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silenttimo
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Pre-printed "classic" maps : yes or no ? Fri, 16 March 2012 10:31
On the french forum, we have opened a thread asking that DoW propose, as a future M44 add-on, pre-printed maps, classical size (with or w/o information printed on the sides, but olverlord maps are cool for having all the informations).

it's there for those who understand french.

Right now, suggestions are :
- a kind of map pack, with 10 paper maps (like OL), a scenario on each side ;

- scenarios taken from the most popular ones (west : 1st wave / pegasus bridge, cobra, ... ; eastern : RBF, Moscow and/or lysianska ; med' : sidi-omar, halfaya pass, cauldron, tunisia ; pacific : meatgrinder, matanikau, counter-attack...).

- if too expensive at first sight, why not either as a Print-on-demand (PoD) product, OR after a subscription through Kickstarter / Ulule (I think ulule is french equivalent to kickstarter).


The main reason for asking is :
- gaining time when introducing new players to the game ;
- gainig time when time is shorter ; especially for teachers who wants to introduce younger players to our hobby during the mid-day break ;
- easier to take away if needed (lighter maps, no pre-printed hex, rules for the map on the sides of the pre-printed map).


What do you think ?
What would you suggest ?
      
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Re:Pre-printed "classic" maps : yes or no ? Fri, 16 March 2012 22:15
I think it will be a must have add to M44. My little plastic soldiers can't wait for more printed maps. Rolling Eyes
      
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Re:Pre-printed "classic" maps : yes or no ? Fri, 16 March 2012 23:58
djedi gamer écrit le Fri, 16 March 2012 22:15

I think it will be a must have add to M44. My little plastic soldiers can't wait for more printed maps. Rolling Eyes


We are not speaking about NEW maps, but "familiar" maps pre-printed, just to be sure we understand each others !

Easier to carry, faster to prepare (so, less time needed for a complete game & rematch).

      
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Re:Pre-printed "classic" maps : yes or no ? Sat, 17 March 2012 02:55
Sounds like an idea to me.
One Question: How do you decide which maps to print? Do they print only official scenarios? Popularity speaking, Which of the scenarios do they print? Do they add the campaign maps?
To me this sounds good for speed of setup and control of hex map settings, but I can see a separate truck for some of us to haul all of our maps around in. We all know that we are going to have them all.
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Re:Pre-printed "classic" maps : yes or no ? Sat, 17 March 2012 11:25
Hello,

I managed to create a template using a program called Inkscape.
The template is layered so that only the "set-up" one has to be modified.

Once the "set-up" is done (added terrain tiles, units, badges, etc.) you can create a full-printable - high-quality PDF file containing a scenario of 27,9 x 19,7 inches (scale 1:1).

Here is an example I used to test it:

http://i40.tinypic.com/5bnts1.png

Haven't asked myself how much would it cost to print the PDF file at full color.

I can provide the high-quality PDF file if someone wants to delve into it more.

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Re:Pre-printed "classic" maps : yes or no ? Sun, 18 March 2012 00:48
Regarding pre-print maps by DOW. ( i also answered french speaking forums)

The idea is good, but since you mention 'popular' scenarios, it has a drawback. popular means extensive use.
Since it is printed on 'paper', that will ware off very quickly and tear up ! (especialy where it is folded)
(The folded 'edges' are also a drawback, to put troops on.)

Secondly, i gess the re-useability is the reason DOW went for a hard cardboard game and tyles.

I got some other suggestions for DOW.

A print on cheats for scenario overviews (same as in the manuals and books) that you can collect in a map, so you dont ahve to go trew all those books and manuels to search for a scenario setup.

Secondly, i would like to be able to order 'SPARE PARTS'.
The cardboard maps can wear out ! Units and badges can get lost.
Cards have wear and can tear.
Maybe posters with an overview for: UNITS, TERRAIN TYLES, ...

What about extra kinds off units ?

Extra scenario packs for diffrent fronts ...

"i got plenty imagination, i gess i m not the only one" Rolling Eyes
      
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Re:Pre-printed "classic" maps : yes or no ? Thu, 22 March 2012 20:14
Hi Almilcar,

I doesn't understand well your post...

Can you provide the program (the way to do other scenario in High quality) or files (scenarios ) ?
Does it takes a long time to do the printable version of a scenario with this program ?

You can answer in MP if you want...
      
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Re:Pre-printed "classic" maps : yes or no ? Fri, 23 March 2012 10:14
Hello,

the software used is called "Inkscape".

I created a template where from now onwards, I only have to add the tiles and the units in the appropiate layer.

Finally, you can save as a PDF file, at high-resolution/full-color, ready to be printed in a local store or using something like "PosteRazor"

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Re:Pre-printed "classic" maps : yes or no ? Sat, 26 May 2012 15:54
could we get some pics off the endresults please ? Smile

It could be a good idea to introduce people to the game in gaming clubs to have pre-printed maps (scenarios), to save time settign up ! Rolling Eyes
      
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Re:Pre-printed "classic" maps : yes or no ? Sat, 26 May 2012 18:42
Flemish_Havy wrote on Sat, 26 May 2012 15:54

could we get some pics off the endresults please ? Smile

It could be a good idea to introduce people to the game in gaming clubs to have pre-printed maps (scenarios), to save time settign up ! Rolling Eyes


There you go: Sainte-Mere Eglise

http://i48.tinypic.com/izoz1k.png
      
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Re:Pre-printed "classic" maps : yes or no ? Mon, 13 August 2012 01:50
No.

It takes a lot longer to set up Breakthrough and Overlord, and to play the former. If I had some Breakthrough maps, I might play those more. I hope to make some print outs for unclassified Overlord scenarios (e.g. Operation Market Garden or Firefight in Neffe) soon to make a battle map, but we'll see.
      
    
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