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Wildfire2099
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World TTR League - Sign up and rules Thu, 20 November 2008 21:03
It's here!!

There are the tentative rules and set up for the upcoming League, as discussed in the "Something New after Nation's Cup" Thread. If you'd like to voice any further opinions on the set up, or as a question, feel free to do so there.. I'd like to keep this thread JUST for sign up, so it'll be nice and easy for me to keep track of. Sign up is open until Jan. 3rd, and is open to anyone, regardless of rating, you just have to be a registered user (i.e not a guest)


1) You're committing to play one series of matches per week for 8-10 weeks (depending on the amount of signups). If you're gone for a week or two, you will be able to make it up later, as long as you inform me and your scheduled opponents. The week's matches will be posted Sunday night, starting on Jan. 4th. IF you anticipate an issue and need you games in advance, I will consider doing so.

2) When you sign up, you should indiciate what your prefered time to play is. There are two choices: Euro evenings(early afternoon in the states) or American Evenings(wee hours in Europe). This is simply to make it easier to schedule the match. Once your match for the week is posted, you should contact your opponent to set up the match. Hopefully, this will alevaite some of the scheduling issues that come up.

3) Players will be divided into group based on their composite rating on the 4th. I'm currently picturing 3 groups for each time choice, but that may change based on sign up.

4) Each match will be 7 games... you play all 7, regardless of the score in the series. Ties are fine. Standings will be first by Match Records, then by game record. Ties will be settled by head to head result. If head to head was a tie, we'll got to points scored head to head, then a coin flip. Unless BOTH players say otherwise, the 1st seven games I see on your history once the match is announced will be the ones that count. Standard etiquette applies. If there's any controversy with bots or anything along those lines, I will render a judgement based on the facts at hand.

5) the top two finishers in each division will go up a division, the bottom two will drop one.... there will be re-ceding as necessary to accomodate players leaving. New players coming in after the 1st season will start in the lowest league of their chosen time period.

6) There will be a 'champion's battle' among the winners of each division (gotta have bragging rights)

7) If a player has to leave mid-season, either a replacement will be found, or the players games will be nullified, depending what point in the season it happens, and it's impact on the other players.



      
Nemo_
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Re:World TTR League - Sign up and rules Thu, 20 November 2008 21:25
I am in.

Prefered time is Euro evenings.

Something else i should put?
      
Wildfire2099
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Re:World TTR League - Sign up and rules Thu, 20 November 2008 21:29
Nope, that covers it Smile
      
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Re:World TTR League - Sign up and rules Thu, 20 November 2008 21:41
sign me up.
preferred time is American evening, but I have a job that allows flexibility in my schedule. So either division is fine.

(so maybe 3 choices: Euro Evening, American Evening, Either)

And Wildfire, on the other link, set up the rules as amended from comments in top line of that link. Easier to find that way. I am still unsure of the scoring rules and the way people change leagues with new people added.

[Updated on: Thu, 20 November 2008 21:46]

      
Wildfire2099
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Re:World TTR League - Sign up and rules Thu, 20 November 2008 21:50
Flexibility is good... feel free to indiciate that Smile

I'm not sure what you mean on the linking.... you mean a link to the other discussion?

      
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Re:World TTR League - Sign up and rules Thu, 20 November 2008 23:09
As you probably expected, I'm in.

Euro evenings or weekends preferred, occasional Euro nights would also be OK (as long as all games of a match are played in one sequence).

      
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Re:World TTR League - Sign up and rules Fri, 21 November 2008 00:23
I'm in too Smile

Euro evenings or weekends are also my option.
      
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Re:World TTR League - Sign up and rules Fri, 21 November 2008 06:30
In!

Euro evenings, please.
      
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Re:World TTR League - Sign up and rules Fri, 21 November 2008 09:42
In.
Euro Evening.
      
Goscha
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Re:World TTR League - Sign up and rules Fri, 21 November 2008 10:00
No Message Body

[Updated on: Fri, 21 November 2008 10:01]

      
*+Dennis+
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Re:World TTR League - Sign up and rules Sat, 22 November 2008 08:43
I am in too. Europe evenings from January onwards...till then American evenings...

MM

[Updated on: Sat, 22 November 2008 08:43]

      
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Re:World TTR League - Sign up and rules Sat, 22 November 2008 10:44
I am in too Smile
My prefered time is Euro evening, on weekends i should have also more flexibility to play.

It would be nice if there is a new year starting and a new period of tournaments, that the starting problem could be fixed. As everyone knows this is a really deciding fact, espacially when u have the top leaugue, where are all players in, with very good skillz. I know DOW is working for that, but its unsure if they will be able to install this tool until the beginning of the next year.

Here is my proposal, how it could be handeled in this, and other following tournamnet sessions:
In the FED-Cup, it is usual, that there is a choice for a restart, if one of the teams has a doublestart. Why not also handling it this way in other tournaments.
Game 1 player A starts -> Game 2 player B start, and so on. Game 7 will than be randomized who starts, so u can at least be sure, that if u play the full 7 games, every player had at least 3 starts. If someone wons before. It could also also be handeled, that u can decide after the ticketchoice, for a restart or not. If u think ur tix are ok, so that u dont care for not starting, the game can be played.

Game 1: player A starts
Game 2: player B starts (not starting at the beginning but says he can compansate not-starting)
Game 3 Player A start

and so on.....

maybe i get some other thoughts towards this Wink

greeTz schwen
      
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Re:World TTR League - Sign up and rules Sat, 22 November 2008 10:57
i'm IN of course
euro evenings
weekends also a possibility

      
Marschall Vorwärts
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Re:World TTR League - Sign up and rules Sat, 22 November 2008 11:10

I'm in. Euro evenings are fine for me.

I hope not only the US map is considered. Very Happy
      
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Re:World TTR League - Sign up and rules Sat, 22 November 2008 13:18
and a YESSSSSSSSSSS from me Very Happy
Euro evenings and weekends.....

Unlucky to the EU map Marschall Rolling Eyes
      
Wildfire2099
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Re:World TTR League - Sign up and rules Mon, 24 November 2008 22:27
10 sign ups so far... very heavily in the Euro time zone..

to answer a couple questions (and to have a post to remind myself where I left off)


- If the ability to choose who goes first is available when we start up in Jan., we will most definately use it... 3 for each person, with the last one being random, would be the most likely scenario. Otherwise, it'll have to just be random. I think doing some sort re-start thing is more trouble than it's worth... It'll all work out in the end.

-- I'd be happy to set up a Euro map league too, or perhaps do some sort of combined thing, but I'd like to get the logistics down first Smile

-- So far, all the people who have signed up are VERY good players... those of you in the 1400 and 1500s are welcome too Smile
      
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  Re:World TTR League - Sign up and rules Wed, 26 November 2008 15:23
Great idea! I´m in (if you have a place for me...)
Cool
      
SMP-bassie
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Re:World TTR League - Sign up and rules Wed, 26 November 2008 21:25
Hi Wildfire,

Your idea deserves many participants. I'm in!

cu, bas
      
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Re:World TTR League - Sign up and rules Thu, 27 November 2008 12:09
I am in too, of course.

Euro evenings for me.
      
Wildfire2099
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Re:World TTR League - Sign up and rules Tue, 02 December 2008 18:10
Just a little Post-holiday bump Smile

      
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Re:World TTR League - Sign up and rules Tue, 02 December 2008 19:25
I am in too.

Euro evenings for me.
      
Hecki
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Re:World TTR League - Sign up and rules Tue, 02 December 2008 20:12
Count me in.

Euro evenings would be fine.

Greetings,
SPEEDY Hecki
      
Mason68
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Re:World TTR League - Sign up and rules Tue, 02 December 2008 20:58
Hi

I am in too. Great Idea.


Euro evenings!

Cheers

Mason

[Updated on: Tue, 02 December 2008 20:58]

      
AKM United
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Re:World TTR League - Sign up and rules Wed, 03 December 2008 22:29
Hi,

count me in, too.
Thanks for organizing events like this Smile
Euro evenings.

Ronaldo

[Updated on: Wed, 03 December 2008 22:30]

      
UEG xbomanx
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Re:World TTR League - Sign up and rules Thu, 04 December 2008 01:38
Hi Wildfire,

Great idea to start a league in new year.
Im in too. Smile

Euro evenings and weekend alltime are fine for me.

Hope many of players sign up to realise this.
      
Tyrana
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Re:World TTR League - Sign up and rules Thu, 04 December 2008 05:21
Sounds like great fun. Please count me in! Euro evenings (early afternoon in the states) are best for me. Rolling Eyes Pom poms wavin' Very Happy I guess i should practice more. Shocked

[Updated on: Thu, 04 December 2008 05:23]

      
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Re:World TTR League - Sign up and rules Thu, 04 December 2008 21:19
I,m in sounds great and thanks for doing this.
Euro times or weekends are fine.
Let the wagons roleeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
Speedy Very Happy
      
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Re:World TTR League - Sign up and rules Thu, 04 December 2008 23:13
Sounds good - i have a slight preference for american evenings - looking forward to it.
      
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Re:World TTR League - Sign up and rules Fri, 05 December 2008 00:45
I'm interested and flexible on time... just put me in the group with the easier players so I can be at the top of the ladder and make myself feel special...LOL.

Is it possible to be in both time groups.... Razz

[Updated on: Fri, 05 December 2008 00:46]

      
Wildfire2099
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Re:World TTR League - Sign up and rules Fri, 05 December 2008 03:56
Up to 23 people signed up Smile

Due to popular demand, I think I'm gonna forget about having different time zones... I agree with those who said the best should just play the best. If scheduling issues arise, we can always re-consider.

      
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Re:World TTR League - Sign up and rules Fri, 05 December 2008 04:58
I'm in.

Suggest you delegate authority. One league chair to settle disputes, and group secretaries to record results. Better yet, have a set of three co-chairs. By the way, are the French allowed in this league? Twisted Evil
      
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Re:World TTR League - Sign up and rules Fri, 05 December 2008 12:10
Me too.

stemayf
      
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Re:World TTR League - Sign up and rules Fri, 05 December 2008 15:57
To Schwen:

Just to point it out...I am totally against Schwen's proposal.

There is a lot of luck in tickets and locos involved in the game as everybody knows. To present a "restart option" to the player who does not start the 2nd game (by coincident) when it would be "his or her turn" to start is ridiculous.

People will always use this possibility if their tickets do not please them regardless if they care to start or not.

BTW: Instead of inventing all these new rules, Schwen, you should (as the freshly crowned NC 2008 winner) write to DoW and FINALLY after almost 2 YEARS of waiting for it convince them to install the "change startplayer" option...after all we are paying customers. And the service by DoW for that long awaited option is awful, to put it mildly. DoW just does not seem to care for an update and they probably need some incentive beyond the petition that already exists. It might help when 200 to 500 players agreed to send an individual short pm or e-mail to DoW asking for rapid change. This might make an impression. We might consider starting a thread where we name a certain time when every player who is interested in that kind of update writes to DoW...they might not ignore a few hundreds of requests...every request is multiplied at least by the factor 20 (usually) as for every person who stating a certain request, there are at least 20 others who have the same request but do not bother writing.

Greetings

MM Dennis

[Updated on: Fri, 05 December 2008 16:06]

      
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Re:World TTR League - Sign up and rules Fri, 05 December 2008 16:02
Oh please.

DOW (Brice) has said sooo many times, that they will release a new version asap. There will be lots of new things eg. from wishlist, which will make playing more fun.

And Im quite sure Schwen would had write to DOW, if they wouldnt already know the situation.

One of the new things will be better ignore list, so I dont see messages in lobby from those people who I have in ignore, and they also cant join to my game. So dont onder why some people might not hear you after that...

[Updated on: Fri, 05 December 2008 16:05]

      
*+Dennis+
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Re:World TTR League - Sign up and rules Fri, 05 December 2008 16:11
LOL Zimo,

as soon as possible??!!!

After almost 2 years I do not really believe that. ASAP probably means in another 2 to 3 years.

And it is sad that new options will lead to more player exclusion and discrimination. I have noone on my ignore list and invite anyone to play in my games as you know...but I might consider "ignoring" Starrygirl...lol...she constantly sends rings to me in the lobby at times which can be quite unnerving.

MM Dennis

[Updated on: Fri, 05 December 2008 16:12]

      
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Re:World TTR League - Sign up and rules Fri, 05 December 2008 19:31
WORLD TTR LEAGUE THREAD ;)talk about issues related no?

Wildfire how a about a list of all players signed in? that can be update. for convenience of all that want to see who's playing or not.
      
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Re:World TTR League - Sign up and rules Fri, 05 December 2008 23:35
I put one up on the ticki at

http://www.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de/~erps/tickipedia/inde x.php/World_TTR_League_Current_Members

along with a proto rules section at

http://www.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de/~erps/tickipedia/inde x.php/World_TTR_League_Rules

      
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Re:World TTR League - Sign up and rules Fri, 05 December 2008 23:42
You rock Zeno Smile


I was going to say I'd post a list, but clearly that's not necessary Smile


@ MM: I thought I answered this, but in case I didn't:

For the League, IF the functionality to choose the 1st player is ready by then, the official rule will be alternating 1st player for the 1st 6 games, with the 7th being random. I definately do NOT think it's a good idea to start re-starting and such... too confusing.

      
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Re:World TTR League - Sign up and rules Fri, 05 December 2008 23:46
Zeno wrote on Thu, 04 December 2008 22:58

I'm in.

Suggest you delegate authority. One league chair to settle disputes, and group secretaries to record results. Better yet, have a set of three co-chairs. By the way, are the French allowed in this league? Twisted Evil


I don't think that'll be necessary... though if you're volunteering, assistance on getting stuff on the wiki would be most appreciated Wink

I'm probably not gonna play for now, to make sure everything goes smooth, so it'll be fine.

The French are most definately allowed.. we take all comers here, someone's gotta be at the bottom.

Twisted Evil
      
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Re:World TTR League - Sign up and rules Sat, 06 December 2008 17:26
Great idea

I'm in

Euro nights

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