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Sysyphus - Pommard
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Nations Cup : USA teams Tue, 07 August 2012 05:16
Ok guys, there's a thread opened to chat about our respective teams. I'd hope 3 teams would play for the US.

I'll send the necessary pm's to good players likely to be interested. Please share all your thoughts and talks for the upcoming NC.

And also why not setting training tourneys before NC ?

http://www.tickipedia.net/wiki/Nations_Cup_2011

I'm up to play again !

[Updated on: Tue, 07 August 2012 05:24]

      
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Re:Nations Cup : USA teams Wed, 08 August 2012 18:59
For those of you too lazy to check out the link sysy posted or those that still dont understand, the Nations Cup is a 2 player tournament held each fall between various different countries. Each team submits 5 players each week to participate in a head to head clash again an opposing team. You then have that week to schedule a best of 7 game match against one player on the other team that your matched up against. Countries can have as many teams as they are able to form, which is why we are hoping to have at least 3.

Also, here is the list that sysy had posted a few days ago in the Competitive Forum listing all of the American players that are eligible to play:

Bry Guy 3845
DrakeStorm 3792
*foss 3759
mef23 3754
Still Here 3740
thekid: 3724
maunaloa AMD: 3717
blubes 3714
psteinx 3704
The Tinman 3676
bbandccrock 3675
mennonite436 3655
EnderWiggin 3646
JimmyJaZedZed 3645
Lineke 3643
gnirlum 3632
Vballman20: 3625
onyx puffin 3621
ATLeague 3616
abelius 3610
ty-nasty 3585
player27917250 3558
ameteir 3547
Buckeyemark 3544
BikoDoggy 3533
~John 3528
smith07 3527
GenuineFauxFarm 3522
vmot 3517
ryder 3517
jriesenb 3517
lastbaron 3512
alanis21 3507
squirtmat 3505
amborn 3485
aseliv 3476
hannahandryan 3474
heyrobguy 3471
JUSTLAZYZERO 3469
tweet 3463
Gandalf9 3462
Dan Saul Knight1 3460
jonjokull 3456
tennisman 3455
Dalo 3448
Tyrana 3446
grovsmeden1 3444
Mango Putney 3443
Ravage811 3440
Lok1414 3435
BraveLittleTailor 3434
itsmeagain 3433
deer-dance 3429
solinsf 3428
Baron Von Schmidt 3427
ipad 3423
solomonster 3421
sumpy73 3417
22twain 3416
teejay21 3415
Che Pepito 3409
melonakos 3408
Nuero 3404
Litwin 3403
That just happened 3396
toddcalu 3393
flyinhigh47 3384
sundeviler 3381
logi2 3378
TomMIT 3374
player721864 3373
VenisPagina1 3372
Tsreinsch 3363
On the right track 3362
baks10 3362
OsterStyle 3361
The Nutsack 3361
nuke dr 3360
gavagai 3353
ChulaVistaDave 3348
1/4dt 3335
Wild West 3334
mmarkusaurelius 3331
reddyotter 3330
Kun Zai 3329
BOXcarWilly 3328
fubus 3326
FCBboy 3319
player369751 3318
player654640 3317
Bill Brasky 3315
edparkmike 3314
chasfinney2 3314
asomatous 3314
tho01 3314
furyleica 3311
veronia67 3305
netserke 3305
jimbobcooter 3303
luduhil1 3303
Brickbat 3301
Bronco Prince Billy 3296
Lucky Swiss 3294
player385172 3293
SLOrider 3293
Dright 3292
D-train 3291
yucca1001 3290
RyRyLee 3289
lidvarandvik 3288
mangotiger 3287
ribbit 3282
vlaada1 3282
lemondrop train 3282
cuttiepie937 3278
Vonwilly 3277
sharksfan4 3275
GoForYo 3275
Chacheeblue1 3273
GElston 3272
jlba 3271
chickenwinglihan 3270
qianqian 3269
brad296 3269
daddy-o 3268
MRESP 3265
jdawg2225 3261
MateoExo 3260
Hames30 3259
1jacandersos 3259
fedawg2 3258
Jimmyleg 3257
happysingh22 3255
bufsabz 3252
techi 3252
KESTERMADEMEDOIT 3250
chocho7 3250
fitmom210 3248
merrypranksta 3246
B Ando 3244
natzo zatka 3243
drometheus 3242
BlackPearl1 3240
Strangeite 3239
brian niels 3236
baschroder 3235
iSELVES 3234
ZBeeblebrox 3233
RaleighRoughrider 3230
David from Atherton 3230
Davezzo 3230

If you are on this list and interested, feel free to reply. The more players and teams we can make, the more fun it is for all of us!

Once we can get a good number of players together, then we can help each other improve by playing tournaments (like sysy suggested) or playing regular games with each other. Discuss your tickets afterwards and help each other out if you think there could have been a better way to play the tickets.

Once again, the more people we have, the more fun we can have together!

menno
      
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Re:Nations Cup : USA teams Wed, 08 August 2012 21:46
Looking to join a US team this year. Do not know if any of the teams have been shaken up or what this year. Let me know.

Also will be willing to create a team if anyone on the list that sysy posted would like to play. PM me either way.

Thanks,

Rav
      
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Re:Nations Cup : USA teams Thu, 09 August 2012 01:00


Confirmed in both original teams.

BIP : GFF, blubes, menno, mef, Bry, Tinman

AMD : onyx, Drake, Vball, ommie, Sysy.

Kid hasnt showed up in the lobby in a long time.

Not sure about maunaloa, John and Ty yet.


I think we have materials to build a 3rd team.

I sent a pm to 20 of those players. At least, it dragged Ravage here.

Then depends if someone wants to be the mentor of that 3rd and be in charge of it.
      
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Re:Nations Cup : USA teams Sun, 12 August 2012 09:39
COUNT ME IN! LET ME KNOW WHEN AND WHERE TO BE SOMEWHERE! THANKS!
      
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Re:Nations Cup : USA teams Sun, 12 August 2012 09:41
COUNT ME IN! LET ME KNOW WHEN AND WHERE TO BE SOMEWHERE! THANKS!
      
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Re:Nations Cup : USA teams Fri, 24 August 2012 05:29
Ipad is interested in joining a team.

Gnirlum would be up too, but fears he wouldnt be that available. Better to count him as a 6th guy in a team of 4.
ATLeague sounded interested too and is available.

3rd team :

Ravage
Ipad
bbandccrock
ATLeague
Gnirlum


Someone to be captain ?

I guess the team would need a 6th player to guarantee a lineup everyweek. Better with experience of tourneys too.
      
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Re:Nations Cup : USA teams Fri, 24 August 2012 18:07
I have the time and can be the captain for this team.
      
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Re:Nations Cup : USA teams Mon, 27 August 2012 23:22
I was not sent a PM, but someone in lobby pointed me here anyway. If you need an additional player, I may be interested (only hesitating because I'm unsure of exactly what I am committing to here, i.e. how many games, how rigid/flexible a schedule). Anyway, let me know if I am needed.
      
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Re:Nations Cup : USA teams Thu, 13 September 2012 21:56
If JimmiJazed still wants a discussion by pm he can put me off his ignore list. But i guess he wont.

Then open letter to him and explanation about why he's not part of a 3rd team.

I sent a list of players to Tyrana, future captain. And yes, i forgot to mention your pm that arrived later in my box than any others because i was at work.

Then tyrana as a captain, and also a very good friend of mine, asked me about jimmiJazedzed.

Obviously, with what happened some months ago, with JZZ using the temporary failure of the ranking system and denying continuously that he did it on purpose, I didn't back his integration in the 3rd team, when Tyrana asked my opinion about it.

I don't filter anything, I share my opinion with a friend who asks for it. If your friend is asking for your opinion about a restaurant of which you thought the food really not good, the friend is very likely to not go to that restaurant...

Does that prevent anybody from going at that restaurant ? No.

Moreover, Tyrana chose to play with 7 players and thought it was enough.

JZZ can still play NC and is welcome to be part of a TNT, if he would like to sign up at that link.

http://www.daysofwonder.com/en/msg/?th=26034&start=0

[Updated on: Thu, 13 September 2012 21:57]

      
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Re:Nations Cup : USA teams Thu, 31 January 2013 23:37
BTB Sysyphus wrote on Thu, 13 September 2012 14:56

If JimmiJazed still wants a discussion by pm he can put me off his ignore list. But i guess he wont.

Then open letter to him and explanation about why he's not part of a 3rd team.

I sent a list of players to Tyrana, future captain. And yes, i forgot to mention your pm that arrived later in my box than any others because i was at work.

Then tyrana as a captain, and also a very good friend of mine, asked me about jimmiJazedzed.

Obviously, with what happened some months ago, with JZZ using the temporary failure of the ranking system and denying continuously that he did it on purpose, I didn't back his integration in the 3rd team, when Tyrana asked my opinion about it.

I don't filter anything, I share my opinion with a friend who asks for it. If your friend is asking for your opinion about a restaurant of which you thought the food really not good, the friend is very likely to not go to that restaurant...

Does that prevent anybody from going at that restaurant ? No.

Moreover, Tyrana chose to play with 7 players and thought it was enough.

JZZ can still play NC and is welcome to be part of a TNT, if he would like to sign up at that link.

http://www.daysofwonder.com/en/msg/?th=26034&start=0



Hmm. I did not see this until now, until someone not directly involved asked me if I was mad that Sysyphus personally, actively sabotaged my effort to play in the NC for USA. My immediate reaction was that I was stunned any of this was even public. In asking how that came to be, I learned of this post by him. Took me a few days to get around to looking for it, but now I have. Yes I was irritated back then about what he did (or rather didn't) do. But I saw no need to publicly posture about it! What good would it do, and why should anyone else need to know, or even care. It seems however the other party in the disagreement did want to air the dirty laundry, I now see.

The specifics he wrote are even more ... interesting. In the PM Sysyphus sent me -- the one that led me to put him on ignore, because he continued insulting me in it, beyond what he posted publicly on April 2012 -- he didn't say this (that Tyrana asked him about me); he said he offered his opinion unsolicited, to Tyrana when he sent my name to him.

And Tyrana, for his own part, gives a completely different account to BOTH of Sysphus's versions in a couple PMs to me. eg:
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Hi JJZZ,

I am sorry. I had no idea if you were still interested in playing Sad I took the first 6 that said yes. To be honest i have never heard sysy say he didnt like you.

It was kind of a last minute thing for me to be a captain. If you care to play some games please let me know Smile Again I am sorry that I did not hear from you sooner.

Have a great evening. Thank you for the PM.

Smiles,
Tyrana
I found (and still find) this explanation completely satisfactory, and I also appreciate the comments from a couple other members of that team that they would have been happy as teammates. My understanding from Tyrana, and an earlier expl by Sys, is that Sys never forwarded my PM to hime with my 2nd confirmation I wanted to play. So Tyrana had no idea I was still interested, and since he already had enough players, he didn't have any need to try to find out.

I don't really know what the deal is with Sysyphus, why he's compelled to lie (true, I can only suppose he's the one lying here & not Tyrana, but I do know there is at least one other lie, his claim he sent PMs to top US players asking if they wanted to play NC; I did not get one). But life's too short to try to figure out people like Julien. I'm sure he's a nice guy to people he likes. And I'm just as sure that I'm not one of them Rolling Eyes

Peace. Let's put this aside & move on. It's aestablished you don't like me, and ... well, at this point I don't like you much either. But let's not air the dirty laundry in public & suck everyone else into it, OK Julien?
      
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Re:Nations Cup : USA teams Fri, 01 February 2013 01:25
JimmyJaZedZed wrote on Thu, 31 January 2013 15:37

Hmm. I did not see this until now, until someone not directly involved asked me if I was mad that Sysyphus personally, actively sabotaged my effort to play in the NC for USA.



I guess you were super interested in playing since you haven't read that thread at all. Registration was not close at the time of my last message in there...

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My immediate reaction was that I was stunned any of this was even public. In asking how that came to be, I learned of this post by him. Took me a few days to get around to looking for it, but now I have.



Why did it go public ?
We had a discussion by pm, but you chose to put me on your ignore list...
So I offered you an answer in this thread so that you have a full version of what happened...
Because I was on your ignore list, you could not also read that message in the forum. And you chose to not listen to what I had to say.

So I was not the one who stopped communication here...

Quote:


It seems however the other party in the disagreement did want to air the dirty laundry, I now see.


Talking about stuff that happened 5 months is probably way better !

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because he continued insulting me in it,


Since you like to publish pm, where are the insults you are talking about ?



Tyrana said:

To be honest i have never heard sysy say he didnt like you.



Well we had deep communication with Tyrana about you, tons of insults apparently !
That sucks that Tyrana is involved with that. She is a she btw, and she answered to your request.
It has never crossed your mind that she was trying to be nice to you ? That she found a nice way to tell you that she was not interested in playing with you...

To show your interest, you could also have contacted Tyrana right ?
You could have also been more vocal in that thread right ?

We had 3 American teams, but nobody offered you a spot ?
When we know that blubes is happy to welcome all the edgy players in his team, we can also wonder why nobody was interested in playing with you...
Nothing prevents you from building your own team with all the buddies you're talking about !

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I don't really know what the deal is with Sysyphus, why he's compelled to lie (true, I can only suppose he's the one lying here & not Tyrana, but I do know there is at least one other lie, his claim he sent PMs to top US players asking if they wanted to play NC; I did not get one).



Yes I claimed that. When I'm looking for top players, top is defined by your ttr skills, but also by the behavioral standards you promote. And sorry, you didn't fit in those.
That said, I'm no captain of ALL the US teams. Any captain could have hired you in their teams, but nobody did, especially that you were part of the list of players eligible for Nation Cup.
Moreover, JZZ could have signed up for a Transnational Team if he wanted to play NC, and he didn't do it either.
I didn't see any support for JZZ in this thread nor in the competitive thread... nobody complained about this either.
I don't mind being a "bad guy", if JZZ wants me to be one, but please stop thinking I'm the only one responsible for your non-participation to tournaments.

And please know that nothing prevents you from playing a tourney, especially if you have that many buddies. But nothing prevents me from setting standards for players who are likely to play with me, or for players who will be part of teams that I help set up.

Cu around Jimmy !

[Updated on: Fri, 01 February 2013 04:58]

      
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Re:Nations Cup : USA teams Fri, 01 February 2013 08:11
BTB Sysyphus wrote on Thu, 31 January 2013 18:25

To show your interest, you could also have contacted Tyrana right ?


I'm a simple person. You sent the following PM to me when the team was forming & I naively followed your instructions to just contact you, and just trusted you were sincere:
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NC Mon, 03 September 2012 22:37

Sent to bbandccrock;Tyrana;ATLeague;gnirlum;Ravage811;ipad; JimmyJaZedZed;solinsf

Hi guys,

If you are still interested to play NC, please confirm by sending me a pm, preferably before Saturday.

Ravage volunteered to be captain, I'd like a confirmation from him also, so that we can register a 3rd American team on time (before Sunday) !

Julien

"L'ennemi est bête, il croit que c'est nous l'ennemi alors que c'est lui. "


I don't think like you, I didn't expect someone to misrepresent themselves to my face that I'm welcomed, while having (according to you) entirely different conversations behind my back to actively prevent it.

BTB Sysyphus wrote on Thu, 31 January 2013 18:25

So I was not the one who stopped communication here...

No dispute, it was me that wanted to cease communication with you, once you told me you intervened to prevent me being on a team. I never said otherwise. Can anyone else reading the above post by Julien, not understand why I'd want to stop communication?

In hindsight I will agree with you about one thing: I should not have responded to this earlier today when I found it. I guess it just blew my mind that you are this big a bully, that you went after me in public after I used "ignore" to stop you from continuing to do it in private. And to think all this, 100% of it, comes from your upset over my "great crime" of playing ipad players too often for your tastes for two weeks in early 2012. "Oh, the humanity!" Rolling Eyes

OK, that's all the more I should say, I think.

[Updated on: Fri, 01 February 2013 08:39]

      
    
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