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Almilcar
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EP - What units to paint? Mon, 08 October 2012 19:31
Hello guys,

I need some advice about what minis to paint or not from the EP.

Apart of those that represent Minor Nations, what other units would you paint?

What about 88 arty minis? Are they often used for both sides?

Thanks in advance.
      
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Re:EP - What units to paint? Mon, 08 October 2012 23:23
I've been thinking about this too. Problems arise in cases where DOW provided a specific Allied or Axis unit to represent the type of unit for both sides, such as the Mobile Artillery, which was implemented as the Priest, an allied vehicle, used as both Allied and Axis unit in the Operation Epsom scenario. Problematic are also big guns and tank destroyers.

If you paint half Allied (green) and half Axis (grey) you end up with 3 units each. Not useful when arty units are two figures. You could paint them all Allied color and then use badges for Axis mobile arty or just leave them unpainted.

The mortars, machine guns and anti-tank weapons I would paint neutral colors (not favoring axis or allies).

I would paint the Tigers (axis), Trucks (allied), Half-tracks (axis), Hobarts (allied), Nebelwerfers (axis), Command Cars (axis) and jeeps (allied).

The other dilemma I have is how many to paint in desert versus "countryside" versus winter colors.
      
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Re:EP - What units to paint? Tue, 09 October 2012 03:48
Paint them all - it's more fun.
      
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Re:EP - What units to paint? Tue, 09 October 2012 16:12
Sgt Storm wrote on Mon, 08 October 2012 23:23

I've been thinking about this too. Problems arise in cases where DOW provided a specific Allied or Axis unit to represent the type of unit for both sides, such as the Mobile Artillery, which was implemented as the Priest, an allied vehicle, used as both Allied and Axis unit in the Operation Epsom scenario. Problematic are also big guns and tank destroyers.

If you paint half Allied (green) and half Axis (grey) you end up with 3 units each. Not useful when arty units are two figures. You could paint them all Allied color and then use badges for Axis mobile arty or just leave them unpainted.

The mortars, machine guns and anti-tank weapons I would paint neutral colors (not favoring axis or allies).




We're thinking about the "neutral" color to use with those units you've mentioned.

Looking at The Army Painter Catalog, trying to decide with one to choose.

Thanks for your comments.

[Updated on: Tue, 09 October 2012 16:12]

      
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Re:EP - What units to paint? Wed, 10 October 2012 18:59
I'm with Stevens -- it's more fun to paint them all. I put some ideas (with pics) in this thread. http://www.daysofwonder.com/en/msg/?th=25985&start=0

I went nation-specific on most pieces, but they're pretty interchangeable really.

I painted the snipers, for example, in a range of colors representing different environments (desert to jungle to urban to snow...although I admit the overcoat looks a bit silly on the desert one...maybe it gets cold in the desert at night?) that are basically nationality neutral.

If anything, I'd say I did more mixing up by environment -- Tigers in Panzer gray as well as a desert camo, same for kubels and halftracks.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-3pD2rnCQ4hc/UElgW8CLVSI/AAAAAAAABdg/c2OHrKVoNEE/s800/20120906_205804.jpg


And for the eastern front:



https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-lNSQ0Yk3iSI/UElgaol9NhI/AAAAAAAABfA/ai8aDlvcHFw/s800/20120906_210908.jpg

Hope that helps!
      
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Re:EP - What units to paint? Wed, 10 October 2012 20:59
Old B&G,
I appreciate your ideas. Since I haven't painted my snipers yet, I will do as you did and mix and match for Terrain. Again - Great idea!

I like how you added the snow and the rocks as well.

[Updated on: Wed, 10 October 2012 21:00]

      
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Re:EP - What units to paint? Wed, 10 October 2012 21:18
OldBloodandGuts wrote on Wed, 10 October 2012 18:59

although I admit the overcoat looks a bit silly on the desert one...maybe it gets cold in the desert at night?)



I was in Egypt years ago and we went into the desert to watch the sunrise. 5 degrees celsius before the sun came up, 40 minutes later it was 25 degrees. This was in January, so I would have prefered to have an overcoat available atleast.

Well painted snipers.

      
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Re:EP - What units to paint? Thu, 11 October 2012 15:45
stevens wrote on Wed, 10 October 2012 19:59


I like how you added the snow and the rocks as well.


How did you paint the snow? Rolling Eyes
      
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Re:EP - What units to paint? Thu, 11 October 2012 16:09
Achtung Panzer wrote on Thu, 11 October 2012 09:45



How did you paint the snow? Rolling Eyes


Paint the base a medium gray. Give it a black (or very dark gray) wash -- this adds depth to the creases and "deep" spots. Then dry brush with an off-white (I think I used a color called "bleached sand"). This gives more dimension and detail to the raised terrain, and you can really sort of see it in the brick work the sniper is hiding behind. Finally, coat with a thin layer of Elmer's glue and apply modeling snow to the places you want snow - I did the ground but not the bricks (I used Games Workshop's modeling snow, but other products are just as good).

Sounds like a lot of steps, but it really doesn't take long at all. Just be sure to let your wash dry completely before dry-brushing.

That technique works for all winter bases (if you check the original thread, I think I have a winter mortar and MG posted...if not I can post them in this thread if people want to see). For infantry bases, you can skip the washing and dry-brushing and just paint the base in a light gray or off-white before adding the modeling snow. I did half of my Russian troops like that and all of my Finns from the EP.
      
    
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