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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Tue, 23 August 2011 21:42
Keep at it Henry!
      
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Congratulations to our newest Colonel! Fri, 26 August 2011 00:30
I'd like to extend congratulations to the newest Colonel, SgtBob49!

He earned his promotion today after a hard fought battle at Red Barricades factory. Bob and I play several times a week, so I know how hard he has worked for this promotion and how frustrated he was at times.

So congrats to Bob for his stick-to-it-iveness! Welcome to the club!

Hopefully, he will stop by to share the specifics of his record and promotion trail.

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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Fri, 26 August 2011 01:46
Congratulations to the two new Colonels (#17 & #18) - Colonel AIwan & Colonel SgtBob49 - two promotions on one day.

Welcome to the Colonel's Club gentlemen and to everyone else there is still plenty of room for all in the club.

[Updated on: Fri, 26 August 2011 01:51]

      
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Re:Congratulations to our newest Colonel! Fri, 26 August 2011 02:55
Thanks Geoff and Phread for welcoming me to the Colonel's club as Colonel No.18! Also Congratulations to Col Alwan No. 17. I am proud to be included with so many good players. Very Happy

To get to the rank of Colonel I had over 200 wins since making Lt Col. Played well over 250 games since becoming a Lt Col, won 15 or more on each side in every theater and won every scenario on both sides including a couple of new ones that are no longer there and also played a lot of cadets most of which were very good as well as players of all other ranks. Cool

My promotion came after winning Red Barricades Factory as the underdog Axis. I know that some players were promoted after a loss and some after a win. I have no explanation for this but I assume DOW has a reason for doing it this way. Surprised

Promotions are great but the best part of MM44 is playing players from all over the world and making a lot of new friends Very Happy


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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Fri, 26 August 2011 10:07
And more congratulations this time to Colonel #19 Colonel Henry Pelham.

Congratulations and welcome to the inclusive fellowship of Colonels.
As the newest member the drinks are on you until the next arrival.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Fri, 26 August 2011 11:10
Congrats to Henry Pelham ... I was hoping to make it before he did Razz ... since I made Lt Col only a few days after he did. But he has been playing more than me these last few days ...
He won the race, without knowing anybody was racing him ... Laughing
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Fri, 26 August 2011 15:02
Great work, Henry!

I'd like to add my congratulations to those above.

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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Fri, 26 August 2011 16:02
Thanks to all -- for the record, I was promoted after I won each side of every available scenario as Lt. Col.

P.S. I will buy all the drinks until we welcome the next Colonel.

[Updated on: Fri, 26 August 2011 16:12]

      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Fri, 26 August 2011 16:13
Henry Pelham wrote on Fri, 26 August 2011 10:02

Thanks to all -- for the record, I was promoted after I won each side of every available scenario as Lt. Col.


There may be a few scenarios that don't count, but it seems well established that winning each scenario from both sides is a good idea to get Colonel. Looks like to me:

1. Win each scenario from both sides (except for some of the newer scenarios, possibly)
2. Play a bunch of cadets
3. Play 250 games (or therabouts)
4. Have 12-15 wins as each side in each front.

And do all of that as a Lt. Colonel. At least this is my recommended starting point for new Lt. Colonels.

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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Fri, 26 August 2011 16:26
gheintze wrote on Fri, 26 August 2011 16:13


1. Win each scenario from both sides (except for some of the newer scenarios, possibly)
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2. Play a bunch of cadets
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3. Play 250 games (or therabouts)
some 20 to 30 games to go
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4. Have 12-15 wins as each side in each front.
check
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And do all of that as a Lt. Colonel. At least this is my recommended starting point for new Lt. Colonels.

Geoff

I hope I'm close by now ...
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Fri, 26 August 2011 16:44
Quit2 wrote on Fri, 26 August 2011 10:26

I hope I'm close by now ...


Looks like you are. Keep playing and you'll get there soon. Smile

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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sat, 27 August 2011 08:27
Congrats Henry, well deserved.

Although I swear I kicked your (rear area) every which way to Tuesday on August 25th, right before you were promoted.

But you were so impeccably polite about it - so welcome to the club!

BTW, please make mine a double. Other than the aforementioned battles with Henry, I've done nothing but lose lately.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sun, 28 August 2011 23:30
I made it.
If my count is right, I'm colonel 20. Drinks are on me in the colonels' lounge until the next colonel arrives.

Clues - when I made colonel:
I won every scenario on both sides since being lt col
I played 237 games since being Lt Col, 518 overall
I played against quite some cadets since being lt col, but have no stats on who won, how many on which fronts etc ... Some of the lesser experienced players were quite a help on winning the difficult scenarios
I have 163 wins since being a lt col, 325 wins total
I have been loosing alot more the last few days ... really alot of bad luck, my rank really plumetted alot because of it.
The promotion game was a WIN against a colonel, but not the first win of that scenario since being lt col. Maybe my first win against a colonel (maybe you need to win against all available ranks - poor guy that need to catch that sole general when that rank becomes available)
Besides that, there doesn't seem to be anything special about that last game, or the games before (a double loss against a major) since sometimes you promote the game after you obtain the criterium.
Other than that, no idea on what triggered promotion.

Hope this helps someone aiming to be a colonel.

Win breakdown since being lt col:
Western: allies 25+/axis 25+
Pacific: allies 15/axis 15
Eastern: allies 20/axis 16
Mediterranean: allies 18/axis 20
And the last win was not reaching 15 in the pacific ... it was eastern front.

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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sun, 28 August 2011 23:41
one more idea: the scenario that made me promote:
The win on both sides I had beforehand: it was in a game and rematch. Maybe you need to win both sides of every scenario against different players.
I also had not played the scenario much before ... maybe it is the one I played least, so maybe you need to play every scenario at least X times ... as part of the "seen it all" in the colonel requirements .... for example: play each scenario at least 5 times and win both sides at least once.

I'm just guessing.

[Updated on: Sun, 28 August 2011 23:43]

      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Mon, 29 August 2011 00:44
Congrats quit2!

Well done. Who will push Phread and I to the third page of the Colonel list? Very Happy

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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Mon, 29 August 2011 01:54
Congratulations to Colonel #20 Colonel Quit2.

Are you the first to be promoted after besting another Colonel on the battlefield?

There's still plenty of room for more in the Colonel's club.

[Updated on: Mon, 29 August 2011 01:55]

      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Mon, 29 August 2011 02:49
Wonder which Colonel he beat?

Also wondering how there can be so may Lt. Colenels with a gazillion games under their belt, and they haven't been promoted? Are they playing just a few select battles?

Here's a thought about a possible requirement for making general: I'll bet you'll need to win a series of linked battles sequentially. For instance, win all battles on the western Front as the Allies in chronological order, no defeats or you have to start all over again.

Like I said, just a thought.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Mon, 29 August 2011 03:22
jamesherrell wrote on Sun, 28 August 2011 20:49

Wonder which Colonel he beat?

Also wondering how there can be so may Lt. Colenels with a gazillion games under their belt, and they haven't been promoted? Are they playing just a few select battles?

Here's a thought about a possible requirement for making general: I'll bet you'll need to win a series of linked battles sequentially. For instance, win all battles on the western Front as the Allies in chronological order, no defeats or you have to start all over again.

Like I said, just a thought.


Wow, I'm glad you're not in charge of the promotion system. That would be tough.

Geoff
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Mon, 29 August 2011 15:35
As everybody could have seen on Quit's career page, it was me who had the honor to help him make Colonel. And it's really funny that "Gates of Moscow" was the the one map he played least, because we made the acquaintance of a person for whom quite the opposite is true ... Laughing Laughing Laughing
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Mon, 29 August 2011 18:07
jamesherrell wrote on Mon, 29 August 2011 02:49

Wonder which Colonel he beat?

Also wondering how there can be so may Lt. Colenels with a gazillion games under their belt, and they haven't been promoted? Are they playing just a few select battles?

Here's a thought about a possible requirement for making general: I'll bet you'll need to win a series of linked battles sequentially. For instance, win all battles on the western Front as the Allies in chronological order, no defeats or you have to start all over again.

Like I said, just a thought.

As Turboheizer said, you could have checked my career page to see it was him. He won the rematch.

It's enough for the lieutenant colonels to not have one one side of one scenario to avoid promotion. Alot of players have one battle they really dislike ... if they then don't know what exactly is required for promotion, it is very possible to have alot of battles without being promoted.

Nygaard is a good example. I think no-one has as many games under his belt as he does, but he has a few battles he really dislikes (like gallabat and metemna). If there is one side of that one he never won since being lt colonel, that's enough.

I suggest making another thread for general requirements speculation, to not pollute this one. Maybe the developpers can use some of the ideas we launch, if they have not developped it already. Could being field commander in overlord scenario's be an idea? It would mean a quick development of overlord game system ... but it would be cool Very Happy
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Tue, 30 August 2011 06:25
Quit2 wrote on Mon, 29 August 2011 20:07

It would mean a quick development of overlord game system ...



I don't think there is anything quick about developing (or programing) the Overlord system for this Online version of the game. If it was easy, they would have created it already! Very Happy
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Tue, 30 August 2011 20:45
rasmussen81 wrote on Tue, 30 August 2011 06:25

Quit2 wrote on Mon, 29 August 2011 20:07

It would mean a quick development of overlord game system ...



I don't think there is anything quick about developing (or programing) the Overlord system for this Online version of the game. If it was easy, they would have created it already! Very Happy

That's what I meant: they would have to do something that is difficult in very little time.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Wed, 31 August 2011 04:43
Congratulations Quit2. It took me 599 games, so you beat me there by quite a margin.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Wed, 31 August 2011 18:28
Henry Pelham wrote on Wed, 31 August 2011 04:43

Congratulations Quit2. It took me 599 games, so you beat me there by quite a margin.

But not in time. I think we both joined the game on 14/06/2011, and you got to colonel 2 days before me.
So it all depends on the criteria you use.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Fri, 02 September 2011 23:30
Congratulations to Colonel #21 Colonel Wehrwolf.

Welcome good Sir to the Colonel's club. Your shout.

For everyone else there is still plenty of room in the Colonel's Club for any and all who meet the exacting standards.

      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sat, 03 September 2011 00:18
Phread wrote on Fri, 02 September 2011 16:30

Congratulations to Colonel #21 Colonel Wehrwolf.

Welcome good Sir to the Colonel's club. Your shout.

For everyone else there is still plenty of room in the Colonel's Club for any and all who meet the exacting standards.




Thanks. Though while there are exacting standards, noone's sure what the exact standards are. Smile

For what its worth, after acheiving the other guidelines above (won every scenario from both sides as Lt. General, 250 games as Lt. General, and I had at least 16 wins from each side in each front as Lt. General), I was promoted in a win against a Cadet, my 54th or 55th game vs. a Cadet as a Lt. General (not sure overall how many). It was in the Wesern Front, which I already was well past the 12-15 wins, and on Operation Cobra.

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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sat, 03 September 2011 02:14
Colonel Wehrwolf - you refer to battles as Lt. General in your post above. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
Unless you managed to skip a few ranks (Colonel, Brigadier, Major General) I think you meant to discuss your experience as Lt. Colonel. Very Happy Laughing Very Happy Laughing Very Happy

      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sat, 03 September 2011 03:43
1) I'm a time traveler and was posting about my own future.
or
2) I was tired and really meant Lt. Colonel.
and/or
3) I majored in Japanese, not English. Smile Though I'm aware this sentence is open to puns because I used the word 'majored'.

Take your pick. Razz

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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sat, 03 September 2011 16:43
Hi to everybody, this morning i finally managed to get promoted to colonello or, to be more correct, COLONNELLO, which is the right italian spelling. I hope someone from days of wonder will read this post and revise the mistake.

Going back to the real motive of this mine (excuse my limping english), I was so absorbed by my quest for the colonel badge that only after a few more hard fought battles i realized i had already achieved it. This shows how beatiful but sometimes alienating is this game.

Some statistics now (and even this tells a lot about M44 fever) :

248 battles, but i didn't count a few expert battles.
Victories:
Eastern 18 allies + 17 axis
Mediterranean 25 + 23 (including french missions)
Western 27 + 23
Pacific 23 + 16

Most battles with cadets and quite a few got their first promotion against me

So I think that the right combination must be number of battles (250 is quite an achievement in itself)
and maybe promotion of cadets.

If this proportion is mantained for the next promotions, I'll be spending the next decade looking to become Maresciallo d'Italia.

Now I'm going expert for a while. Lots of interesting new missions. My eternal gratitude to anyone who posted them.

snd most of all, GG
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sat, 03 September 2011 17:23
Congratulations Colonnello!
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sat, 03 September 2011 18:02
Congrats and welcome to the club.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sun, 04 September 2011 04:54
Congratulations to Colonello #22 Colonello Vekkiller.
Welcome good Sir to the Colonello's club. Your shout.

A steady influx of new recruits to the Colonel's Clb.
Never fear there is still plenty of room left in the club.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sun, 04 September 2011 09:58
Congrats to Wehrwolf and Vekkiller on becoming colonel.

I think that 250 games is a criterium, and the reason why some hit the rank before 250 regular multiplayer games is that expert games also count towards the 250 (13 could be about right for me).
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sun, 04 September 2011 15:45
Quit2 wrote on Sun, 04 September 2011 11:58

I think that 250 games is a criterium, and the reason why some hit the rank before 250 regular multiplayer games is that expert games also count towards the 250 (13 could be about right for me).


If this is the case, it is a complete change from when the game first came out. According to DoW, the only battles that count toward achievements and promotion, are Standard battles against other people. Expert and Solo games don't count.

I haven't heard of any change in this policy, so I doubt the Expert games count.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Mon, 12 September 2011 04:13
Hi all,

Make room for me as I'm coming in...oh well around Summer 2012 LOL.

Only just got to Lieutenant Colonel, all these requirements to get to Colonel Shocked

By then you'll probably all be generals Very Happy
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Fri, 16 September 2011 18:01
Whats happened to all the budding Colonels out there?

It's been almost 2 weeks since the last Colonel joined our club - vekkiller.

Is that it?

Does nobody else have the desire to make it?

Or is it just that you have something better to do with your time Very Happy
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sat, 17 September 2011 01:29
Ha! I accept your challenge, even though it's only been a week since my promotion to Lt. Col.

I'm saving up for all the drinks that will be on me at the Colonel's lounge: there are quite a lot of drinkers, from what I can tell!
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sat, 17 September 2011 02:03
Glug, glug, glug hic! Laughing Shocked Laughing Shocked Laughing
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sun, 18 September 2011 20:33
(Given the multiple messages going on out there, here's the info I just posted to the other global promotion thread - oh yeah, and where's this officer club you speak of?)

More news on the Colonel front: long ago I had the 250 games as a Lt. Col. Long ago I had the wins from both sides in every theater. What I didn't have was enough games against cadets - you might see a recent thread where I whined (a bit) about cadets not willing to accept my invitations. Well, I twisted enough arms finally.

Going back thru my career, I counted up the number of cadets I had played as a Lt. Col. Be careful here, because when you review your records on DOW, the opponents' current rank is listed. So in true tedious fashion, I went back thru all the likely opponents you are listed as cadet or who are listed up thru Lieutenant, then checked their history to see if they were cadets during our battle.

Listen, if you're reading this thread, then you're a likely candidate to actually perform such a dreary task. Rolling Eyes

Anyway, I counted 36 individual matches against cadets, 24 of whom were unique opponents. Knowing DOW likes perfect numbers, I'm willing to bet I missed one unique opponent, so I would guess the requirement is you have to play 25 unique cadets. I do not think it has anything to do with the cadets beating you, although over the course of that many unique opponents you are likely to lose a few and a few of your opponents will be in a position to receive their Second Lt. promotion, which did happen against me.
      
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Re:Colonel Promotion requirements Sun, 18 September 2011 22:08
Welcome and congratualations toddcalu
      
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