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Xaykev
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Anyone played the game? Opinions? Wed, 28 March 2007 19:16
I would like to hear what you think about the game.

Take care Razz
      
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Re:Anyone played the game? Opinions? Wed, 28 March 2007 20:01
Played our first game yesterday. 4 players, 2 hours.

The game is easy to play without much downtime. A little too light for our taste, so it will probably not see much play. But it seemed to be good family game.

There was too much luck in the appearence of Asset tiles, so it wasn't as much a question of planning what to perform, but figuring out what you could perform and then buy that.

Even with four players did the market (where you buy/hire Assets) seem to be too large. We had very bidding wars as there always was something just as good to acquire - or with a litle luck something even better once the markets filled up again.

We would prefer to have either fewer markets or a change in when they are refilled.

We also had a problem in the way the Nobles moved. You can at most move 2 of the 5 Nobles and they will on average move 4 spaces (not counting Medal movement, which is more likely to move a piece back than forward). This means that the 4th and 5th player is unlikely to meet the Emperor unless these players really focus on moving him. But why try to receive 7 spectators at the end of the game if you can get 3 or 5 several times by trying to concentrate on the ones near you?

Well, one reason could be to move him/they away from the player benefitting from having his grace attending all his spectacles, but it is hard to be one sacrificing himself for the common good instead of maximizing your own crowd of spectators.

In our game did the first player have Caesar for most of the game. Every time someone tried to move him away did he move him back with medals. Maybe we just didn't make a big enough effort, but it didn't seem worth it (and he only came second because he was able to hold a superhuge performance (74 spectators)

All in all a cute game. Very easy to play. No problems with the rules (except a small case I will post in another thread) and it was fun and entertaining all the way through.

Still, we would have preferred a little more 'meat' and a little less luck.

Score after 2 hours:

Red player: 87 spectators
Green : 74 spectators
Yellow : 68 spectators
Purple : 54 spectators (me!)

I didn't pay attention to the reverse sidce of the player aid and ended up buying severaæ tiles that didn't match very well.

That won't happend next time!
Embarassed

Rating after one game: 7/10
(good, but not spectacular. Will play if asked)
      
RichardD
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Re:Anyone played the game? Opinions? Thu, 29 March 2007 16:09
We had a pretty close spread of final points too - 85 and 83 at the top, and everyone within about 15 points. I had posted a big score at the end of the penultimate turn, but it was bettered by three players in the fifth (including me).

The Emperor managed about 1.25 circuits. He might have travelled further but a couple of times in the last two rounds he was sent backwards. A couple of times either he or the consuls made a double-move using both dice. Four out of five of us bought an Emperor's Box in the very first round, which meant we were moving more figures than normal, but the benefit of control and medals suggests that a Box is probably a good move early on. I think that the game is probably balanced to have him do just under one full crcuit in a four-player game.

In a 5-player game, there was alwyas a very strong incentive on the player to the left of the player who had the Emperor as a spectator to move the Emperor - often he was able to attend events in different players' arenas, one straight after the other.

      
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Re:Anyone played the game? Opinions? Thu, 29 March 2007 17:57
Thanks for your answers!
So what would your rating be from 1-10 (Boardgamegeek rating)?
If you have something else to tell I would appreciate to hear it.

Take care Razz Smile
      
coljen
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Re:Anyone played the game? Opinions? Thu, 29 March 2007 18:11
Our group played our first game on tuesday. Only 3 player and there was virtually no bidding wars at all. I think 5 markets is just too much with 3 players as there is always something to go for, especially if the active player wins the bid and the market is refilled. Perhaps there should be fewer markets with less players. Apart from that I enjoyed the game and would like to play it again with 5 players to see if the bidding is more competitive.
      
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Re:Anyone played the game? Opinions? Thu, 29 March 2007 21:46
I've already rated it an "8" on BGG, but that rating could change up or down after a few more plays.

There was often lively bidding in th emarket for some of the items, and no interest at all in others. Sometimes players would prefer to negotiate to get exactly the right assets.

I didn't read the rules too closely for the changes in a 3-player game, but all 5 markets are still used? Hmmm. I can see how that might lead to a whole lot less bidding.
      
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Re:Anyone played the game? Opinions? Fri, 30 March 2007 11:21
RichardD wrote on Thu, 29 March 2007 21:46


I didn't read the rules too closely for the changes in a 3-player game, but all 5 markets are still used? Hmmm. I can see how that might lead to a whole lot less bidding.

Yep. The only changes is where the Arenas are placed during set-up.

Not only are all 5 markets used in 4- or 3-player game, but they are all refilled when the active player gets the lot he put on auction.

Unless there are something really spectacular on display there really is little reason not to let the auction player take the lot he wants (maybe with a slight increase, if you dare).

Because chances are that the next lot(s) will be more suited for you - or at least not worse. Being last is a huge advantage in this auction - even greater than in Power Grid!
      
Xaykev
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Re:Anyone played the game? Opinions? Fri, 30 March 2007 15:24
To me this doesn't sound good at all.
What about the tension then??
This seems pretty dull, but I hope I'm wrong Confused
      
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Re:Anyone played the game? Opinions? Fri, 30 March 2007 16:29
I've played the game about 50 times, and being part of DoW I cannot give you my feeling on the game, of course I enjoy it a lot.

You cannot have less than 5 markets otherwise the choices are too limited. As the game develops some markets become always very demanded and bidding is tense. It is true to say that the more players the more tension as in many other games. I do not remember having a complete flat auction phase as Mik describes.

Mik said:
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I didn't pay attention to the reverse sidce of the player aid and ended up buying severaæ tiles that didn't match very well.


That could be the reason there was no bidding tension as he did not pay attention to what tiles he needed Confused

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Re:Anyone played the game? Opinions? Fri, 30 March 2007 16:47
Pierre wrote on Fri, 30 March 2007 16:29


Mik said:
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I didn't pay attention to the reverse sidce of the player aid and ended up buying severaæ tiles that didn't match very well.


That could be the reason there was no bidding tension as he did not pay attention to what tiles he needed Confused

Pierre@DoW


Could have been - but wasn't.
1st round I went after the Assets to make the best of my two shows.
I admit to be making a poor investment during the 2nd round. I just went for what I believed to be the best deal - without paying attention to the fact that some Assets doesn't work well together. In the other 3 rounds I believe I got the best deal available to make the best show affordable and still available.

Knowing what is still in the bag and what has alredy gone there is little reason to go after mix of Assets you don't particular need when you know chances are you will be offered something better - especially when you know that all markets are being refilled if the active player will win her bid.

As I see it there are two options:
a) I deliberately try to up the price or to prevent a player from acquiring the Assets she needs.

b) I go for the Assets I believe will help me the most. If someone tries to prevent me from that, I will judge if it worth it to increase my bid, or whether there is something almost as good on the board.

Taking route a) will only hurt myself and the player who wanted those Assets. The other 2 or 3 players would be better off because of our 'fight'.
      
benrahe
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  Re:Anyone played the game? Opinions? Tue, 12 June 2007 22:59
I just played for the first time last night with total of five people. It took about two hours (mostly due to reading rules and getting acclamated to play/rounds). We all thought it was a lot of fun and will definitly play again. We are huge Ticket to Ride fans and will probably watch for all new DOW games now.
      
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Re:Anyone played the game? Opinions? Wed, 13 June 2007 18:05
My only issue is the length of the game.

In our game a total of 2 medals were ever given, so it doesn't seem like the option of multiple investments come up very often.

So if you expand your arena twice, and get two programs, you only get one more expenditure for the game. Is this the way it was intended?

I ended up with low purchased programs, because I hadn't purchased the second arena expansion and couldn't produce a larger event. My 5 purchases (in order) were:

1.) Season Ticket
2.) Expanded Arena
3.) New Event Program
4.) New Event Program
5.) Season Ticket

If you want to expand your arena to handle the largest events, you pretty much can only purchase one new event. (or get nothing else) I never even looked at the Emperors Loge, as it didn't even seem to be an option.

Perhaps this was the plan behind the game. Maybe you can win but putting on a small event with 3 season tickets and the Emperor's Loge. But it seems like the best chance of winning is to put on the biggest event in the largest arena you can. If that's so, you basically have 1 round to buy anything other than programs and arena expansions.

[Updated on: Wed, 13 June 2007 18:06]

      
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Re:Anyone played the game? Opinions? Thu, 14 June 2007 02:55
If you buy the Emperor's Loge early, you essentially double your chance of getting Medals.

In all of my games so far (not many yet) I've managed to get an extra build in.
      
keltheos
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Re:Anyone played the game? Opinions? Thu, 14 June 2007 22:45
The Emperor's Loge is a great early-game buy. Not only does it give you better access to the medals but also access to additional spectators and isn't fixed like a season ticket.

I'm enjoying the heck out of this game and although it was a surprise how few things you were able to accomplish during a turn the depth of your options balances it out nicely.

I never was one for resource management games, but this one's grabbed my interest.

What I would like to see is after the 5th phase each turn the Emperor is moved 1 die forward to keep him rolling around the board. On the 1-3 result, its always a 3. If he lands on a medal nobody gets it.

In our 3-player games he never does make it to the 3rd player, and in the 5-player games he's made it there about 25% of the time.

That would be my only gripe, but the 4th and 5th players were pretty good at keeping a consul and senator close to their coleseums for quick points.
      
    
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