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MaleneAa
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Second Account - Accusations Wed, 22 February 2012 16:17
Hello, I'll start this thread as im tired and afraid of people accusing me for being a 2nd account. Feel free to move thread if im on wrong place.

My name is Vegard and i'm from Norway, i'm 25years old.
My account name is MaleneAA, named after my Wife.
My Score is at the moment 1560 and i'm in the top200.
I have played a bit above 500games.

These last numbers i gave you are the sole reason many have lately accused me of being someone'n 2nd accound.
I have had that discussion in the lobby or ingame a couple of times now, and never been believed. So what can i do?

A player named Ace-(fill in a name), told me to seek the community for such discussions. And so i did, i've been reading alot on the forums. I've read the 2nd account thread and several other threads. And i'm truly amazed to see the proffessionalism and level of structure in your tournaments and so on. I think i seems like alot of fun and i would really like to join in in such a community when/if a get a bit better at playing.
I don't know the future and i don't know if im gonna keep playing long enough to do so, but at least i've earned a chance to try. And will not sit down and be accused of being someone's secong account, I will not let some players destroy my nickname. Players doing so should really look into themself and think. Not throw accusation around. I read the thread and i do respect you're having troubles with this. But you're not going to do the TTR community any favours if you can't accept new players comming in and do good. Is there no room for new players at top level? Do you have to play 5000games to get accepted? Whats the deal?

Im just a new player who opened an account in order to have fun, played mostly Europe and Mega-games beacuse I thought that was the most fun. Usually drawing tickets like crazy and look to get above 300points. Normally failing, needless to say i guess Smile
Then after playing 100games or so, i had a look at the rankning system, and decided to try and improve. I failed, fell from 1280 to 1150 by playing multis in different type of games (what score does a new player start at btw?). But by failing and trying i learned that my best chances was 2player on normal USA, where i just ended the game very early. since then i've learned a lot, and moved slowly and safely upwards.

The problem with accusation came when I reached a score of 1500.
First time with a player called ICE-Surfer, and today with a guy called Rocketblizzard. Both failed to believe me.

My bottom question is, What am i going to do for such guys to believe me?
I don't want to be called a cheat, ofcourse i'm flattered by it, but i'd rather have people telling me positive things and respect me.
And most of all, i don't want them to destroy a potential ttr-career.

I hope someone could help me with this

Vegard Aa



      
JenAck
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Re:Second Account - Accusations Wed, 22 February 2012 17:00
well this "story" is a reaction of all this poor cheaters..
its hard as a newby..

be luck i was such a bad player in my first time that nobody call me a cheater Laughing
and now i play without constance and lose that much that the most peoples know i am not a cheater Very Happy Rolling Eyes

but i can understand if some players are annoyed to be called a cheater and know that its not true
      
SY/\/ \/\/ill
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Re:Second Account - Accusations Wed, 22 February 2012 18:04
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[Updated on: Wed, 22 February 2012 18:10]

      
SY/\/ \/\/ill
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Re:Second Account - Accusations Wed, 22 February 2012 18:10
ACE Will wrote on Wed, 22 February 2012 17:04

ACE - xxx was probably me

I can't confirm whether MaleneAa is a second account or not, but they were polite and played well enough...

Unless Days of Wonder are able to cross-reference IP addresses to check for multiple accounts on the same computer/network or something, then it's very difficult to prove your innocence... and proving if someone is guilty.

Just keep playing (and never be tempted to open a second account!)

G70 Sysyphus, oops Will

Thought I was posting from my other account... Very Happy

      
MaleneAa
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Re:Second Account - Accusations Wed, 22 February 2012 18:45
Thank you guys for answering.

I can understand it's problem, if its not possible to chech ip adresseses etc. But im sure i read somewhere else that someone was busted for it.
Anyhow, we should probarbly threat eachothers more like golfers do. In golf it's easy to cheat, but you just don't do it. It only ruins your own fun and the game. Keep the game real and leave the accusations. accusationers is no better then a cheater. (sry for my english).

I tried to write a PM to rocketblizzard for a comment on this, but he has ignored me, so it was'nt possible. would like him to come and say something. I understand he's a well known person in here.

Sry for the bitching, i'm actually a positive person Smile
but i want this straighten out.

      
SY/\/ \/\/ill
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Re:Second Account - Accusations Wed, 22 February 2012 19:44
I think rocket might ignore you if you call her a man Rolling Eyes

I think Rocket is a girl... I might be wrong and getting ignored!
      
Sysyphus - Pommard
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Re:Second Account - Accusations Wed, 22 February 2012 20:11
Hi MaleneAa,

1) Welcome here, it's always good to see new faces in the community ! Especially, nice to see a Norwegian Smile

2) This community has had its ups and downs about atmosphere and 2nd accounts. We tried hard to bring a sane atmosphere here after numerous cases of cheaters, spammers, racist (yes...) etc on one hand and 2nd accounts on the other hand.
It's true that when we decided to fight against those, the battle was pretty harsh and not enjoyable, but I think we've reached some nicer standards of discussions and competitions by resolving crisises and handling them by reaffirming a stronger etiquette.

Etiquette that may not please certain persons or ways of thinking, but it's the common ground that keeps this community united, efficient and dynamic.

3) Some players, witnesses of that history, even confronted to cheating behaviours in their own team, still have some resent. Accusing is indeed one thing, Rocket should have been cautious with it...will probably realize your account is legit and hopefully will leave a nicer note next time.

Truth is that some players dont need that many games to be performant. Techniques of playing are now widespreading, a 1300+ player is way stronger now than he was 5 years ago. Some people just figure it faster than others. Bry guy, mef, ommie or even myself didnt need 3000 games or 10 accounts to reach top rankings pretty fast.
If you take your time watching more than playing, and paying attention to what is successful, you'll be indeed a faster top player.

4) Holding a second account is no big deal if you are not a cheater. Although some things are annoying :

a) You dont know who you are actually playing...Knowledge of your opponent is a key factor, according to me.
b) Making a mystery of holding a second account makes it obviously more suspicious...
c) Denying what is obvious and staying mute to any comments or legit questions asked to you, second-account holder, is in my opinion pretty ridiculous... Insulting your opponent as a way to defend your second account is retarded.

5) By writing this post in the forum to explain the situation and by making your situation clear, you just found the best way to solve the problem. You didnt need many posts to figure it out...Guess it comes with your ttr skills Smile
Community is great when people know each other. There is no need to give details of ones personal life to be a legit player, but actually knowing who everybody is, is definitely a plus for the comfort of the community.In most of chess, tennis, bridge, curling, cooking, pageant tourneys, your opponent has an identity/personality, it should be quite the same here. Your comparison with golf is indeed pretty good.


6) Enjoy your time here and hopefully see you in some upcoming tourneys.

[Updated on: Wed, 22 February 2012 20:37]

      
TuS WhiteTrain
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Re:Second Account - Accusations Wed, 22 February 2012 23:28
Some people learn the game quick, some will never learn it. If you look for a 2nd account, you are wrong here with this guy, but there are presently two nice examples in the Top 20 Wink


Welcome to the World of Witchhunt, MaleneAa Wink

Don`t let them spoil your fun.

Cheers White
      
Sysyphus - Pommard
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Re:Second Account - Accusations Thu, 23 February 2012 00:18
Go page 2, you'll find one of your teammate. Wink Love

[Updated on: Thu, 23 February 2012 00:23]

      
SY/\/ \/\/ill
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Re:Second Account - Accusations Thu, 23 February 2012 02:17
Still amazed DoW haven't banned "Still Here"... That guy (I think John D, John D2, BIP Still here etc) has been banned more times than I care to count for racist behavior.

Good luck MaleneAa, you'll kick ass at the top in no time! And Felix/WhiteTrain is right, some people never learn. I'm giving him private tuition at the moment. He is far too afraid to play an 'Aleopold multi'. Let's hope with some confidence he can achieve mental toughness...

Julien.

I mean Will... Razz
      
MaleneAa
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Re:Second Account - Accusations Thu, 23 February 2012 16:21
Thank you all again for very good answers Smile

It really helps hearing other people's opinion and im very glad i decided to start a thread in here.

Looking forward to trying to get better and maybe someday play in one of your tournaments.

Feel a bit addicted to this game at the moment, don't know if thats a good thing. But on the other hand i have quit much time on my hand in the wintertime. Basically do all my work in the summer season as i'm a fisherman.


      
SY/\/ \/\/ill
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Re:Second Account - Accusations Mon, 27 February 2012 12:57
Do you 'fish' off the coast of Somalia and come back with a nice catch of oil tankers??

MaleenAaaaaaaaa the Pirate

Yo ho ho
      
    
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