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Cromze - Pouilly-fumé
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Dow's ranking system mysteries Tue, 13 August 2013 12:56
Hi community,

That's not the first time I note something like this : sometimes my overall ranking is better than a player when this player has better rankings than me in all the maps and specialities (2er/multi).

See this example from today :

http://imageshack.us/a/img35/3379/lny0.png

http://imageshack.us/a/img839/8114/718o.png

Here Angel has better rankings than me for 2er and multi and better scores in every map except Asia. But my overall ranking is better than his...

Anyone knows why ?
Is this because of the number of games played ? Or because of the registration's date on Dow's site ?
If anyone has an idea how it works, I'd be curious to understand Wink
      
Qorlas
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Re:Dow's ranking system mysteries Tue, 13 August 2013 13:14
The partial rankings were included later. At first there was only the overall ranking, so only in the overall ranking are considered the oldest games.
      
Cromze - Pouilly-fumé
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Re:Dow's ranking system mysteries Wed, 14 August 2013 00:42
Ok that sounds like a clear explanation !
Thx Q
      
onyx puffin MAD
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Re:Dow's ranking system mysteries Wed, 14 August 2013 02:06
So Q, are you saying that we older players have a lower overall score due to the old system?

And not just because DoW reset the start value higher than previous?
      
AAA_dea1
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Re:Dow's ranking system mysteries Wed, 14 August 2013 12:41
I don't think it's that simple.

You will have different cases.

Type 1)
If you beat somebody with a high overall rating on a map he just started, you'll get many points for your overall score, but little for the map score.
If you catch a good 2er tournament player relaxing with the occasional multi you get many points for your overall score.

Type 2)
On the other hand there are many specialists in certain maps with a bad overall score. Beat them on their favourite map and you get many points for the map, close to nothing for overall.


Angel normally jumps into the first 1400+ game he sees, regardless of map. So probably he gets more of Type 2 than some other players.
      
AAA_Angel6
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Re:Dow's ranking system mysteries Wed, 14 August 2013 17:03
The real true explanation is easy Very Happy

A couple of months ago I was #1 in 2p and overall. I almost never played multi back then, my multi ranking was mediocre.

Then I started to play multi regularly.
Thereby, my good overall ranking dropped much more than my mediocre multi ranking, because my opponents were higher in multi than overall (probably because the multi specialists lose in 2p when they seldom play it), and because my multi ranking started much lower.

Lately, my multi got better (it's like the flue Wink ), and my multi ranking grew faster than my overall ranking, again because my opponents have the better multi ranking.
      
AAA_Angel6
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Re:Dow's ranking system mysteries Wed, 14 August 2013 17:10
There is also the question, why the best 2p rankings are higher then the best multi rankings. That's because 2p games you can control better.
You can win 60-95% of 2p games, depending on your opponents strength.
In multi, you might be able to win against 55-85% of your opponents.

In 2p, 2000 is a great ranking,
in multi, 1900 is maybe even better.

So, being a 2p master, you can get higher overall than being a multi master. (however, the multi ranking is swinging more than the 2p ranking; so, the average multi ranking over the year will be much lower than the 2p ranking, but extreme spikes are more probable at multi)

      
    
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