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Re:Memoir '44 Equipment Pack Wed, 06 June 2012 23:42
boersma8 wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 05:16

OK. Looks good. A shame though that none of the equipment is in nation specific colors.


Personally, I prefer the "colorless" plastic, as I will likely be painting mine.

This probably matches the color of figures already released with the battle map series, and included in half portions in this package.

Since these are non-essential pieces, most likely those that will purchase them are the obsessed like me, and a great majority will be painting them anyway. I bet this figured into DOW's decision.

      
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Re:Memoir '44 Equipment Pack Thu, 07 June 2012 03:35
Kelly's Hero wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 16:40

Nordiskanc wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 14:29

sdnative wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 10:02

boersma8 wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 02:16

OK. Looks good. A shame though that none of the equipment is in nation specific colors.


I agree! Sad


We can always hope they aren't all that white/grey colour. After all no official word from DoW on that.


Actually there is:

Antoine wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 06:04

All figures are cast in gray plastic.


http://www.daysofwonder.com/en/msg/?th=25332&start=10


I figured such, but was hoping anyway...
      
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Re:Memoir '44 Equipment Pack Thu, 07 June 2012 03:36
Sgt Storm wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 17:42

boersma8 wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 05:16

OK. Looks good. A shame though that none of the equipment is in nation specific colors.


Personally, I prefer the "colorless" plastic, as I will likely be painting mine.

This probably matches the color of figures already released with the battle map series, and included in half portions in this package.

Since these are non-essential pieces, most likely those that will purchase them are the obsessed like me, and a great majority will be painting them anyway. I bet this figured into DOW's decision.



I won't be painting the pieces, I'll spend my time playing Very Happy
      
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Re:Memoir '44 Equipment Pack Thu, 07 June 2012 05:18
Nordiskanc wrote on Thu, 07 June 2012 05:35

Kelly's Hero wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 16:40

Nordiskanc wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 14:29

sdnative wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 10:02

boersma8 wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 02:16

OK. Looks good. A shame though that none of the equipment is in nation specific colors.


I agree! Sad


We can always hope they aren't all that white/grey colour. After all no official word from DoW on that.


Actually there is:

Antoine wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 06:04

All figures are cast in gray plastic.


http://www.daysofwonder.com/en/msg/?th=25332&start=10


I figured such, but was hoping anyway...


I kind of like the grey plastic for the Finish Ski Troops...but I could see why people would want different colors for the French and Italian figures. What color would work for them? I think a quick coat of paint would be easy to add.
      
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Re:Memoir '44 Equipment Pack Thu, 07 June 2012 05:23
French in sky blue.
Italians in grey, darker than original but not as dark as Germans.
      
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Re:Memoir '44 Equipment Pack Thu, 07 June 2012 05:31
red_zebra wrote on Thu, 07 June 2012 07:23

French in sky blue.
Italians in grey, darker than original but not as dark as Germans.


I can see the grey for the Italians (and unless I decide to paint a little more detail that's the color I'll probably use) but I don't think I could bring myself to use sky blue for the French!

The current colors of the figures are all so 'military-ish' that Sky Blue just doesn't seem to fit in my mind! Razz
      
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Re:Memoir '44 Equipment Pack Thu, 07 June 2012 06:00
rasmussen81 wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 22:31

red_zebra wrote on Thu, 07 June 2012 07:23

French in sky blue.
Italians in grey, darker than original but not as dark as Germans.


I can see the grey for the Italians (and unless I decide to paint a little more detail that's the color I'll probably use) but I don't think I could bring myself to use sky blue for the French!

The current colors of the figures are all so 'military-ish' that Sky Blue just doesn't seem to fit in my mind! Razz


Haha, this is also not 'military-ish', but I'm tempted for dark red
      
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Re:Memoir '44 Equipment Pack Thu, 07 June 2012 07:09
GhostBrigades19 wrote on Thu, 07 June 2012 08:00

rasmussen81 wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 22:31

red_zebra wrote on Thu, 07 June 2012 07:23

French in sky blue.
Italians in grey, darker than original but not as dark as Germans.


I can see the grey for the Italians (and unless I decide to paint a little more detail that's the color I'll probably use) but I don't think I could bring myself to use sky blue for the French!

The current colors of the figures are all so 'military-ish' that Sky Blue just doesn't seem to fit in my mind! Razz


Haha, this is also not 'military-ish', but I'm tempted for dark red


Laughing Yes, Dark Red and Sky Blue might be too 'crazy' for me, but to each his own!! Cool

If I were to use one solid color, maybe I would do something like Light Green...still part of the Allied color system but unique to themselves. Smile
      
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Re:Memoir '44 Equipment Pack Thu, 07 June 2012 16:52
Here's a link discussing the color of French uniforms in WWII, but no pics.


http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_color_were_the_French_army_un iforms_during_World_War_2
      
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Re:Memoir '44 Equipment Pack Thu, 07 June 2012 17:03
Check out this video. It shows many uniforms, though only a couple French officers. Its pretty cool anyway.

Starts with US
British at 1:31
Russian at 2:27
French at 3:11 (followed by Polish officers)
German at 3:37
Italian at 5:11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B95-Pcv7XJQ

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Re:Memoir '44 Equipment Pack Thu, 07 June 2012 20:56
I don't paint board game miniatures. I am very much looking forward to getting my hands on these mini's. My birthday is in August and being married now, I told my wife that this would be a great birthday present.

      
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Re:Memoir '44 Equipment Pack Thu, 07 June 2012 21:57
rasmussen81 wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 23:01

red_zebra wrote on Thu, 07 June 2012 07:23

French in sky blue.

... but I don't think I could bring myself to use sky blue for the French!

The current colors of the figures are all so 'military-ish' that Sky Blue just doesn't seem to fit in my mind! Razz


Sky blue (bleue horizon) is kind of traditional colour for plastic French troops, reflecting their WWI uniform.

In WWII they had a kind olive.
http://www.casematepublishing.com/title.php?isbn=97823525017 94
      
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Re:Memoir '44 Equipment Pack Thu, 07 June 2012 22:39
Sgt Storm wrote on Thu, 07 June 2012 17:03

Check out this video. It shows many uniforms, though only a couple French officers. Its pretty cool anyway.

Starts with US
British at 1:31
Russian at 2:27
French at 3:11 (followed by Polish officers)
German at 3:37
Italian at 5:11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B95-Pcv7XJQ


LOL Notice that the French FL officer gets a little mustache! Wonder if it was part of the uniform!

      
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Re:Memoir '44 Equipment Pack Thu, 07 June 2012 23:08
Nygaard wrote on Thu, 07 June 2012 16:39

Sgt Storm wrote on Thu, 07 June 2012 17:03

Check out this video. It shows many uniforms, though only a couple French officers. Its pretty cool anyway.

Starts with US
British at 1:31
Russian at 2:27
French at 3:11 (followed by Polish officers)
German at 3:37
Italian at 5:11

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B95-Pcv7XJQ


LOL Notice that the French FL officer gets a little mustache! Wonder if it was part of the uniform!




Yeah. Also the British long range dessert group (LRDG) officer has a beard. And the Japanese officer at the end looks less than convincing. And that smarmy smile the guy has cracks me up, not the least that the guy looks like Ozzie Nelson from the old Ozzie and Harriet TV show. Laughing
      
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Re:Memoir '44 Equipment Pack Sun, 10 June 2012 13:27
50th wrote on Thu, 07 June 2012 19:56

My birthday is in August and being married now, I told my wife that this would be a great birthday present.


Me too on both counts, though it would've been nice to have the expansion on my birthday as it falls on a Friday, with the possibility on a Memoir-a-thon weekend! Wink
      
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Re:Memoir '44 Equipment Pack Mon, 11 June 2012 17:36
Achtung Panzer wrote on Sun, 10 June 2012 06:27

50th wrote on Thu, 07 June 2012 19:56

My birthday is in August and being married now, I told my wife that this would be a great birthday present.


Me too on both counts, though it would've been nice to have the expansion on my birthday as it falls on a Friday, with the possibility on a Memoir-a-thon weekend! Wink



I like your thinking on that!! I am going to a gaming convention in a couple of weeks and will be running my Omaha overlord scenario.
      
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Re:Memoir '44 Equipment Pack Tue, 12 June 2012 01:35
I paint to tell them apart easily... yeah my French will be light blue, the It's will be a light greenish tan, and the Finns??? snowy grey I think....

Now I have to try and make room in the bag for them.... running out of space quick.
      
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Re:Memoir '44 Equipment Pack Tue, 12 June 2012 01:52
Could the Finnish Ski Troops be left in the white?
      
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Re:Memoir '44 Equipment Pack Fri, 15 June 2012 02:21
Kelly's Hero wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 16:40

Nordiskanc wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 14:29

sdnative wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 10:02

boersma8 wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 02:16

OK. Looks good. A shame though that none of the equipment is in nation specific colors.


I agree! Sad


We can always hope they aren't all that white/grey colour. After all no official word from DoW on that.


Actually there is:

Antoine wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 06:04

All figures are cast in gray plastic.


http://www.daysofwonder.com/en/msg/?th=25332&start=10



And has DoW given any official reason why they didn't bother to cast the national units in their national colors. Seems a bit cheap and/or lazy not to have done so.
      
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Re:Memoir '44 Equipment Pack Fri, 15 June 2012 04:27
Springheeledjack wrote on Thu, 14 June 2012 17:21

Kelly's Hero wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 16:40

Nordiskanc wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 14:29

sdnative wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 10:02

boersma8 wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 02:16

OK. Looks good. A shame though that none of the equipment is in nation specific colors.


I agree! Sad


We can always hope they aren't all that white/grey colour. After all no official word from DoW on that.


Actually there is:

Antoine wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 06:04

All figures are cast in gray plastic.


http://www.daysofwonder.com/en/msg/?th=25332&start=10



And has DoW given any official reason why they didn't bother to cast the national units in their national colors. Seems a bit cheap and/or lazy not to have done so.



Even though Polish Calvary, Italian Arty, Landing craft and Funnies are cool they are not used very much compared to other units. I would rather have had separate distinct pieces for each nationality like the Tank Destroyers all being German Elephants would rather have had U.S. and Russian tank destroyers, Black Waffen SS tigers and different elite troops for each nationality.
Just my opinion.

[Updated on: Fri, 15 June 2012 04:28]

      
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Re:Memoir '44 Equipment Pack Fri, 15 June 2012 07:26
Springheeledjack wrote on Thu, 14 June 2012 20:21

Kelly's Hero wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 16:40

Nordiskanc wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 14:29

sdnative wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 10:02

boersma8 wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 02:16

OK. Looks good. A shame though that none of the equipment is in nation specific colors.


I agree! Sad


We can always hope they aren't all that white/grey colour. After all no official word from DoW on that.


Actually there is:

Antoine wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 06:04

All figures are cast in gray plastic.


http://www.daysofwonder.com/en/msg/?th=25332&start=10



And has DoW given any official reason why they didn't bother to cast the national units in their national colors. Seems a bit cheap and/or lazy not to have done so.



Actually the reason has to do with moulds. It is less expensive to make larger moulds with various types of unit per mould than to mould each piece separately and in a separate color. Yes, DOW could have done as you said but no one would pay the cost for that product. This is a reasonable and cost effective compromise which gets the product out to the most folks at the best price. Kudos to DOW for taking the time and effort to produce another top notch product. Merci Eric!
Smile

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Re:Memoir '44 Equipment Pack Fri, 15 June 2012 19:44
stevens wrote on Fri, 15 June 2012 07:26


Actually the reason has to do with moulds. It is less expensive to make larger moulds with various types of unit per mould than to mould each piece separately and in a separate color. Yes, DOW could have done as you said but know one would pay the cost for that product. This is a reasonable and cost effective compromise which gets the product out to the most folks at the best price. Kudos to DOW for taking the time and effort to produce another top notch product. Merci Eric!
Smile

I think we should say thank you to Yann too. If I'm correct, he's the project/product manager for Memoir and Memoir Online.

[Updated on: Fri, 15 June 2012 19:45]

      
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Re:Memoir '44 Equipment Pack Sat, 16 June 2012 11:21
Springheeledjack wrote on Fri, 15 June 2012 01:21

Kelly's Hero wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 16:40

Nordiskanc wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 14:29

sdnative wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 10:02

boersma8 wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 02:16

OK. Looks good. A shame though that none of the equipment is in nation specific colors.


I agree! Sad


We can always hope they aren't all that white/grey colour. After all no official word from DoW on that.


Actually there is:

Antoine wrote on Wed, 06 June 2012 06:04

All figures are cast in gray plastic.


http://www.daysofwonder.com/en/msg/?th=25332&start=10



And has DoW given any official reason why they didn't bother to cast the national units in their national colors. Seems a bit cheap and/or lazy not to have done so.




And that comment about DoW seems a bit cheap and lazy given the excellent product they make for us to enjoy.
      
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Re:Memoir '44 Equipment Pack Sat, 16 June 2012 15:01
To all those who are complaining.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUY IT!!!
      
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Re:Memoir '44 Equipment Pack Sat, 16 June 2012 15:11
Well said

If you don't like it don't buy it

Is it perfect, no of course not

Does it give to the long time Memoir supporters almost all of their requested new bits and pieces, why yes it does.

I for one am grateful to the DOW staff (And Richard Borg) that they found time to listen and arrive at a cost effective way of producing parts that the vast bulk of Memoir supporters will be only to happy to spend their hard earned cash on. Very Happy
      
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Re:Memoir '44 Equipment Pack Sat, 16 June 2012 17:52
Springheeledjack wrote on Thu, 14 June 2012 20:21

And has DoW given any official reason why they didn't bother to cast the national units in their national colors. Seems a bit cheap and/or lazy not to have done so.


I'd think the answer would be self-evident, and it has nothing to do with being cheap and lazy. Honestly, it's just an absurd accusation.
      
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Re:Memoir '44 Equipment Pack Sat, 16 June 2012 22:52
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To all those who are complaining.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUY IT!!!


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Re:Memoir '44 Equipment Pack Sun, 17 June 2012 02:38
Vulch wrote on Sat, 16 June 2012 06:01

To all those who are complaining.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUY IT!!!


Does not mean that people are not allowed to have their own opinions on what they want or expect!
This is a forum for discussion and everyone has a right to exercise their opinion whether it be positive or negative.

I'll be buying it... It is among one of my favorite games to play with my sons. I just need to learn to paint where is that primer on painting from Ras???
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Re:Memoir '44 Equipment Pack Sun, 17 June 2012 07:11
>Does it give to the long time Memoir supporters almost all of their requested new bits and pieces, why yes it does.

I'll certainly be buying the equipment pack when it arrives at my local game store for the reason quoted above. I played one of the Eastern front scenarios the other day and would have loved to have had some actual Finnish ski troops instead of Germans with red badges!

I won't be painting mine either because then I'd feel compelled to put them in a foam case or something instead of piling them back into the box, but to those that do paint them, I think that is neat. Also, I have enough painting on my plate right now with my 40K ork army ... and I'm also thinking of getting into micro armor with a friend at the game store.

-- Ann

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Re:Memoir '44 Equipment Pack Sun, 17 June 2012 07:14
Ann W wrote on Sun, 17 June 2012 09:11

>Does it give to the long time Memoir supporters almost all of their requested new bits and pieces, why yes it does.

I'll certainly be buying the equipment pack when it arrives at my local game store for the reason quoted above. I played one of the Eastern front scenarios the other day and would have loved to have had some actual Finnish ski troops instead of Germans with red badges!

-- Ann


Amen to that! I'm looking forward to the huge increase in figures on the board from this expansion and it will be a nice motivation to go back and play some of those scenarios that use different figures! Cool
      
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Re:Memoir '44 Equipment Pack Sun, 17 June 2012 07:42
sdnative wrote on Sat, 16 June 2012 18:38

Vulch wrote on Sat, 16 June 2012 06:01

To all those who are complaining.

YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUY IT!!!


Does not mean that people are not allowed to have their own opinions on what they want or expect!
This is a forum for discussion and everyone has a right to exercise their opinion whether it be positive or negative.




This is very true, however, from what I have seen, DoW goes a bit out of there way to please their M44 fans. I'm thinking of back when the Campaign Bag was released with a paper breakthrough map... now, I wasn't around back then but from what I understand there was a large call for a hard-board breakthrough map, and DoW delivered. More recently, there has been a large call for DoW to make the Tigers and Supply Trucks available since the battle maps they first came with are now out-of-print and very hard to find. DoW has delivered on that as well. There has been a large call for a French Army, and individual minis that represent different types of units - and again, DoW has delivered.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, fine. I can appreciate the desire to have the nations in their own color, and I probably would even prefer it that way myself, but to go and start a poll where everyone can voice their displeasure, practically within 24 hours of the announcement? Seriously? It kind of reminds me of a kid I once saw who had just opened all of his toys on Christmas and was then throwing a tantrum because something was 'not quite right'.

Some of us find it irritating... that's my opinion.

      
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Re:Memoir '44 Equipment Pack Sun, 17 June 2012 13:50
Indeed, thanks Eric, Yann, Antoine, Everyone else at DoW and Richard for their hard work obviously.

Something that would be cheap and lazy ? NO expansion

As for the grey color, I guess some of you will paint them anyway

I'm eager to play the new maps (still more work from the staff) and replay the old ones with new figures !
      
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Re:Memoir '44 Equipment Pack Mon, 18 June 2012 02:06
Kelly's Hero wrote on Sun, 17 June 2012 01:12

There has been a large call for a French Army, and individual minis that represent different types of units - and again, DoW has delivered.



That is the problem, the French army was NOT delivered, only the infantry. No tanks, no artillery.

And with this generic grey French infantry I can assume that there will never be a French army pack. Sad

      
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Re:Memoir '44 Equipment Pack Mon, 18 June 2012 03:35
For those of you who do not want or like painting minis, try painting just the bases of the different army fig. It will save time and money.
      
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Re:Memoir '44 Equipment Pack Mon, 18 June 2012 08:00
Great idea. Maybe I'll do that, because I don't like painting.
      
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Re:Memoir '44 Equipment Pack Mon, 18 June 2012 11:25
Erik Uitdebroeck wrote on Mon, 18 June 2012 10:00

Great idea. Maybe I'll do that, because I don't like painting.


Another good option could be picking a color you like and spray painting the figures to make them stand out from each other. After a little bit of washing and maybe a primer, the spray paint should work just fine! Cool
      
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Re:Memoir '44 Equipment Pack Mon, 18 June 2012 13:07
Hi,

Why not a tank pack later:
Churchill for Britsh troops // Somua for French troops ( Stug III for german and M13/40 for Italian in option).

Why not an artillery pack later :
25 pounder (British) / 105 Howitzer (US and others allied44) / 10.5 german or 88mm instead.

Just wait for parts blisters from 6 figs as they made for Battlemaps. Price will do...
      
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Re:Memoir '44 Equipment Pack Mon, 18 June 2012 14:48
I for one am looking forward to having some plastic landing craft. I only wish it also had amtracks, maybe another armor and equipment pack later. I'm also looking forward to using the crab tanks in Brummbar's Juno Beach advanced overlord scenario!

      
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Re:Memoir '44 Equipment Pack Mon, 18 June 2012 18:17
rasmussen81 wrote on Mon, 18 June 2012 11:25

Erik Uitdebroeck wrote on Mon, 18 June 2012 10:00

Great idea. Maybe I'll do that, because I don't like painting.


Another good option could be picking a color you like and spray painting the figures to make them stand out from each other. After a little bit of washing and maybe a primer, the spray paint should work just fine! Cool


Yea, I was thinking doing that. I believe the Army Painter method may work perfect for me. Quick and clean. I'm not a handy-man myself, so I'll go for the easiest way.

And maybe I'm asking for too much, but I'd love to see a colour list/table/guide for each army/figures from senior painters so that newbies won't have to struggle with the colours. Would be nice! Cool

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Re:Memoir '44 Equipment Pack Mon, 18 June 2012 19:23
Almilcar wrote on Mon, 18 June 2012 20:17

rasmussen81 wrote on Mon, 18 June 2012 11:25

Erik Uitdebroeck wrote on Mon, 18 June 2012 10:00

Great idea. Maybe I'll do that, because I don't like painting.


Another good option could be picking a color you like and spray painting the figures to make them stand out from each other. After a little bit of washing and maybe a primer, the spray paint should work just fine! Cool


Yea, I was thinking doing that. I believe the Army Painter method may work perfect for me. Quick and clean. I'm not a handy-man myself, so I'll go for the easiest way.

And maybe I'm asking for too much, but I'd love to see a colour list/table/guide for each army/figures from senior painters so that newbies won't have to struggle with the colours. Would be nice! Cool


There are a few of those around, but are you talking about painting them all one color (in which case a realistic color guide would be less useful) or are you wanting to paint some details on the figures?

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