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  superamsel at it again Mon, 25 June 2007 08:58
...another 16:1 series against Ritter Armin (currently No.13) in the last 15 days - and now we have new number 1 in Swiss map -
SUPERAMSEL (player id 268463)

I just don't understand one thing - why 16:1, not 17:0 ????? Rolling Eyes

Just look at this sequence and the sort of "pounding" Ritter (himself top 20 Swiss player) gets from superamsel:

06/25/2007 superamsel 216 Ritter Armin 90
06/25/2007 superamsel 192 Ritter Armin 85
06/25/2007 superamsel 179 Ritter Armin 99
06/24/2007 superamsel 157 Ritter Armin 86
06/24/2007 superamsel 146 Ritter Armin 67
06/24/2007 superamsel 164 Ritter Armin 80
06/23/2007 superamsel 90 Ritter Armin 99 ??? this one is strange...
06/22/2007 superamsel 178 Ritter Armin 85
06/22/2007 superamsel 123 Ritter Armin 103
06/22/2007 superamsel 166 Ritter Armin 95
06/22/2007 superamsel 185 Ritter Armin 101
06/10/2007 superamsel 170 Ritter Armin 88
06/10/2007 superamsel 188 Ritter Armin 86
06/10/2007 superamsel 195 Ritter Armin 91
06/10/2007 superamsel 215 Ritter Armin 117
06/10/2007 superamsel 183 Ritter Armin 119
06/10/2007 superamsel 146 Ritter Armin 132

I know that games on 6/25 were played closed - tried to look at what was going on, but, naturally, it was not possible. Can't believe it can be for real - even taking into account the one lost game on 6/23. And this is not the first such series between these 2 players: grand total is 29:1 (in 2007 stats there are 16 more wins against Ritter Armin, and no lost games for superamsel). Another somewhat strange series played earlier against player Ritter Rost - total score is 19:3, but this time on USA map.

Grats everybody with a cheater as a new No.1 player... Evil or Very Mad

Dandy

[Updated on: Tue, 26 June 2007 03:16]

      
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Re:superamsel at it again Wed, 01 August 2007 19:57
superamsel is back as No.1 on Swiss map, and the same cheating still goes on unabated.

In the last 15 days superamsel played 16 games, and 5 of them were against Ritter Armin, who is now number 4 in Swiss map. Ritter Armin is the only high-ranked player amongst other superamsel opponents, but he got his usual pounding - 5:0, propping superamsel to the top of the Swiss list:

07/29/2007 superamsel 112 Ritter Armin 57
07/29/2007 superamsel 174 Ritter Armin 92
07/29/2007 superamsel 130 Ritter Armin 78
07/29/2007 superamsel 175 Ritter Armin 128
07/29/2007 superamsel 138 Ritter Armin 54

Sad, sad story...

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Re:superamsel at it again Fri, 10 August 2007 02:48
So let's wait for the next 5+ games superamsel - Ritter Armin - x:0 ? Twisted Evil Twisted Evil Twisted Evil
      
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Re:superamsel at it again Mon, 20 August 2007 23:13
yeah, you're really right, sauvignon. Look here:


19.08.2007 superamsel 179 Ritter Armin 97
19.08.2007 superamsel 165 Ritter Armin 141
19.08.2007 superamsel 107 Ritter Armin 42)
18.08.2007 superamsel 171 Ritter Armin 113

Maybe, in 25 games (25 games against Ritter Armin with an ELO winning of 4 points per game = + 100 points = more than 1800 points overall Confused Confused ) he will be the new Nr. 1 in the overall ranking. Shocked Evil or Very Mad
      
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Re:superamsel at it again Tue, 21 August 2007 00:30
For anyone who hasn't figured it out, this is our old buddy Nando. Get a life loser, you get caught all the time and then you get frozen, I can't imagine what a pathetic life you must have to resort to this.

So you wonder how does thekid know it's Nando? Go check his old ID and you see he started playing a lot of swiss and was pretty good at it. But he can't seem to stay away from unrated games against certain players.

      
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Re:superamsel at it again Sat, 15 September 2007 20:41
Today I was in the lobby and what did I see:

2 Matches amsel gegen ritter - and how did they end ?

2:0 for superamsel - both games were closed.

Total rate super"cheater" vs Ritter Armin : 35 : 1

But what is also funny: 12 (only) unrated (!) games against Weisse Wölfin - result 9:3

I wonder why Ritter Armin is participating in such crazy activity - if it is not the same person ?
      
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Re:superamsel at it again Tue, 30 October 2007 00:25
Hi

40:1 vs. Ritter Armin now.

Ritter Armin is placed THIRD in switz directly behind him and has not won a game for months!

EDIT: I heard from reliable source that this is NOT Nando! All arguments stay the same but without the Nando-references!

THIS IS CHEATING and i have enough from you [, NANDO. Leave this game forever! We don't want you! Nobody. It is time for DOW to cancel your account forever.] There are a lot of other guests and second accounts he is also playing to pump up his score. Please DOW check the registration Emails, 100% that they are similar and lead to the same person.

This behaviour is going for months now [and after how many warnings he is finally banned?] If he is reaching the number one spot this game has no more value for me.

bye, erps

[Updated on: Tue, 30 October 2007 12:32]

      
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Re:superamsel at it again Tue, 30 October 2007 18:07
superamsel isn't nando. superamsel was at the game fair in essen and he doesn't look like nando in 2006.

but i agree with u, that this "game" from superamsel can't go on in this way. i can't understand this, because he was and is part of the community (for me since the fair in essen - i was very surprised to see him there) and i think he knows that such topic about him is existing in the competetive forum ...

so, superamsel, what are u doing there? explain yourself ... maybe there are missunderstandings ...

cu, chris

[Updated on: Tue, 30 October 2007 18:09]

      
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Re:superamsel at it again Tue, 16 October 2012 18:03
I thought it would be good to get this thread up again, as superamsel has reached the nr. 1 position quite recently and is now lurking at 1800+ playing only newbs in Swiss in low frequency to please himself with his rank.

Back in the day, he loved to beat his second account Ritter Armin 40-1.

Similarly, I think recently tufftuff got banned (he has a * in front of his name now) for playing his second account Graue Eminenz and reaching nr. 1 in Europe after 27.000 games, never before coming close.
      
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Re:superamsel at it again Tue, 16 October 2012 20:02
What's more annoying is that some guys like tufftuff keep denying the obvious... not even able to make a clear statement about their several accounts...

Would gain a bit of respect by doing so...

1)
You want to use several accounts to preserve your score or for whatever reason ? Fine, then be clear about it. Not in my book but still better than 2)

2)
You want to be shady and keep being in denial ? Fine, then you suck and raise suspicion !

[Updated on: Tue, 16 October 2012 20:03]

      
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Re:superamsel at it again Tue, 16 October 2012 22:56
As Long as he's not playing the same person over and over, I don't see a problem.

If you think you can win 100 games in a row in Swiss against low ranked people, go ahead and try.

I've never got close to number 1 this way. The highest I ever got was winning a couple USA 5er in a row against tops. That's the easiest way to get up in ranking now adays (with no one blocking!!)

      
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Re:superamsel at it again Tue, 16 October 2012 23:14
Talking to tüfftüff and Graue Eminenz they claim they are brothers... and are fed up with being called cheaters, since they are not - this is what they told me.
As a matter of fact their behavior is different - one is the talkative, the other one barely speaks. I trust them when they say they are 2.

...and guys...this is a GAME!

If someone feels great cheating, so what. We can just laugh about it.

And we all know superamsel is not a good player. Refusing to play good players says it all - doesn't it?

EDIT:...I agree to what Miguel posted below, but 1100+ is tough...make it 1250 + Wink

[Updated on: Tue, 16 October 2012 23:19]

      
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Re:superamsel at it again Tue, 16 October 2012 23:15
i disagree Drake.

i dont think its fair to select your opp.

He opens games available to anyone, if i (or any user that knows a bit swiss) enter he refuses to play.
even when he plays +1100 overall rank he sometimes refuses (if they for some reason have a better rank or the slightest experience playing Swiss)...

if this is the best way of being rank 1 in swiss, i rather not be rank 1, and i wont think this sort of behavior is fair @ all.

p.s i'll take the challenge as soon as i have a bit of time to play Swiss vs +1100 (in Swiss) in a row. just for the challenge Smile



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Re:superamsel at it again Wed, 17 October 2012 00:24
1. Tufftuff has been banned, his account has a *
2. Sysyphus an I tell you how it is.
3. Why do you trust tufftuff and Graue more than me and Sysyphus ?
4. http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/69/graueeminenzbild.png /
5. http://www.daysofwonder.com/en/msg/?goto=166508#msg_166508

Why, womble, do you post here without knowing anything ?
Check tufftuf and Graue's history against one-another and tell me what's to be trusted about it ?

womble wrote on Tue, 16 October 2012 23:14

Talking to tüfftüff and Graue Eminenz they claim they are brothers... and are fed up with being called cheaters, since they are not - this is what they told me.
As a matter of fact their behavior is different - one is the talkative, the other one barely speaks. I trust them when they say they are 2.

...and guys...this is a GAME!

If someone feels great cheating, so what. We can just laugh about it.

And we all know superamsel is not a good player. Refusing to play good players says it all - doesn't it?

EDIT:...I agree to what Miguel posted below, but 1100+ is tough...make it 1250 + Wink

[Updated on: Wed, 17 October 2012 11:05]

      
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Re:superamsel at it again Wed, 17 October 2012 00:43
Drake AMD wrote on Tue, 16 October 2012 22:56

As Long as he's not playing the same person over and over, I don't see a problem.

If you think you can win 100 games in a row in Swiss against low ranked people, go ahead and try.

I've never got close to number 1 this way. The highest I ever got was winning a couple USA 5er in a row against tops. That's the easiest way to get up in ranking now adays (with no one blocking!!)




The guy beat his second account 40-1, what is your point ?
      
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Re:superamsel at it again Wed, 17 October 2012 02:58
SOS Truckerteller wrote on Tue, 16 October 2012 15:43



The guy beat his second account 40-1, what is your point ?



My point is playing low rated players to get to the number 1 spot is a legitimate method.

Playing the same person over and over is not, even if it isn't your own account.

I could easily beat my boardgaming friends 40 times in a row if they made a DoW Account since they have only played TTR a few times (especially in Swiss). So it doesn't really matter if its the same person with 2 accounts or 2 different people.
      
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Re:superamsel at it again Wed, 17 October 2012 09:38
Drake AMD écrit le Wed, 17 October 2012 02:58

My point is playing low rated players to get to the number 1 spot is a legitimate method.



My point is refusing playing good players isn't a legitimate method to be legitimate number one.
      
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Re:superamsel at it again Thu, 18 October 2012 23:19
Knockando - Apremont wrote on Wed, 17 October 2012 08:38

Drake AMD écrit le Wed, 17 October 2012 02:58

My point is playing low rated players to get to the number 1 spot is a legitimate method.



My point is refusing playing good players isn't a legitimate method to be legitimate number one.


but is refusing to play lower ranked players a more legitimate way?
      
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D.I.S. is a man of few words (well, sometimes...) Thu, 18 October 2012 23:31
SNS Stephan1972-Octopussy wrote on Thu, 18 October 2012 23:19

Knockando - Apremont wrote on Wed, 17 October 2012 08:38

Drake AMD écrit le Wed, 17 October 2012 02:58

My point is playing low rated players to get to the number 1 spot is a legitimate method.



My point is refusing playing good players isn't a legitimate method to be legitimate number one.


but is refusing to play lower ranked players a more legitimate way?



Touché.

D.I.S.

      
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Re:D.I.S. is a man of few words (well, sometimes...) Thu, 18 October 2012 23:57
picking opp!

Double touche?
      
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Re:D.I.S. is a man of few words (well, sometimes...) Thu, 18 October 2012 23:57
picking nose?
      
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Re:superamsel at it again Fri, 19 October 2012 07:05
SNS Stephan1972-Octopussy écrit le Thu, 18 October 2012 23:19

Knockando - Apremont wrote on Wed, 17 October 2012 08:38

Drake AMD écrit le Wed, 17 October 2012 02:58

My point is playing low rated players to get to the number 1 spot is a legitimate method.



My point is refusing playing good players isn't a legitimate method to be legitimate number one.


but is refusing to play lower ranked players a more legitimate way?


Playing too low ranked players hasn't got any interest, any playing fun. For me, and for them. Boring games. And often, they leave after a block...
It's nothing to do with a matter of points.

      
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Re:superamsel at it again Fri, 19 October 2012 07:18
SNS Stephan1972-Octopussy wrote on Thu, 18 October 2012 23:19

Knockando - Apremont wrote on Wed, 17 October 2012 08:38

Drake AMD écrit le Wed, 17 October 2012 02:58

My point is playing low rated players to get to the number 1 spot is a legitimate method.



My point is refusing playing good players isn't a legitimate method to be legitimate number one.


but is refusing to play lower ranked players a more legitimate way?


Well, this was not my earlier point. If someone reaches nr. 1 on a map, winning 100/100 against weak ops, good for him/her. Goal achieved, point made. But being in the top of the rankings for five years with 2 accounts, hand-picking your opps and blocking much better swiss players from reaching number 1 (for five years), whilst clearly having cheated in the past, that's something completely different for me.
      
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Re:superamsel at it again Mon, 22 October 2012 11:06
Knockando - Apremont schrieb am Fri, 19 October 2012 07:05


Playing too low ranked players hasn't got any interest, any playing fun. For me, and for them. Boring games. And often, they leave after a block...
It's nothing to do with a matter of points.




well but games with lower ranked players can be dangerous..
some small mistake and you can lose also and if you lose you lose a lot of points.
i think thats the right answer why the most of the tops dont play 1100 Wink
      
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Re:superamsel at it again Mon, 22 October 2012 11:40
SMP-JenAck schrieb am Mon, 22 October 2012 11:06

well but games with lower ranked players can be dangerous..
some small mistake and you can lose also and if you lose you lose a lot of points.
i think thats the right answer why the most of the tops dont play 1100 Wink

I don't think so, at least for me that's not the reason.
If an 1100-player wants to see how he can do against a "top" Rolling Eyes , he is welcome.

But ...
I don't want to play "slow and fair" (actually fast&fair is a dangerous title because they want you to play fast, but they don't like you to finish fast Wink ) and I don't want to be called names because I didn't.
I don't want to wait 5 minutes in every 2nd game for a botted(?) player who never comes back.
I don't feel "good" when I beat a weak player (When I play Badminton against our "cracks" they normally don't smash hard - because they feel "it's not done" against a weak player and/or because it's not much use/fun if I can't reach any ball. So they don't play the game they normally would, and they probably don't enjoy it as much as they would enjoy a better opponent).

Therefore I will play any player who asks me to play, but I normally don't enter games opened by somebody 1500-.

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Re:superamsel at it again Mon, 22 October 2012 14:20
good points dea
but as i open my games called BLOCKING OK i have no problems to play as i like Wink
but i unterstand you Smile
      
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Re:superamsel at it again Mon, 22 October 2012 22:17
my score of 1600 was not enough to get into some games yesterday. My point is that some protect their scores by choosing only to play with very high ranked players, others by playing only low ranked players. is there really a difference?

      
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Re:superamsel at it again Mon, 22 October 2012 22:31
Good point.

Playing your second account remains a different matter, though.
      
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Re:superamsel at it again Mon, 22 October 2012 22:49
yes - that is cheating of course
      
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Re:superamsel at it again Thu, 25 October 2012 04:51
After reading 28 posts about Ritter/Superamsel, my deeply considered, relevant and appropriate conclusion is that me and Dea should have a badminton match!

I think me and her would beat Ritter and Superamsel at doubles, as they are not in fact 2 people Smile

Sven may even pop a sexy lil skirt on and play mixed doubles with peter de zeeuw... You never know!

I hope Dea didn't know the English for 'shuttlecock' (volantes for any frenchies)... If you were playing badminton with a ball things may get tricky Wink

Will (im not the one in a skirt... On this occasion!)

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Re:superamsel at it again Thu, 25 October 2012 04:57
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Re:superamsel at it again Thu, 25 October 2012 16:09
SNS Will-Skyfall wrote on Thu, 25 October 2012 04:51



Sven may even pop a sexy lil skirt on and play mixed doubles with peter de zeeuw... You never know!




If you promise to go to bed in time and not give me that icy stare you're showcasing here, AND you all show up in the "Haagse Bos", I will gladly get my skirt out and whoop your behind. I won't, however, show my undies like your lady-friend is doing here. I'm a good girl after all.
      
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Re:superamsel at it again Thu, 25 October 2012 16:23
Will is so good at badminton that the whole stadium is packed Smile !

Edit : and it's "volants" for any educated Frenchie Razz

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Re:superamsel at it again Fri, 26 October 2012 00:33
I know referees who might say that your service and your outfit is not correct, Will. Rolling Eyes

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(who is a former Badminton-Bundesliga-referee and is now playing double's with Dea-Champion) Laughing
      
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Re:superamsel at it again Fri, 26 October 2012 03:24
Are you going to post a picture of that hecki? This I HAVE to see! Laughing Very Happy
      
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Re:superamsel at it again Sat, 27 October 2012 00:01
I wasnt allowed to wear the matching yonex top to go with the shorts as I was sponsored and there were no advertising allowed at that tournament.

My serve is fine... twas the follow-through on a flick serve, hence my hand being behind the raquet!

And to any perverts out there (including me in this instance!) they are shorts you can see under her skirt. She looks pretty dam awesome in her bikini though, pictures on request lol. She's only 18 though, so a bit old for Sexy Sven Savile's tastes.

Edit: It's volantEs in my heart, and that's all that matters!

Haage's Bos: During the French Occupation in the early 19th Century, the forest was about to be cut down, but due to saboteurs and work delays the plan was never implemented. After the French occupation the ponds in the forest were made. Lazy frenchies couldnt be bothered working, they sabotaged any plans involving work, then put some ponds there to grow frogs for food... typical. And I bet they wore berets and smelt garlicy!

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Re:superamsel at it again Sat, 27 October 2012 00:14
SOS Truckerteller wrote on Thu, 25 October 2012 15:09


I won't, however, show my undies like your lady-friend is doing here. I'm a good girl after all.


I'd bloody well hope you were wearing some! Rolling Eyes
      
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Re:superamsel at it again Sat, 27 October 2012 12:09
Guess we should make a 2nd Badminton-TTR-tournament someday. Two very nice and thrilling sports - especially with Dea. Very Happy

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Re:superamsel at it again Fri, 14 December 2012 09:04
Chicos:

¿Creéis que me importa lo que penséis?
      
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superlame at it again Thu, 02 May 2013 09:05
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¿Creéis que me importa lo que penséis?

Para ti, es "ustedes" cuando hablas con nosotros !

Just a reminder...
Still using the flaws of the system...

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