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onyx puffin
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Champions League groupings discussion Sat, 28 January 2012 20:20
Well exciting news is we probably will get 12 teams for Champions league. Now I would like opinions on a question for groupings: Should we have 4 groups of 3 teams or 3 groups of 4 teams with a "Play-in" week for second place finishers?

Reason for discussion: one system means only 4 winners advance, other system has 6 teams to advance, since 3 winning teams advance directly to semi-final, and 3 teams get wild-card play-in chance to advance. (6 teams)

A second benefit of using the 3 groups with 4 teams per group has added benefit of no weeks off, and all teams would get 6 matches, instead of 4.

In next box is the potential schedule of each:

[Updated on: Sat, 28 January 2012 20:39]

      
onyx puffin
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Re:Champions League groupings discussion Sat, 28 January 2012 20:21
A Champions League schedule with 12 teams using 4 groups of 3 teams, would look like this:

RR1 line-ups due: Feb 1 PLAY Feb 2-Feb 12

RR2 line-ups due: Feb 8 PLAY Feb 8-Feb 19

RR3 line-ups due: Feb 15 PLAY Feb 15-Feb 26

RR4 line-ups due: Feb 22 PLAY Feb 22-Mar 4

RR5 line-ups due: leg1 Feb.29 PLAY Mar 4 - Mar 11

RR6 line-ups due: leg2 Mar. 7 PLAY Mar. 11-Mar 18

SF line-ups due: leg1: Mar 14 PLAY Mar. 18-Mar 25

SF line-ups due: leg2 Mar 21 PLAY Mar 25 Apr 1

Final line-ups due: March 28 PLAY Apr 1 to Apr 8


In a 4 grouping, 3-team league, each team has 4 clashes per team, the fixtures schedule would be ('home' team first):
Week 1: C vs B, A - bye
Week 2: A vs C, B - bye
Week 3: B vs A, C - bye
Week 4: B vs C, A - bye
Week 5: C vs A, B - bye
Week 6: A vs B, C - bye

A Champions League schedule with 12 teams using 3 groups of 4 teams, would look like this:
RR1 line-ups due: Feb 1 PLAY Feb 2-Feb 12

RR2 line-ups due: Feb 8 PLAY Feb 8-Feb 19

RR3 line-ups due: Feb 15 PLAY Feb 15-Feb 26

RR4 line-ups due: Feb 22 PLAY Feb 22-Mar 4

RR5 line-ups due: leg1 Feb.29 PLAY Mar 4 - Mar 11

RR6 line-ups due: leg2 Mar. 7 PLAY Mar. 11-Mar 18

Play-in week line-ups due: Mar 14 PLAY Mar. 18-Mar 25

SF line-ups due: leg1 Mar 21 PLAY Mar 25 Apr 1

SF line-ups due: leg 2 March 28 leg2 PLAY Apr 1 to Apr 8

Final line-ups due: April 7 PLAY Apr 9 to Apr 15



The 3 grouping, 4 teams per group would have 6 clashes per team. the fixtures schedule would be ('home' team first):
Week 1: B vs A, D vs C
Week 2: A vs C, B vs D
Week 3: D vs A, C vs B
Week 4: A vs D, B vs C
Week 5: C vs A, D vs B
Week 6: A vs B, C vs D

When we have 3 brackets (Yellow Orange, & Red). So a play-off week will be established for the 3, 2nd place teams of each bracket to play to determine who gets 4th spot in semi-finals.

Play-In week would have the 3 second place teams playing a round of Yellow vs Orange, Red vs Yellow, Orange vs Red.Yes, it would be a double match for each team that week.
Scoring would be as done in rule 8 found on comprehensive rules FORUM note.

[Updated on: Sat, 28 January 2012 20:33]

      
Knockando
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Re:Champions League groupings discussion Sat, 28 January 2012 20:57
3 groups of 4, with no bye weeks.
      
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Re:Champions League groupings discussion Sat, 28 January 2012 21:00
3 groups of 4
      
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Re:Champions League groupings discussion Sat, 28 January 2012 23:21
3 groups with 4 Teams
      
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Re:Champions League groupings discussion Sat, 28 January 2012 23:30
3 groups 4 teams
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Very Happy
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Re:Champions League groupings discussion Sun, 29 January 2012 01:18
3 groups a 4 teams, so every team has to play every round Very Happy
      
Hecki
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Re:Champions League groupings discussion Sun, 29 January 2012 02:53
And why not 2 groups with 6 teams?
      
onyx puffin
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Re:Champions League groupings discussion Sun, 29 January 2012 06:37
It is my hope to do the League Division Random Draw on Sunday, January 29 at 20:00 CEST. (Rule 6 of comprehensive rules for Champion League 2012)

Teams will will be apportioned a colour into - 3 league Divisions: (in order) Yellow, Orange, Red,


counting my vote, that is 6 of the 12 teams favoring 3 Divisions of 4 teams.

I will attempt to do the draw as stemayf has done in the past. Though hopefully stemayf may be here to do the draw since he is so good at that.

[Updated on: Sun, 29 January 2012 06:41]

      
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Re:Champions League groupings discussion Sun, 29 January 2012 16:22
I wanna be better than hecki with 1 group of 12 !

3 groups of 4 sounds fine !
      
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Re:Champions League groupings discussion Sun, 29 January 2012 17:37
one group of 12, more matches Very Happy
      
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Re:Champions League groupings discussion Sun, 29 January 2012 18:31
Or one group of 11 and a special group of 1 for Sysy's team with automatic qualification (only way he's qualifying!) Razz
      
onyx puffin
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Re:Champions League groupings discussion Sun, 29 January 2012 20:38
Champions League Draft was held in the lobby on January 29th at 20:00 CEST. Witness confirmation by Sysyphus, Dea and others. Here are the Divisions as recorded:

Team: F4: 11166 RED
Team: DD: 11096 Orange
Team: ACE: 11093 Yellow

Team: G70 : 11051 Yellow
Team: TAM 10900 Red
Team: TOP 10896 Orange

Team: BTB : 10888 Orange
team: LOL 10832 Red
Team: J4F: 10779 Yellow

Team: ITR 10480 Yellow
Team: Ewil 10442 Orange
Team: GTO 10417 Red


League Division breakdown is:

Red Division Teams: F4, TAM, LOL, GTO

Orange Divsion teams: DD, TOP, BTB, Ewil

Yellow Division Teams: ACE, G70, J4F, ITR
      
    
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