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Equipment Pack Identification Guide Mon, 11 June 2012 23:43
Let me know if I got anything incorrect.

http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x334/brdavis3/equipmentID.png

http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x334/brdavis3/equipmentI D.png
      
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Re:Equipment Pack Identification Guide Tue, 12 June 2012 01:01
Looks correct to me - but I am almost legally blind Exclamation Exclamation Exclamation
      
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Re:Equipment Pack Identification Guide Tue, 12 June 2012 03:27
Nice job with the labels! Smile

I see that you didn't try to label any of the Funnies Equipment...maybe you could do that with arrows from the other side. Cool
      
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Re:Equipment Pack Identification Guide Tue, 12 June 2012 17:53
Kelly's Hero,

You are right !

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Re:Equipment Pack Identification Guide Tue, 12 June 2012 19:17
Nice job and thank you.
I'm going to print this and keep as reference.
      
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Re:Equipment Pack Identification Guide Tue, 12 June 2012 22:07
rasmussen81 wrote on Mon, 11 June 2012 19:27


I see that you didn't try to label any of the Funnies Equipment...maybe you could do that with arrows from the other side. Cool


I tried but I'm still not completely certain what each of those things are...

I can identify the bridge builder, but I'm not sure whether the roller-looking thing is the carpet-layer bobbin, or flail chains in action. I don't know what the criss-cross looking thing is either since it has rollers on the bottom.

I also obviously don't know the correct names for these devices Laughing

I'll be glad to update the graphic if someone can tell me for sure what they should be called!

thanks!
      
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Re:Equipment Pack Identification Guide Wed, 13 June 2012 09:34
[quote title=Kelly's Hero wrote on Tue, 12 June 2012 22:07

I can identify the bridge builder, but I'm not sure whether the roller-looking thing is the carpet-layer bobbin, or flail chains in action. I don't know what the criss-cross looking thing is either since it has rollers on the bottom.

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maybe something like this (but this one is a little to big)

http://www.myfantasyweb.com/military/mine_roller.jpg
      
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Re:Equipment Pack Identification Guide Thu, 14 June 2012 10:31
http://wargamers.19.forumer.com/a/posts.php?topic=999&st art=30

This site also give's some info and nice pictures of some accessorizes..
      
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Re:Equipment Pack Identification Guide Thu, 14 June 2012 12:30
Antoi wrote on Thu, 14 June 2012 03:31

http://wargamers.19.forumer.com/a/posts.php?topic=999&st art=30

This site also give's some info and nice pictures of some accessorizes..


Nice! Looking forward to using the figures in future amphibious scenarios!
      
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Re:Equipment Pack Identification Guide Fri, 15 June 2012 00:44
Each of Hobart's funnies seems to be able to function as a:
1) fascine carrier (on each tank shown)
2) bridging unit
3) mat layer with bobbin (note the front bar on the roller)
AND
4) AMRCR with mine-rollers (difficult to find pictures of this one, but a model was made at http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/builds/esci/build_esci_804 9.shtml)

I think this is accurate Rolling Eyes

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Re:Equipment Pack Identification Guide Fri, 15 June 2012 00:53
CptJack wrote on Fri, 15 June 2012 10:44

Each of Hobart's funnies seems to be able to function as a:
1) fascine carrier (on each tank shown)
2) bridging unit
3) mat layer with bobbin (note the front bar on the roller)
AND
4) AMRCR with mine-rollers (difficult to find pictures of this one, but a model was made at http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/builds/esci/build_esci_804 9.shtml)

I think this is accurate Rolling Eyes

Greg


And what new rules for each would you expect?

Fascine - bridge a trench or stream?
Bridging unit - bridge a trench or stream?
Mat Layer - remove 2 hex movement restriction on beach or sand?
AMRCR - remove a mine
Bulldozer breach a hedgerow?
      
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Re:Equipment Pack Identification Guide Sat, 16 June 2012 23:11
Phread wrote on Thu, 14 June 2012 17:53

CptJack wrote on Fri, 15 June 2012 10:44

Each of Hobart's funnies seems to be able to function as a:
1) fascine carrier (on each tank shown)
2) bridging unit
3) mat layer with bobbin (note the front bar on the roller)
AND
4) AMRCR with mine-rollers (difficult to find pictures of this one, but a model was made at http://www.cybermodeler.com/hobby/builds/esci/build_esci_804 9.shtml)

I think this is accurate Rolling Eyes

Greg


And what new rules for each would you expect?

Fascine - bridge a trench or stream?
Bridging unit - bridge a trench or stream?
Mat Layer - remove 2 hex movement restriction on beach or sand?
AMRCR - remove a mine
Bulldozer breach a hedgerow?


And don't forget that 'blow up bunkers with 290 mm shells'
If the 290 only hits at one hex (just speculating). Could be fun attacking/defending against them. Smile
      
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Re:Equipment Pack Identification Guide Sun, 17 June 2012 02:41
One item you are missing is the AVRE with the petard.
I know you don't see it in the DOW image, but trust me I have it from a very reliable source that it is also in the package. Very Happy


http://www.war44.com/misc/images/4/Churchill_Tank.jpg
      
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Re:Equipment Pack Identification Guide Sun, 17 June 2012 07:16
stevens wrote on Sat, 16 June 2012 18:41

One item you are missing is the AVRE with the petard.
I know you don't see it in the DOW image, but trust me I have it from a very reliable source that it is also in the package. Very Happy


http://www.war44.com/misc/images/4/Churchill_Tank.jpg


I'm a bit off-topic, but does anyone know why they made those things with such a short barrel? Isn't a longer barrel always more advantageous? I would think a longer barrel would be more accurate, have greater velocity, etc.
      
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Re:Equipment Pack Identification Guide Sun, 17 June 2012 07:56
Kelly's Hero wrote on Sun, 17 June 2012 07:16

stevens wrote on Sat, 16 June 2012 18:41

One item you are missing is the AVRE with the petard.
I know you don't see it in the DOW image, but trust me I have it from a very reliable source that it is also in the package. Very Happy


http://www.war44.com/misc/images/4/Churchill_Tank.jpg


I'm a bit off-topic, but does anyone know why they made those things with such a short barrel? Isn't a longer barrel always more advantageous? I would think a longer barrel would be more accurate, have greater velocity, etc.


Well i presume if you get home late from work and you have to park it in your garage, its more easy with that short barrel,
even after a drink or 2. Laughing
      
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Re:Equipment Pack Identification Guide Sun, 17 June 2012 16:32
Kelly's Hero écrit le Sun, 17 June 2012 07:16

stevens wrote on Sat, 16 June 2012 18:41

One item you are missing is the AVRE with the petard.
I know you don't see it in the DOW image, but trust me I have it from a very reliable source that it is also in the package. Very Happy


http://www.war44.com/misc/images/4/Churchill_Tank.jpg


I'm a bit off-topic, but does anyone know why they made those things with such a short barrel? Isn't a longer barrel always more advantageous? I would think a longer barrel would be more accurate, have greater velocity, etc.


In fact, this is not really a gun, it's a mortar. You can see the shell on the image on the right and looks like a dustbin, so it was named "Flying dustbin". This mortar was planned to break enemy bunkers on the beach. The crew have to be outside of the tank to load the "flying dustbin" in the mortar.
Smile
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Re:Equipment Pack Identification Guide Sun, 17 June 2012 21:23
jdrommel wrote on Sun, 17 June 2012 08:32

Kelly's Hero écrit le Sun, 17 June 2012 07:16

stevens wrote on Sat, 16 June 2012 18:41

One item you are missing is the AVRE with the petard.
I know you don't see it in the DOW image, but trust me I have it from a very reliable source that it is also in the package. Very Happy


http://www.war44.com/misc/images/4/Churchill_Tank.jpg


I'm a bit off-topic, but does anyone know why they made those things with such a short barrel? Isn't a longer barrel always more advantageous? I would think a longer barrel would be more accurate, have greater velocity, etc.


In fact, this is not really a gun, it's a mortar. You can see the shell on the image on the right and looks like a dustbin, so it was named "Flying dustbin". This mortar was planned to break enemy bunkers on the beach. The crew have to be outside of the tank to load the "flying dustbin" in the mortar.
Smile
Jdrommel.


Thanks for that insight Smile
      
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Re:Equipment Pack Identification Guide Mon, 18 June 2012 01:21
Stevens,

I've been proven wrong before, but if the original post is correct, i.e., "186 plastic figures in total", and if all the Hobart's funnies attachments are included in that number AND if the picture represents what is in the box, then I can't see how (numerically) there are any more figures in the pack. You see, I've counted (and recounted several times) 187 "figures" from the picture. But I really do hope your source is correct! Smile Perhaps that is a surprise bonus beyond the 186 (187?) count.

Greg

[Updated on: Mon, 18 June 2012 01:21]

      
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Re:Equipment Pack Identification Guide Mon, 18 June 2012 04:04
CptJack wrote on Mon, 18 June 2012 03:21

Stevens,

I've been proven wrong before, but if the original post is correct, i.e., "186 plastic figures in total", and if all the Hobart's funnies attachments are included in that number AND if the picture represents what is in the box, then I can't see how (numerically) there are any more figures in the pack. You see, I've counted (and recounted several times) 187 "figures" from the picture. But I really do hope your source is correct! Smile Perhaps that is a surprise bonus beyond the 186 (187?) count.

Greg


If you look back at some of the original posts about the Equipment Pack, you'll find that Antoine, from DoW said that there is a Hobart Funny that destroys bunkers...and looking at the picture, I don't see an attachment that might be able to do that...so there must be some items that aren't included in the image. Cool
      
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Re:Equipment Pack Identification Guide Mon, 18 June 2012 07:59
I've read that too somewhere.
      
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Re:Equipment Pack Identification Guide Mon, 18 June 2012 22:00
rasmussen81 wrote on Mon, 18 June 2012 04:04

CptJack wrote on Mon, 18 June 2012 03:21

Stevens,

I've been proven wrong before, but if the original post is correct, i.e., "186 plastic figures in total", and if all the Hobart's funnies attachments are included in that number AND if the picture represents what is in the box, then I can't see how (numerically) there are any more figures in the pack. You see, I've counted (and recounted several times) 187 "figures" from the picture. But I really do hope your source is correct! Smile Perhaps that is a surprise bonus beyond the 186 (187?) count.

Greg


If you look back at some of the original posts about the Equipment Pack, you'll find that Antoine, from DoW said that there is a Hobart Funny that destroys bunkers...and looking at the picture, I don't see an attachment that might be able to do that...so there must be some items that aren't included in the image. Cool


From the Equipment Pack product page it looks like 1 Hobart AND it's attachments counts as 1 figure towards the 186. That means we can't know how many attachments will be included.
      
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Re:Equipment Pack Identification Guide Tue, 19 June 2012 01:21
ad79 wrote on Mon, 18 June 2012 16:00

rasmussen81 wrote on Mon, 18 June 2012 04:04

CptJack wrote on Mon, 18 June 2012 03:21

Stevens,

I've been proven wrong before, but if the original post is correct, i.e., "186 plastic figures in total", and if all the Hobart's funnies attachments are included in that number AND if the picture represents what is in the box, then I can't see how (numerically) there are any more figures in the pack. You see, I've counted (and recounted several times) 187 "figures" from the picture. But I really do hope your source is correct! Smile Perhaps that is a surprise bonus beyond the 186 (187?) count.

Greg


If you look back at some of the original posts about the Equipment Pack, you'll find that Antoine, from DoW said that there is a Hobart Funny that destroys bunkers...and looking at the picture, I don't see an attachment that might be able to do that...so there must be some items that aren't included in the image. Cool


From the Equipment Pack product page it looks like 1 Hobart AND it's attachments counts as 1 figure towards the 186. That means we can't know how many attachments will be included.


Counting up the figures from the product page shows a total of 174. The three Hobarts attachments I named adds 18 more to push the tally to 192 (I think you're correct, Stig). So, unless DoW enlightens us, we'll just have to wait to learn the difference. In any event, the picture of the arrangement of figures doesn't seem to completely match the description. Hopefully, it means MORE figures as Stevens suggested. Another thought: maybe the Hobart armor IS the AVRE Stevens wrote about.
      
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Re:Equipment Pack Identification Guide Tue, 19 June 2012 01:59
I believe 'Hobarts Funnies' and AVRE (Armoured Vehicle, Royal Engineers) are synonymous.
      
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Re:Equipment Pack Identification Guide Tue, 19 June 2012 02:16
CptJack wrote on Mon, 18 June 2012 19:21

ad79 wrote on Mon, 18 June 2012 16:00

rasmussen81 wrote on Mon, 18 June 2012 04:04

CptJack wrote on Mon, 18 June 2012 03:21

Stevens,

I've been proven wrong before, but if the original post is correct, i.e., "186 plastic figures in total", and if all the Hobart's funnies attachments are included in that number AND if the picture represents what is in the box, then I can't see how (numerically) there are any more figures in the pack. You see, I've counted (and recounted several times) 187 "figures" from the picture. But I really do hope your source is correct! Smile Perhaps that is a surprise bonus beyond the 186 (187?) count.

Greg


If you look back at some of the original posts about the Equipment Pack, you'll find that Antoine, from DoW said that there is a Hobart Funny that destroys bunkers...and looking at the picture, I don't see an attachment that might be able to do that...so there must be some items that aren't included in the image. Cool


From the Equipment Pack product page it looks like 1 Hobart AND it's attachments counts as 1 figure towards the 186. That means we can't know how many attachments will be included.


Counting up the figures from the product page shows a total of 174. The three Hobarts attachments I named adds 18 more to push the tally to 192 (I think you're correct, Stig). So, unless DoW enlightens us, we'll just have to wait to learn the difference. In any event, the picture of the arrangement of figures doesn't seem to completely match the description. Hopefully, it means MORE figures as Stevens suggested. Another thought: maybe the Hobart armor IS the AVRE Stevens wrote about.


BINGO!!!
The (6) AVRE come with at least FIVE different attachments. But not ALL are shown in the image. I gave a hint earlier...
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Re:Equipment Pack Identification Guide Tue, 19 June 2012 02:20
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/Churchill_VII_AVRE_With_Fascine.jpg
      
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Re:Equipment Pack Identification Guide Tue, 19 June 2012 02:22
http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/fileadmin/historyLearningSite/hobart6.gif
      
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Re:Equipment Pack Identification Guide Tue, 19 June 2012 02:24
http://www.timemoneyandblood.com/images/normandy/hobartsFunnies/bobbin.jpg
      
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Re:Equipment Pack Identification Guide Tue, 19 June 2012 14:29
... and maybe a Crocodile? Cool
      
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Re:Equipment Pack Identification Guide Tue, 19 June 2012 19:03
http://i528.photobucket.com/albums/dd323/uriahheep2008/tanks/37.jpg

http://www.war44.com/misc/images/4/Churchill_Tank.jpg

I have given FIVE pictures of the known Attachments.

If there are others... I don't now about them.
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Re:Equipment Pack Identification Guide Tue, 19 June 2012 22:03
stevens wrote on Tue, 19 June 2012 02:24

http://www.timemoneyandblood.com/images/normandy/hobartsFunnies/bobbin.jpg

What is this?

Laundry line?
      
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Re:Equipment Pack Identification Guide Wed, 20 June 2012 00:10
ad79 wrote on Tue, 19 June 2012 14:03

stevens wrote on Tue, 19 June 2012 02:24

http://www.timemoneyandblood.com/images/normandy/hobartsFunnies/bobbin.jpg

What is this?

Laundry line?



see this
      
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Re:Equipment Pack Identification Guide Wed, 20 June 2012 06:54
Kelly's Hero wrote on Wed, 20 June 2012 00:10

ad79 wrote on Tue, 19 June 2012 14:03

stevens wrote on Tue, 19 June 2012 02:24

http://www.timemoneyandblood.com/images/normandy/hobartsFunnies/bobbin.jpg

What is this?

Laundry line?



see this


Thanks for explaining.
      
    
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