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mbover
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counters or figures Mon, 22 January 2007 14:37
Hi all, I have just brought the game.
Has anyone made any counters to replace the figures with.
It seems to me that the figures take up alot of space and tend to be a pain to sort out.
I think some counters would be easier to use.

many thanks
Mat
      
Bigblue
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Re:counters or figures Mon, 22 January 2007 14:47
One of the reasons that I bought the game was because of the figures. I plan to paint them eventually. I have been working on being able to move the figures while keeping them in the proper formation. I hope that the days of the counters (chits) are gone, but to each their own. Very Happy
      
Stormshine
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Re:counters or figures Mon, 22 January 2007 15:19
I'm with Bigblue, here. I'm just painting mine up right now. I do realize that the pieces kind of go everywhere, though. One person on these boards mentioned that they had some bad tremors (which I imagine enhances game-play somewhat). Heck, my daughter threw a toy, bowling style, through one of my best line formations (I think she won 3 banners with one toss). I still don't think I will give that up for a simple token.

In order to smooth out gameplay, I've taken a hint from a few of the die-hards here. I bought a clear acrylic sheet and placed it over the board and tiles, to make it one surface and not trip over the twigs and rocks. I ordered some small magnetic bases (15mm) to glue on the bottom of each figure, as well as some inch and a quarter square wood and plain metal bases (gluing one to the other) and a set of 4 figures will nicely fit on a single square. Now they won't scatter when I move the figures around. For the horses, a 1 x 2 inch wood/metal thingy will fit perfectly. I am still awaiting the basing infrastructure, but I will post pics and shopping lists if anyone likes.

On the flip-side, I figure you could buy some small wood bases (maybe 3/4 inch), drill a hole through the middle of them and glue a wood dowel in the center of them. Then, take several colours of beads and thread them on the dowel. Voila! Just take a bead off for every hit. In this way, you could just play on a printout of each map. Kind of travel-sized. Maybe even make the bottoms magnetic and you can even play it in the car!

Just a few ideas.

P.S. It could just be that you are just playing with us, knowing what kind of obsessive nuts we are. I can picture someone saying to themselves, "Watch them go crazy over this post!"

[Updated on: Mon, 22 January 2007 15:21]

      
*player29746
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Re:counters or figures Mon, 22 January 2007 16:50
Stormshine wrote on Mon, 22 January 2007 08:19


P.S. It could just be that you are just playing with us, knowing what kind of obsessive nuts we are. I can picture someone saying to themselves, "Watch them go crazy over this post!"


Obsessive nuts?
Is that what they're saying about us?

I have finished painting all my figures.

Recording all the sound effects from the battle scenes in the movie "Braveheart" and "Lord of the Rings" to play in the background helps with the ambiance as well.

The stands holding 4 units so they can move all at once is good too.

But before I do that, I want to install tiny remote control devices on the stands so I can move my units across the board using a joystick and not even have to pick them up.

Of course, I am not being serious about everything I wrote above (some of it is true, you will have to figure out which is which - I'm not telling).

I suppose my "obsession" began many years ago when I was a kid. I remember getting my electric football game out, turning up the vibration level, setting up two sides of soldiers on the board, and turning it on. They would move around (using rather poor tactics, I might add) and fall (one downside is that the fallen in battle would continue to move around some) and the last side standing won the battle.

Now, someone is going to criticize the "luck" factor in this, and I will grant it, but I was only 7 or 8 years old.
      
Stormshine
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Re:counters or figures Mon, 22 January 2007 17:59
That's it... I'm installing a vibrational device under my game table. Last banner standing wins!
      
Captain_Wiley
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Re:counters or figures Mon, 22 January 2007 20:32
JonWQ wrote on Mon, 22 January 2007 10:50

Recording all the sound effects from the battle scenes in the movie "Braveheart" and "Lord of the Rings" to play in the background helps with the ambiance as well.


JonWQ: The battle scenes in the "Gladiator" soundtrack are great for that, too!

The figures are half the reason for getting the game. My kids, all girls, would have no enticement to play with square cardboard counters, and neither would I anymore ("Daddy, don't kill my last horsie!" - "Don't worry, I just shot the rider, the horse is fine"). In the middle of painting them right now (the figures, not the girls) and they are helping me ("I want a horse like Flicka", "More black horses, that one with a white blaze on it's noze", "No such thing as a green horse, Dad", etc.) and they even talked me into horseshoes on the raised hooves! May even try the family tartan on the dwarve's kilts.

The fun factor is the thing (as with all DoW games), not extreme strategy and competition, which are there if you need it.
      
*player29746
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Re:counters or figures Mon, 22 January 2007 21:35
Captain_Wiley wrote on Mon, 22 January 2007 13:32



The figures are half the reason for getting the game. My kids, all girls, would have no enticement to play with square cardboard counters, and neither would I anymore ("Daddy, don't kill my last horsie!" - "Don't worry, I just shot the rider, the horse is fine"). In the middle of painting them right now (the figures, not the girls) and they are helping me ("I want a horse like Flicka",


I agree. If the pieces were only cardboard counters, the following would be true:

No one would paint them (painting cardboard squares? That would be silly... and obsessive)

The visual effect would not be what it is Even with painted cardboard pieces).

I would not bother with the tiny remote control devices to move the units because who wants to see cardboard squares move across the board "by themselves"?

Your girls know who "Flicka" is? "My Friend Flcka" must be on reruns somewhere. I bet my kids are older than yours and I doubt they know who Flicka is.
      
Captain_Wiley
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Re:counters or figures Tue, 23 January 2007 23:33
A new Flicka feature film came out just this Thanksgiving. Very well done, too. Between runs at the moment.

Seriously, though, it's the figures and the beautiful simplicity of the mechanics that sold the game to me. Love Memoir '44, but just as I can't get the kids to watch The Longest Day, I can't get them too excited over the game. They humor me, though, as they go and beat me. Conversely, they can't get enough of Narnia or LOTR, so BattleLore is a much easier sell. And they still beat me.

The joy of flicking over a hill giant when you kill him, sound effects included, beats any benefit of counters or tiles, etc., for me. The price is great for what you get, but it would be way too much if you didn't get or use the figures.
      
XLVII
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Re:counters or figures Wed, 24 January 2007 00:27
I wouldn't of bought or even looked at BattleLore if it wasn't for the figures. My dad has this very old ww2 game called 'squad leader' and they use little cardboard tokens to represent the soldiers. I played it once and got so board at looking at crappy pieces of card board Evil or Very Mad DoW has done an excellent job with the 210+ figures all ready to go Very Happy

      
mbover
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Re:counters or figures Wed, 24 January 2007 09:23
I guess I'm the only one the. It just seems the figures are a pain to sort out and store.

Now if arkham horror had some figures that would be sweet.
      
Captain_Wiley
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Re:counters or figures Wed, 24 January 2007 15:48
mbover:

For storage, there is a large discussion on storing the figures here: http://www.daysofwonder.com/index.php?t=msg&th=8988& start=0&rid=198259&S=b995db91e44585b1db57550d742c980 1. I don't go that far. I keep all my M44 and BattleLore figures (except for the flag holders which stay in the holders they came in) in plastic boxes made by Plano, which I got at Meijer (Target?, Wallyworld?) for about $3 each. They are not the fishing tackle boxes, but the ones found in the hardware dept. for misc. nuts and bolts, with adjustable dividers, so you can organize by type and have enough room for them to sit flat, easily retrieved. I think this is the one I use: http://www.planomolding.com/content/index.cfm?siteaction=pro duct&lineid=2&groupid=12&sectionid=37&partid =50 Deep enough for all of them to stand up straight. It's not perfect, but good enough. All of Battlelore fits into 1 1/2 boxes (room for the next expansion).

XLVII:

I bought Squad Leader as a kid, along with a host of other Avalon Hill games (Submarine! Tactics II, Blitzkreig, etc.). Kept thinking the next one would keep my interest, but was not to be. Not to mention you might get 4 scenarios in the rules if you were lucky. Good to know it's not just me. Thank you, Days of Wonder!
      
    
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