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Re:Nygaard's Expert Scenario of the Week Thu, 08 September 2011 14:21
Retreat for Shanghai is a masterpiece!

Great fun to play and usually close although it favors the Nips.

Recommend you never split words in future, because the correcly named Mufu Line becomes Line Mufu if you are Japanese Wink

To have it more historical you might in future limit Chinese infantry to 3 units and just have more instead Smile

As always your missions are good fun to play!
      
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Re:Nygaard's Expert Scenario of the Week Thu, 08 September 2011 17:22
Thanks for the feedback. I've fixed the "Wufu Line - Line Wufu" problem - thanks for catching that Jokull.

I've been thinking a lot about how to represent the Chinese in a fun way. Limiting them to only 3 figs per unit (that's what you are thinking, right?) might be an option - it's simple and easy to use. But it's an even bigger disadvantage against "4dice-in-Close" Japanese Infantry than for the French resistance against ze Germans. Hm... Will need to think about that one.
      
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Re:Nygaard's Expert Scenario of the Week Thu, 08 September 2011 21:04
Nygaard wrote on Mon, 08 August 2011 23:32

So far I've found the following things that doesn't work

- Railroads + RR bridges
- Cruisers
- Machine Guns & Mortars
- Cemetary (guess the dead don't want visitors staying too long)
- Mountains
- Landing Crafts
- Japanese Engineers (should have the Nations 3 effect)
- Japanese Elite units (works only as normal Japanese)
- Mines (they explode for both sides)
- Empty bunkers (they don't grant protection for any sides, no matter how you turn them)
- 88mm Guns
- Depleted Units (while you can make units with less figures you can't make them worth 0 medals.
- Fordable Rivers
- Fordable Streams
- Placing artillery or armor in Fortresses is possible - but they can retreat out - which shouldn't be.
- Roads on Hills (they just work like roads - no blocking line of sight.
- Exit markers for the reversed side (I've got a few maps where the exit markers are on the "near side" of the map - to simulate fighting withdrawals - but that's not possible).
- Any and all special victory contidions (sudden death, permanent medals, majority medals, etc.).
- Any and all special actions (smoke screen, night attack, blitz rules, etc.)

That's what I can think off right now.
I'm sure there's more...


- 2 hexes of lake does not block line of sight.
      
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Re:Nygaard's Expert Scenario of the Week Fri, 09 September 2011 00:21
Hi MAgnus:

Without a doubt Retreat from Shanghai is your best scenario yet! I enjoyed playing it solo and look forward to playing you . Great map and well thought out! Very Happy

Extremely difficult for the Chinese in this one. Need great cards and must escape some units quickly. Cool

Well done! Looking forward to our next battle! Very Happy

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Re:Nygaard's Expert Scenario of the Week Fri, 09 September 2011 10:24
SgtBob49 wrote on Fri, 09 September 2011 00:21

Hi MAgnus:

Without a doubt Retreat from Shanghai is your best scenario yet! I enjoyed playing it solo and look forward to playing you . Great map and well thought out! Very Happy

Extremely difficult for the Chinese in this one. Need great cards and must escape some units quickly. Cool

Well done! Looking forward to our next battle! Very Happy

Bob


High praise, thanks!
I'm really happy about how "Retreat" turned out. And yeah - the Chinese need to exit at least a couple of units to win is my experience, unless they get extremely lucky dice from early on.

I'd love to promise that the next one will be just as good - but I'm running out of scenarios that will work with the current Expert mode. I really need railroads, fordable rivers, and mountains...

Hope to cross you soon, Bob - it's always a pleasure to play against you.

Btw. I'll be off-line the whole next week - I'm on a field trip with 60 kids and 10 parents (this will be my Arnhem scenario...) so I might be a little slow in replying here.

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Re:Nygaard's Expert Scenario of the Week Sun, 25 September 2011 18:24
This is the last of my scenarios that will work with the Expert as it is now.

It should be short and bloody: Delaying Action

Let me know what you think,
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Re:Nygaard's Expert Scenario of the Week Tue, 27 September 2011 05:02
I liked it,

played both sides and gave you 3 stars

pity the editor isn't up to standards just yet.

I ordered the book

History of the Sino-Japanese war (1937-1945)
Hsu Long-hsuen, Chang Ming-kai

Second hand (since it is out of print) but was kind of hoping you would do the battle of Wuhan Smile

I have an adopted daughter from China, Kristín - formerly Xue Fu Shuang and she comes from Hubei province. So I have been in Wuhan.

Your scenarios are very well done and it has been a pleasure to play them.

If you see me on the board, invite me to your scenarios (rather than SFTF), you only pay 2 gold then and it would be an honour to meet you there.

Xiè-xiè

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Re:Nygaard's Expert Scenario of the Week Tue, 27 September 2011 09:27
The Battle of Wuhan is next on my list. I've already got a good deal of scenarios leading up to it, as the Japanese fought their way up the Yangtze in early 1938. But it's such a huge battle - that doing only one "battle of Wuhan" scenario would be a shame, IMO.

But as you will see when you get the History of the Sino-Japanese War there's A LOT of material to work with - and a lot of possible campaigns, not to mention scenarios. The main problem with the book is that there's no topography on the maps (they are all hand drawn) so often the biggest problem is trying to reconstruct the look and layout of the battlefields.

And yeah - I always try to invite people from the "My Scenarios" list.

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Re:Nygaard's Expert Scenario of the Week Sun, 09 October 2011 16:32
I just realized I could use Escarpments instead of mountains to represent the Great Wall in this scenario.
Nankou and Chuyung Pass is from early in the Japanese invasion of China, right after the fall of Beijing (remember Nanking was the Nationalis capital).

Let me know what you think.

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Re:Nygaard's Expert Scenario of the Week Sun, 23 October 2011 09:44
Linyi is now back online. I'll cycle through the old scenarios over the next couple of weeks.
I'm now waiting for the next update for the Expert mode to do the next couple of scenarios (fordable rivers and machine guns, guys, plz).

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Re:Nygaard's Expert Scenario of the Week Sun, 06 November 2011 11:54
Huang Mei-hsing's Last Charge is now online as I cycle through my old scenarios, waiting for Expert updates.

Don't get scarred about all the terrain Smile

Good luck,
Magnus
      
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Re:Nygaard's Expert Scenario of the Week Sun, 06 November 2011 12:36
Great !! I'll try it this afternoon after playing gallabat and metemma. Is there any chance of including Nygaard's Chinese missions among standard ones ? They deserve to be treated like classic ones. In addition to that, i feel a strong fascination about them, like being part of Terry and the pirates and running the risk of meeting marlene dietrich on a train to Shanghai.
      
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Re:Nygaard's Expert Scenario of the Week Wed, 16 November 2011 08:40
Smile Thanks for the vote of confidence, Vekkiller! I actually think there are quite a few awesome maps in SFTF besides my own that would merit an "upgrade" to official scenarios.

If I recall correctly someone suggested a "map of the month" competition - that would be a great way for DoW to have people constantly adding to the maps available, if you ask me.

Of course there might be some business reasons they are not posting other maps than Richard's. JdRommel has made a few that would qualify one should think...

While waiting for the next update for the Expert features, here's Chiangyin Fortress. For those of you who have played it before - I've strengthened the Chinese slightly by giving them an additional piece of artillery. I don't believe it's a 10/90 map. More like 30/70 or perhaps 25/75 at worst.

Good gaming,
Magnus

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Re:Nygaard's Expert Scenario of the Week Wed, 16 November 2011 19:05
Nygard just played Chiangyin Fortress and noticed that the Japanese Engineers do not follow the "Yamato Damashi Concept" is this a bug?
      
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Re:Nygaard's Expert Scenario of the Week Wed, 16 November 2011 23:35
I noticed that mountains tiles don't block line of sight and are like open terrain to armor

besides that, another excellent scenario. I won with the chinese, thanks to my opponent, who tried unrealistically to annihilate only my left flank artillery for several turns and so gave me time to slaughter jap infantry at long range. Then as he finally succedeed to eliminate my left art and was going to utterly destroy my left flank, i counterattacked center to right with two consecutive inf assaults and won the day. unpredictable result.

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Re:Nygaard's Expert Scenario of the Week Thu, 17 November 2011 10:30
sdnative wrote on Wed, 16 November 2011 19:05

Nygard just played Chiangyin Fortress and noticed that the Japanese Engineers do not follow the "Yamato Damashi Concept" is this a bug?


I think it's a bug - I think the Yamato Damashi should work for all Japanese INFANTRY - whether they are specialists or not. The Japanese Sniper in Retreat From Shanghai didn't follow it either.
It would make the Japanese Engineers awefully powerful, though Smile
      
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Re:Nygaard's Expert Scenario of the Week Thu, 17 November 2011 10:36
Vekkiller wrote on Wed, 16 November 2011 23:35

I noticed that mountains tiles don't block line of sight and are like open terrain to armor

besides that, another excellent scenario. I won with the chinese, thanks to my opponent, who tried unrealistically to annihilate only my left flank artillery for several turns and so gave me time to slaughter jap infantry at long range. Then as he finally succedeed to eliminate my left art and was going to utterly destroy my left flank, i counterattacked center to right with two consecutive inf assaults and won the day. unpredictable result.

thank you again


Yep - the mountains are a bug - I'll change them to Escarpments for the time being until they get Mountains up and working.

And yeah - like I said this map CAN be won by the Chinese Smile Thanks for playing.

      
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Re:Nygaard's Expert Scenario of the Week Sun, 20 November 2011 18:35
I've put Battle for Luodian online for the next week. If you want to learn how to play in Jungles this is a perfect map Smile
I hope you like it.

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Re:Nygaard's Expert Scenario of the Week Mon, 21 November 2011 20:21
Great !! I'll try it as soon as possible.

I wonder if the Elimination tournament could be played only with scenarios from the chinese campaign. My humble vote is for this solution.
      
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Re:Nygaard's Expert Scenario of the Week Sat, 26 November 2011 03:19
I enjoyed playing Luodian, Magnus, with Col. JRyan. So many things went right for me as the Chinese -- shot 68% on infantry -- but could not hold on to win that side. The four-strong Japanese armor are beastly strong.

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Re:Nygaard's Expert Scenario of the Week Sat, 26 November 2011 11:38
Henry Pelham wrote on Sat, 26 November 2011 03:19

I enjoyed playing Luodian, Magnus, with Col. JRyan. So many things went right for me as the Chinese -- shot 68% on infantry -- but could not hold on to win that side. The four-strong Japanese armor are beastly strong.


Well - often the Japanese player overestimate the strength of their armor (4figs look so strong vs. mostly infantry and "light" artillery, but they aren't worth much in the jungles and towns). But a clever player will wait with his armor until late in the game and then launch them when the Chinese units are weakened.

It's still a pretty skewed map to the Japanese side, for sure - but I actually like to play the Chinese a lot; they have to play a very careful game to win.

Thanks for playing,
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Re:Nygaard's Expert Scenario of the Week Sat, 26 November 2011 17:42
Magnus,

Helcat and I played your scenario with the Japanese winning both times. I loved fighting tooth and nail with the Chinese and had a chance but the dice at the end were unkind. Maybe take out one of those Japanese artilleries to slightly help the Chinese side?
It was still a lot of fun either way. Thanks for sharing.

LooneyLlama(Eric)
      
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Re:Nygaard's Expert Scenario of the Week Sat, 26 November 2011 17:56
tinsoldier wrote on Thu, 08 September 2011 06:59

Played Retreat from Shanghai yesterday. Great scenario. Even if I lost twice ... 30% hit rate with the Japanese.

I think I wasted too much dice to try to kill the Chinese Arty. The thing is that my opponent had killed one of my Arty during the first game with a single shot from the sniper ! I was trying to get a revenge. Very ineffectively ...

Thks Magnus

Motivation by REVENGE makes us do stupid stuff... Shocked
      
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Re:Nygaard's Expert Scenario of the Week Sat, 26 November 2011 18:04
The 4 figure units are tough to take down if the Chinese keep their infantry under cover and roll only one or two dice per attack. As long as the Japanese keep them away from close assault, they can trade dice to advantage, especially since flags on Chinese infantry can be disastrous if another Japanese armor is poised to attack the flushed unit.

I also enjoyed playing the Chinese. It is a very good scenario Magnus, even if one side is much tougher than the other.
      
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Re:Nygaard's Expert Scenario of the Week Sun, 27 November 2011 15:20
Invasion of Amoy still waiting for the Expert update to launch new maps, so while we wait, here's another old one. It was supposed to be very hard for the Chinese - but they actually seem to have a fairly good chance of winning...
As with Luodian, using the terrain is vital for the Chinese.

LooneyLlama wrote on Sat, 26 November 2011 17:42

Magnus,

Helcat and I played your scenario (Luodian) with the Japanese winning both times. I loved fighting tooth and nail with the Chinese and had a chance but the dice at the end were unkind. Maybe take out one of those Japanese artilleries to slightly help the Chinese side?
It was still a lot of fun either way. Thanks for sharing.

LooneyLlama(Eric)


Yeah - I have considered removing 1 of the Japanese guns (or armor) - but I WANT the Chinese to be the underdogs facing unfair odds. And as long as they do have a fair chance to win every now and again (25/75 is about my "pain limit") I'll leave it be.
If my goal was a completely 50-50 map you would be right I think.

Thanks again for playing,
Magnus
      
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Re:Nygaard's Expert Scenario of the Week Wed, 30 November 2011 21:49
Big fan of Invasion of Amoy.
      
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Re:Nygaard's Expert Scenario of the Week Sun, 04 December 2011 11:12
I'm going to change the scenarios a bit haphazardly over the next couple of weeks, currently Linyi is back online.
      
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Re:Nygaard's Expert Scenario of the Week Sat, 14 January 2012 18:39
After a long hiatus - I'm back with a new map.

This one is called Assault on Antsin and is part of the 1938 Yangtze river offensive of the Japanese army, chasing the Chinese further and further up the river.
The Japanese used both air superiority and chemical weapons to break the defenders.

Let me know what you think. And please let me know if you have any bugs/expert issues as well, so I can post them on the Editor wiki.

Magnus

NOTE: I haven't been able to get the Temporary Majority Medal to work - but I'll keep trying. I'm sure it's possible. The Chinese need to move 1 unit into Antsin to get it, and currently both sides can have the medal at the same time??!?
      
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Re:Nygaard's Expert Scenario of the Week Mon, 16 January 2012 18:05
Hi Magnus:

Another great scenario. Cool I played it solo as the Japanese. I had a barrage card and when I tried to play it I could only select Japanese and not Chinese units. This and the temporary medal which you mentioned did not work until you moved into Astin were the only bugs. The Night Counter was on 2 when I tried to play the barrage card, but I do not think that has any effect on playing it. I did not encounter any other bugs.

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Re:Nygaard's Expert Scenario of the Week Mon, 16 January 2012 18:10
SgtBob49 wrote on Mon, 16 January 2012 18:05

(snip) The Night Counter was on 2 when I tried to play the barrage card, but I do not think that has any effect on playing it. I did not encounter any other bugs.

Bob


Thanks for the feedback - it's always appreciated!

That's the way Night Fight rules should work. Until day-time Barrage and Air Power can only be used to activate one of your own units.
But like I've mentioned, using the Blitz ability, the Japanese are actual able to use air-power, which is a bug.

Magnus

      
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Re:Nygaard's Expert Scenario of the Week Sat, 21 January 2012 13:09
Lugou Bridge Incident (aka Marco Polo Bridge incident) is now online - this time with a fordable river and a Sudden Death victory condition for the allies (I hope - I haven't been able to get Johnny not to attack me for long enough to find out).
Hope you enjoy - and let me know if there's any bugs.
      
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Re:Nygaard's Expert Scenario of the Week Sun, 22 January 2012 10:29
(Double post)

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Re:Nygaard's Expert Scenario of the Week Sun, 22 January 2012 10:48
Nygaard wrote on Sat, 21 January 2012 13:09

Lugou Bridge Incident (aka Marco Polo Bridge incident) is now online - this time with a fordable river and a Sudden Death victory condition for the allies (I hope - I haven't been able to get Johnny not to attack me for long enough to find out).
Hope you enjoy - and let me know if there's any bugs.


OK - there seems to be a problem with the sudden death victory condition - so I've removed the option again... Damn.

I really hoped it would work, but no.

And I'm not sure how to verify the victory conditions - but for the moment I've left them normal again (i.e. deck reshuffle at Their finest hour, 6 medals).

EDIT: I tried to play with the "no reshuffle" feature on - and it seems that freezes Johnny when you get to a point where there's not enough cards in the deck to draw a new one.

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Re:Nygaard's Expert Scenario of the Week Sun, 22 January 2012 12:08
Nygaard wrote on Sun, 22 January 2012 13:48

Nygaard wrote on Sat, 21 January 2012 13:09

Lugou Bridge Incident (aka Marco Polo Bridge incident) is now online - this time with a fordable river and a Sudden Death victory condition for the allies (I hope - I haven't been able to get Johnny not to attack me for long enough to find out).
Hope you enjoy - and let me know if there's any bugs.


OK - there seems to be a problem with the sudden death victory condition - so I've removed the option again... Damn.

I really hoped it would work, but no.

And I'm not sure how to verify the victory conditions - but for the moment I've left them normal again (i.e. deck reshuffle at Their finest hour, 6 medals).

EDIT: I tried to play with the "no reshuffle" feature on - and it seems that freezes Johnny when you get to a point where there's not enough cards in the deck to draw a new one.


I hope you've sent in Bug Reports to the crew so they know to keep working on these features! Also, please watch any language... Razz Thanks!
      
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Re:Nygaard's Expert Scenario of the Week Sun, 22 January 2012 12:38
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Nygaard wrote on Sun, 22 January 2012 13:48

(snip).


I hope you've sent in Bug Reports to the crew so they know to keep working on these features! Also, please watch any language... Razz Thanks!


I have now, thanks (that signature link is pretty practical).

What language should I watch? English? Is "damn" a 4-letter word... Oh...
Well, "zut"! There, better?


I've realized that the game is now stuck in "Sudden Death" mode -so you can't win by getting the medals needed... I'm taking it down from SFTF until I can work it out.

Magnus
      
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Re:Nygaard's Expert Scenario of the Week Sun, 22 January 2012 13:00
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What language should I watch? English? Is "damn" a 4-letter word... Oh...
Well, "zut"! There, better?


"Any language" would be swearing in any language...we've talked about how this is a family-friendly forum and swearing in any language tends to make it less family-friendly! Rolling Eyes Very Happy

The point isn't the language chosen, it's more the words used in the language. Laughing
      
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Re:Nygaard's Expert Scenario of the Week Sun, 08 April 2012 10:48
Woohoo - the "Battle for Luodian" tournament is over - congratulations to Quit2 for his victory, and thanks to Henry Pelham for using my map. (The next tournament is getting organized over at the BGG Memoir44 guild - go check it out guys).

And I can now finally launch my next map, Hueishan Docks - another map from the early parts of the Battle of Shanghai - where the Chinese still hoped they could clear out the Japanese forces present before the reinforcement arrived from the home islands.

The Chinese have the Marines' "Gung Ho" ability, but only 4 cards - making them hard hitting - but they can't plan long ahead.

Both sides have strong forces, but all of them are poorly placed, so both sides need to maneuver a lot to win.

So far the map has been pretty even - with the Japanese having a slight advantage.

Please leave comments and ratings!

See you on the battlefield,
Magnus
      
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Re:Nygaard's Expert Scenario of the Week Wed, 17 October 2012 14:37
Just found and finished an old map I had lying around.

This is from the so called "Halbe Kessel" south of Berlin in 1945. The Germans try to break through to Berlin, but despite several attempts, never come close. These attacks do however let several thousands of soldiers escape to American held territory rather than fall into Soviet hands.

Halbe Pocket 1st Breakthrough Attempt
      
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