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Dugrim

Posts: 55
Registered: October 2011
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament
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Tue, 15 January 2013 22:17

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@Lucky91: we are both online, but you don't reply to my invite and/or my PM. there's something wrong?
Do you want to reschedule the battle?
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LooneyLlama

Posts: 488
Registered: March 2008
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament
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Wed, 16 January 2013 01:54

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I am now posting Stalingrad online. Once I hear where to place the inf. unit for the Allies, I will change the name to 'Stalingrad North , Rattenkrieg, Tournament revision'. Then once Helcat makes the matchups we can start. Sam has already assigned Dugrim as our 2 point player.
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Helcat

Posts: 270
Registered: December 2008
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament
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Wed, 16 January 2013 14:53

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Ok,
Here are the lineups for the next round.
Helcat - JJ Juggernaut
Jaykay2010 2pt - LooneyLlama
gheintze - sam1812
lucky91 - Jeronimon
van Voort - Vercingetorix1302
tank commander - Dugrim 2pt
JAParker - clorofila
Gonzalan - Artimon
Go Allies.
Good luck and have fun.
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gonzalan
Posts: 190
Registered: May 2003
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van Voort

Posts: 434
Registered: August 2011
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament
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Wed, 16 January 2013 20:15

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van Voort - Vercingetorix1302
You just did that so it would be:
vV v V
Didn't you?
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LooneyLlama

Posts: 488
Registered: March 2008
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament
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Thu, 17 January 2013 00:06

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Just about ready for round 3. I need to know where to place the extra infantry unit for the Allies. I do have a question. It was not stated in the beginning as to what type of infantry would be used. Do you want to be able to use a special force or engineer unit, not just a regular one? I'll leave it up to the two commanders to decide. However, I do think the armor unit should be just a regular 3 figure one.
ATTENTION:
Also,there is a bug in regards to snipers and artillery. In online play you are able to target artillery with snipers. They hit on stars and grenades. I kind of like the idea. It would be like the snipers are killing off the gun crews. Again, I will leave the decision up to the 2 commanders. Whatever they decide will be carried on throughout the rest of the tournament.
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gheintze

Posts: 861
Registered: August 2004
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament
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Thu, 17 January 2013 00:33

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I'm pretty sure that snipers can target artillery in the boardgame too.
I think win by 3 should be regular infantry, and win by 4 should be armor or special infantry.
Geoff
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Helcat

Posts: 270
Registered: December 2008
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament
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Thu, 17 January 2013 00:53

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The rule has been clarified, I would like to have a regular infantry unit on our right flank on field K1.
Erik
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gonzalan
Posts: 190
Registered: May 2003
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament
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Thu, 17 January 2013 02:42

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| Helcat wrote on Wed, 16 January 2013 16:53 | The rule has been clarified, I would like to have a regular infantry unit on our right flank on field K1.
1 point - dig in one unit
2 points - add one badge to one unit (infantry only)
3 points - add one infantry of your choice on your baseline or as close as possible.
4 points - add one regular armor unit on or as close to baseline as possible.
5 points or more - add any unit of your choice (except mobile artillery) on or 1 hex in front of the baseline.
Erik
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SAC Helcat,
No RUSSIAN infantry is a regular unit!! They have the backing of the RED ARMY and therefore are SUPER TROOPS!! A badge does not a unit make, that shall be proven in this scenario!!
As for Geoff's idea, going forward, sounds good, 3 pts INFANTRY unit, 4 pts, SPECIAL unit of choice.
Afterall, the MAN has 3 pts, how wrong could he be!!?
Question, since we won by 3 pts, could we not also take either to the 1st 2 choices, DIG IN or ADD BADGE based on pt differential, does it have to be the 3 pt choice only? Just a thought....were the above the finalized choices for the tournament?
[Updated on: Thu, 17 January 2013 02:50]
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LooneyLlama

Posts: 488
Registered: March 2008
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament
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Thu, 17 January 2013 04:08

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Ok Gentlemen,
The Russian unit has been added(inf. with Rosette) and we are now able to begin our 3rd round. Have fun!!
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sam1812

Posts: 1912
Registered: August 2006
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament
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Thu, 17 January 2013 04:35

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Good luck, everybody, and let's all have more fun!
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Helcat

Posts: 270
Registered: December 2008
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament
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Thu, 17 January 2013 14:53

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Hmm, you might be right, Gonzalan.
I might not have thought about that very well. Nevertheless this will be the set up with which we will win. I will keep the thought in mind for the next match. But I think I will be able to choose an artillery then.
Sharpen your dies and we will roll to victory.
Good luck to all.
| gonzalan wrote on Thu, 17 January 2013 02:42 |
| Helcat wrote on Wed, 16 January 2013 16:53 | The rule has been clarified, I would like to have a regular infantry unit on our right flank on field K1.
1 point - dig in one unit
2 points - add one badge to one unit (infantry only)
3 points - add one infantry of your choice on your baseline or as close as possible.
4 points - add one regular armor unit on or as close to baseline as possible.
5 points or more - add any unit of your choice (except mobile artillery) on or 1 hex in front of the baseline.
Erik
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SAC Helcat,
No RUSSIAN infantry is a regular unit!! They have the backing of the RED ARMY and therefore are SUPER TROOPS!! A badge does not a unit make, that shall be proven in this scenario!!
As for Geoff's idea, going forward, sounds good, 3 pts INFANTRY unit, 4 pts, SPECIAL unit of choice.
Afterall, the MAN has 3 pts, how wrong could he be!!?
Question, since we won by 3 pts, could we not also take either to the 1st 2 choices, DIG IN or ADD BADGE based on pt differential, does it have to be the 3 pt choice only? Just a thought....were the above the finalized choices for the tournament?
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tank commander

Posts: 1788
Registered: October 2004
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament
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Thu, 17 January 2013 22:16

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Well, a regular infantry (3 pt) is a pretty weak sister in comparsion to a tank unit (4 pt).
If you make a 4 pt a tank or special inf of choice, I think in most cases the tank would be the no brainer selection.
So maybe the 3 pt should be at least a badged infantry of choice to give that win marign at least a bit more value.
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Jeronimon

Posts: 610
Registered: November 2007
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament
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Fri, 18 January 2013 00:11

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Hypothetically speaking: For Rattenkrieg I would have not taken the tanks but an engineer unit (if you had had that choice and the 4 point win.)
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gheintze

Posts: 861
Registered: August 2004
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament
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Fri, 18 January 2013 00:49

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| Jeronimon wrote on Thu, 17 January 2013 18:11 | Hypothetically speaking: For Rattenkrieg I would have not taken the tanks but an engineer unit (if you had had that choice and the 4 point win.)
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I agree...
Geoff
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tank commander

Posts: 1788
Registered: October 2004
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament
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Fri, 18 January 2013 02:05

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| gheintze wrote on Thu, 17 January 2013 18:49 |
| Jeronimon wrote on Thu, 17 January 2013 18:11 | Hypothetically speaking: For Rattenkrieg I would have not taken the tanks but an engineer unit (if you had had that choice and the 4 point win.)
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I agree...
Geoff
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Yes, for this scenario the Combat Eng would be the choice. In most other scenarios, the tank would win out.
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LooneyLlama

Posts: 488
Registered: March 2008
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament
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Fri, 18 January 2013 02:28

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Hi everyone,
Since no one has played the scenario yet, we can still all agree to make the 3 point difference a badged infantry. I'm fine with that. We have to do it now before the round starts. I just need a quick vote from everyone, especially the commanders.
I think we can all agree that you may choose a lesser advantage to use for a scenario. So, if we stay with a regular inf. for a 3 point differential, the Allies may instead opt to place an engineer badge on an existing unit.
Whatever changes we finalize will be implemented tomorrow. I know some of you will be playing Stalingrad this weekend.
Eric
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JAParker

Posts: 35
Registered: May 2010
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament
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Fri, 18 January 2013 02:42

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Since the original 3 point description was "1 infantry of your choice", I assumed that special infantry (such as special forces, engineers, anti-tank) was implied--otherwise, where is the choice?
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gonzalan
Posts: 190
Registered: May 2003
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament
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Fri, 18 January 2013 03:16

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Oh, did I open a can of worms? Well, not my intention obviously, but we know everyone has their thinking caps on!
For this round, the choices should remain the same so that we, the ALLIES, will only have the the choices the AXIS had last round and good point JAParker!
After this round, if the SAC's agree to make a change to the choices, then they can be in place going in to the next round and both sides will know what we are getting based on point difference.
Otherwise, let the battles begin!
[Updated on: Fri, 18 January 2013 03:26]
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clorofila

Posts: 365
Registered: April 2011
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament
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Fri, 18 January 2013 04:15

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I'm fine with a badged infantry for a 3 pts differential. I also agree that a team should be able to choose a lesser advantage.
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gonzalan
Posts: 190
Registered: May 2003
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Dugrim

Posts: 55
Registered: October 2011
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament
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Fri, 18 January 2013 12:27

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| clorofila wrote on Thu, 17 January 2013 20:15 | I'm fine with a badged infantry for a 3 pts differential. I also agree that a team should be able to choose a lesser advantage.
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+1
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tank commander

Posts: 1788
Registered: October 2004
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament
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Fri, 18 January 2013 12:40

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If it is decided that the 3 pt does not entitle our side to an infantry of choice (just a regular infantry) I would indeed go with the "lesser" 2 pt option and upgrade an existing on board ifantry to a Combat Eng.
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LooneyLlama

Posts: 488
Registered: March 2008
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Helcat

Posts: 270
Registered: December 2008
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament
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Fri, 18 January 2013 16:11

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Great,
And Good Luck to all.
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Jeronimon

Posts: 610
Registered: November 2007
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament
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Sun, 20 January 2013 23:30

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Luc and me tried to play our match tonight but there were some connection problems and Luc faded in and out of battle. we rescheduled for tomorrow evening and pray we do not have connection problems.
The match was all my way 
Johnny did a particularly bad Air Strike somewhere when Luc wasn't around
I played very very aggressive and raked in the medals and objectives, Johnny/Luc lost 12 to 7 so probably the tables will be turned tomorrow and Luc will do really well. 
See you tomorrow copain!
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Dugrim

Posts: 55
Registered: October 2011
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tank commander

Posts: 1788
Registered: October 2004
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament
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Mon, 21 January 2013 17:26

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| Dugrim wrote on Mon, 21 January 2013 10:55 | tank commander: I don't know why, but I was kicked out...
I'm very sorry about this, but my internet connection is ok, maybe a server problem.
What about you?
Could we reschedule the battle, or you have the win by my disconnection (or what else)?
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We should try again. I have sent you a P.M.
John
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Jaykay2010

Posts: 487
Registered: November 2009
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament
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Mon, 21 January 2013 20:11

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It's interesting to hear of other players' disconnection problems...
I've noticed I've been on the end of a few recently, (all within the last 2 weeks), normally I don't have any problems whatsoever, and have found the connection to be most stable. I've not changed my internet provider.
Is this a noticable problem for others too? Especially more recently? Or just a quirky set of circumstances that we're finding ourselves/opponents getting disconnected more often?
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tank commander

Posts: 1788
Registered: October 2004
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament
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Mon, 21 January 2013 22:05

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| Jaykay2010 wrote on Mon, 21 January 2013 14:11 | It's interesting to hear of other players' disconnection problems...
I've noticed I've been on the end of a few recently, (all within the last 2 weeks), normally I don't have any problems whatsoever, and have found the connection to be most stable. I've not changed my internet provider.
Is this a noticable problem for others too? Especially more recently? Or just a quirky set of circumstances that we're finding ourselves/opponents getting disconnected more often?
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I have only lost connection once in the recent past but a few of my opponents have lost connection too. But that covers close to 100 games.
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LooneyLlama

Posts: 488
Registered: March 2008
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament
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Mon, 21 January 2013 22:46

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Jim and I played for nearly an hour with no problems. Hopefully,
this doesn't continue. This is a long scenario to have to reschedule. You need at least an hour of free time to play it. Hang in there.
Eric
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clorofila

Posts: 365
Registered: April 2011
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament
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Tue, 22 January 2013 00:26

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I used to get disconnected from time to time, but luckily this hasn't happen lately. I don't think there's an issue about it, just an unfortunate coincidence. Remember that this game demands a stable and continuous connection to the servers; just a small glitch will be enough to kick a player out.
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Helcat

Posts: 270
Registered: December 2008
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van Voort

Posts: 434
Registered: August 2011
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament
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Tue, 22 January 2013 20:26

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There is no land on the East bank of the Volga
The population of our country, who love and respect the Red Army, start to be discouraged in her, and lose faith in the Red Army, and many curse the Red Army for leaving our people under the yoke of the German oppressors, and itself running east.
Some stupid people at the front calm themselves with talk that we can retreat further to the east, as we have a lot of territory, a lot of ground, a lot of population and that there will always be much bread for us.
[]
Not one step back! Such should now be our main slogan.
It is necessary to defend each position, each meter of our territory, up to the last drop of blood, to cling for each plot of Soviet land and to defend it as long as possible.
Our Motherland is experiencing hard days. We must stop, and then to throw back and smash the enemy regardless of cost. The Germans are not so strong, as it seems to the panic-mongers. They strain their last forces. To withstand their impact now, means to ensure our victory in some months.
Can we withstand the impact, and then throw back the enemy to the west? Yes we can, because our factories and plants in the rear are fine and our army receives ever more and more airplanes, tanks, artillery and mortars.
Josef Stalin 28/7/42
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LooneyLlama

Posts: 488
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament
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Tue, 22 January 2013 20:37

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Van Voort,
I didn't realize that Stalin was so eloquent. It was probably his speechwriter. It is a great quote. I'll bet you are trying to inspire the troops.
By the way, I don't know if everyone noticed that there is a Stalingrad City of Rubble and Iron scenario that can be combined with Rattenkrieg to make an Overlord battle. I have to say I've never played both together in Overlord but I think it would be pretty interesting.
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van Voort

Posts: 434
Registered: August 2011
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament
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Tue, 22 January 2013 21:02

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There is no land beyond the Volga is attributed to Zaytsev.
The rest is from Stalin's Order227
We will see if it works
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van Voort

Posts: 434
Registered: August 2011
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament
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Tue, 22 January 2013 22:00

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It did
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gonzalan
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament
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Tue, 22 January 2013 22:04

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| van Voort wrote on Tue, 22 January 2013 14:00 | It did
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Wahoo! 1st point for the ALLIES I take it? Battle of the V's went to our side, well done, an inspiration to us all, will heed the ORDER!!!
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LooneyLlama

Posts: 488
Registered: March 2008
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament
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Tue, 22 January 2013 23:45

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Van Voort and Vercingetorix, congratulations on an unbelievable struggle! This round is producing some terrific games. Kudos to both of you. Is there any way I can see the replay? I would love to follow your game.
Two 12-11 games and one 12-10. What's in store for us next!!
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tank commander

Posts: 1788
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Re:Online Eastern Front Tournament
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Wed, 23 January 2013 00:05

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| van Voort wrote on Tue, 22 January 2013 14:26 | []
..... and our army receives ever more and more airplanes, tanks, artillery and mortars.
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Josef Stalin 28/7/42
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Forget the equipment, where are our Vodka rations?
True story, a mortar unit commander had not reported all the men lost due to enemy action in order to still get their vodka rations. When the supply officer found out about this he cut off all the vodka rations to this unit. The unit commander turned his mortars around and shelled the supply area. The supply officer promptly reported this to a superior. Instead of issuing an arrest order for the mortar officer, he told the supply officer to send the vodka
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