... Maybe someone has got a spare one, willing to sell it Very Happy

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Re:What expansion/addition get after the core game? Fri, 06 January 2012 12:17
There is one selling on ebay currently ... you have 5 days ... !

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Re:What expansion/addition get after the core game? Fri, 06 January 2012 17:03
Jaykay2010 wrote on Fri, 06 January 2012 12:17

There is one selling on ebay currently ... you have 5 days ... !

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What Ebay? Ebay.com or co.uk?

Wow, edited! co.uk! Bid not allowed Only shipping to UK Mad Crying or Very Sad Sad !

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Re:What expansion/addition get after the core game? Wed, 11 January 2012 14:53
Eventually, I was able to find an afordable copy of CB#1.

Very Happy Surprised Laughing
      
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Re:What expansion/addition get after the core game? Wed, 11 January 2012 15:54
Almilcar wrote on Wed, 11 January 2012 17:53

Eventually, I was able to find an afordable copy of CB#1.

Very Happy Surprised Laughing


Congratulations!! It's a great set of Campaigns and you'll get many hours of enjoyment out of it. Cool
      
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Re:What expansion/addition get after the core game? Wed, 11 January 2012 23:08
Almilcar wrote on Thu, 05 January 2012 21:52

I'm not sure what scenarios/campaign included in the CB#2 am able to play with the expansions I do have.

Is there any comprehensive list anywhere stating what expansions are needed?


As you ask, so shall you recieve... or something like that.

For amilcar's pleasure, here is the list of required expansions for CB#2.
http://boardgamegeek.com/thread/749540/list-of-required-expa nsions
      
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