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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Tue, 02 August 2011 17:11
So, I don't know if it's time to start a Brig. General thread. Very Happy I keep hoping for an update...but I'm guessing sometime this week or next.

Just to keep you up to date on my record as a Lt. Colonel and so we can start tracking for Brig. Gen., here are my current victory totals.

Axis
Eastern 24
Western 31
Pacific 11
Med 17
Total 83

Allies
Eastern 14
Western 32
Pacific 15
Med 15
Total 76

Total Victories/Games Played: 159/257

So, my winning percentage has gone down. Confused But it's not surprising as I was playing Rzhev almost exclusively for the last few days. And I finally obtained the Axis Aces High award after much effort. Thanks to johnhill8243 for being a great sport -- he saw what I was trying to do, but had no cards to play on the right. I had set it up, but didn't have Air Power. As the medal count got higher, I finally drew the card and got the four kills. I then barely pulled out the victory, but it was a great game and a worthy opponent.

So, I've won all the scenarios again (except for jdrommel's) as a Colonel and have earned almost all the achievements (except for DoW, Fly You Fools, and the others that nobody has earned).

Now, I can play for fun! Laughing

Geoff

      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Tue, 02 August 2011 17:17
NOW you can start playing for fun?

So whaddya been playing for up to now? (grin)

Congratulations on all of your many victories and on your accumulation of more decorations than the xmas tree at rockefeller center....

Play on MacDuff, Play on, and damned be him who first cries 'enough'!
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Tue, 02 August 2011 17:29
Grandviceroy wrote on Tue, 02 August 2011 11:17

NOW you can start playing for fun?

So whaddya been playing for up to now? (grin)

Congratulations on all of your many victories and on your accumulation of more decorations than the xmas tree at rockefeller center....

Play on MacDuff, Play on, and damned be him who first cries 'enough'!



Thanks for the congrats...I'm not sure I can recommend trying for the Axis Aces High award -- it was very difficult and frustrating at times. But Rzhev is definitely the best place to try for it -- Axis have six cards to four for the Russians (not to mention the commissar), the Russians are against the backline in all three sections, and once wounded those units are reluctant to move across the frozen river. I played all my recons as soon as possible to try to get Air Power and weakened the infantry to one figure before I drew it. Everything went my way, so I was very lucky...

But who am I kidding, it was fun to chase that one (and all the others). I really enjoy the strategic twist that the awards put on the game -- especially for the commando ones, air power, Wittman, and the Arnhem Christmas tree that was previously available. You really have to try to set these up to earn them (although the commando infantry was more difficult when you had to earn it at Arnhem...).

Geoff

[Updated on: Tue, 02 August 2011 17:30]

      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Tue, 02 August 2011 17:39
Chasing ribbons is a game in itself, and after playing every scenario a couple of times it is nice to have some little easter egg hunt as an added incentive to play the scenario.

Also, while rating and points can jump and fall precipitously (i dropped from 1716 and 33rd place to 1604 and 244th in one weekend after losing 7 out of 10, many of them to lower ranks than i) your officer rank stay solid.

so you could lose 100 games and still be a colonel..testament to past glories, long service and due dilligence...so it is nice that there is something out there to chase....

...not that playing for fun isn't enough for most of us, but it still adds a bit to your day when after the dust settles the computer says you have won something....it is like that gold star from the kindergarten teacher for putting your pants back on the right facing way....

      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Tue, 02 August 2011 21:48
As gheintze provided his update here's my career as a Colonel update:

I've completed my 3rd set of victories as both in every scenario, this set including "[Normandy] Battle of Tilly-Sur-Seulles".
First before I was a Lt. Col, the second as Lt. Col. and now the 3rd as Colonel.

In getting this third set I dropped from about 1800 points to about 1700 points going from about #5 to about #100.

As Colonel I've played 302 times won 199 66%,
Axis 156 played 100 won 64%
Allies 146 played won 99 68%
I haven't analysed these by front.

Some of the harder sides in the harder scenarios I won at the first attempt, some of the much "easier" victories to much longer. Thanks to all my worthy opponents.

I haven't got all the medals I can yet - perhaps that is something for me to chase.

[Updated on: Tue, 02 August 2011 21:50]

      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Thu, 04 August 2011 00:46
Finally made it to Colonel today - number 12 I think!

Don't know my overall stats, I was simply working through all the scenarios to make sure I'd won them all. Beating CrewcutJim at Bir Hakehim was the winning line. I was going to look at my stats once I'd won all of the scenarios.

Unfortunately I didn't notice I'd been promoted - no fanfare or dancing girls! I thought I still had to win at Sidi Omar.

I've really quite enjoyed going back through all the different scenarios - some I've hardly played in months. Some of the hardest on paper were the easiest to win, some of the easier surprisingly difficult.

I hope DoW carry on with these side quests - I enjoy playing for fun, but sometimes it's nice to have a target to focus on, and a reason to play different scenarios.

      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Thu, 04 August 2011 02:43
Congratulations to southoftheborder!

Who will be next?

Geoff
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Thu, 04 August 2011 03:07
Congratulations from me as well. You earned your bird, now just don't go flipping it...

Who will be next? Good question. From what I've seen, I expect the floodgates to open. Soon.

Who will earn their first star? And how? And where is the staff of DOW? Now those are questions to which I have no answer...
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Thu, 04 August 2011 07:48
Congratulations to Colonel #12 Colonel southoftheborder and welcome to the Colonel's club. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
Drinks are on you until #13 arrives. Laughing Laughing Laughing

Onwards an upwards. Hopefully we will soon have hints about getting to Brigadier.

      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Thu, 04 August 2011 20:04
Interesting read on this whole promotion theory thread. I'm betting that the General promotions will probably require the addition of new scenarios and having played them as well.

I'm also going to go out on a limb and bet they'll eventually add overlord and breakthough maps to the online game. You'll have to be the general in these scenarios to get credit towards general ranking.

[Updated on: Thu, 04 August 2011 20:24]

      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Thu, 11 August 2011 00:23
Congratulations to lucky #13 Colonel Jokull and welcome to the Colonel's club.

There is plenty of room in the club. Make yourself comfortable and enjoy as the priveledges that your new rank brings. Very Happy Very Happy
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Thu, 11 August 2011 04:13
Happy as a kite!

But here is my summary...

Win every scenario, did that a long time ago.

Play Cadets.

Played a $hitload but no dice.

Started playing badly to give them a maximum chance.

Went down from 1810 points to 1610 but lost a few games and in one I was finally promoted.

Mind you I never exactly threw a game, but I played aiming at outpreforming and loosing on the last medal.

Against opponents that played poorly I simply won.

But I have a feeling that,

Quote:

But the capacity to train new Cadets into Combat is what makes a true leader!


Means you must loose a few games or at least not steamroller them.

To support this theory I had won every game from both sides when only 1 player had this rank already and the ones you would suspect should have passed are all high scorers and they simply don't loose enough.

Look up the scores, there are plenty of 1800+ players and NONE are Colonels yet.

Anyway it is just my theory.

[Updated on: Thu, 11 August 2011 04:20]

      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Thu, 11 August 2011 13:01
Congratulations & welcome to the club - hope #13 isn't too unlucky Smile

I didn't share your problem - I lost tons of games in my quest to make Colonel. Unlike most, I actually won the game I gained promotion!
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Thu, 11 August 2011 13:12
Whether you are correct or not Jokull, I am doing my best to win.
Laughing Laughing Laughing

But some folks who are cadets (first timers to Memoir'44 Online) are by no means "virgins" to the game and will show you a thing or two.

I have had this LEARNING EXPERIENCE while trying to move up in the ranks. Thanks to all my novice opponents who have not been intimidated by rank and have shown me some humility. Meaning of course that they were not only nice guys, but humbled me by their superior play and planning.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Thu, 11 August 2011 13:37
southoftheborder wrote on Thu, 11 August 2011 11:01

Congratulations & welcome to the club - hope #13 isn't too unlucky Smile

I didn't share your problem - I lost tons of games in my quest to make Colonel. Unlike most, I actually won the game I gained promotion!


That is probably because you needed the win to win all scenarios, I know you said you had one left, but could that be a scenario that is new?

My findings are aimed at those who win almost every time and have long since completed every mission but do not get promoted.

I thought too I would pick up enough games with Cadets on the way but no.

As for #13, it is just one of life's many numbers.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Thu, 11 August 2011 15:09
I just can't believe that you have to lose to get promoted...

But congrats to Jokull...hopefully we'll get to 14 quickly. Very Happy

I really hope the next update is coming soon. Smile

Geoff
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Thu, 11 August 2011 15:19
When I gained promotion, I thought I still had to win Dug in at Sidi Omar as the Allies.

I also hadn't won in Tunisia, Lisyanka and Rzhev, but I guessed that they were some of the newer scenarios.

PS I still haven't won Rzhev as the allies Embarassed
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Thu, 11 August 2011 15:22
The only way I've found to win Rzhev as the Russians is to be very aggressive. It doesn't matter which section, but you have to make a focused, sustained attack there. It keeps the Germans busy and away from the other vulnerable sections and it is the only way to get medals by forcing the Germans out of cover. If you can get the medal on the left even better.

Geoff
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Thu, 11 August 2011 19:07
gheintze wrote on Thu, 11 August 2011 13:09

I just can't believe that you have to lose to get promoted...


A lot of you did get promoted the same game you L O S T

and I am betting (and see I got promoted) that it was against a Cadet.

I had even taken it further that it had to be when the Cadet got promoted to 2. lt but I can say for sure that is not it.

But of course, we shall probably never know for sure.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Thu, 11 August 2011 20:07
Jokull wrote on Thu, 11 August 2011 19:07

gheintze wrote on Thu, 11 August 2011 13:09

I just can't believe that you have to lose to get promoted...


A lot of you did get promoted the same game you L O S T

and I am betting (and see I got promoted) that it was against a Cadet.

I had even taken it further that it had to be when the Cadet got promoted to 2. lt but I can say for sure that is not it.

But of course, we shall probably never know for sure.


That makes it neigh impossible to become a Colonel! I don't plan on loosing at all!
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Thu, 11 August 2011 20:44
I got promoted after a loss, but against a Major.

Stevie
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Fri, 12 August 2011 16:50
what about with the skillpoint?
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Fri, 12 August 2011 16:59
I don't believe the skillpoint is relevant to promotion as much as specific victories in specific theaters of operations. To date all those who have collected data have found these to be the most reliable indicators.
You will find in the list of those with the highest skillpoints not necessarily those with the most promotions.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Mon, 15 August 2011 07:53
ScreamingEagle wrote on Thu, 04 August 2011 14:04

Interesting read on this whole promotion theory thread. I'm betting that the General promotions will probably require the addition of new scenarios and having played them as well.

I'm also going to go out on a limb and bet they'll eventually add overlord and breakthough maps to the online game. You'll have to be the general in these scenarios to get credit towards general ranking.


Online Overlord sounds like fun!! There's the way to train the kiddies (cadets). I reckon you might even need your 3 Band of Brothers to help out. If you're just a Sectional Commander, though, would a win for your side count towards your normal promotion?
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Tue, 16 August 2011 01:04
So, Jokull, 15 wins as each side in each theater, spread over a range (but perhaps not all) scenarios, + 250 games min. as Lt. Col. -- this did not do it for you?

I also find it hard to believe that we would need to lose to cadets to gain promotion.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Thu, 18 August 2011 19:08
I tried to achieve the promotion before I ran out of gold ingots, but I did not. No big deal but I will be taking a break from the game for awhile, so it feels like a good time to contribute, for the sake of others chasing promotion, what I see in my record.

Wound up with these numbers - since promotion to Lt. Col.

Eastern: 17 wins as Allies, 18 as Axis
Mediterranean: 17 / 24
Pacific: 16 / 16
Western: 28 / 27 (cadets are much more likely to accept Western invites)

total games 278

Training cadets -- that's rough on the skill rating, as others have noted.

I won nearly all sides. The exceptions do not seem to be special cases - Flanking Maneuver as Allies, First Armored as Axis, the scenarios that were known to be excluded from the counting for Lt. Col.

Not sure what's going on but maybe you all will figure it out before I return in some weeks.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Thu, 18 August 2011 19:34
I won every mission from both sides including all the new ones and nothing happened.

I played a lot of cadets

nothing happened

I played to train (not to win) and voila
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Thu, 18 August 2011 19:59
At least six cadets were promoted to 2LT immediately after "getting trained" -- in just the last 30 or so games, when I was paying attention and counting.

Sounds like I need to clean up those missing sides. I thought I read that some were promoted without every side -- maybe some sides are more important than others.

[Updated on: Thu, 18 August 2011 20:00]

      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Thu, 18 August 2011 20:08
Henry Pelham wrote on Thu, 18 August 2011 13:59

At least six cadets were promoted to 2LT immediately after "getting trained" -- in just the last 30 or so games, when I was paying attention and counting.

Sounds like I need to clean up those missing sides. I thought I read that some were promoted without every side -- maybe some sides are more important than others.


Enjoy your break, Henry. Smile

I've always enjoyed playing against you, so I look forward to your return.

I think the mediterranean ones that you missed are the crucial component. They've been online for some time, so they probably count.

I still can't believe that you have to lose to get promoted. There is some number that we haven't put our fingers on -- games played, win totals, games against different ranks, etc...

Having to throw games to cadets just seems so wrong...

Geoff
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sat, 20 August 2011 02:39
Welcome the newest Colonel to the club.
Played my 250th battle tonight.

1. Won ALL the scenarios from both sides (including new ones).
2. Won at least 15 games on each side in each theater
3. Over the course of my battles as Lt. Col. was defeated by 6 cadets as they won their promotion to 2nd Lt.

Think I am going to take a nap.... Laughing

[Updated on: Sat, 20 August 2011 02:40]

      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sat, 20 August 2011 02:43
Congratulations Stevens!

Well done. I was wondering when you would get here. Very Happy

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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sat, 20 August 2011 02:56
Thanks for the warm welcome.
It was just a matter of geting the 250 games in for me as all the other things have fallen into place in the last week.

Nap time ....ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sat, 20 August 2011 05:06
stevens wrote on Sat, 20 August 2011 12:39

Welcome the newest Colonel to the club.
Played my 250th battle tonight.

Think I am going to take a nap.... Laughing


Congratulations to Colonel stevens the 14th to reach the heady ranks of Colonel. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

On behalf of the members of the Colonel's club I welcome you to the fellowship. Cool Cool Cool
As the newest member the drinks are on your tab. Laughing Laughing Laughing
Don't forget as the most junior member you still have to obey the order of your more senior officers. Shocked Shocked Shocked
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sat, 20 August 2011 07:09
Dang Phread,

Who voted you general?

Just kidding. Well deserved Stevens. Well deserved everyone.

Now if you'll excuse me, I've got a bit of a thirst...
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sat, 20 August 2011 07:25
jamesherrell wrote on Sat, 20 August 2011 17:09

Dang Phread,

Who voted you general?

Just kidding. Well deserved Stevens. Well deserved everyone.

Now if you'll excuse me, I've got a bit of a thirst...



That will be Sir to you my phriend. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

As first player to Colonel (by all of 5 minutes) I claim seniority - at least for now. Laughing Laughing Laughing Laughing

[Updated on: Sat, 20 August 2011 07:27]

      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sat, 20 August 2011 13:06
Thanks again fellows.
The drinks are on me.

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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sun, 21 August 2011 06:20
Colonel Stevens your shout at the bar is over as we welcome Colonel #15, Colonel bonsey, to the Colonel's Club. Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

Two new Colonels on the same day - but don't worry there's plenty of room left. Laughing Laughing Laughing

Colonel bonsey welcome to the club and it is your shout. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

Feel free to introduce yourself and your career to your fellow officers.

      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sun, 21 August 2011 13:31
Welcome to all our new Colonels.

This sudden rush is making me feel like an old-timer now!

Nice to see all the old names again (and some new ones).

Also noticed that there are currently 7 Colonels in the top 40.

[Updated on: Sun, 21 August 2011 13:35]

      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Mon, 22 August 2011 08:40
The cavalcade of new Colonels continues as we welcome Colonel #16 Colonel JRyan to the Colonel's club. Very Happy Very Happy

Welcome good Sir to the camaraderie of Colonels. Cool Cool Cool
As the newest member it is your shout for your fellow Colonels.

To everyone else there is still copious capacity in the Colonel's Club so come on in. Smile Smile Smile
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Tue, 23 August 2011 21:39
Thanks Geoff. Logged in to check on the online league, and now I'm sneaking in a few as it looks like I'm only a handful of wins away.
      
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